tricky99 said: From 2004-2007 Prince has produced 3 albums Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth. I consider each album to be stellar work. I think many so-called fans underrate these albums. I think those fans that are expecting innovation and general weirdness from Prince miss the great song writing and craftsmanship that Prince illustrates on the albums.
I doubt any of this is quantifyable but many die-hard fans underrate his work too. There's no correlation between fan level and common sense, though the later colors the way one would identify themselves as a fan I suppose. | |
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tricky99 said: Anxiety said: well, okay. i still disagree with you, though. and i don't expect his music to be xerox copies of 1987 in order to be groundbreaking or even interesting. i've seen other artists make creative comebacks in the second halves of their lives/creative careers, and i have no doubt that prince has the potential of pulling a few more surprises out of his bag of tricks before he finally calls it a day. planet earth was a disappointment to me. you might think it was the greatest album of all time, and hey, god bless you. if that's the case, the album wasn't a total waste of time because it at least reached YOU. my whole point was, it's great that there are some people who are enthusiastic about his more recent material and it's great that there are some people who care more about his earlier stuff, or his symbol-era stuff, or whatEVER, because it just means there are more people running around who have an expertise on a particular era, and we have the potential to learn from and influence each other. that's not pie in the sky. in my years on this site and my years of being a fan and interacting with other fans, i've actually EXPERIENCED that kind of exchange. and it's great. but that's just my opinions based on my experiences and my perspectives. i think what you have to say is valid, even if i agree with precious little of it. i hope i didn't seem to claim otherwise. I remember being disapointed by both C&D and NPS on there release. I still recognize that they are not his best work but I still enjoy them. They each have unique place within his portfolio. meanwhile, i think C&D is one of his most interesting albums (i won't say BEST, but i think there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in that album and it always holds my attention) and while i think NPS has some deeply, DEEPLY flawed songs, i can't dismiss any album with songs like "come on" and "the one" on it. that's the thing about prince's catalog. nobody can make a subjective value call on anything he's released because whatever you may not like, there's gonna be someone else crawling out of the woodwork saying it's their favorite. his music is like a rorschach test - everyone gets something different out of it, good and/or bad. | |
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tricky99 said: From 2004-2007 Prince has produced 3 albums Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth. I consider each album to be stellar work. I think many so-called fans underrate these albums. I think those fans that are expecting innovation and general weirdness from Prince miss the great song writing and craftsmanship that Prince illustrates on the albums.
It as if fans can’t appreciate well-structured songs from Prince unless they are outlandish in some way. I really don’t think there is anyone else alive and making music who could make those three albums. They don’t have the range, abilities, and imagination to create them. Feel free to make a case for a contemporary artist who has shown this ability. Those so-called fans that put down these albums remind me of Hendrix fans who couldn’t get past the theatrics of Hendrix and see the great songwriter underneath. I find it so disturbing that people keep trying to stop the march of time. Prince changed because he had too. Just as we all must do. I love is old work but I don’t live there. I wish more of his fans could appreciate him as he is and not as they wish he would be. Prince is still working at a very high level. A level must performers/musicians will never reach. I think some of u will only appreciate his work later in the years to come. Xpectations are a bitch aww someone who understands i personally have always thought his recent albums are just examples of his growth in music he does the unexpected which i think real fans could appreciate. Ur right theres barely any,if any, that do that these days | |
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fanatic4ever said: So what u are saying is that u have to like every single thing that P has ever done to be a fan? That is ridiculous IMHO. I would draw a comparison to sports I am a Minnesota Timberwolves fan and they havent done crap in years. They have made allot of moves, and played allot of games that I thought were horrible in the past couple of years. But that doesnt make me any less of a fan. All I hope is they can try harder and do better. Same goes with P. And this is coming from a person that didnt hate all of his last albums just think he could do better.
but better how? what is he supposed 2 do that he hasn't already done b4? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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purplecam said: I learned something major when Musicology was about to come out. I learned that for me, if I continued to compare Prince of today to Prince of 1982 or 1988 or 1995, I was only setting myself up for disappointment and heartache. The only thing I needed to hope for was for an album that I would like and enjoy. Ever since I changed my way of thinking and let go of unrealistic expectation like wanting Purple Rain 2 or just something innovative, I've enjoyed the albums that have come out since 2004. I have an album that is in my top 10 from this time, 3121, and I even heard TRC with a different ear and I love it more now then I did when it came out and I liked it when it came out.
