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DavidEye said: Here's a little trivia about the "We Are The World" song...
Michael Actually Wrote most of the song.He is Cool with Lionel Richie&More or less gave Him some Credit.I have the song&still think it was Alright for it's time period.MJ has always been about Worldly Themes&the Cat doesn't get enough Credit for bringing the Message aspect of His Work IMHO.***Originally,Stevie Wonder was supposed to write this song but he was busy recording his 'In Square Circle' album.So Quincy asked Michael Jackson and Lionel Ritchie to write the song instead. ***"We Are The World" has sold more copies than any other single in history. ***At the entrance to the recording studio,Quincy placed a sign on the door that said "CHECK YOUR EGOS AT THE DOOR".Perhaps this is the REAL reason Prince didn't do it? mistermaxxx | |
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"There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
Take away that ignorant line from "Hello" and I think he was fully justified by at least contributing a song to the soundtrack. | |
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Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
Take away that ignorant line from "Hello" and I think he was fully justified by at least contributing a song to the soundtrack. Ignorant? Lame? oh NO, I dont THINK SO...There IS just as much hunger here at home, as there is in Africa...but for SOME damn reason, the Government (and everyone else) has turned a blind eye to it...dont get me started... ***************************************************
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LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
Take away that ignorant line from "Hello" and I think he was fully justified by at least contributing a song to the soundtrack. Ignorant? Lame? oh NO, I dont THINK SO...There IS just as much hunger here at home, as there is in Africa...but for SOME damn reason, the Government (and everyone else) has turned a blind eye to it...dont get me started... Fact remains the line was a lame excuse for not helping out a worthy charitable event. | |
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Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
Take away that ignorant line from "Hello" and I think he was fully justified by at least contributing a song to the soundtrack. Ignorant? Lame? oh NO, I dont THINK SO...There IS just as much hunger here at home, as there is in Africa...but for SOME damn reason, the Government (and everyone else) has turned a blind eye to it...dont get me started... Fact remains the line was a lame excuse for not helping out a worthy charitable event. Wrong, it wasn't a lame excuse...it was a FACT...and it still IS a fact. No matter what Prince's true intentions of not wanting to participate in the recording were, he had a valid point with that lyric, PERIOD. And furthermore, worthwhile? Hell no..."We Are The World" was nothing but a big extravagant display of "look what we're doing, we're righteous cuz we're helping people" blah blah bullshit. In other words, they were all hammin it up to make themselves look good, and Prince knew it (and even I knew it, and I was 13). [This message was edited Tue Nov 12 8:43:40 PST 2002 by LadyCabDriver] ***************************************************
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Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. ***************************************************
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I remember he did some extra free matinee shows for deaf kids etc..did he tame his show down?..did he do Darling Nikki etc in front of the kids? [This message was edited Tue Nov 12 8:49:11 PST 2002 by rdhull] "Climb in my fur." | |
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rdhull said: I remember he did some extra free matinee shows for deaf kids etc..did he tame his show down?..did he do Darling Nikki etc in front of the kids?
[This message was edited Tue Nov 12 8:49:11 PST 2002 by rdhull] that's a good question lol ***************************************************
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So tell me the whole story because I'm So Prince wasn't apart of the We are the world recording session at all? He just gave the one song For The Tears In Your Eyes? Am I right about that? Somebody break it down for me. Thanks | |
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LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? | |
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Thecherryloon said: Prince was, and remains, an idiot in his decision making and career moves.
I could type a list, but who could be bothered to read it all? I love this!!! test | |
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PFunkjazz said: Thecherryloon said: Prince was, and remains, an idiot in his decision making and career moves.
I could type a list, but who could be bothered to read it all? I love this!!! oh, what-the-fuck-eva... ***************************************************
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Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? ***************************************************
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SexualSuicide said: I was listening to the 12' of hello at work. The line "There's just as much hunger here at home". Made perfect sense to me. We have tried for so many years try to be the heros of the world when there's problems. What about our own homefront?
