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Printableprince has only done 4 good albums since 90. prince has tons of filler and wasted albums, during the 90's. nobody cares overall about his 90's era. PRINCE buit up his sound and image from 79 to 84. prince hasn't had any momentum since 1989. sorry BOB4theFUNK | |
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rusty1 said: prince has only done 4 good albums since 90. prince has tons of filler and wasted albums, during the 90's. nobody cares overall about his 90's era. PRINCE buit up his sound and image from 79 to 84. prince hasn't had any momentum since 1989. sorry
ur sorry 4 sounding like an outdated robot saying the same thing over and over in any thread u can latch on? okay apology accepted  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: violetblues said: Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! it's not about defending it's more of realizing that there's quality in all things if u stop trying 2 compare everything 2 then as opposed 2 now if u like one particular period of work than that's fine, but some constantly insist that EVERYTHING he's done sans purple rain or the revolution is crap which isn't true in the slightest Cool! Reminds me of my hot slutty girlfriends,.... their boyfriends are always getting their ass kicked defending their honor! You want their phone #?...they’re HOT! | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: iloveannie said: Well I've enjoyed most all of his albums since his earlier days. There are tracks that don't quite appeal to me but to some I guess they're the bees knees.
But for me I haven't heard anything from his latter albums that has the same impact as say Lady Cab Driver. And the intro to Let's Go Crazy, I mean, come on what has he done that's sounded as fucking cool as that! I guess there are those of us that grew up with him during the 80s and those from the 90s. His material from those two decades is very different and really can't be compared. This decade hasn't been great for him so far. But at least he's still releasing stuff and playing live. Dublin not included. C**t. 3 words ....DAYS ....OF ...WILD  Right On! |
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L4OATheOriginal said: violetblues said: Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! it's not about defending it's more of realizing that there's quality in all things if u stop trying 2 compare everything 2 then as opposed 2 now if u like one particular period of work than that's fine, but some constantly insist that EVERYTHING he's done sans purple rain or the revolution is crap which isn't true in the slightest AMEN!!!! |
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violetblues said: L4OATheOriginal said: it's not about defending it's more of realizing that there's quality in all things if u stop trying 2 compare everything 2 then as opposed 2 now if u like one particular period of work than that's fine, but some constantly insist that EVERYTHING he's done sans purple rain or the revolution is crap which isn't true in the slightest Cool! Reminds me of my hot slutty girlfriends,.... their boyfriends are always getting their ass kicked defending their honor! You want their phone #?...they’re HOT! no thanks..i'd rather listen 2 the everlasting now man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplesweat said: And what "hit" was that? Oh, that's right, Let's Go Crazy. Still... no the hit at the time in 1994 was the most beautiful girl in the world So why didn't he sing that? | |
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Astasheiks said: L4OATheOriginal said: 3 words ....DAYS ....OF ...WILD Right On! There must be another version I have yet to hear. I think I'd rather listen to The Fratellis than Days of Wild. | |
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purplesweat said: LittleNicci said: Wow I think you are well out of order. To make such bold statements about something I am sure you cannot know. " a mind clogged with dope" thats a slanderlous statment and what evidence do you have to back this up? such a negative comment is saddening. I can understand you may not think Prince is in his prime but to cast such aspersions I find truly saddening. Go away and cleanse yourself. SO, lemme get this straight, you can criticize someone's opinion and order them to "cleanse themselves" of..free speech. But THEY can't critisize someone's horrible career choices because apparently they don't know HIM well enough? Speak for yourself! You don't know 1800 just as much as 1800 doesn't know Prince. Although at least Prince's actions have been in PUBLIC to say the least. I have no problem with free speach when people are voicing an opinion on music - I considered that they should cleanse themselves for making nasty statements about the state of P's marriages - something which is none of our business and should not be discussed, and for implying that P is a drug taker - no evidence on these matters at all so hardly a good basis for an opinion. | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: no the hit at the time in 1994 was the most beautiful girl in the world So why didn't he sing that? because he never appeared on the 1994 grammys man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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iloveannie said: Astasheiks said: Right On! There must be another version I have yet to hear. I think I'd rather listen to The Fratellis than Days of Wild. i suggest searching out other versions than the one u have then man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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As i've said in another thread a perfect (non Timbaland) example for one of many possible ways how Prince could update his sound/production is J*Davey.They sound electronica without being plastic, and while there are many non-electonica alternatives it's a sound that could fit Prince very well.It's also a nice example for music in order to be great music it doesn't always has to be "real music with real instruments"..