To me, music is not a biology project that I disect left and right, it's just something that either grabs me or it doesn't and Prince is the one artist who still grabs me from when I was a little kid. I don't like everything he's done but what I focus on what I love and thank God there's a lot for me to choose from. I'm off the soapbox now naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Anxiety said: tricky99 said: I remember being disapointed by both C&D and NPS on there release. I still recognize that they are not his best work but I still enjoy them. They each have unique place within his portfolio. meanwhile, i think C&D is one of his most interesting albums (i won't say BEST, but i think there's a lot of crazy stuff going on in that album and it always holds my attention) and while i think NPS has some deeply, DEEPLY flawed songs, i can't dismiss any album with songs like "come on" and "the one" on it. that's the thing about prince's catalog. nobody can make a subjective value call on anything he's released because whatever you may not like, there's gonna be someone else crawling out of the woodwork saying it's their favorite. his music is like a rorschach test - everyone gets something different out of it, good and/or bad. This is very true. I think it speaks to his genuis that so many people approach his work from so many angles. I never see Prince as lazy as others have stated. I can pick up any of his albums and discover some new nuance. Prince commits so fully to his music that find myself liking songs that I initially dismiss. It almost seems that each song represents and entire universe in Prince's mind. When he created them I get the impression that that song was the most important thing in the world to him. | |
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ChristopherTracy319 said: HamsterHuey said: So you are only a fan if you appreciate all his work? Now that's a bit... ermmmm extreme, innit? So when I tell you that the last three albums are just boring, re-hashed funk, disco and middle of the road rock I came to expect from Richard Marx in the 80's, then I am a 'so-called'fan? WOOHOO! You are so-called intellegunt! Nice one! I agree it's pretty ridiculous to be called a "true" fan, only if you don't criticize his music. In fact I feel the opposite. I feel that a "true" fan would in fact be criticize his work and analyze what he is producing compared to other albums. As far as his last three albums I do not think they were as the Tricky99 put it, "stellar work". I do think that there was "stellar work" on the albums, but as a whole the albums were not great. This leads me back to the thread I posted the other day. Prince is still doing good work but he is not living up to the potential that all of his fans know he is capable of. I actually think that his best period was late 80s early 90s, with albums like D&P, Gold, , Come, and up to Emancipation. That period is when Prince showed the most diversity and imagination that Tricky99 seems to be calling Prince's most recent period. Tricky I think you may be a little mistaken in your view. there is a difference however in being a fan and a fanatic. fanatic likes everything under the sun and i'm sure tricky is not saying that in his assertions. there is nothing wrong with criticizing his work cause i have done it and will continue 2 do it. the difference is saying that his work of late is all pure crap compared 2 dirty mind, controversy, 1999 etc. that's just comparing his past achievements instead of going in2 a new piece of material with NO xpectations. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: I learned something major when Musicology was about to come out. I learned that for me, if I continued to compare Prince of today to Prince of 1982 or 1988 or 1995, I was only setting myself up for disappointment and heartache. The only thing I needed to hope for was for an album that I would like and enjoy. Ever since I changed my way of thinking and let go of unrealistic expectation like wanting Purple Rain 2 or just something innovative, I've enjoyed the albums that have come out since 2004. I have an album that is in my top 10 from this time, 3121, and I even heard TRC with a different ear and I love it more now then I did when it came out and I liked it when it came out.
To me, music is not a biology project that I disect left and right, it's just something that either grabs me or it doesn't and Prince is the one artist who still grabs me from when I was a little kid. I don't like everything he's done but what I focus on what I love and thank God there's a lot for me to choose from. I'm off the soapbox now naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD Oddly, I did the same thing with ATWIAD. I kept hoping that it would be PR. Then PARADE. Then SOTT. Once I really got into SOTT, I stopped expecting another PR. I knew at that point that Prince was a moving target and would always offer up surprises. Which is what has been so dissapointing about the last 10 years. The only real surprises are how underwhelming the new material is. And like PurpleCam, I had to give up any expectations that the albums would be on par with the 80's material. Those who expect the least are least dissapointed so that's my clarion call now. | |
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Imago said: L4OATheOriginal said: naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD Oddly, I did the same thing with ATWIAD. I kept hoping that it would be PR. Then PARADE. Then SOTT. Once I really got into SOTT, I stopped expecting another PR. I knew at that point that Prince was a moving target and would always offer up surprises. Which is what has been so dissapointing about the last 10 years. The only real surprises are how underwhelming the new material is. And like PurpleCam, I had to give up any expectations that the albums would be on par with the 80's material. Those who expect the least are least dissapointed so that's my clarion call now. I have a hard time understanding how anyone could be dissapointed with TRC. Outside of the lyrical controversy that album is quite unusual and sounds very different from his other works. It makes something like Dirty Mind sound like child's play (which it is). Its much more sonically complex. Prince could have never done TRC in 1980. And I don't mean that u have to like TRC more than DM but I hope we can all hear the differnce in complexity and structure. | |
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Being a fan of TRC, when you put that back to Back against Musicology, can you not see what a pathetically weak album Musuckology is?
