rusty1 said:

90's stuff was maybe worse than 78-80

No I do not agree...I Love Prince's music and His bands collaborations...but let's face the whole hearted truth...Prince and a acoustic guitar alone...would sell millions of copies.

NOPE i do not agree

babooshleeky said:

Agreed that I do not agree.

I don't agree.

These kind of topics seem to serve a need in some people to just be meanspirited and not really to discuss a topic. Ok, lets say for arguments sake that he is past his prime, what does it matter? He has made his mark in american music which will outlive everyone, including prince. It's like people nitpicking on Elvis, the man did enough, to expect more or to pressupose to expect more is selfish of us.

No not at all, Prince' smusic has just matured and its become an acquired taste. Prince's 70's output was rookie material, he was finding his feet, and the 80 to 82 stuff saw songwriting improve, but a lot of it was shock tactics, (His songs then were most about self gratification and putting across his manifesto. But Prince the crowd pleaser took over in the mid 80s, which got him the fairweather fans and mass attention, but the late 80s saw him as the avant garde experimentlist. It wa sthen the lyrics took on more maturity, there was more spiritual input and love rather than lust (not to say the sexy ass shakibg disappeared, theres a rule at least 1 floor filler per album and one lascivious sex ballad).
What I am saying is Prince now keeps his fans happy rather than the masses. Just because he ain't top40 that does not make him stale, hes too much an original to fit the mould of anyone. Prince's music and creativity is just as strong now as its ever been. Like Prince said about Purple Rain (People only digging it because its a hit). His latest music has been shaved of the self indulgent overproducing and overladen projects of the 1989-1998 period and now sounds more urgent and direct than ever before, I mean you listen to Black Sweat and try to tell me that sounds STALE

People underestimating Prince's abitliies is what has kept him around and on top for so long, trust me. It ain't ova
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Paris9748430 said:

Name one musician, who has put out as much music as Prince has and still been able to maintain a high level of quality.

The quality of Dylan's material wained in the 70's and 80's
Stevie's music wasn't as great in the 80's as it was in the 70's
Neil Young's music was shit on for about 20 years starting in the early 80's


Prince isn't the only artist who is "past his prime". The quality of every musician's music falls off when they get older.

Michael Jordan can't dunk from the free throw line anymore, but that doesn't mean he's not the best to ever play the game!!![/quote]

Um, that wasn't the point of the original post. Whether or not Prince is prolific, his output of the last several years is nowhere near as engaging as his output during his artistic & creative heights of the 1980s.

Prince's music used to challenge listeners. [Flame Snipped - June7]

viewaskew said:

And you often come off as a jerk but still you say the same stuff but every now and again you say something that sounds like you used to dig Prince's music but that is only sometimes.

mirrorbestfriend said:

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No on all P CD's there is at least one cut that kills whatever is being played on the radio today. I see a lot of people ripping off what P did in the 80 and very few people doing anything new.

tane1976 said:

black sweat was prince tryin to sound like the neptunes! he failed horribly!

Idcxc!!!! L 4ONEANOTHER IDCXC IS RIGHT ON POINT!!!!!

IDCXC,,, LOVE 4ONEANOTHER, tells it like it is!

mirrorbestfriend said:

Please point me 2 a Neptune track in that vein.....

rusty1 said:

Well said ...and I agree

I totally do not agree. Prince doesn't sound stale at all, but I agree his music isn't meant to appeal to the masses. His music has a depth (SHOE,The Dance, Love) and an originality (PFunk, Chelsea Rogers, Reflection) that few of todays artist can claim. I know it is a small group of us that feel that he has matured beatifully and so has his music. For everyone else he's "past his prime" "he's gay" "he's irrelevant" whatever.

Can't wait to hear '21 Nights'

Graycap23 said:

Grindin by the clipse

mirrorbestfriend said:

That track is WACK.

mirrorbestfriend said:

Are you serious?

purplecam said:

Maybe I need 2 take another listen but from what I remember? Yes, I'm serious.
I'll take another listen as most of their material puts me 2 sleep.

purplecam said:

There is no MUSIC on the whole damn track. It's just a drum track.

Graycap23 said:

I'm just wondering how Grindin' sounds like Black Sweat, other than the minimalistic vibe? I don't get it.

purplecam said:

I don't get it either.
No where close 2 Black Sweat on ANY level.

Graycap23 said:

Not at all.

I was fooling myself for ages pretendin i liked all the musicology type stuff (rehashed again with turn me loose) would never admit that it was boring even though it didnt get me excited. Was bit worried that he was heading to be past it. Then came black sweat and he brought it right baack. So he can still do it. 3121 album proved that.

Graycap23 said:

the same with black sweat....also listen to la la la by jay z the neptunes produced.....prince stole that one too for the high pitched wine sound

mirrorbestfriend said:

U are a funny cat.

viewaskew said:

Sadly, I agree...
Album wise he is well past his prime
Welcome to the Hef Years...