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Printabletoots said: L4OATheOriginal said: naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD  I agree with you on that and guess what I saw that   man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Prince is a once in a lifetime genius musician.
He has positioned himself to be as prolific with releases as he wants to be. That means we heard and digested Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth in the same time frame most artists put out one album. To me it has never been about the amount of music Prince puts out - it is about the quality. The Dance (3121 vers.) is a classic Prince song to me. The Word, Somewhere Here on Earth, The One U Wanna See, - etc... U could make one GREAT album out of the best of his three. | |
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Oh good lord.
ANOTHER one of these threads? Look if you want to call yourself a "fam", fine. You want to think that every little thing that P does is genius, fine. But DON'T start another one of these ridiculous threads where you put down fans that don't think the way that YOU DO. Prince has had a LONG career. I think he can have fans that appreciate all of his body of work, or parts of it and STILL BE FANS. If i think that Planet Earth was garbage, then that's my right as an individual human being with an opinion. Doesn't mean i "turn in my Prince fan card". Please stop with that bullshit. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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DesireeNevermind said: Tame said: I admit that I do not have the ability to produce fantastic music...That is why loving Prince is easier, than trying to pick up a guitar at 42...I'm lazy that way.
 Tame you crack me up sometimes! 
I appreciate Prince of yesterday, today and tomorrow and time transcends so I still see him as he was, is and will be. Its all good and the soul lives 4 eva! Im gonna get as much P music as I can while I can!  We as fans...can adore the entire body of Prince's work...accepting what our opinions are of a blemish here or there... I believe that imperfections in the artist mind...is what propels them forward. I believe that Prince offers the most negative criticism toward his projects than anyone else. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: Oh good lord.
ANOTHER one of these threads? Look if you want to call yourself a "fam", fine. You want to think that every little thing that P does is genius, fine. But DON'T start another one of these ridiculous threads where you put down fans that don't think the way that YOU DO. Prince has had a LONG career. I think he can have fans that appreciate all of his body of work, or parts of it and STILL BE FANS. If i think that Planet Earth was garbage, then that's my right as an individual human being with an opinion. Doesn't mean i "turn in my Prince fan card". Please stop with that bullshit. U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Oh good lord.
ANOTHER one of these threads? Look if you want to call yourself a "fam", fine. You want to think that every little thing that P does is genius, fine. But DON'T start another one of these ridiculous threads where you put down fans that don't think the way that YOU DO. Prince has had a LONG career. I think he can have fans that appreciate all of his body of work, or parts of it and STILL BE FANS. If i think that Planet Earth was garbage, then that's my right as an individual human being with an opinion. Doesn't mean i "turn in my Prince fan card". Please stop with that bullshit. U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] you know, i'm not going to play the "X vs. Y" game here, and i'm not going to say so and so's last three albums are "as good as" or "better" than prince's last three albums, but your response made me think of beck's last three albums. i've been a fan of beck since his first album, and while i could easily pick apart his last three albums, they've all had a fair share of catchy, interesting and memorable material. i'm not going to say beck's recent output is better or more rewarding than prince's has been, but i think he's been releasing consistent work, even if some fans don't think "modern guilt" is the next "odelay". so i guess that would be my first response to that challenge - beck's output in the 00s has certainly been "comparable" simply in regards to the variety of music he's released over the past three albums. for whatever that's worth. | |
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Anxiety said: tricky99 said: U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] you know, i'm not going to play the "X vs. Y" game here, and i'm not going to say so and so's last three albums are "as good as" or "better" than prince's last three albums, but your response made me think of beck's last three albums. i've been a fan of beck since his first album, and while i could easily pick apart his last three albums, they've all had a fair share of catchy, interesting and memorable material. i'm not going to say beck's recent output is better or more rewarding than prince's has been, but i think he's been releasing consistent work, even if some fans don't think "modern guilt" is the next "odelay". so i guess that would be my first response to that challenge - beck's output in the 00s has certainly been "comparable" simply in regards to the variety of music he's released over the past three albums. for whatever that's worth. I've started a thread for this very question. I haven't heard the last 3 beck albums (what were the 3 titles?). Do they fall in the same time frame as Prince's trio or at least the same legnth of time. It is interesting that u picked Beck who is a pretty widely respected musician by critics. He operates pretty much at the top of the heap in terms of respected popular artists. So if he is competing with Prince then they both are in good company. | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Oh good lord.