. [Edited 8/13/08 11:29am] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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tricky99 said: Imago said: Oddly, I did the same thing with ATWIAD. I kept hoping that it would be PR. Then PARADE. Then SOTT. Once I really got into SOTT, I stopped expecting another PR. I knew at that point that Prince was a moving target and would always offer up surprises. Which is what has been so dissapointing about the last 10 years. The only real surprises are how underwhelming the new material is. And like PurpleCam, I had to give up any expectations that the albums would be on par with the 80's material. Those who expect the least are least dissapointed so that's my clarion call now. I have a hard time understanding how anyone could be dissapointed with TRC. Outside of the lyrical controversy that album is quite unusual and sounds very different from his other works. It makes something like Dirty Mind sound like child's play (which it is). Its much more sonically complex. Prince could have never done TRC in 1980. And I don't mean that u have to like TRC more than DM but I hope we can all hear the differnce in complexity and structure. Oh, I admit TRC has alot of brilliance in it. I think 1+1+1=3 is funkier than Erotic City, and more complex indeed. I just dislike the album. It's too long and the Darth Vader narration just irks me to no end. So my problems with his recent output aren't meant to imply that he hasn't become a better musician or song writer from a technical aspect, but that I just don't find the albums all that brilliant so much as annoying or boring. TRC is a tedius affair for me, and I can't sit through it. As far as contraversy is concerned, I love Nine Inch Nail's Downward Spiral and The The's MindBomb, so contraversy I can handle. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Being a fan of TRC, when you put that back to Back against Musicology, can you not see what a pathetically weak album it is?
i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Being a fan of TRC, when you put that back to Back against Musicology, can you not see what a pathetically weak album it is?
i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Being a fan of TRC, when you put that back to Back against Musicology, can you not see what a pathetically weak album it is?
i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. I actually looked at Musicology as a "touring" album. The songs are short, fresh, and all designed to sound much better live than on record. I would imagine all the songs off the album sound better live. Prince used to write songs that sounded better in the studio than live (Kiss is a song I have never heard an impressive live version of compared to the Maxi-single, andit joins the ranks of When Doves Cry and Alphabet Street). But now the music, instrumentation, ...EVERYTHING... sounds like he's more concerned about how the songs come off live than in the studio. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. That's just it. Prince doesn't have to be inspired to make enjoyable work. Everything doesn't need to be a masterpiece. That's like having a lover and expecting them to blow u off the bed in every lovemaking session. Its not going to happen. its the ups and downs that make things interesting. Musicology is not a masterpiece but it is a very wellcrafted series of songs. Prince created that album with songwriting in mind. He is saying to other musicians this is how u write good songs. He toned down the weirdness and obtuseness and let everyone know he can just write "good" songs without extremes and excess. | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Being a fan of TRC, when you put that back to Back against Musicology, can you not see what a pathetically weak album it is?
