I think it's a great listen. Stick it on in the background and let it run.
There are so many tracks on it, you find yourself going.."thats awful, really really crap" then 2 tracks later "thats fantastic, great alternate version" And I like the way they have separated the 5 discs into different styles. Acoustic, rock, dance etc I recommend! "My God it's full of Stars"
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toots said: Paris9748430 said: There's a huge difference between Prince covering a single Radiohead song, and someone doing 5 full length CDs covering his music!!! Not really if you really stop and think about it Prince covers other artists songs as well,thus a song is covered He did before as I recall He's just being really overprotective of his music right now, and really who can blame him??? This is his legacy, his life's work, and how he makes a living!!! His music is really all he has!!! No sorry you got that wrong he wants OUT of the business( he said this before) it maybe his legacy life work but if he wants out that bad he should leave and not be in the public eye making lawsuits out the ass
[Edited 6/29/08 13:49pm] All good points, toots, but there is little point arguing with some of these zealots. Prince has covered a number of songs by other artists & has even committed some to record. Yet for him, it's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do." He's a hypocrite. Music is all Prince has because he treats people like shit. Whether with actual lawsuits or the threat, it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most people, except for those of you who are used to tasting the stank of his ass from kissing it so often. | |
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Prince hates people from Norway. He is preventing them from earning a living. The entire country should sue him. | |
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viewaskew said: Prince hates people from Norway. He is preventing them from earning a living. The entire country should sue him.
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viewaskew said: toots said: No sorry you got that wrong he wants OUT of the business( he said this before) it maybe his legacy life work but if he wants out that bad he should leave and not be in the public eye making lawsuits out the ass
[Edited 6/29/08 13:49pm] All good points, toots, but there is little point arguing with some of these zealots. Prince has covered a number of songs by other artists & has even committed some to record. Yet for him, it's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do." He's a hypocrite. Music is all Prince has because he treats people like shit. Whether with actual lawsuits or the threat, it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most people, except for those of you who are used to tasting the stank of his ass from kissing it so often. Thanks and I realize this view. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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Rorywan said: I think it's a great listen. Stick it on in the background and let it run.
There are so many tracks on it, you find yourself going.."thats awful, really really crap" then 2 tracks later "thats fantastic, great alternate version" And I like the way they have separated the 5 discs into different styles. Acoustic, rock, dance etc I recommend! Of course people are going to sing songs different then others Rorywan. Some may be great, some yeah may suck to be honest. but still great tunes If people dont liek the tribute album they can always pop in the original track instead to be honest. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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viewaskew said: toots said: No sorry you got that wrong he wants OUT of the business( he said this before) it maybe his legacy life work but if he wants out that bad he should leave and not be in the public eye making lawsuits out the ass
[Edited 6/29/08 13:49pm] All good points, toots, but there is little point arguing with some of these zealots. Prince has covered a number of songs by other artists & has even committed some to record. Yet for him, it's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do." He's a hypocrite. Music is all Prince has because he treats people like shit. Whether with actual lawsuits or the threat, it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most people, except for those of you who are used to tasting the stank of his ass from kissing it so often. I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have become upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. even i'm running out of reasons to defend all his actions, other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. [Edited 6/30/08 9:01am] | |
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wonder505 said: viewaskew said: All good points, toots, but there is little point arguing with some of these zealots. Prince has covered a number of songs by other artists & has even committed some to record. Yet for him, it's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do." He's a hypocrite. Music is all Prince has because he treats people like shit. Whether with actual lawsuits or the threat, it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most people, except for those of you who are used to tasting the stank of his ass from kissing it so often. I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. Obviously the only people who would/could/should get upset or angry are 1: the musicians, producers and distributors 2: the writer. It's pretty simple. It's not an anti-Norway vendetta (!!) and why would anyone else have a hissy fit? It's not like the CD police are going to turn up at the door and give you a cavity search. | |
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Could all this be something to do with the fact that the 4 letter words haven't been bleeped out? Therefore, the tribute album is acknowledging Ps use of profane language in the past, which he is now trying to distance himself from for religious and moral reasons.