ANOTHER one of these threads? Look if you want to call yourself a "fam", fine. You want to think that every little thing that P does is genius, fine. But DON'T start another one of these ridiculous threads where you put down fans that don't think the way that YOU DO. Prince has had a LONG career. I think he can have fans that appreciate all of his body of work, or parts of it and STILL BE FANS. If i think that Planet Earth was garbage, then that's my right as an individual human being with an opinion. Doesn't mean i "turn in my Prince fan card". Please stop with that bullshit. U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] Damn Tricky you know you preaching the truth right?! I've also never understood how anyone can call themselves a fan but the last CD they liked was (get ready for the "usual suspect" CD's) Lovesexy or The Gold Experience and still call themselves a fan. I will never understand that. That was 13 and 20 years ago since those albums came out. Many of you can deceive yourselves until you become purple but I can't lie to myself saying that I'm a fan when I haven't dug that persons work in that long a period of time. I just can't do it. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: tricky99 said: U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] Damn Tricky you know you preaching the truth right?! I've also never understood how anyone can call themselves a fan but the last CD they liked was (get ready for the "usual suspect" CD's) Lovesexy or The Gold Experience and still call themselves a fan. I will never understand that. That was 13 and 20 years ago since those albums came out. Many of you can deceive yourselves until you become purple but I can't lie to myself saying that I'm a fan when I haven't dug that persons work in that long a period of time. I just can't do it. I just want people to face the "truth" lol. Isn't that what an ex-fan is? Someone who used to like someone? There is no shame in being an ex-fan. I think the shame is calling yourself a fan and then proceeding to shit on everything that the artist does (not did but does as in NOW). | |
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tricky99 said: purplecam said: Damn Tricky you know you preaching the truth right?! I've also never understood how anyone can call themselves a fan but the last CD they liked was (get ready for the "usual suspect" CD's) Lovesexy or The Gold Experience and still call themselves a fan. I will never understand that. That was 13 and 20 years ago since those albums came out. Many of you can deceive yourselves until you become purple but I can't lie to myself saying that I'm a fan when I haven't dug that persons work in that long a period of time. I just can't do it. I just want people to face the "truth" lol. Isn't that what an ex-fan is? Someone who used to like someone? There is no shame in being an ex-fan. I think the shame is calling yourself a fan and then proceeding to shit on everything that the artist does (not did but does as in NOW). And to add on what you are saying, a lot of those people who shit on everything he does, they tend to shit on people who like the stuff they can't stand. They'll wonder how you can like or defend an album like Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic or Musicology and think you're crazy in the process, even if you come up with a reasonable explanation. God help you if Planet Earth or NPS is your favorite CD. The vultures come in packs.  I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Oh good lord.
ANOTHER one of these threads? Look if you want to call yourself a "fam", fine. You want to think that every little thing that P does is genius, fine. But DON'T start another one of these ridiculous threads where you put down fans that don't think the way that YOU DO. Prince has had a LONG career. I think he can have fans that appreciate all of his body of work, or parts of it and STILL BE FANS. If i think that Planet Earth was garbage, then that's my right as an individual human being with an opinion. Doesn't mean i "turn in my Prince fan card". Please stop with that bullshit. U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. It was cute back in the day, when Prince was actually RELEVANT to obsess about the man. And even THEN, i never tried to DRESS LIKE HIM. I equate that to the difference in liking Star Trek and going to conventions DRESSED AS A KLINGON. You can take a thing too far. So if some of you want to delude yourselves into thinking that NPS isn't total shite or that Rave is a diamond in the rough or that PE will be understood years from now, that's fine. I'll do what the rest of the sane world does when we hear shit like