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Printableusamud said: EmancipationLover said: If you give me the choice to either listen to 1) Prince produced by Timbaland with his prototype beat version No. 485, feat. Justin Timberlake plus 3 guest rappers, and singing nonsense like "tick tack tick tack" over some shitty hookline sounding like my 1986 Casio keyboard or 2) the "stale and uninspired" Musicology, 3121 and Planet Earth I will vote for 2) anytime and any day, that's for sure!!! I so agree with you. I have no idea why Timbaland is considered so great. That crap is not real music! real music ? you think beethoven and mozart would consider prince real music? u guys are ..... [Edited 7/8/08 4:56am] | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: Graycap23 said: Aren't u the SAME people who claimed Prince's career was over 10 plus years ago?
it was till beyonce saved him!  just say  2 drugs please but thanks 4 the laughman, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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rusty1 said: LOVE4ONE ANOTHER THE ORINGINATOR... everything Prince does is great. Prince hardly had any fillers from his own works from 1979 to 88. the facts are the facts !! PRINCE has put out entire albums of crap since 1989. chaos and disorder, come, the vault, rave, 3121, planet earth, nps. Prince is still a great live performer who will always get cheered live the most for his 80s genious. I would rather here the deeper cuts such as lady cab driver, strange relationship, condition of the heart oVER ANY of his 90's material. I could listen to those classic albums without hitting the skip buttom at all. the 90s works were inconsistent overall. I'd rather blast 17days than listen to let it go. Prince's great works were kickass from the first beats to the arrangements overall.The begining of let's go crazy kills anything from his 90's era. Those opening keyboard riffs go right through you. According to love prince hasn't lost any of his edginess at all.
dear rusty, the 80's r calling u home ..cause u still r trying 2 make me agree with u on his output and it's not gonna happen. u like what u like and i will like what i like. we're never gonna c eye 2 eye on this issue so it's like beating a dead fish ..oh wait   man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: mirrorbestfriend said: it was till beyonce saved him! just say 2 drugs please but thanks 4 the laughMy chest hurts.....my goodness. Some of these folks are OFF the chain INSANE..... Beyonce saved Prince. From what? Jay-Z's sloppy seconds. | |
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Graycap23 said: L4OATheOriginal said: just say 2 drugs please but thanks 4 the laughMy chest hurts.....my goodness. Some of these folks are OFF the chain INSANE..... Beyonce saved Prince. From what? Jay-Z's sloppy seconds. word up ..that per4mance was horrendous and he didn't need her at all, sort of like how the time didn't need rihanna  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Graycap23 said: U guys just don't get IT.
Prince's light comes from within. Do u think he cares if u think he is past his prime or not? Prince is a lot like Bruce Lee was. Forever changing, moving, and experimenting with the next thing on his mind. He can't be boxed in or labeled as a lot of people try and do here on the org every other hour. Either accept him as he is.....or HE moves on. Right On. Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
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L4OATheOriginal said: Graycap23 said: My chest hurts.....my goodness. Some of these folks are OFF the chain INSANE..... Beyonce saved Prince. From what? Jay-Z's sloppy seconds. word up ..that per4mance was horrendous and he didn't need her at all, sort of like how the time didn't need rihanna SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: L4OATheOriginal said: word up ..that per4mance was horrendous and he didn't need her at all, sort of like how the time didn't need rihanna SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh U have used your quota on using Ms. Z and Prince in the same sentence. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: L4OATheOriginal said: word up ..that per4mance was horrendous and he didn't need her at all, sort of like how the time didn't need rihanna SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh the answer would have been a resounding YES!!! cause contrary 2 what u may think, prince did have a hit out when the grammy's would have been broadcasted man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Prince does not need Beyonce to have a lead on any reward show. The Grammys did it because is was cool and interesting. She and Prince both had fun on stage. It wasn't about who needs who. It's about entertaining the people on tv and in the building.The proformance got alot of praise. Why? Because of the both of them. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: mirrorbestfriend said: SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh the answer would have been a resounding YES!!! cause contrary 2 what u may think, prince did have a hit out when the grammy's would have been broadcasted u dreamin prince hasnt had a hit since the most beautiful girl in the world | |
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Well I've enjoyed most all of his albums since his earlier days. There are tracks that don't quite appeal to me but to some I guess they're the bees knees.
