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Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! No, Beyonce was opening the show and everyone was hyped up about her. However, she surprised everyone by bringing out P. I remember her on the red carpet being interviewed and saying that she had a suruprise in store for the opening, but couldnt say what it was. Of course, meanwhile the org was full of chatter that P was gonna possibly perform that nite, and When Beyonce said she had a surpise....I thought,holy shit P gonna come out w/her. And sho nuff he did. He was the surprise. And he did this to help re-introduce himself to the youngsters at the time, not to mention to help get some publicity and hype for himself because he was about to release Musicology and embark on the Musicology tour. Regardless, P's latest performances have been all about creating some nostalgia for the older folks who arent diehards and also about showing the youngsta's his talent. To us diehards, yes, the performances are nothing new. Still, he was good. [Edited 7/12/08 7:28am] Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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muleFunk said: The discussion needs to be focused on who will be the next Prince,Micheal Jackson,Madonna instead of Prince being past his prime.
We have been stuck in the worst musical era since the Victorian era because there are not any new stars that can take the baton from the eighties superstars. Every song is bullshit rappers or the same tired ass slow jams from the same tired ass Urban bullshit producers. Somebody needs to step up. The problem is that musicians who are trying to step up are not recognized by mainstream media. You literally have to seek out these musicians ironically,by word of mouth or on myspace. Wonder if Prince realizes the benefit of myspace for great indie artist. 
Is Prince past his prime? Although Although I would definately enjoy another great album (like 3121), he has nothing to prove anymore. i just hope he continues to release more music and more live performances and i will be happy. | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: step away from the crack pipe 4 just a moment will ya? if u knew anything about who prince was back in 1994, the answer would have been a resounding NO about doing purple rain at the grammy's cause PRINCE WAS DEAD. look at his per4mance on the american music awards in the following year. did u c him at all when all the "prince" songs were being played? NO. he didn't show up until billy jack bitch. so y would he do purple rain at the grammy's whether being asked 2 or not? furthermore, according 2 prince, he was constantly being asked 2 per4m on the grammy's but he always turned them down. the only reason he did it on the 2004 grammy's was tying in 2 the anniversary of purple rain and he didn't need no non vocalist singer like beyitcha 2 "resurrect" his career. 
So you're saying he'll only perform his biggest hits when it benefits him? Gee, so much for being a "real" musician. And don't tell me Beyonce was there for no reason. If he didn't NEED her there, why WAS she there? i'll answer it with this..did the time need rihanna? she was there because she was nominated 4 grammy's 4 her album. can u recall any other performer from that grammy's telecast? man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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KidaDynamite said: Paris9748430 said: When Prince performed at the Grammy's it had been years since he was in the mainstream public eye. So the average person watching it didn't know they were getting "the same old crap". Yeah, those were old songs, but a majority of the people watching hadn't heard him perform those songs in a long time. Beyonce didn't bring anything extra to the table at all!!! If he would've performed with Beyonce, Ashanti, Brandy, or Monica he would've gotten the same reaction.Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! Don't give me all this crap about suing people, 'cause the average music listener doesn't care about that. That tribute album came out, so that point is moot. If people don't become Prince fans 'cause they can't find a few videos on a website, then to hell with them. He has made 30 years worth of music, and Youtube isn't the only thing! Musicians cancel concerts all the time. Justin Timberlake cancelled a concert 'cause he was hung over! It happens. During the Musicology Tour, he did a show here in Chicago that I went to. The next night he postponed the next night's show 'cause he had strained his vocal chords screaming. That night he cancelled the rest of the shows in the city 'cause of what happened to John Blackwell's daughter. People at least got a week notice instead of cancelling the day of the show. If anyone needs to wake up, it's you. I like the way you talk and al but umm..NO! Wait, let me rephrase that...HELL NAW!!! *cough* okay  all someone has 2 do is mention weavealicious and u come running in man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! just as prince is about to hit a height he seems to come down...we keep coming back for more, out of the 3 80s pop megastars mJ , madonna and prince who is most creative? the answer lies in this qusetion... |
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I think they go too far. Prince has always been innovative, not afraid to try new sounds, new approaches. But after 30 years in the biz, it's almost a law of nature that your output will fade a bit. Not every song, not every album, but generally. And I think Prince should invite other producers occasionally. But Prince is still very interesting. The problem is that people in general are hung up on the idea that he's not good anymore. But often they haven't heard enough of his later output to have a well-researched opinion. | |
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peter430044 said: I think they go too far. Prince has always been innovative, not afraid to try new sounds, new approaches. But after 30 years in the biz, it's almost a law of nature that your output will fade a bit. Not every song, not every album, but generally. And I think Prince should invite other producers occasionally. But Prince is still very interesting. The problem is that people in general are hung up on the idea that he's not good anymore. But often they haven't heard enough of his later output to have a well-researched opinion.