that. LAUGH. And for the record (since i don't think i've done this in all the years that i've been here) here's the BSP scorecard on Prince's career. For You - good Prince - great Dirty Mind - genius Controversy - genius 1999 - genius Purple Rain - genius ATWIAD - genius Parade - genius SOTT - genius Black Album - genius Lovesexy - genius Batman - great Graffiti Bridge - great (if you exclude tracks by everyone else) D&P - great Symbol - great TGE - shite Come - good C&D - good Emancipation - good Vault - good Rave - shite TRC - genius NEWS - shite Musicology - shite 3121 - shite PE - shite Exodus - genius NPS - shite Gold Nigga - shite did that off the top of my head so if the order's off or i forgot something, take a hint from your lord and purple saviour and SUE ME. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: tricky99 said: U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. It was cute back in the day, when Prince was actually RELEVANT to obsess about the man. And even THEN, i never tried to DRESS LIKE HIM. I equate that to the difference in liking Star Trek and going to conventions DRESSED AS A KLINGON. You can take a thing too far. So if some of you want to delude yourselves into thinking that NPS isn't total shite or that Rave is a diamond in the rough or that PE will be understood years from now, that's fine. I'll do what the rest of the sane world does when we hear shit like that. LAUGH. And for the record (since i don't think i've done this in all the years that i've been here) here's the BSP scorecard on Prince's career. For You - good Prince - great Dirty Mind - genius Controversy - genius 1999 - genius Purple Rain - genius ATWIAD - genius Parade - genius SOTT - genius Black Album - genius Lovesexy - genius Batman - great Graffiti Bridge - great (if you exclude tracks by everyone else) D&P - great Symbol - great TGE - shite Come - good C&D - good Emancipation - good Vault - good Rave - shite TRC - genius NEWS - shite Musicology - shite 3121 - shite PE - shite Exodus - genius NPS - shite Gold Nigga - shite did that off the top of my head so if the order's off or i forgot something, take a hint from your lord and purple saviour and SUE ME. Like I said ex-fan. So now u proceed to shit on all kinds of other fans. Why u so mad kid? Why is he a purple midget? U are upset with me yet u want to denagrate Prince that's odd and very immature. So now you are attacking fans that reference Prince in their log-on names? Where did u get your name lol? Why should anyone care if Prince is "relavent". What's that even mean? U have proven yourself to be an absolute fool with your own words lol. U not only dislike Prince but seem to have a lot of hate for Prince fans as well. With all this hate why are u here? Are u a nut? | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. It was cute back in the day, when Prince was actually RELEVANT to obsess about the man. And even THEN, i never tried to DRESS LIKE HIM. I equate that to the difference in liking Star Trek and going to conventions DRESSED AS A KLINGON. You can take a thing too far. So if some of you want to delude yourselves into thinking that NPS isn't total shite or that Rave is a diamond in the rough or that PE will be understood years from now, that's fine. I'll do what the rest of the sane world does when we hear shit like that. LAUGH. And for the record (since i don't think i've done this in all the years that i've been here) here's the BSP scorecard on Prince's career. For You - good Prince - great Dirty Mind - genius Controversy - genius 1999 - genius Purple Rain - genius ATWIAD - genius Parade - genius SOTT - genius Black Album - genius Lovesexy - genius Batman - great Graffiti Bridge - great (if you exclude tracks by everyone else) D&P - great Symbol - great TGE - shite Come - good C&D - good Emancipation - good Vault - good Rave - shite TRC - genius NEWS - shite Musicology - shite 3121 - shite PE - shite Exodus - genius NPS - shite Gold Nigga - shite did that off the top of my head so if the order's off or i forgot something, take a hint from your lord and purple saviour and SUE ME. Like I said ex-fan. So now u proceed to shit on all kinds of other fans. Why u so mad kid? Why is he a purple midget? U are upset with me yet u want to denagrate Prince that's odd and very immature. So now you are attacking fans that reference Prince in their log-on names? Where did u get your name lol? Why should anyone care if Prince is "relavent". What's that even mean? U have proven yourself to be an absolute fool with your own words lol. U not only dislike Prince but seem to have a lot of hate for Prince fans as well. With all this hate why are u here? Are u a nut?