But for me I haven't heard anything from his latter albums that has the same impact as say Lady Cab Driver. And the intro to Let's Go Crazy, I mean, come on what has he done that's sounded as fucking cool as that! I guess there are those of us that grew up with him during the 80s and those from the 90s. His material from those two decades is very different and really can't be compared. This decade hasn't been great for him so far. But at least he's still releasing stuff and playing live. Dublin not included. C**t. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! Your friends are 100000% correct. Prince is just a corny imitation of himself today and the only person who doesn't know it is him. Sad, but true. Live though, for some reason, he's still incredible. Go figure. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! Stale and Uninspired - are you for real ? he may not be top of the charts right now but never NEVER underestimate him, he does what he wants and no one says you have to like it. But don't underestimate him if he wanted to he could have a chart hit any time he liked, he choses not to because he wants to make the music he wants to make. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: mirrorbestfriend said: SO ASK yourself if beyonce didnt perform with do u actually think 1994 prince would have been asked to lead off the grammys? yall make me laugh the answer would have been a resounding YES!!! cause contrary 2 what u may think, prince did have a hit out when the grammy's would have been broadcasted And what "hit" was that? Oh, that's right, Let's Go Crazy. Still... | |
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thepope2the9s said: mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! I love the word !!! well i just listened to somewhere here on earth, 3121, the word, ....so I'd say Hell NO! | |
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1800TRUFUNK said: Yes. Definitely past his prime. Its been that way since N.E.W.S. But for some reason he felt he had to go back out there and get 'accolades' - which have all been entirely pointless, because they dont mean anything.
I mean hey, if he wants to keep moving further away from all the things that really matter, thats fine, but he doesnt seem to have an idea of what they are. The entertainment industry has had him locked in a cage of stunted emotional growth for 30 years. Somebody help a brother out and tell him, that these days, most people see straight through the whole 'hollywood' shebang, except for hardcore fans and people who are stuck in that world of thinking. Do you know how many times this guy has refused to listen to his better nature all because of his ego? Its a mental prison I wouldnt wish on anyone. I'm sure he'll continue to make great music, at the expense of other peoples time and emotions, and rake in millions without a second thought as to the fact that it might be blood money, and I'm equally as sure that he will continue to live in denial about his failed marriages and somewhat dull sounding music. For those interested; PLanet Earth is a bit dull to the ears, because thats the result of a mind clogged with dope. Thats why his audience didnt 'buy it', and thats also why he lashed out with lawyers, threatening 3 sites of people, for tapping into the fact that something wasnt right. Its what he does, rather than fix the problems in his own backyard, he sics lawyers onto people, cuz he can, from his lofty height. One of the greatest musicians this world will ever know, our Mozart, was supposed to evolve in this life time, beyond his ego. I'm still waiting. Wow I think you are well out of order. To make such bold statements about something I am sure you cannot know. " a mind clogged with dope" thats a slanderlous statment and what evidence do you have to back this up? such a negative comment is saddening. I can understand you may not think Prince is in his prime but to cast such aspersions I find truly saddening. Go away and cleanse yourself. | |
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LittleNicci said: Wow I think you are well out of order. To make such bold statements about something I am sure you cannot know. " a mind clogged with dope" thats a slanderlous statment and what evidence do you have to back this up? such a negative comment is saddening. I can understand you may not think Prince is in his prime but to cast such aspersions I find truly saddening. Go away and cleanse yourself. SO, lemme get this straight, you can criticize someone's opinion and order them to "cleanse themselves" of..free speech. But THEY can't critisize someone's horrible career choices because apparently they don't know HIM well enough? Speak for yourself! You don't know 1800 just as much as 1800 doesn't know Prince. Although at least Prince's actions have been in PUBLIC to say the least. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: L4OATheOriginal said: the answer would have been a resounding YES!!! cause contrary 2 what u may think, prince did have a hit out when the grammy's would have been broadcasted u dreamin prince hasnt had a hit since the most beautiful girl in the world and when do u think the most beautiful girl in the world was released?  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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iloveannie said: Well I've enjoyed most all of his albums since his earlier days. There are tracks that don't quite appeal to me but to some I guess they're the bees knees.