So my question to you is: Did you think Prince was being an asshole at the time, or trying to prove a point? A lot of industry people thought he was a real big jerk for not singing. Although Sheila E. was present. Just like him not performing live at the USA for Africa concerts. He just gave a video "4 The Tears In Your Eyes". (Great song!) I'll be honest, at the time I thought Prince made a bad move not performing w/ everyone. But now many years later I can see his reason why. Well, if he wanted to prove a point he wouldn't have submitted a song for the b-side. He just didn't think he'd be comfortable in that particular situation and decline to participate. That's it, stop trying to make things into something they simply weren't. As for people who say there's just as much hunger in the US as in Africa, well, I won't deny that there is a lot of poverty over here, but I don't think you people understand how much worse it is in other countries. | |
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LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. | |
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Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. | |
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DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. ***************************************************
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LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. no, he did it cause he was a prissy, self centred person who knew that in not participating, he would draw attention and publicity to himself anyway, and in 17 years blindly loyal 'fams' would still defend this act of arrogance forever more. [This message was edited Wed Nov 13 10:00:18 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon] | |
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Thecherryloon said: LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. no, he did it cause he was a prissy, self centred person who knew that in not participating, he would draw attention and publicity to himself anyway, and in 17 years blindly loyal 'fams' would still defend this act of arrogance forever more. [This message was edited Wed Nov 13 10:00:18 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon] Holding something against someone that they did 15 years ago...who's the real prissy here? Yeah, I think you know. ***************************************************
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LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. I don't know if I would go so far as to say that it was all a "farce".Those artists gave their time and talent to this project,and they didn't do it for money or fame.They did it because they were all concerned about the hunger problems in Africa.How can you say that is a "farce"? Are you implying that respectable artists like Stevie Wonder,Quincy Jones,Bruce Springsteen,Bob Dylan and the others had OTHER reasons for participating? And you're forgetting that Prince WAS a part of that "farce" too.He donated a song "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" to the USA For Africa album!Not to mention the fact that he sent Sheila E. to "represent him" at the session. So I guess he did want a part of that "bullshit",but to a lesser extent [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:08:01 PST 2002 by DavidEye] [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:23:31 PST 2002 by DavidEye] | |
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LadyCabDriver said: Thecherryloon said: LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. no, he did it cause he was a prissy, self centred person who knew that in not participating, he would draw attention and publicity to himself anyway, and in 17 years blindly loyal 'fams' would still defend this act of arrogance forever more. [This message was edited Wed Nov 13 10:00:18 PST 2002 by Thecherryloon] Holding something against someone that they did 15 years ago...who's the real prissy here? Yeah, I think you know. Wow! turning my own words against me! a stroke of genius.you totally ignored the 'past tense' style of my post.I'm not saying Prince is like that now, but that doesn't really matter, if a similar record was made today, he wouldn't be invited anyway. | |
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Who cares why he didnt?I think he had his own good reasons for it! | |
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I think prince donating a track was far the grreater gesture. 4 the tears in your eyes is a beautiful song, simple, stripprd down and honest. It is a world away from the PR job that was 'we are the world'.
the senserity in prince' voice right down to his last 'thank u' as the song ends inspires me everytime i hear it. beautiful. p.s he offered them raspberry beret but they turned it down. man he knew what he was capable of back then. i mean, offereing a track of that calibre away because you know that you can make another just as great!! You do as I say | |
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DavidEye said: LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. I don't know if I would go so far as to say that it was all a "farce".Those artists gave their time and talent to this project,and they didn't do it for money or fame.They did it because they were all concerned about the hunger problems in Africa.How can you say that is a "farce"? Are you implying that respectable artists like Stevie Wonder,Quincy Jones,Bruce Springsteen,Bob Dylan and the others had OTHER reasons for participating? And you're forgetting that Prince WAS a part of that "farce" too.He donated a song "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" to the USA For Africa album!Not to mention the fact that he sent Sheila E. to "represent him" at the session. So I guess he did want a part of that "bullshit",but to a lesser extent [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:08:01 PST 2002 by DavidEye] [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:23:31 PST 2002 by DavidEye] He was being polite when he sent her, and when he donated a song to the album. But no, he didn't want to be a part of it, and sure it may have been because of arrogance, but so-the-hell-what? Half the money that they raised that night DIDN'T EVEN GO WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO!!! ***************************************************
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DavidEye said: Here's a little trivia about the "We Are The World" song...