Yes, i'm a nut. And i don't think i'm an "ex-fan" i'm a fan waiting for QUALITY. There's a difference. I thought he was done for after RAVE. TRC was a total surprise. So i got sucked back in thinking "he actually can make a good album still" and then it's been a shite stream ever since. But if i were truly an "ex-fan", i wouldn't even give him a shot anymore. I'd just tune out. But when a new album comes out, i give it a listen hoping that he'll surprise me again. It's cute. Now when someone doesn't think like you, it's you're a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". But then when someone has a response it's "why are YOU shitting on other fans"? and "why are you so mad?" I'm not nearly as angry as some of ya'll think i am. I mostly sit at my desk and marvel at the complete lack of reality on the Org sometimes. And when i think someone's gone a little off the deep end, i might chime in because it's fun. "Relevant" means "current", "talked about", "making a significant contribution to the industry". None of which Prince has been in a LONG time (outside of suing fans and fansites). http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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tricky99 said: Anxiety said: you know, i'm not going to play the "X vs. Y" game here, and i'm not going to say so and so's last three albums are "as good as" or "better" than prince's last three albums, but your response made me think of beck's last three albums. i've been a fan of beck since his first album, and while i could easily pick apart his last three albums, they've all had a fair share of catchy, interesting and memorable material. i'm not going to say beck's recent output is better or more rewarding than prince's has been, but i think he's been releasing consistent work, even if some fans don't think "modern guilt" is the next "odelay". so i guess that would be my first response to that challenge - beck's output in the 00s has certainly been "comparable" simply in regards to the variety of music he's released over the past three albums. for whatever that's worth. I've started a thread for this very question. I haven't heard the last 3 beck albums (what were the 3 titles?). Do they fall in the same time frame as Prince's trio or at least the same legnth of time. It is interesting that u picked Beck who is a pretty widely respected musician by critics. He operates pretty much at the top of the heap in terms of respected popular artists. So if he is competing with Prince then they both are in good company. i don't think beck is competing with prince in the least. they both just happen to be fairly prolific artists who have successfully created a "brand" based on their musical style and personal asthetics. the last three beck albums are "guero", "the information" and "modern guilt". interestingly, i hear that beck has been slagging off his own "midnite vultures" album in interviews lately, and that he has said he won't play anything from that album live anymore. that album is the one that is popularly considered to be an homage to prince... | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said: Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. It was cute back in the day, when Prince was actually RELEVANT to obsess about the man. And even THEN, i never tried to DRESS LIKE HIM. I equate that to the difference in liking Star Trek and going to conventions DRESSED AS A KLINGON. You can take a thing too far. So if some of you want to delude yourselves into thinking that NPS isn't total shite or that Rave is a diamond in the rough or that PE will be understood years from now, that's fine. I'll do what the rest of the sane world does when we hear shit like that. LAUGH. And for the record (since i don't think i've done this in all the years that i've been here) here's the BSP scorecard on Prince's career. For You - good Prince - great Dirty Mind - genius Controversy - genius 1999 - genius Purple Rain - genius ATWIAD - genius Parade - genius SOTT - genius Black Album - genius Lovesexy - genius Batman - great Graffiti Bridge - great (if you exclude tracks by everyone else) D&P - great Symbol - great TGE - shite Come - good C&D - good Emancipation - good Vault - good Rave - shite TRC - genius NEWS - shite Musicology - shite 3121 - shite PE - shite Exodus - genius NPS - shite Gold Nigga - shite did that off the top of my head so if the order's off or i forgot something, take a hint from your lord and purple saviour and SUE ME. Like I said ex-fan. So now u proceed to shit on all kinds of other fans. Why u so mad kid? Why is he a purple midget? U are upset with me yet u want to denagrate Prince that's odd and very immature. So now you are attacking fans that reference Prince in their log-on names? Where did u get your name lol? Why should anyone care if Prince is "relavent". What's that even mean? U have proven yourself to be an absolute fool with your own words lol. U not only dislike Prince but seem to have a lot of hate for Prince fans as well. With all this hate why are u here? Are u a nut? Oh, and contrary to popular belief "ButterscotchPimp" ISN'T a Prince reference. It's an inside joke with my best friend from years ago that stuck. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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ButterscotchPimp said: tricky99 said: Like I said ex-fan. So now u proceed to shit on all kinds of other fans. Why u so mad kid? Why is he a purple midget? U are upset with me yet u want to denagrate Prince that's odd and very immature. So now you are attacking fans that reference Prince in their log-on names? Where did u get your name lol? Why should anyone care if Prince is "relavent". What's that even mean? U have proven yourself to be an absolute fool with your own words lol. U not only dislike Prince but seem to have a lot of hate for Prince fans as well. With all this hate why are u here? Are u a nut?