But for me I haven't heard anything from his latter albums that has the same impact as say Lady Cab Driver. And the intro to Let's Go Crazy, I mean, come on what has he done that's sounded as fucking cool as that! I guess there are those of us that grew up with him during the 80s and those from the 90s. His material from those two decades is very different and really can't be compared. This decade hasn't been great for him so far. But at least he's still releasing stuff and playing live. Dublin not included. C**t. 3 words ....DAYS ....OF ...WILD  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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purplesweat said: L4OATheOriginal said: the answer would have been a resounding YES!!! cause contrary 2 what u may think, prince did have a hit out when the grammy's would have been broadcasted And what "hit" was that? Oh, that's right, Let's Go Crazy. Still... no the hit at the time in 1994 was the most beautiful girl in the world man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! I would suggest that they have never heard his stuff SINCE the 80s boy why do people always say that? because they are uninformed thats why. Prince is not stale. He doesnt conform and many peeps cant handle that. they want everyone in a box and their music too. Take NEWS for example, that is hardly stale for a major artist to go out on a limb and produce an instrumental album like that. Plus its fantastic. I dont think its fair to call any musician stale. You cant be artistic and talented one minute and not the next. Why would Prince need producers. Im a designer I dont need people telling me how to design or put my ideas across and i think if he is surrounded by artistic people he will always be inspired by what other people do. The fact that he has to pander to the uninformed speaks volumes about the lack of musical knowledge in the world. Thats why he plays hits as you lot call them at promo events. He plays what average people know. At 50 he is in his prime. His accumulated experience results in out of this world live performances. I think he just doesnt really do the whole record single thing anymore and why should he? The record industry is dying and he knows it, he rode it while he could. now its time for music distribution and enjoyment to evolve - which it is Its the industry which has become stale and has stagnated musicians for the past 50 odd years with their producers and forcing artists to conform in order to create sales. Prince has nothing to prove. [Edited 7/9/08 8:45am] walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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syble said: mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! I would suggest that they have never heard his stuff SINCE the 80s boy why do people always say that? because they are uninformed thats why. Prince is not stale. He doesnt conform and many peeps cant handle that. they want everyone in a box and their music too. Take NEWS for example, that is hardly stale for a major artist to go out on a limb and produce an instrumental album like that. Plus its fantastic. I dont think its fair to call any musician stale. You cant be artistic and talented one minute and not the next. Why would Prince need producers. Im a designer I dont need people telling me how to design or put my ideas across and i think if he is surrounded by artistic people he will always be inspired by what other people do. The fact that he has to pander to the uninformed speaks volumes about the lack of musical knowledge in the world. Thats why he plays hits as you lot call them at promo events. He plays what average people know. At 50 he is in his prime. His accumulated experience results in out of this world live performances. I think he just doesnt really do the whole record single thing anymore and why should he? surely as a designer you would accept that if you repeated the same designs every year using the same formulae then you leave yourself wide open to crticism regardless of how happy you are within?. | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: usamud said: I so agree with you. I have no idea why Timbaland is considered so great. That crap is not real music! real music ? you think beethoven and mozart would consider prince real music? u guys are ..... [Edited 7/8/08 4:56am] yes for sure - if recording was around then im sure they would have added lyrics too. Many of the 'great' composers wrote hymns (their popular msic for the masses) The only vehicle they had was to pen it down and play live for people. How can you say that anyway - how naive you are about music and its history - you hold mozart up as an all time great do you? something modern musicians can only aspire too? the world has stopped since then? classical music isnt better than popular music its just different. I think Mozart would be astounded at the complexity of Princes music and the variety of instruments he plays - 26 by age 13? the ironic thing s that what call classical was in fact pop of its time. of course Prince is real music you eejit! as for Beyonce saving his career - im laughing at you! Beyonce star of gold member! oh yeeaaahhh she Saved his career! Beyonce has a unique voice and that is it. She needs people like prince who actually have musical talent to write her music and produce it for her. I cant get over that one - saved his career ---- walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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mirrorbestfriend said: I was recently talking to a group of musicians at the Red Cat jazz bar in Houston and the subject of Prince came up..they say prince is a great live musician but his inability to work with a producer and open his mind to NEW sounds have made his music stale and uninspired.
basically they all agreed we have seen the best of prince in the 80's.....what we have now is just a shell of the blazing talent we saw 20 years ago? Do u agree?..... remember we were discussing studio work not live! Prince has always been an innovator. He'll never be past his Prime. | |
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Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! | |
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violetblues said: Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! Lol.....actually Prince IMHO is one of the few artist that does not require defending on any level. His work speaks volumes 4 itself. | |
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Graycap23 said: violetblues said: Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! Lol.....actually Prince IMHO is one of the few artist that does not require defending on any level. His work speaks volumes 4 itself. yeah that rave album tells it all...dont talk about newpower soul! | |
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violetblues said: Has anybody mentioned about how Beyonce saved him!, she's great, that was so lucky for us!
L4OATheOriginal and graycap, i admire how you defend 90's prince, it's a daunting unappreciated chore i bet, good job! it's not about defending it's more of realizing that there's quality in all things if u stop trying 2 compare everything 2 then as opposed 2 now if u like one particular period of work than that's fine, but some constantly insist that EVERYTHING he's done sans purple rain or the revolution is crap which isn't true in the slightest man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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