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Barbara07 said: wonder505 said: I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. Obviously the only people who would/could/should get upset or angry are 1: the musicians, producers and distributors 2: the writer. It's pretty simple. It's not an anti-Norway vendetta (!!) and why would anyone else have a hissy fit? It's not like the CD police are going to turn up at the door and give you a cavity search. Some people are better and make shorter responces then me thanks Barbara. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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wonder505 said: viewaskew said: All good points, toots, but there is little point arguing with some of these zealots. Prince has covered a number of songs by other artists & has even committed some to record. Yet for him, it's always "Do as I say, don't do as I do." He's a hypocrite. Music is all Prince has because he treats people like shit. Whether with actual lawsuits or the threat, it leaves a bad taste in the mouths of most people, except for those of you who are used to tasting the stank of his ass from kissing it so often. I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have become upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. even i'm running out of reasons to defend all his actions, other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. [Edited 6/30/08 9:01am] [Edited 6/30/08 9:06am] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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Barbara07 said: wonder505 said: I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. Obviously the only people who would/could/should get upset or angry are 1: the musicians, producers and distributors 2: the writer. It's pretty simple. It's not an anti-Norway vendetta (!!) and why would anyone else have a hissy fit? It's not like the CD police are going to turn up at the door and give you a cavity search. you're definately right. just some people here are making it seem as if everyone is in an uproar and frankly i dont think so. if i were the musicians i would be upset though. i just wish i knew what Universal's claim is about. | |
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wonder505 said: Barbara07 said: Obviously the only people who would/could/should get upset or angry are 1: the musicians, producers and distributors 2: the writer. It's pretty simple. It's not an anti-Norway vendetta (!!) and why would anyone else have a hissy fit? It's not like the CD police are going to turn up at the door and give you a cavity search. you're definately right. just some people here are making it seem as if everyone is in an uproar and frankly i dont think so. if i were the musicians i would be upset though. i just wish i knew what Universal's claim is about. Universal isnt to blame here its Prince! It even says that on the 1st page of this thread From 1st page: have been slapped with a lawsuit by the short-tempered star [Edited 6/30/08 9:09am] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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toots said: wonder505 said: I don't see how Prince covering other people's songs is relevant here. He's covered people's songs and others have covered him, with no problem from him. Something went wrong here, but no one knows what it is. The people who are left with a bad taste in their mouths are those who have become upset with him from previous incidents, like a culmination of the cease and desists, and the whole Internet fiasco. even i'm running out of reasons to defend all his actions, other than that I don't see many people caring or getting upset over this tribute cd. [Edited 6/30/08 9:01am] [Edited 6/30/08 9:06am] you have you're right to your opinion. if it is your judgement that Prince is being biased against these musician that that is your judgement, its not mine. i think something went wrong and until I am proven wrong with facts then i will leave it at that. I still feel for the musicians who put in the work. | |
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toots said:[quote] wonder505 said: Universal isnt to blame here its Prince! It even says that on the 1st page of this thread From 1st page: have been slapped with a lawsuit by the short-tempered star
[Edited 6/30/08 9:09am] where does it say that I blame Universal? Can you highlight where I stated that? The person involved with the project that posted here stated being surprised by Universal's claim. My curiosity, if you would read my previous post, is what could possibly be their claim if the musicians did all what they were supposed to do. | |
