simm0061 said: blackguitaristz said: There u go... I believe the name of the thread was "The 1999 Album and the White Girl Element". I talked about how prominent Lisa, & J.J. (although she's mixed) were on that album and the situations P placed them in. White girls in a black setting (funk). Nobody was doing that on albums then. Tracks like D.M.S.R, where Lisa screams at the end "Somebody help me...Somebody call the police" and the music to that track is one of the funkiest on the album. ( a black setting) "Lady Cab Driver" another straight funk song, P is laying it to Jill. "Automatic" with Lisa and J.J. moaning and shit. Same thing. P was painting a visual picture sound wise with these tracks (funk) and then placing Lisa and Jill's vocals to contrast with that enviroment. Basically white girls at a black party. "Somebody help me...Somebody call the police".. Nowadays, it's not an issue but back in 82, although I dated white girls, inter-racial dating wasn't hardly as accepted then as now. Or as widespread. So in P's mindset, back when this album came out, was to go against the grain, to shock. Like he's always done. That was my take on one of the elements on that album. So are you saying, that you believe that by using the name Marcia, Prince is letting the listeners know that it is specifically a white girl he is referring to? So the name Marica is being used much like the common use of the name "Becky" to mean "white chic" nowadays? Oh. My. God, Becky!! Interesting. becky, lindsey, lacey, hillary, haily. But I never met a white Marcia I swear. | |
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blackguitaristz said: EmeraldSkies said: I listened to it again,and more closely,and it sounds like he is saying Fuck you Martian. Okay Prince,if you say so.
That's what I mentioned earlier. When I did a thread on this myself a long time ago, that was part of the topic. Marcia or martian. To me, I hear Marcia. I don't hear the "n" at the end. I hear MARCIA clearly and distinctly! BGZ is that your pic in that avatar? If it is U LOOK GOOD! | |
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DesireeNevermind said: blackguitaristz said: That's what I mentioned earlier. When I did a thread on this myself a long time ago, that was part of the topic. Marcia or martian. To me, I hear Marcia. I don't hear the "n" at the end. I hear MARCIA clearly and distinctly! BGZ is that your pic in that avatar? If it is U LOOK GOOD! Yes, that's me...Thank you. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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To bad he did'nt include that in the lyrics booklet that came with the cd. I guess if someone sees him they will have to ask.. Hey Prince! What is it Marsha or Martian? [Edited 8/7/08 11:08am] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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blackguitaristz said: simm0061 said: Ok, I've listened to it on two different sets of headphones, like 20 times...It sounds like he is saying "Look here Martian, I sincerely..." I always though it was Marcia cause, well Martian makes no sense at all (unless he originally had a whole space theme concept (i.e. Moonbeam Levels)). It really does sound like he is saying Martian, though. WELL, I hear "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia" Dammit! (smile) Yeah, it has to be Marcia. Martian makes no sense. I think it is just the way that he is pronouncing the name with a short "a" at the end, that makes it sound like there is an "n" on there. | |
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Sometimes I hear Marsha/Marcia and sometimes I hear Martian.
But why in hell would he say "martian"? that doesn't make a lick of sense. I'm sure it's Marsha/Marcia. Unless martian is some wierd slang I've never heard before. | |
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ToraToraDreams said: Sometimes I hear Marsha/Marcia and sometimes I hear Martian.
But why in hell would he say "martian"? that doesn't make a lick of sense. I'm sure it's Marsha/Marcia. Unless martian is some wierd slang I've never heard before. Martian is slang for Pussy. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ToraToraDreams said: Sometimes I hear Marsha/Marcia and sometimes I hear Martian.
But why in hell would he say "martian"? that doesn't make a lick of sense. I'm sure it's Marsha/Marcia. Unless martian is some wierd slang I've never heard before. Martian is slang for Pussy. ...Are you serious? | |
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i thought it was Martin live simply,love generously, care deeply,speak kindly, be loyal | |
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It's all Jan's fault..... | |
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simm0061 said: blackguitaristz said: WELL, I hear "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia" Dammit! (smile) Yeah, it has to be Marcia. Martian makes no sense. I think it is just the way that he is pronouncing the name with a short "a" at the end, that makes it sound like there is an "n" on there. That's what I was trying to tell ya'! SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Personally i think the "Martha" in the lyrics from Insatiable refers to singer Martika, whose birth name is Martha.