i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. I think u are exactly right in your assesment. | |
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tricky99 said: HamsterHuey said: So you are only a fan if you appreciate all his work? Now that's a bit... ermmmm extreme, innit? So when I tell you that the last three albums are just boring, re-hashed funk, disco and middle of the road rock I came to expect from Richard Marx in the 80's, then I am a 'so-called'fan? WOOHOO! You are so-called intellegunt! It means you're an ex-fan. U can't be a "fan" of something or someone u don't like. That goes against the very definition of the word. Just accept that u are not a fan. I'm sure Prince doesn't see u as a fan lol. Anyone that would compare Prince to Richard marx on a sonic level is not too bright or at the least as a terrible sense of hearing. Prince doesn't consider anyone fans. You would know that if you were a Fam. These so called fams, fanatically praising everything drive me nuts. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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Mars23 said: tricky99 said: It means you're an ex-fan. U can't be a "fan" of something or someone u don't like. That goes against the very definition of the word. Just accept that u are not a fan. I'm sure Prince doesn't see u as a fan lol. Anyone that would compare Prince to Richard marx on a sonic level is not too bright or at the least as a terrible sense of hearing. Prince doesn't consider anyone fans. You would know that if you were a Fam. These so called fams, fanatically praising everything drive me nuts. I don't think there is anyone praising everything he does. It just so happens that everthing he does is liked by some fan. So while some didn't like PE others did. Some of the people who hated PE love 3121 and vis-versa. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. i ain't callin no life o' no party no critically acclaimed anything other than a critically acclaimed pain in my bootie kazoo though i WILL take that song over "get on the boat" any day. i look at musicology as a dumb summer fun pop album with a lot of nods to old prince sounds from over the years, nothing more and nothing less. and listening to it in that perspective, i can enjoy it for what it is. if i were expecting it to be as personal and as complex as TRC or lovesexy, i would have thrown it in the garbage by now. but that's why i listen to TRC and lovesexy when i want that kind of vibe from him, and listen to something like musicology when i want something poppy and light. | |
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tricky99 said: From 2004-2007 Prince has produced 3 albums Musicology, 3121, and Planet Earth. I consider each album to be stellar work. I think many so-called fans underrate these albums. I think those fans that are expecting innovation and general weirdness from Prince miss the great song writing and craftsmanship that Prince illustrates on the albums.
It as if fans can’t appreciate well-structured songs from Prince unless they are outlandish in some way. I really don’t think there is anyone else alive and making music who could make those three albums. They don’t have the range, abilities, and imagination to create them. Feel free to make a case for a contemporary artist who has shown this ability. Those so-called fans that put down these albums remind me of Hendrix fans who couldn’t get past the theatrics of Hendrix and see the great songwriter underneath. I find it so disturbing that people keep trying to stop the march of time. Prince changed because he had too. Just as we all must do. I love is old work but I don’t live there. I wish more of his fans could appreciate him as he is and not as they wish he would be. Prince is still working at a very high level. A level must performers/musicians will never reach. I think some of u will only appreciate his work later in the years to come. Xpectations are a bitch Good Forever in my life... | |
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Call7779311 said: My thoughts exactly Tricky99 - couldn't agree with you more
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Tame said: I admit that I do not have the ability to produce fantastic music...That is why loving Prince is easier, than trying to pick up a guitar at 42...I'm lazy that way.
Tame you crack me up sometimes! I appreciate Prince of yesterday, today and tomorrow and time transcends so I still see him as he was, is and will be. Its all good and the soul lives 4 eva! Im gonna get as much P music as I can while I can! | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: I learned something major when Musicology was about to come out. I learned that for me, if I continued to compare Prince of today to Prince of 1982 or 1988 or 1995, I was only setting myself up for disappointment and heartache. The only thing I needed to hope for was for an album that I would like and enjoy. Ever since I changed my way of thinking and let go of unrealistic expectation like wanting Purple Rain 2 or just something innovative, I've enjoyed the albums that have come out since 2004. I have an album that is in my top 10 from this time, 3121, and I even heard TRC with a different ear and I love it more now then I did when it came out and I liked it when it came out.