Yes, i'm a nut. And i don't think i'm an "ex-fan" i'm a fan waiting for QUALITY. There's a difference. I thought he was done for after RAVE. TRC was a total surprise. So i got sucked back in thinking "he actually can make a good album still" and then it's been a shite stream ever since. But if i were truly an "ex-fan", i wouldn't even give him a shot anymore. I'd just tune out. But when a new album comes out, i give it a listen hoping that he'll surprise me again. It's cute. Now when someone doesn't think like you, it's you're a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". But then when someone has a response it's "why are YOU shitting on other fans"? and "why are you so mad?" I'm not nearly as angry as some of ya'll think i am. I mostly sit at my desk and marvel at the complete lack of reality on the Org sometimes. And when i think someone's gone a little off the deep end, i might chime in because it's fun. "Relevant" means "current", "talked about", "making a significant contribution to the industry". None of which Prince has been in a LONG time (outside of suing fans and fansites). I could care less if Prince is talked about but wasn't he just on the cover of Jet and Ebony magazines. Isn't that a part of being talked about? Wasn't he the headliner at the coachella festival? Is that a "relevent" event? Wasn't that Prince on the Tonight show? All these parties I keep hearing about full of celebs and fellow musicians aren't they happening at Prince's house? I wish I was as irrelvent as Prince lol. If u were a "real" fan why would u be arguing about how irrelevent he is? Why would that even effect u? The definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So why u keep listening to Prince's "shit" over and over again seems a lil obsessed to me. U need to tune Prince out instead of sphewing your venom for him and his fans like so much vomit. Why don't u surpise me and disapear up your own ass. | |
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Anxiety said: tricky99 said: I've started a thread for this very question. I haven't heard the last 3 beck albums (what were the 3 titles?). Do they fall in the same time frame as Prince's trio or at least the same legnth of time. It is interesting that u picked Beck who is a pretty widely respected musician by critics. He operates pretty much at the top of the heap in terms of respected popular artists. So if he is competing with Prince then they both are in good company. i don't think beck is competing with prince in the least. they both just happen to be fairly prolific artists who have successfully created a "brand" based on their musical style and personal asthetics. the last three beck albums are "guero", "the information" and "modern guilt". interestingly, i hear that beck has been slagging off his own "midnite vultures" album in interviews lately, and that he has said he won't play anything from that album live anymore. that album is the one that is popularly considered to be an homage to prince... I don't mean competing as in Beck is trying to better Prince or vis-versa. I mean they are competing on a high level of creativity. The air up there is very thin. The majority of people making music today don't fit Beck or Prince's cateogory. | |
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purplecam said: tricky99 said: U fools always run to that defense that "someone likes every thing he does". No some of us have enough tact and intelligence to know that just because we don't like something doesn't mean its shit, crap or garbage. If u don't like the last upteen albums u are not a fan. U may be a fan of some past time period but i speak of fan in the present tense. I threw out a challenge to all those folks u think Prince's last 3 albums were "shit" to put up another artist who over the same time period as produced the variety, quantity, and quality of those albums. Not one person has taken the challenge. U know why? Because its easy to critisize in a vaccuum, but Prince doesn't exist and produce music in an empty universe. U can fit on the head of a pin the actual musicians that are comparable to Prince in just that 3 album timeframe. To many of us are certainly playing the role of swine before the pearls. I am a fan right today 8/14/2008 not some long ago time in the last century. Its too bad some of u are so bitter because u don't like the ride anymore. [Edited 8/14/08 4:59am] Damn Tricky you know you preaching the truth right?! I've also never understood how anyone can call themselves a fan but the last CD they liked was (get ready for the "usual suspect" CD's) Lovesexy or The Gold Experience and still call themselves a fan. I will never understand that. That was 13 and 20 years ago since those albums came out. Many of you can deceive yourselves until you become purple but I can't lie to myself saying that I'm a fan when I haven't dug that persons work in that long a period of time. I just can't do it. it would b the equivalant of someone saying they like prince but only his older material ..alright cool that's u and u can "live" in that time frame but don't come down on me and others when we like the WHOLE xperience of past and NEW man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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tricky99 said: ButterscotchPimp said:
Yes, i'm a nut. And i don't think i'm an "ex-fan" i'm a fan waiting for QUALITY. There's a difference. I thought he was done for after RAVE. TRC was a total surprise. So i got sucked back in thinking "he actually can make a good album still" and then it's been a shite stream ever since. But if i were truly an "ex-fan", i wouldn't even give him a shot anymore. I'd just tune out. But when a new album comes out, i give it a listen hoping that he'll surprise me again. It's cute. Now when someone doesn't think like you, it's you're a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". But then when someone has a response it's "why are YOU shitting on other fans"? and "why are you so mad?" I'm not nearly as angry as some of ya'll think i am. I mostly sit at my desk and marvel at the complete lack of reality on the Org sometimes. And when i think someone's gone a little off the deep end, i might chime in because it's fun. "Relevant" means "current", "talked about", "making a significant contribution to the industry". None of which Prince has been in a LONG time (outside of suing fans and fansites). I could care less if Prince is talked about but wasn't he just on the cover of Jet and Ebony magazines. Isn't that a part of being talked about? Wasn't he the headliner at the coachella festival? Is that a "relevent" event? Wasn't that Prince on the Tonight show? All these parties I keep hearing about full of celebs and fellow musicians aren't they happening at Prince's house? I wish I was as irrelvent as Prince lol. If u were a "real" fan why would u be arguing about how irrelevent he is? Why would that even effect u? The definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So why u keep listening to Prince's "shit" over and over again seems a lil obsessed to me. U need to tune Prince out instead of sphewing your venom for him and his fans like so much vomit. Why don't u surpise me and disapear up your own ass.