Here's their myspace, btw: http://www.myspace.com/jdavey And here's a youtube example of what i think could be an "updated" Prince sound/production: http://www.youtube.com/wa...36v6jOZrmo . | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: Graycap23 said: Aren't u the SAME people who claimed Prince's career was over 10 plus years ago?
it was till beyonce saved him! That is truly silly...Beyonce has a beautiful singing voice...but a vocalist...cannot save an established musician...And that Purple Rain, duet was for the general public...A Prince fan doesn't care who he is singing with... Prince can sing with anyone he's already sang with...anyone he will sing with...sing with muppets or sing with cartoons...That other person is going to be number two to a Prince fan. No disrespect to anyone...I Love most singers and musicians for at least one song. And I would go to anyone's concerts, whether I liked most of their work or not....Prince is always above water to the people that he's playing for anyway.  "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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I cant speak for Prince, but hes probably just not interested in the stuff thats mainstream, now, or mostly over the last 30 years. Hes toyed w/ some trends but his original formula is sound. Radio has been unbearable for years. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplesweat said: So why didn't he sing that? because he never appeared on the 1994 grammys So what the hell is your point? According to you, he had a hit which came out years before his 03 performance at the Grammys but didn't sing it in 03 because...he didn't appear at the 94 grammies? Eh? I don't think people would automatically forget that 1994 hit, so why not sing that instead of something over TWENTY years old? And using the hottest pop star at the time to draw even more "media" attention to himself instead of just writing some goddamn solid music these days! He can complain all he wants about "real music from real musicians" but he ain't making any worth listening to today. I have no problem with free speach when people are voicing an opinion on music - I considered that they should cleanse themselves for making nasty statements about the state of P's marriages - something which is none of our business and should not be discussed, and for implying that P is a drug taker - no evidence on these matters at all so hardly a good basis for an opinion.
Prince gets what he gives. If he wants to treat fans like some sort of enemy, he can fucking well be treated back accordingly. It's all about karma. His marriages failed miserably - that's a fact. Why are you getting riled up about facts? As for drug use, well, really, have you HEARD The Black Album? | |
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purplesweat said:[quote] L4OATheOriginal said: So what the hell is your point? According to you, he had a hit which came out years before his 03 performance at the Grammys but didn't sing it in 03 because...he didn't appear at the 94 grammies? Eh? I don't think people would automatically forget that 1994 hit, so why not sing that instead of something over TWENTY years old? And using the hottest pop star at the time to draw even more "media" attention to himself instead of just writing some goddamn solid music these days! He can complain all he wants about "real music from real musicians" but he ain't making any worth listening to today. my point is, we were talking about the 1994 grammy's and NOT the 2004 grammy's in our conversation  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: my point is, we were talking about the 1994 grammy's and NOT the 2004 grammy's in our conversation Uh...no...: SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh
The question was asking would Prince, still the 1994 image of him in everyone's heads, have still been asked to open the Grammys with a 10 year old song that while it was big, was no cultural icon like the tracks from Purple Rain? The answer is without a doubt a resounding NO. He needed a hot woman with a voice and attitude to match him and who also happened to have the biggest hit around at the time (but of course only got to perform one second of it) in order to make people think he's relevant again because "HEY! THAT'S BEYONCE! AND PRINCE! I LIKE THESE SONGS! WOO!". He has yet to live up to the hype that pairing created. | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: my point is, we were talking about the 1994 grammy's and NOT the 2004 grammy's in our conversation Uh...no...: SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh
The question was asking would Prince, still the 1994 image of him in everyone's heads, have still been asked to open the Grammys with a 10 year old song that while it was big, was no cultural icon like the tracks from Purple Rain? The answer is without a doubt a resounding NO. He needed a hot woman with a voice and attitude to match him and who also happened to have the biggest hit around at the time (but of course only got to perform one second of it) in order to make people think he's relevant again because "HEY! THAT'S BEYONCE! AND PRINCE! I LIKE THESE SONGS! WOO!". He has yet to live up to the hype that pairing created. step away from the crack pipe 4 just a moment will ya? if u knew anything about who prince was back in 1994, the answer would have been a resounding NO about doing purple rain at the grammy's cause PRINCE WAS DEAD. look at his per4mance on the american music awards in the following year. did u c him at all when all the "prince" songs were being played? NO. he didn't show up until billy jack bitch. so y would he do purple rain at the grammy's whether being asked 2 or not? furthermore, according 2 prince, he was constantly being asked 2 per4m on the grammy's but he always turned them down. the only reason he did it on the 2004 grammy's was tying in 2 the anniversary of purple rain and he didn't need no non vocalist singer like beyitcha 2 "resurrect" his career. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: purplesweat said: The question was asking would Prince, still the 1994 image of him in everyone's heads, have still been asked to open the Grammys with a 10 year old song that while it was big, was no cultural icon like the tracks from Purple Rain? The answer is without a doubt a resounding NO. He needed a hot woman with a voice and attitude to match him and who also happened to have the biggest hit around at the time (but of course only got to perform one second of it) in order to make people think he's relevant again because "HEY! THAT'S BEYONCE! AND PRINCE! I LIKE THESE SONGS! WOO!". He has yet to live up to the hype that pairing created. step away from the crack pipe 4 just a moment will ya? if u knew anything about who prince was back in 1994, the answer would have been a resounding NO about doing purple rain at the grammy's cause PRINCE WAS DEAD. look at his per4mance on the american music awards in the following year. did u c him at all when all the "prince" songs were being played? NO. he didn't show up until billy jack bitch. so y would he do purple rain at the grammy's whether being asked 2 or not? furthermore, according 2 prince, he was constantly being asked 2 per4m on the grammy's but he always turned them down. the only reason he did it on the 2004 grammy's was tying in 2 the anniversary of purple rain and he didn't need no non vocalist singer like beyitcha 2 "resurrect" his career. 
So you're saying he'll only perform his biggest hits when it benefits him? Gee, so much for being a "real" musician. And don't tell me Beyonce was there for no reason. If he didn't NEED her there, why WAS she there? | |
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purplesweat said: If he didn't NEED her there, why WAS she there? Because someone thought it would be a good idea to put them together!!! Just like the next year when Madonna and The Gorillaz were put together. Or when Jay-Z & Linkin Park performed with Paul McCartney Or when Beyonce performed with Tina Turner this year. Or U2 & Mary J. Blige Since that performance, they've put pairing more established musicians with younger ones!!! It's not like Beyonce was holding his hand, helping him remember lyrics to his own songs!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: my point is, we were talking about the 1994 grammy's and NOT the 2004 grammy's in our conversation Uh...no...: SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh
The question was asking would Prince, still the 1994 image of him in everyone's heads, have still been asked to open the Grammys with a 10 year old song that while it was big, was no cultural icon like the tracks from Purple Rain? The answer is without a doubt a resounding NO. He needed a hot woman with a voice and attitude to match him and who also happened to have the biggest hit around at the time (but of course only got to perform one second of it) in order to make people think he's relevant again because "HEY! THAT'S BEYONCE! AND PRINCE! I LIKE THESE SONGS! WOO!". He has yet to live up to the hype that pairing created. I am big on this very subject for one reason..It's about ratings...and the people that will tune in...Now...The producers know....that if Beyonce sung alone....everyone that is a Beyonce fan...is gonna tune in....And Everybody, that is already a Prince fan...is gonna tune in....The pair only matters at the time someone is ahead in the limelight...If Prince would not have been on the Grammy's, I wouldn't have watched them. If the Grammy's advertised, that Prince was gonna do, a duet with, the World's worst singer in the world..I would have watched the Grammy's...The question is...how many Prince fans, watched the show? How many people would watch the show anyway...and how many people watched the show only for Beyonce? Or...Were they irrelevant? Or, did the fact they were singing together boost ratings? All I know...is that they had one viewer...me...that wouldn't have watched them at all if Prince wasn't on that year....because, I was extremely busy....and I tuned in, at 9:00 and missed them...caught the rerun later. I had no idea, they would go on right away...And the same with the other show's...When Prince isn't on...I rarely care...I'd rather read poetry, or and anatomy book... "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Paris9748430 said: purplesweat said: If he didn't NEED her there, why WAS she there? Because someone thought it would be a good idea to put them together!!! Just like the next year when Madonna and The Gorillaz were put together. Or when Jay-Z & Linkin Park performed with Paul McCartney Or when Beyonce performed with Tina Turner this year. Or U2 & Mary J. Blige Since that performance, they've put pairing more established musicians with younger ones!!! Yes, sweetie, we can see that. My question was WHY? I already KNOW why. Because these so called "established" artists can't seem to get a good solid HIT going so they rely on their younger, more relevant famous fans to bring 'em back into the spotlight. Why else would The Time friggin' perform with Rihanna? Because who under the age of 30 is gonna watch The Time these days? It's not like Beyonce was holding his hand, helping him remember lyrics to his own songs!!!