To me, music is not a biology project that I disect left and right, it's just something that either grabs me or it doesn't and Prince is the one artist who still grabs me from when I was a little kid. I don't like everything he's done but what I focus on what I love and thank God there's a lot for me to choose from. I'm off the soapbox now naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD Im sorry i dont have ATWIAD - what is that standing for?? Is the consesus that it was good or sucked? Id probably like it tho. [Edited 8/13/08 12:55pm] | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: i look at musicology like a singer/songwriter album, whereas i look at TRC like a concept album. while i think musicology was where he began "dumbing down" his music, i still think there's a lot of interesting songwriting going on, and a few stabs at some inspired musicianship. but mostly i think he just wanted to throw some tunes together that were worthy of the big tour that would be going along with it. TRC is something that i see more as a project or a manifesto. he had different aims and goals for that album, so of course he's going to put a lot more into it. of course i think TRC is a more complex and fleshed-out album than musicology...but considering the intent for both of those albums, i can kinda appreciate musicology for what it is, even though i think it has traces of a blanding trend that would increasingly infect his next two albums. !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. The bolded statement is something I want to touch on for a moment. How do any of us fans know whether Prince was "inspired" or not? I mean just because some fans aren't inspired by the music doesn't mean that Prince wasn't inspired to make it or else why did he even waste time to go to the studio and record the song in the first place? And it's not like we are with him 24/7 to know what Prince is seeing or experiencing in his life to write the songs that he writes. Maybe it's just me but I really don't understand the logic of fans when they say that Prince wasn't inspired. Not trying to pick on you Supa but just wanting to make a point with what you said, so please don't take it personally. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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DesireeNevermind said: L4OATheOriginal said: naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD Im sorry i dont have ATWIAD - what is that standing for?? Is the consesus that it was good or sucked? Id probably like it tho. [Edited 8/13/08 12:55pm] ATWIAD = Around The World In A Day I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplecam said: I learned something major when Musicology was about to come out. I learned that for me, if I continued to compare Prince of today to Prince of 1982 or 1988 or 1995, I was only setting myself up for disappointment and heartache. The only thing I needed to hope for was for an album that I would like and enjoy. Ever since I changed my way of thinking and let go of unrealistic expectation like wanting Purple Rain 2 or just something innovative, I've enjoyed the albums that have come out since 2004. I have an album that is in my top 10 from this time, 3121, and I even heard TRC with a different ear and I love it more now then I did when it came out and I liked it when it came out.
To me, music is not a biology project that I disect left and right, it's just something that either grabs me or it doesn't and Prince is the one artist who still grabs me from when I was a little kid. I don't like everything he's done but what I focus on what I love and thank God there's a lot for me to choose from. I'm off the soapbox now naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD I agree with you on that and guess what I saw that Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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purplecam said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. The bolded statement is something I want to touch on for a moment. How do any of us fans know whether Prince was "inspired" or not? I mean just because some fans aren't inspired by the music doesn't mean that Prince wasn't inspired to make it or else why did he even waste time to go to the studio and record the song in the first place? And it's not like we are with him 24/7 to know what Prince is seeing or experiencing in his life to write the songs that he writes. Maybe it's just me but I really don't understand the logic of fans when they say that Prince wasn't inspired. Not trying to pick on you Supa but just wanting to make a point with what you said, so please don't take it personally. Stop licking his ass and get over to the size, bottomhood and torture thread and validate my theories! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: purplecam said: The bolded statement is something I want to touch on for a moment. How do any of us fans know whether Prince was "inspired" or not? I mean just because some fans aren't inspired by the music doesn't mean that Prince wasn't inspired to make it or else why did he even waste time to go to the studio and record the song in the first place? And it's not like we are with him 24/7 to know what Prince is seeing or experiencing in his life to write the songs that he writes. Maybe it's just me but I really don't understand the logic of fans when they say that Prince wasn't inspired. Not trying to pick on you Supa but just wanting to make a point with what you said, so please don't take it personally. Stop licking his ass and get over to the size, bottomhood and torture thread and validate my theories! Alright alright I'll go over there. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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DesireeNevermind said: L4OATheOriginal said: naw get back on it cause u shared the ephipany i had with atwiad hoping that it would b like purple rain and it wasn't. i shelved that album 4 3 days after i got it until i took a deep breathe and opened my mind 2 it. and because of that moment in my life, EVERY SINGLE ARTIST i like i treat the same way. restrictions r a bitch, unless the person restricting u in handcuffs and blindfolds and ..oh shit ..WRONG THREAD Im sorry i dont have ATWIAD - what is that standing for?? Is the consesus that it was good or sucked? Id probably like it tho. [Edited 8/13/08 12:55pm] atwiad= around the world in a day man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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purplecam said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: !+!+!=# vs Life of the Party. I mean honestly, how anyone can hold LOP up as some critically acclaimed achievement is beyond me The fanatics are just desperate for Prince to be revered by the masses when the reality is that other than TRC, Prince hasn't been inspired in at least a decade. The bolded statement is something I want to touch on for a moment. How do any of us fans know whether Prince was "inspired" or not? I mean just because some fans aren't inspired by the music doesn't mean that Prince wasn't inspired to make it or else why did he even waste time to go to the studio and record the song in the first place? And it's not like we are with him 24/7 to know what Prince is seeing or experiencing in his life to write the songs that he writes. Maybe it's just me but I really don't understand the logic of fans when they say that Prince wasn't inspired. Not trying to pick on you Supa but just wanting to make a point with what you said, so please don't take it personally. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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