Now who's mad?
Again, if you want to delude yourself into thinking that Prince is as cool/relevant as he ever was, that's on you. If you sleep better at night thinking that you're a "real fan" and i'm not, good on ya. But sorry, son. I've been here for awhile, and i'm not going anywhere. And it's funny how some of ya'll perceive things. Because YOU lead off with the insults and venom, not me. If you don't want me in here "spewing venom" then don't provoke the snake! Don't get all on your f-ing high horse and start calling people that don't agree with you "fools", "tact-less", "non-intelligent" and "ex-fans". No one elected you President of Prince Fan Etiquette. Or to get street about it, don't start no shit won't be none. 'Kay? http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: Damn Tricky you know you preaching the truth right?! I've also never understood how anyone can call themselves a fan but the last CD they liked was (get ready for the "usual suspect" CD's) Lovesexy or The Gold Experience and still call themselves a fan. I will never understand that. That was 13 and 20 years ago since those albums came out. Many of you can deceive yourselves until you become purple but I can't lie to myself saying that I'm a fan when I haven't dug that persons work in that long a period of time. I just can't do it. it would b the equivalant of someone saying they like prince but only his older material ..alright cool that's u and u can "live" in that time frame but don't come down on me and others when we like the WHOLE xperience of past and NEW  And if you look a few post before this one, another orger did just that by dogging all of us on here. A perfect example of one deceiving themselves.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. ahh xcuse me but i had this name WAY B4 the love 4 one another special came out  and u want 2 talk about growing up? there is a way 2 say "oh well i didn't like that album" and not ridicule those in a demeaning manor unlike the rest of ur post indicated.
and perhaps u need 2 better educate urself on the term "kool aid" cause we're not saying we like everything he does. purple kool aid drinkers r those type of people  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: Arguing with a kool-aid-kid isn't going to get me anywhere, but i seem to keep doing it. Ah, well. I guess i'm a "fool" without "tact" or "intelligence". Anyhoo. Just becuase some of ya'll think that the musical universe revolves around the purple midget, so much so that some of ya'll can't get through the day without listening to him, or have cute little symbols TATTOOED on your body, or have your online e-mail address or Myspace name as a cute little Prince nickname or song title, don't be mad at those of us who have GROWN UP. ahh xcuse me but i had this name WAY B4 the love 4 one another special came out and u want 2 talk about growing up? there is a way 2 say "oh well i didn't like that album" and not ridicule those in a demeaning manor unlike the rest of ur post indicated.
and perhaps u need 2 better educate urself on the term "kool aid" cause we're not saying we like everything he does. purple kool aid drinkers r those type of people BP loves being disrespectful to other fans who don't share his view, the very thing he accuses people of doing on here. Anyone here who uses that term kool-aid drinker is as much a kool-aid drinker themselves. They are here talking about the same dude too. Even if they aren't talking about P, it's guilt by association. Might as well take a sip. [Edited 8/14/08 8:22am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: And i don't think i'm an "ex-fan" i'm a fan waiting for QUALITY.
quality = xpecations of ur own desires tho do u think that u could surrender ur xpectations and come 2 a new song or project with an open mind? or does everything he does have 2 live up 2 a level of past projects 4 u? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: tricky99 said: I could care less if Prince is talked about but wasn't he just on the cover of Jet and Ebony magazines. Isn't that a part of being talked about? Wasn't he the headliner at the coachella festival? Is that a "relevent" event? Wasn't that Prince on the Tonight show? All these parties I keep hearing about full of celebs and fellow musicians aren't they happening at Prince's house? I wish I was as irrelvent as Prince lol. If u were a "real" fan why would u be arguing about how irrelevent he is? Why would that even effect u? The definition of insane is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So why u keep listening to Prince's "shit" over and over again seems a lil obsessed to me. U need to tune Prince out instead of sphewing your venom for him and his fans like so much vomit. Why don't u surpise me and disapear up your own ass.