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wonder505 said: Barbara07 said: Obviously the only people who would/could/should get upset or angry are 1: the musicians, producers and distributors 2: the writer. It's pretty simple. It's not an anti-Norway vendetta (!!) and why would anyone else have a hissy fit? It's not like the CD police are going to turn up at the door and give you a cavity search. you're definately right. just some people here are making it seem as if everyone is in an uproar and frankly i dont think so. if i were the musicians i would be upset though. i just wish i knew what Universal's claim is about. Highlighted just like you asked and how quickly you forgot, also really he cant touch that music even if its cover songs it IS LEGAL in that country and they did what they were supposed to do, they PAID for the fees for doing covers if you read the first post of this thread carefully.So he dont have a leg to standon in that legal factor. Prince sues AGAIN!!!!! My Way or Norway: Prince Sues to Obliterate Tribute Album By Eliot Van Buskirk June 25, 2008 | 3:35:36 Fifty artists who recorded Prince covers in honor of His Purpleness' 50th birthday June 7 have been slapped with a lawsuit by the short-tempered star. His lawyers now demand that all copies of the tribute be destroyed. Shockadelica had reached No. 8 on Norway's album charts and received several popular reviews by the Norwegian press. It's perfectly legal to record and sell cover songs of someone else's material, so long as you pay the compulsory licensing fee of about 10 cents per song. To sell their five-disc set of 81 Prince cover songs, they would have to remit around $8 per unit sold to Prince, under a compulsory mechanical license. Norway's C+C Records distributed 5,000 of the box sets starting earlier this month, plus digital versions, and claim that no one made any money from the project. As a result, they didn't think they owed Prince anything except maybe a free copy. C+C Records owner and Prince fan Christer Falck contacted the Purple One's people to try to send one to Prince, and that's when the trouble began, according to the Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet (re-reported in Daily Swarm), one of many publications to post positive reviews of the collection. For now, all 81 songs can be previewed free on C+C Records' website, and some are also available on MySpace in streamable medley form. When this giveaway first began, there were 5,000 copies of the compilation in circulation. Thanks to Prince's lawsuit and the publicity it will generate, we expect that number to balloon significantly in the coming weeks. [Edited 6/30/08 9:30am] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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toots said: wonder505 said: you're definately right. just some people here are making it seem as if everyone is in an uproar and frankly i dont think so. if i were the musicians i would be upset though. i just wish i knew what Universal's claim is about. Highlighted just like you asked and how quickly you forgot, also really he cant touch that music even if its cover songs it IS LEGAL in that country. [Edited 6/30/08 9:23am] okay, i know i missed my morning coffee but what you hightlighted does not state that I blame Universal. The person involved with the project who posted here stated he was surprised by Universal's claim, so I am questioning what the claim states. My statement has nothing to do with who's fault it is. All i want to know is what the claim says. if what they did was legal, then there is nothing anyone has to worry about. which goes back to my question, if what they did was completely legal, what in the world could be stated in Universal's claim? [Edited 6/30/08 9:35am] | |
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wonder505 said: toots said: Look at the bold , now go back to my posts where I said he is biased on certain people covering his songs, there is the answer!
[Edited 6/30/08 9:06am] you have you're right to your opinion. if it is your judgement that Prince is being biased against these musician that that is your judgement, its not mine. i think something went wrong and until I am proven wrong with facts then i will leave it at that. I still feel for the musicians who put in the work. Its not a opinion its a valid point! He is biased cause he didnt make a stink over when A.Keys did the cover of PR but he is making a stink NOW.Especially when it is legal over in another country to do covers of otehr artist songs(even when they dont make a profit on it). Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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wonder505 said: toots said: Highlighted just like you asked and how quickly you forgot, also really he cant touch that music even if its cover songs it IS LEGAL in that country. [Edited 6/30/08 9:23am] okay, i know i missed my morning coffee but what you hightlighted does not state that I blame Universal. The person involved with the project who posted here stated he was surprised by Universal's claim, so I am questioning what the claim states. My statement has nothing to do with who's fault it is. All i want to know is what the claim says. if what they did was legal, then there is nothing anyone has to be worried about. which goes back to my question, if what they did was legal, what in the world could be stated in Universal's claim. Where in this article are you getting Universal???? I dont see Universal's name anywhere in this article so takes me back to my quesition, What make you THINK Universal had anything to do with it when Prince