OHHH pleeez!  [Edited 7/12/08 21:55pm] | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: i'll answer it with this..did the time need rihanna? she was there because she was nominated 4 grammy's 4 her album. can u recall any other performer from that grammy's telecast? Kanye West, Alicia Keys, John Mayer, Beyonce, Tina Turner, Prince. And yes, The Time obviously did need Rihanna because, again, what person under 30 would know who they are unless they'd see Purple Rain? | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: KidaDynamite said: I like the way you talk and al but umm..NO! Wait, let me rephrase that...HELL NAW!!! *cough* okay all someone has 2 do is mention weavealicious and u come running in The only time I do run. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: i'll answer it with this..did the time need rihanna? she was there because she was nominated 4 grammy's 4 her album. can u recall any other performer from that grammy's telecast? Kanye West, Alicia Keys, John Mayer, Beyonce, Tina Turner, Prince. And yes, The Time obviously did need Rihanna because, again, what person under 30 would know who they are unless they'd see Purple Rain? r u speaking 4 all under 30 years old? ur making it sound like those under 30 don't know who certain artists r unless they r current crop of non talented folks making crap music that's on the airwaves these days. but unless ur looking up online on who per4med on the 2004 grammy's NOT 2007, i would venture so much as 2 say u can't remember what songs the artists u mentioned per4med and if it was memorable in grammy history. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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thepope2the9s said:[quote]Paris9748430 said:[quote] purplesweat said: Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! No, Beyonce was opening the show and everyone was hyped up about her. However, she surprised everyone by bringing out P. I remember her on the red carpet being interviewed and saying that she had a suruprise in store for the opening, but couldnt say what it was. Of course, meanwhile the org was full of chatter that P was gonna possibly perform that nite, and When Beyonce said she had a surpise....I thought,holy shit P gonna come out w/her. And sho nuff he did. He was the surprise. And he did this to help re-introduce himself to the youngsters at the time, not to mention to help get some publicity and hype for himself because he was about to release Musicology and embark on the Musicology tour. Regardless, P's latest performances have been all about creating some nostalgia for the older folks who arent diehards and also about showing the youngsta's his talent. To us diehards, yes, the performances are nothing new. Still, he was good. [Edited 7/12/08 7:28am] ----- Talk about a bad memory. I watched the E red-carpet show and all of the people interviewed were talking about Prince. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplesweat said: Kanye West, Alicia Keys, John Mayer, Beyonce, Tina Turner, Prince. And yes, The Time obviously did need Rihanna because, again, what person under 30 would know who they are unless they'd see Purple Rain? r u speaking 4 all under 30 years old? ur making it sound like those under 30 don't know who certain artists r unless they r current crop of non talented folks making crap music that's on the airwaves these days. but unless ur looking up online on who per4med on the 2004 grammy's NOT 2007, i would venture so much as 2 say u can't remember what songs the artists u mentioned per4med and if it was memorable in grammy history. The way you worded the sentence, I figured you meant 2007 since you'd just finished talking about Rihanna. As for the under 30s comment, it's true. | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: r u speaking 4 all under 30 years old? ur making it sound like those under 30 don't know who certain artists r unless they r current crop of non talented folks making crap music that's on the airwaves these days. but unless ur looking up online on who per4med on the 2004 grammy's NOT 2007, i would venture so much as 2 say u can't remember what songs the artists u mentioned per4med and if it was memorable in grammy history. The way you worded the sentence, I figured you meant 2007 since you'd just finished talking about Rihanna. As for the under 30s comment, it's true. ahhh no it's not, my neices r all under 30 and they know more than purple rain man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Never!I feel Prince is so ahead of his time(even at 50). We still might not fully grasp his music 50 years from now.  MY BROWN EYES NO LONGER BLUE
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Prince has been burnt out since Emancipation. Its no big deal because all entertainers sooner or later burn out, look at Stevie Wonder. You have to remember Prince was releasing albums in the Disco era. Plus I think Prince is going through what all professional musicians go through, hearing loss. You can tell because the high end has been pushed real high on his mixdowns since the 90's. I'm surprised he has any hearing left. |
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Yes, he is past his prime. There is no doubt about it, it's unarguable - the 80s were his PRIME. In the case of the music industry, it means popularity, creativity and success.
There was a time when every song he released as a single was a hit; and you can't tell me that has stayed constant with his quality. You can argue that he doesn't care about "hits", but the quality still isn't there. He simply is past his prime; but having said that, he still has a lot to offer and we might actually enjoy a lot of it. Prince really hasn't grown as an artist since the mid-90s (there, I said it). He has had moments of brilliance though (The Truth, TRC). |
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