Now who's mad?
Again, if you want to delude yourself into thinking that Prince is as cool/relevant as he ever was, that's on you. If you sleep better at night thinking that you're a "real fan" and i'm not, good on ya. But sorry, son. I've been here for awhile, and i'm not going anywhere. And it's funny how some of ya'll perceive things. Because YOU lead off with the insults and venom, not me. If you don't want me in here "spewing venom" then don't provoke the snake! Don't get all on your f-ing high horse and start calling people that don't agree with you "fools", "tact-less", "non-intelligent" and "ex-fans". No one elected you President of Prince Fan Etiquette. Or to get street about it, don't start no shit won't be none. 'Kay? Unlike u I don't spend time wondering whether Prince is "cool" or as "relevant" as he once was. What has that got to do with anything? He is cool and relevant to me. What else should matter lol? I sleep fine thank u. U are the worst kind of fan. The hating obsessed fan who no matter how disappointed they are just can't let go. Breathe deep and release. U will survive without Prince. U can spend all your time watching the Controversy concert and pretending its 1982. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: And i don't think i'm an "ex-fan" i'm a fan waiting for QUALITY.
quality = xpecations of ur own desires tho do u think that u could surrender ur xpectations and come 2 a new song or project with an open mind? or does everything he does have 2 live up 2 a level of past projects 4 u? I'll respond to both of you here. Firstly, i know ya'll don't like being called "kool-aid kids". But i can't help it. I mean when you can't even write without using "Prince-speak", i can't help myself. You want to take that as me being disrespectful, i can live with that. But if you don't think there's anything wrong with it, why be so sensitive about it? And i don't compare Prince to his former glory. I thought TRC was genius and i don't think that sounded like "something old". If i heard something "new" on a Prince album, i'd love that. I hear Prince spoofing his former self when i listen to PE and it's annoying and unlistenable. I didn't go "well, i thought Musicology and 3121 were crap so here we go again" BEFORE i listened to PE. That happened about 30 seconds into the first track. I don't want to hear over-produced crap that sounds like P trying to make music that's popular today. I just want to hear the man play music that sounds like he doesn't care if ANYONE gets it or not. That's what was so refreshing about what he USED to do. That's what i keep hoping he'll DO AGAIN. http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Why does relevancy matter with Prince or any other artist? Prince must be relevent or else why are any of us here to talk about him? And in terms of him being relevent in pop culture today, no he's not. That's because he doesn't have an album to release and promote and he's not in the news for anything at the moment and that's fine. Once he does something, then he'll be relevant in the public eye again but even if it doesn't hit TMZ or the 10:00 O'Clock News, does that make you or anyone else here less of a fan? I don't need Prince to be relevant on the pages of US Weekly to make me more of a fan. I'm already a fan and will continue to be one even if he never has another hit song or album or a cover on People Magazine ever again. Oh and he's still relevant to ME and that's all that matter. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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VERY true. Planet Earth was so good that it was almost haunting. | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: quality = xpecations of ur own desires tho do u think that u could surrender ur xpectations and come 2 a new song or project with an open mind? or does everything he does have 2 live up 2 a level of past projects 4 u? I'll respond to both of you here. Firstly, i know ya'll don't like being called "kool-aid kids". But i can't help it. I mean when you can't even write without using "Prince-speak", i can't help myself. You want to take that as me being disrespectful, i can live with that. But if you don't think there's anything wrong with it, why be so sensitive about it? And i don't compare Prince to his former glory. I thought TRC was genius and i don't think that sounded like "something old". If i heard something "new" on a Prince album, i'd love that. I hear Prince spoofing his former self when i listen to PE and it's annoying and unlistenable. I didn't go "well, i thought Musicology and 3121 were crap so here we go again" BEFORE i listened to PE. That happened about 30 seconds into the first track. I don't want to hear over-produced crap that sounds like P trying to make music that's popular today. I just want to hear the man play music that sounds like he doesn't care if ANYONE gets it or not. That's what was so refreshing about what he USED to do. That's what i keep hoping he'll DO AGAIN. "Spoofing on his former self" that's an interesting thing, can u talk more in-depth about that. U thought TRC was genuis but that NEWS was shit. How was he spoofing or making music that is popular today? So in your mind Prince can't sound like the past and can't sound like the present right. So whatever he releases must sound "innovative" or unlike anything that u have heard from him or anyone else? Is this correct? And u wonder why u are disapointed with him. U have put Prince and your expectations in a very tight box. Do u hold all other musicians to these same standards? | |