Lol, no, she just upstaged him during his own songs. She musta been pissed she couldn't sing her own damn song. | |
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Well yeah! Prince's reign is over! I think Prince is an old fart and he needs to get with Timbaland or Neptunes and get some shit a poppin'  ! After hearing Eoritc City and Pussy Control in da club so many times, that shit gets old and boring real quick.I wanna b ur fantasy and maybe u could be mine! | |
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purplesweat said: Lol, no, she just upstaged him during his own songs. She musta been pissed she couldn't sing her own damn song. If you think she upstaged him then you seriously need your head examined!!! Either that, or you need to watch that shit again!!! I'll lend you my tape!!! She sang a half a verse of Purple Rain, and maybe 2 lines of Baby I'm a Star!!! She ain't upstaging NOBODY, let alone Prince singing half a verse and 2 lines!!! I have no idea what the obesssion people have with trying to bury Prince's career and shit on his legacy!!! Like he's some 1 hit wonder, or someone who was only famous during a certain period of time!!! He'll be as relevant as he wants to be!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: purplesweat said: Lol, no, she just upstaged him during his own songs. She musta been pissed she couldn't sing her own damn song. If you think she upstaged him then you seriously need your head examined!!! Either that, or you need to watch that shit again!!! I'll lend you my tape!!! She sang a half a verse of Purple Rain, and maybe 2 lines of Baby I'm a Star!!! She ain't upstaging NOBODY, let alone Prince singing half a verse and 2 lines!!! I have no idea what the obesssion people have with trying to bury Prince's career and shit on his legacy!!! Like he's some 1 hit wonder, or someone who was only famous during a certain period of time!!! He'll be as relevant as he wants to be!!! Just letting you know, you didn't use enough exclamation marks. You don't seem mentally unstable enough when you use only three. Try ten next time for each sentence end. Anyway, no one remembers anything good about Prince in that performance, because it was the same old crap. Beyonce brought some ENERGY to the table. And with all the youtube deleting, fansite suing, tribute album destroying, concert cancelling he does....WE'RE the ones trying to bury his legacy? Wake up. [Edited 7/12/08 0:25am] | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: Flowerz said: .. i'll take a plate of that too, please .. w/ some  naw put that back on the skillet and COOK IT!!!  | |
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No he's not past his prime as evidenced by new fans like myself and others here at the Org and on other sites.