I mean, Prince was writing and producing songs for her in the time The Diamond and Pearls album was recorded, and..well... he seems to have a sort of habit to share the bed with his female 'protegees'... so... I got no proof for this at all, just a guess, but i think it sounds more plausible then that MTV VJ called Martha. [Edited 8/11/08 15:08pm] | |
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DesireeNevermind said: ToraToraDreams said: Sometimes I hear Marsha/Marcia and sometimes I hear Martian.
But why in hell would he say "martian"? that doesn't make a lick of sense. I'm sure it's Marsha/Marcia. Unless martian is some wierd slang I've never heard before. Martian is slang for Pussy. Is that right? So if I said to a woman "Look here baby,..I don't want to dance, I don't want to talk..I just want your martian" then she'll KNOW what time it is...Yeah, I'll try that. (smile) "What it is baby... give me some martian!" SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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I always heard 'martian' myself.. lol
By the way, that reminds me of the song SEX. On that song there is a verse that goes 'So my name is ..... I can make you happy you see. I come from planet Venus and i take you there, if you can be my extacy'. At the place of the dots he sings something that sounds to me like 'Ann Dolphin', 'A dolphin; or 'Endolphin' (Endorphin?) I can not quite make out what he is really singing or meaning there... Anyone has an idea? | |
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EmeraldSkies said: To bad he did'nt include that in the lyrics booklet that came with the cd. I guess if someone sees him they will have to ask.. Hey Prince! What is it Marsha or Martian?
[Edited 8/7/08 11:08am] maybe in his guitar /piano books it. i have all they put out but they are in storage due 2 fire. another orger should have that particular one! live simply,love generously, care deeply,speak kindly, be loyal | |
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blackguitaristz said: DesireeNevermind said: Martian is slang for Pussy. Is that right? So if I said to a woman "Look here baby,..I don't want to dance, I don't want to talk..I just want your martian" then she'll KNOW what time it is...Yeah, I'll try that. (smile) "What it is baby... give me some martian!" Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Personally i think the "Martha" in the lyrics from Insatiable refers to singer Martika, whose birth name is Martha.
I mean, Prince was writing and producing songs for her in the time The Diamond and Pearls album was recorded, and..well... he seems to have a sort of habit to share the bed with his female 'protegees'... so... I got no proof for this at all, just a guess, but i think it sounds more plausible then that MTV VJ called Martha. [Edited 8/11/08 15:08pm] Robin Powers said insatiable was about her. | |
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EmeraldSkies said: blackguitaristz said: Is that right? So if I said to a woman "Look here baby,..I don't want to dance, I don't want to talk..I just want your martian" then she'll KNOW what time it is...Yeah, I'll try that. (smile) "What it is baby... give me some martian!" You know what I'm saying? The girl would be like "Huh?! You want some WHAT?!" SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Um, how come my pic didn't show up? Ignore the previous effort! | |
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Here it is
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well one thing about the whole marsha martain etc. thing i agree on with blackguitaristz is that yeah prince is definetly up to the whole invoking thought process and imagery. thats one thing he does best. look how many different views came out of people after everyone thought about it or didn't think about it. just heard listened. | |
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I believe it is Marsha. Who would want a BJ from an alien martian..? Doesn't make sense. | |
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I hear Martian | |
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rap said: Um, how come my pic didn't show up? Ignore the previous effort!
.. because you put ..[img] and [url] together and u only put the [img] ..and u dont put [/img] in the beginning... it's [img] link [/img] | |
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Much Thanks! | |
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rap said: Much Thanks!
your welcome | |
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Not being an native speaker and unfamiliar with American dialects, when I was a teenager I used to think it was a weird way of pronouncing "emotion", or "... your motion" (whatever that was supposed to mean). It's rather comforting with all threads about Americans and Brits not sure what he says (even though we all know what he's talkign about...) a lot of the time | |
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