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ButterscotchPimp said: L4OATheOriginal said: quality = xpecations of ur own desires tho do u think that u could surrender ur xpectations and come 2 a new song or project with an open mind? or does everything he does have 2 live up 2 a level of past projects 4 u? I'll respond to both of you here. Firstly, i know ya'll don't like being called "kool-aid kids". But i can't help it. I mean when you can't even write without using "Prince-speak", i can't help myself. You want to take that as me being disrespectful, i can live with that. But if you don't think there's anything wrong with it, why be so sensitive about it? And i don't compare Prince to his former glory. I thought TRC was genius and i don't think that sounded like "something old". If i heard something "new" on a Prince album, i'd love that. I hear Prince spoofing his former self when i listen to PE and it's annoying and unlistenable. I didn't go "well, i thought Musicology and 3121 were crap so here we go again" BEFORE i listened to PE. That happened about 30 seconds into the first track. I don't want to hear over-produced crap that sounds like P trying to make music that's popular today. I just want to hear the man play music that sounds like he doesn't care if ANYONE gets it or not. That's what was so refreshing about what he USED to do. That's what i keep hoping he'll DO AGAIN. thank u 4 ur xplanation but i just want 2 clarify myself 2 u if i may. i have been typing this way since 1984 and when i started developing being a songwriter myself, it was just easier 2 get my thought train out faster by using shortcuts or as u say "prince" speak and dare i say it's become a habit that i can't shake even when i'm writting professional letters at my job, i have 2 edit myself and write "normal". However, this doesn't make me a kool aid drinker i don't belive, but perhaps in ur eyesight i am. i not sure if u do but i would b curious 2 know that if u use ur cell phone 4 texting, if u actually spell out all the words without using shortcuts? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: ButterscotchPimp said: I'll respond to both of you here. Firstly, i know ya'll don't like being called "kool-aid kids". But i can't help it. I mean when you can't even write without using "Prince-speak", i can't help myself. You want to take that as me being disrespectful, i can live with that. But if you don't think there's anything wrong with it, why be so sensitive about it? And i don't compare Prince to his former glory. I thought TRC was genius and i don't think that sounded like "something old". If i heard something "new" on a Prince album, i'd love that. I hear Prince spoofing his former self when i listen to PE and it's annoying and unlistenable. I didn't go "well, i thought Musicology and 3121 were crap so here we go again" BEFORE i listened to PE. That happened about 30 seconds into the first track. I don't want to hear over-produced crap that sounds like P trying to make music that's popular today. I just want to hear the man play music that sounds like he doesn't care if ANYONE gets it or not. That's what was so refreshing about what he USED to do. That's what i keep hoping he'll DO AGAIN. thank u 4 ur xplanation but i just want 2 clarify myself 2 u if i may. i have been typing this way since 1984 and when i started developing being a songwriter myself, it was just easier 2 get my thought train out faster by using shortcuts or as u say "prince" speak and dare i say it's become a habit that i can't shake even when i'm writting professional letters at my job, i have 2 edit myself and write "normal". However, this doesn't make me a kool aid drinker i don't belive, but perhaps in ur eyesight i am. i not sure if u do but i would b curious 2 know that if u use ur cell phone 4 texting, if u actually spell out all the words without using shortcuts? But even if you want to talk like that because you feel like it, who is he to talk to or about you like you are a retard by calling you a "Kool-Aid Fan?" Then he wants to wonder why people come at him like he crazy. He said earlier "don't start no shit won't be none". Well homeboy needs to follow his own advice, for real though. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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