***Originally,Stevie Wonder was supposed to write this song but he was busy recording his 'In Square Circle' album.So Quincy asked Michael Jackson and Lionel Ritchie to write the song instead. ***"We Are The World" has sold more copies than any other single in history. ***At the entrance to the recording studio,Quincy placed a sign on the door that said "CHECK YOUR EGOS AT THE DOOR".Perhaps this is the REAL reason Prince didn't do it? --- No, Prince said in his Rolling Stone interview. That he never said he was going to be at the session. If this is true and he let the organizers know ahead of time that he was not going to be there why put it out that he stood everyone up? It is called jelousy or player hating. In addition, Prince is a rebel and he is going to do what he wants to do. | |
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Thecherryloon said: Prince was, and remains, an idiot in his decision making and career moves.
I could type a list, but who could be bothered to read it all? --- He is an idiot for deciding what charity he wants to donate his time and money to? | |
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LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: LadyCabDriver said: DavidEye said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: LadyCabDriver said: Essence said: "There's just as much hunger here at home..." was a lame diss against We Are The World IMO. It's not like he had a USA poverty charity to support the exact moment USA 4 Africa was recording.
How do you know he wasn't supporting an American food charity? If I'm not mistaken, he put on several food drives at his concerts during the Purple Rain tour. All I'm saying is there's no need to belittle one charity by judging it against another. If your in a position to, why not help everyone you can? How in the HELL is saying that the hunger problem in the US being as big as it is in Africa, belittling that charity? "Just as much as hunger here at home" is in direct conflict with supporting the USA 4 Africa charitable events he's talking of, ok? It's absolutely ridiculous to compare "hunger" in the USA and the mass starvation of Africans in mid 80s at the time of this event anyway. Silly conversation. I agree! Also,in the United States,it is obviously easier for a hungry person to find food than in Africa,where they have so many under-developed towns.But this is really a silly argument. I dont give a damn. The USA for Africa charity was a farce, at best, an excuse for most of those artists to ham it up and play righteous people; Prince wanted no part of that bullshit, and I dont blame him. I don't know if I would go so far as to say that it was all a "farce".Those artists gave their time and talent to this project,and they didn't do it for money or fame.They did it because they were all concerned about the hunger problems in Africa.How can you say that is a "farce"? Are you implying that respectable artists like Stevie Wonder,Quincy Jones,Bruce Springsteen,Bob Dylan and the others had OTHER reasons for participating? And you're forgetting that Prince WAS a part of that "farce" too.He donated a song "4 The Tears In Your Eyes" to the USA For Africa album!Not to mention the fact that he sent Sheila E. to "represent him" at the session. So I guess he did want a part of that "bullshit",but to a lesser extent [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:08:01 PST 2002 by DavidEye] [This message was edited Thu Nov 14 5:23:31 PST 2002 by DavidEye] He was being polite when he sent her, and when he donated a song to the album. But no, he didn't want to be a part of it, and sure it may have been because of arrogance, but so-the-hell-what? Half the money that they raised that night DIDN'T EVEN GO WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO!!! --- Lady Cab Driver is right. Most of the money did not go where it was supposed to go. We now know that it is the IMF and the US wack-ass foreign policies that keep people in Africa hungry. Prince has had can food drives and cost drives at his USA concerts for years. If I donate a coat or can food to a homeless shelter at least I know that a needy person will receive the items. Perhaps he feels this a better why to help. | |
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