Or is it just his graphic designer? The imagery/symbolism is apparent.

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Is Prince a Freemason?


no.

of course he is.

What about the design of the "P" in Prince on this ticket...I think its used often. Any thoughts, understandings, of it's symbolism, shape?

Twinkly1 said:

Isn't that just calligraphy?

No, but he is a member of a cult that worships Grace Jones and pancake number 22.

ToraToraDreams said:

Yes, it's old english calligraphy. Looks kinda like an Ark on H2O on its side.

(o.k. that's it, I'm outta here.. :koolaid:

good night.

actually, good question
usually it gets dismissed too quickly
but every once in a great while there's a good post or two about it

3121

I don't understand what a Freemason does...
...what is it?

I don't think so, seriously. But I have noticed little similarities like the 'allseeing eye'
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I think Prince is more likely to be a conspiracy theory nut than a Freemason.

You see from the time he got into the internet from the mid/late 90s there's been some conspiracy theory angles to his some of his songs. I can imagine him beeving away on the internet looking at UFO and Reptillian websites.

wildgoldenhoney said:

another occult ... secret society occult

Freemasons don't allow women around their religious meetings...I don't believe Prince would have time for this.

Freemasonry isn't a religion (they accept members of any religion, iirc) and it's only 'occult' in the literal meaning of 'hidden or secret', not 'black magic'.

I think he just has some uninspired graphic designers at his beck and call either that or he actually travelled through stargate and fully believes the pyramid to be the all seeing eye.

or then again maybe its just good ole fashion american dollar worhsip?

Noo
but while were on this topic is jay z one?????

Erika2k8 said:

Apparently so...

http://www.illuminatiarch...freemason/

Erika2k8 said:

Very much one. So is Kanye. Neither of them try to hide it either. Just the opposite actually.

NouveauDance said:

I doubt it. My Dad is and he always runs around with that damn hat. But its usually for charity work.

30peacessilver said:

no, it's true... they are very secret society, i dont exactly know what they believe in, but i just know there are alot of 'high power' people in it ... and it never dawned on me about Jay-Z.. but sure enough, that is the emblem he IS displaying.. that Rocawear symbol.. it's the Mason's symbol as well..

ascenderx said:

But he'll perform a private party for those 'nice folk' at the Bohemian Grove this summer...

blackguitaristz said:

damn..but i thought kanye came out with Jesus walks and all that. Are you sure its true ?Please back up your statement with a link to a site or something

MrBiGsTuFf said:

My bad blackguitaristz just saw this link. Thanks Big stuff..

I went to a woman's funeral that was a freemason, that thing lasted about 6 hours! What's up with THAT??

MrBiGsTuFf said:

i just looked @ that link ... NO DOUBT.. Jay-Z is a mason... and that 1st video said Masons worship the devil.... i know they're an occult so this doesnt surprise me

Prince Hall's birthdate and birthplace are subject to conjecture. He may have been born in either England, Massachusetts or Barbados, and the year 1738 is now generally agreed on though not certain. Narrative stories of Prince Hall's birth and youth are unsubstantiated and appear to have been invented by their authors (particularly William H. Grimshaw in 1903).

Documents in Massachusetts showing that slaveowner William Hall freed a man named Prince Hall on April 9, 1765 cannot be conclusively linked to any one individual as there exists record of no fewer than 21 males named Prince Hall, and several other men named Prince Hall were living in Boston at that time. It is also unknown whether he was free-born or a freedman.

Prince Hall was a property owner and a registered voter in Boston. He worked as an abolitionist and civil rights activist, fought for laws to protect free blacks in Massachusetts from kidnapping by slave traders, campaigned for schools for black children, and operated a school in his own home.

On March 6, 1775, Prince Hall and fourteen other free black men were initiated, passed and raised in Military Lodge No. 441, an integrated Lodge attached to the British Army and then stationed in Boston.


Prince Hall's grave in Cobb's Hill Burying Ground in Boston, MassachusettsIt is probable that Prince Hall served in the Massachusetts militia during the American Revolutionary War, but his service record is unclear because at least six men from Massachusetts named "Prince Hall" served in the military during the war. Historians George Washington Williams and Carter Woodson believed that this Prince Hall did serve in the war. He may have been one of the black soldiers who fought on the American side of the Battle of Bunker Hill.[2]

When the British Army left Boston in 1776, the black Masons were granted a dispensation for limited operations as African Lodge No. 1. They were entitled to meet as a Lodge, to take part in the Masonic procession on St. John's Day, and to bury their dead with Masonic rites, but not to confer degrees or perform other Masonic functions. Excluded by the Provincial Grand Lodge of Massachusetts, they were granted a charter by the Premier Grand Lodge of England in 1784 as African Lodge No. 459 (but, due to communications problems, did not receive the actual charter until 1787).

Shortly after that, black Masons elsewhere in the United States began contacting Prince Hall with requests to establish affiliated Lodges in their own cities. Consistent with European Masonic practice at that time, African Lodge granted their requests and served as Mother Lodge to new black Lodges in Philadelphia, Providence and New York.


A problem quickly arose for black men wishing to become Masons in the newly formed United States: the members of a Lodge must agree unanimously in an anonymous vote to accept a petitioner to receive the degrees. As a consequence of the unanimity requirement, if just one member of a lodge did not want black men in his Lodge, his vote was enough to cause the petitioner's rejection. Thus, although exceptions did exist, Masonic Lodges and Grand Lodges in the United States generally excluded African Americans. And since the vote is conducted anonymously, this created a second problem: since no one knew who had voted against the applicant, it was impossible to identify a member as pursuing a policy of racism. This allowed even a tiny number of prejudiced members to effectively deny membership to black petitioners, and in some cases even exclude black men who had legitimately been made Masons in integrated jurisdictions. Thus there arose a system of racial segregation in American Masonry, which remained in place until the 1960s and which persists in some jurisdictions even to this day.

In 1791, black Freemasons met in Boston and formed the African Grand Lodge of North America. Prince Hall was unanimously elected its Grand Master and served until his death in 1807. (The claim that he was appointed Provincial Grand Master for North America in 1791 appears to have been fabricated.) The African Grand Lodge was later renamed the Prince Hall Grand Lodge in his honor. In 1827 the African Grand Lodge declared its independence from the United Grand Lodge of England, as the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts had done 45 years earlier. It also stated its independence from all of the white Grand Lodges in the United States.

Today, predominantly black Prince Hall Grand Lodges exist in the United States, Canada, the Caribbean and Liberia, governing Prince Hall Lodges throughout the world. After nearly two centuries of controversy, the Grand Lodge of England was asked to decide the matter of Prince Hall Masonic legitimacy. Carefully studying the records, the Grand Lodge of England concluded that the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Massachusetts was indeed entitled to Masonic recognition, and this against the tradition that, per state, only one recognised Masonic body should exist. As a result, most (though not all) "mainstream" (i.e. predominantly white) Grand Lodges in the United States and elsewhere have extended full fraternal recognition to their Prince Hall counterparts

Aren't the Freemasons a direct derivative of the Knights Templar? So all the buff about the Devil worship was due to Philip IV of France & the loan?

Flowerz said:

Great now I have 2 grill my father as 2 why he would get naked for a ceremony. And what is he up 2. My father is a great business man but very kind. He would never be in something negative!