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barberella said: Jeffiner said: As in UTCM ...."Sex" !!????? Im probably being dim here but hunny what is UTCM??? It's Under the Cherry Moon?! The film, he says it in a funny way, not really important! | |
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Jeffiner said: Riverpoet31 said: He probably tried coke during the early eighties: look at his performance with James Brown and Michael Jackson for example.
There has much been written about his XTC-trip which made him shelf the Black Album, and record and release Lovesexy instead. In the mid-nineties he looked very Ill IMO, way too thin and white, it could be anorexia, depression, or maybe some type of drugs. I don't know. Probably... could have... maybe... how does that equate to Yes? ----- All we know is that he took Estacy because he told a lot of people around him about his bad experience with it. I do not know of any other stories about other drugs. We do know that he has stated that he use to drink a lot and that the JW's and Larry helped him with that issue. This is one of the reasons I think he got involved with the JW's. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Geee.... What is your problem with the idea that Prince might have done some drugs?
Many people do, especially the ones in 'the business', its no big deal. ----- Why do you assume that he has used Coke. I can't understand why he could not have been drinking at the JB show. | |
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Memorial00 said: barberella said: I was chatting to a policeman and the manager type guy that was in charge of escorting Prince whilst at the O2 on seeing prince go up the escalator to the cinema with a girl and the conversation went like this ... ME "wheres he going?" P.C. "to bed i should think at this time of night" ME "no, even though he doesnt drink and his body is a temple hes a real party animal so i very much doubt that" (then the escort cut in) MANAGER/ESCORT "yeah he may not drink but he does other stuff!!!" ... I WAS GUTTED! on trying to get him to elaborate what he was implying he promptly changed the subject , make of that what you will!!!
i hope this is false. prince seems way too good to be involved in that lifestyle. ----- I find the comment that he does not drink by the escort to be puzzling since we have seen reference to P drinking in clubs in many articles. In addition, we know from Eric Leeds that he was taking pain killers on the Europen leg of ONA tour for his joint problems. | |
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Yes it's very inappropriate to imply that someone's doing drugs or anything like that without anything to substatiate the claim,.....But yes i definately believe he has, and by the looks of him in the 90's and his public behavior,the dramatic sudden drop in quality of his work, i would say it was meth. He shows all the classic traits of someone who was, and i also believe that Larry Graham helped him clean up, he slowly started looking better, not as crazy after he started hanging out with the man. Definately looks much better now adays
...or maybe he was just Ill [Edited 8/3/08 11:07am] | |
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Either way, whether he was ill or on drugs, each is a great excuse to help explain his 90's music,
a style of music best described as MilliVanilli smothered in cheese! | |
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Drugs are just another collection of chemicals, you take or abuse...A can of pepsi is a drug...and it's not a problem until you are drinking a case a day. I'm trying to cut down...I'm at 16 cans a day. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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violetblues said: Yes it's very inappropriate to imply that someone's doing drugs or anything like that without anything to substatiate the claim,.....
So, don't allege that someone has taken drugs unless you can provide some evidence to back it up ... But yes i definately believe he has, and by the looks of him in the 90's and his public behavior,the dramatic sudden drop in quality of his work, i would say it was meth. He shows all the classic traits of someone who was, and i also believe that Larry Graham helped him clean up, he slowly started looking better, not as crazy after he started hanging out with the man. Definately looks much better now adays
...or maybe he was just Ill So, in your view, he looked ill and the quality of his music deteriorated, and therefore that's sufficient to allege that he took drugs ... and even to predict which particular narcotic was involved. ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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langebleu said: violetblues said: Yes it's very inappropriate to imply that someone's doing drugs or anything like that without anything to substatiate the claim,.....