Did you read the NY Daily News article posted this evening indiating that Planet Earth hit No. 3 on the Billboard 200?  | |
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purplesweat said: Anyway, no one remembers anything good about Prince in that performance, because it was the same old crap. Beyonce brought some ENERGY to the table. And with all the youtube deleting, fansite suing, tribute album destroying, concert cancelling he does....WE'RE the ones trying to bury his legacy? Wake up. [Edited 7/12/08 0:25am] When Prince performed at the Grammy's it had been years since he was in the mainstream public eye. So the average person watching it didn't know they were getting "the same old crap". Yeah, those were old songs, but a majority of the people watching hadn't heard him perform those songs in a long time. Beyonce didn't bring anything extra to the table at all!!! If he would've performed with Beyonce, Ashanti, Brandy, or Monica he would've gotten the same reaction. Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! Don't give me all this crap about suing people, 'cause the average music listener doesn't care about that. That tribute album came out, so that point is moot. If people don't become Prince fans 'cause they can't find a few videos on a website, then to hell with them. He has made 30 years worth of music, and Youtube isn't the only thing! Musicians cancel concerts all the time. Justin Timberlake cancelled a concert 'cause he was hung over! It happens. During the Musicology Tour, he did a show here in Chicago that I went to. The next night he postponed the next night's show 'cause he had strained his vocal chords screaming. That night he cancelled the rest of the shows in the city 'cause of what happened to John Blackwell's daughter. People at least got a week notice instead of cancelling the day of the show. If anyone needs to wake up, it's you. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: purplesweat said: Anyway, no one remembers anything good about Prince in that performance, because it was the same old crap. Beyonce brought some ENERGY to the table. And with all the youtube deleting, fansite suing, tribute album destroying, concert cancelling he does....WE'RE the ones trying to bury his legacy? Wake up. [Edited 7/12/08 0:25am] When Prince performed at the Grammy's it had been years since he was in the mainstream public eye. So the average person watching it didn't know they were getting "the same old crap". Yeah, those were old songs, but a majority of the people watching hadn't heard him perform those songs in a long time. Beyonce didn't bring anything extra to the table at all!!! If he would've performed with Beyonce, Ashanti, Brandy, or Monica he would've gotten the same reaction.Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! Don't give me all this crap about suing people, 'cause the average music listener doesn't care about that. That tribute album came out, so that point is moot. If people don't become Prince fans 'cause they can't find a few videos on a website, then to hell with them. He has made 30 years worth of music, and Youtube isn't the only thing! Musicians cancel concerts all the time. Justin Timberlake cancelled a concert 'cause he was hung over! It happens. During the Musicology Tour, he did a show here in Chicago that I went to. The next night he postponed the next night's show 'cause he had strained his vocal chords screaming. That night he cancelled the rest of the shows in the city 'cause of what happened to John Blackwell's daughter. People at least got a week notice instead of cancelling the day of the show. If anyone needs to wake up, it's you. I like the way you talk and al but umm..NO! Wait, let me rephrase that...HELL NAW!!! *cough* okay surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Paris9748430 said: When Prince performed at the Grammy's it had been years since he was in the mainstream public eye. So the average person watching it didn't know they were getting "the same old crap". Yeah, those were old songs, but a majority of the people watching hadn't heard him perform those songs in a long time. So? What does that have to do with anything? Beyonce didn't bring anything extra to the table at all!!!
Except stealing the show. If he would've performed with Beyonce, Ashanti, Brandy, or Monica he would've gotten the same reaction.
Before the show started people on the red carpet were buzzing about what Prince was gonna do. They had heard he was gonna open the show, but they didn't know with who, and folks were rushing to their seats!!! Yeah and when it started they thought "What the fuck? 20 year old songs? Oh, well, at least Beyonce's gonna give me something to look at. Hey, she can sing and dance her heart out too. Nice". Don't give me all this crap about suing people, 'cause the average music listener doesn't care about that.
Actually, that's one of the only things the average music listener knows about him. Since he started suing, everytime i've mentioned him on either the net or in real life, the reply is "He sues his fans, what an idiot." And why wouldn't they think that way? He's not releasing anything worth listening to AND the only headlines he gets is for suing people for no good reason. That tribute album came out, so that point is moot.
But he just HAD to ruin it for them, didn't he? And get a headline in there. If people don't become Prince fans 'cause they can't find a few videos on a website, then to hell with them. He has made 30 years worth of music, and Youtube isn't the only thing! It's the main thing, as is Myspace. That's where people GO nowadays instead of record stores. That's the cold, hard truth. His music is TOO HARD to find outside of the net. He's too proud to remaster and re-release his classics, so he should expect to fail once he bites/sues the hand that could feed him millions of fans. And believe me, people like what they hear of his old work and they'd be willing to give him another peak of fame. But who would want to when he treats us the way he does? Like a distraction or a fly that won't stop buzzing in his face. But he makes sure he bumps those tickets up to $3000 plus! Musicians cancel concerts all the time. Justin Timberlake cancelled a concert 'cause he was hung over! It happens. Was there any kind of explanation for cancelling Dublin? If anyone needs to wake up, it's you.
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