So, don't allege that someone has taken drugs unless you can provide some evidence to back it up ... But yes i definately believe he has, and by the looks of him in the 90's and his public behavior,the dramatic sudden drop in quality of his work, i would say it was meth. He shows all the classic traits of someone who was, and i also believe that Larry Graham helped him clean up, he slowly started looking better, not as crazy after he started hanging out with the man. Definately looks much better now adays
...or maybe he was just Ill So, in your view, he looked ill and the quality of his music deteriorated, and therefore that's sufficient to allege that he took drugs ... and even to predict which particular narcotic was involved. very good sherlock, you know lot about Prince and i have much respect for you , but take a couple of these from time to time dude [Edited 8/3/08 15:57pm] | |
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lets just skip the BS, I would put money on it,
of course the dude was on drugs | |
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laurarichardson said: Jeffiner said: Probably... could have... maybe... how does that equate to Yes? ----- All we know is that he took Estacy because he told a lot of people around him about his bad experience with it. I do not know of any other stories about other drugs. We do know that he has stated that he use to drink a lot and that the JW's and Larry helped him with that issue. This is one of the reasons I think he got involved with the JW's. When and where did he ever state this? I don't recall him ever confessing to having had a problem with alcohol. | |
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violetblues said: langebleu said: So, in your view, he looked ill and the quality of his music deteriorated, and therefore that's sufficient to allege that he took drugs ... and even to predict which particular narcotic was involved. very good sherlock, you know lot about Prince and i have much respect for you , but take a couple of these from time to time dude Thoroughly chilled thanks. ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. | |
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simm0061 said: laurarichardson said: ----- All we know is that he took Estacy because he told a lot of people around him about his bad experience with it. I do not know of any other stories about other drugs. We do know that he has stated that he use to drink a lot and that the JW's and Larry helped him with that issue. This is one of the reasons I think he got involved with the JW's. When and where did he ever state this? I don't recall him ever confessing to having had a problem with alcohol. ----- I recall Prince stating this in an interview where he was asked did he see Larry as a father figure and he said yes because he was father was no role model and how Larry had helped him with drinking issues. I am not surprised you do not remember it everybody on this board wigs out so much about Larry and the JW’s that they pay no attention to anything P has say about it. | |
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violetblues said: Either way, whether he was ill or on drugs, each is a great excuse to help explain his 90's music,
a style of music best described as MilliVanilli smothered in cheese! ----- Jesus how the hell do you figure he was on “Meth” and even on P’s worst day he is not as bad as Milli Villni. | |
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laurarichardson said: violetblues said: Either way, whether he was ill or on drugs, each is a great excuse to help explain his 90's music,
a style of music best described as MilliVanilli smothered in cheese! ----- Jesus how the hell do you figure he was on “Meth” and even on P’s worst day he is not as bad as Milli Villni. Whatever he was on, it caused him to produce a outdated kiddie cheesy poppy commercial sound that was not even good enough to put on a Milli Vanilli record,... "Three Chains Of Gold" "Jughead" "The Flow"? Meth will do that to you! It's some bad shit [Edited 8/4/08 12:39pm] | |
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He was getting high long before the 90's .... Youth is wasted on the young ..... | |
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langebleu said: violetblues said: Yes it's very inappropriate to imply that someone's doing drugs or anything like that without anything to substatiate the claim,.....
So, don't allege that someone has taken drugs unless you can provide some evidence to back it up ... But yes i definately believe he has, and by the looks of him in the 90's and his public behavior,the dramatic sudden drop in quality of his work, i would say it was meth. He shows all the classic traits of someone who was, and i also believe that Larry Graham helped him clean up, he slowly started looking better, not as crazy after he started hanging out with the man. Definately looks much better now adays
...or maybe he was just Ill So, in your view, he looked ill and the quality of his music deteriorated, and therefore that's sufficient to allege that he took drugs ... and even to predict which particular narcotic was involved. | |
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violetblues said: laurarichardson said: ----- Jesus how the hell do you figure he was on “Meth” and even on P’s worst day he is not as bad as Milli Villni. Whatever he was on, it caused him to produce a outdated kiddie cheesy poppy commercial sound that was not even good enough to put on a Milli Vanilli record,... "Three Chains Of Gold" "Jughead" "The Flow"? Meth will do that to you! It's some bad shit [Edited 8/4/08 12:39pm] ----- Lot's of good stuff on the "symbol" "GoldExperience" 2nd disc of Emancipation Your picking out the filler cuts which all artist have on their CDs or albums. In addtion, we have loads of shitty music now and I will not even go into the disco era does not mean the artist who made that crappy music was on drugs. Your kind of reaching | |
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laurarichardson said: violetblues said: Whatever he was on, it caused him to produce a outdated kiddie cheesy poppy commercial sound that was not even good enough to put on a Milli Vanilli record,... "Three Chains Of Gold" "Jughead" "The Flow"? Meth will do that to you! It's some bad shit [Edited 8/4/08 12:39pm] ----- Lot's of good stuff on the "symbol" "GoldExperience" 2nd disc of Emancipation Your picking out the filler cuts which all artist have on their CDs or albums. In addtion, we have loads of shitty music now and I will not even go into the disco era does not mean the artist who made that crappy music was on drugs. Your kind of reaching Yes, i'm kidding about the drugs, yes, we have tons of shitty music now ( alot of the hiphop), but we also have some great music (Radiohead, The Raconteurs), just like every decade. By the same token i think Prince 90's music is in the way bad category (me and most the rest of the world) Just another opion, like yours nothing more. I'm a great fan of Mr Nelson, i wouldnt play here if i wasnt. | |
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violetblues said: laurarichardson said: ----- Lot's of good stuff on the "symbol" "GoldExperience" 2nd disc of Emancipation Your picking out the filler cuts which all artist have on their CDs or albums. In addtion, we have loads of shitty music now and I will not even go into the disco era does not mean the artist who made that crappy music was on drugs. Your kind of reaching Yes, i'm kidding about the drugs, yes, we have tons of shitty music now ( alot of the hiphop), but we also have some great music (Radiohead, The Raconteurs), just like every decade. By the same token i think Prince 90's music is in the way bad category (me and most the rest of the world) Just another opion, like yours nothing more. I'm a great fan of Mr Nelson, i wouldnt play here if i wasnt. ----- Your right it is just an opinion. I liked some of the stuff he did in the 90s it was no worst than any of the other music out at the time. I just think he had no chance in hell of selling any of it since he was giving WB the finger the whole time he was putting out the music.(LOL) | |
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I think that this topic has been done to death, overkill, beating a dead horse, etc. | |
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