was the one who slapped THEM with the lawsuit( he could be using a company that is different now).In a way you are putting the fault on Universal when they are not mentioned anywhere in this article.Highlight Universals name in that article for me cause I sure dont see it!The ONLY one I am seeing who is "slapping lawsuits" is Prince! [Edited 6/30/08 9:41am] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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toots said: wonder505 said: you're definately right. just some people here are making it seem as if everyone is in an uproar and frankly i dont think so. if i were the musicians i would be upset though. i just wish i knew what Universal's claim is about. It's perfectly legal to record and sell cover songs of someone else's material, so long as you pay the compulsory licensing fee of about 10 cents per song. To sell their five-disc set of 81 Prince cover songs, they would have to remit around $8 per unit sold to Prince, under a compulsory mechanical license. Norway's C+C Records distributed 5,000 of the box sets starting earlier this month, plus digital versions, and claim that no one made any money from the project. As a result, they didn't think they owed Prince anything except maybe a free copy. I feel terrible for the Norwegian artists, but it seems they didn't take care of the necessary things that are so important with any business venture. Are you missing something important here? (I have highlighted what I mean) This article says they haven't paid him anything because they made no profit... so how is the licensing legality taken care of then if nothing was paid? [Edited 6/30/08 9:41am] | |
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toots said: wonder505 said: you have you're right to your opinion. if it is your judgement that Prince is being biased against these musician that that is your judgement, its not mine. i think something went wrong and until I am proven wrong with facts then i will leave it at that. I still feel for the musicians who put in the work. Its not a opinion its a valid point! He is biased cause he didnt make a stink over when A.Keys did the cover of PR but he is making a stink NOW.Especially when it is legal over in another country to do covers of otehr artist songs(even when they dont make a profit on it). I'm sorry but I don't have to accept your statement as fact. Everyone here has a right to their own opinion, good and bad, I don't have to accept yours, only respect it. Until I know the facts behind Prince's problem/issue with the tribute, I'm leaving my judgement up in the air, but will only say, that I feel bad for the musicians because I think their efforts are sincere. | |
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toots said: wonder505 said: okay, i know i missed my morning coffee but what you hightlighted does not state that I blame Universal. The person involved with the project who posted here stated he was surprised by Universal's claim, so I am questioning what the claim states. My statement has nothing to do with who's fault it is. All i want to know is what the claim says. if what they did was legal, then there is nothing anyone has to be worried about. which goes back to my question, if what they did was legal, what in the world could be stated in Universal's claim. Where in this article are you getting Universal???? I dont see Universal's name anywhere in this article so takes me back to my quesition, What make you THINK Universal had anything to do with it when Prince was the one who slapped THEM with the lawsuit( he could be using a company that is different now).In a way you are putting the fault on Universal when they are not mentioned anywhere in this article.Highlight Universals name in that article for me cause I sure dont see it!The ONLY one I am seeing who is "slapping lawsuits" is Prince! [Edited 6/30/08 9:41am] This is from Mr. Christer's post right here on the Org. From what I understand he is directly involved with the project. Like I said, I'm just curious as to what the claim states, i'm not sure how you got on this I'm blaming Universal shit: 3. When it comes to the process of making a cover, it's a lot of different meanings and rules... The thing is that if you're making a straight cover, you don't have to apply. But if you're doing significant changes (lyrics, removing part of the arrangement, add elements from other songs to it etc) you have to apply to the Publishers. We did that in october 2007. We asked Universal Publishing, Sweden (a sub-publisher of Universal Publishing, USA), and our response was that "as long as you make a straight cover, no-one can stop it". To me that was a "GO", and I asked the artists that they should not make any lyrical changes, and told them to make "straight covers". As far as I'm concerned, we have done everything by the book, and even TONO (the copyright-agency in Norway) were surprised when they heard about this "claim" from Universal Publishing USA. As they said "I've never experienced anything like this". Therefore we keep on selling it, until we know what the reason for stopping it would be. [Edited 6/30/08 9:49am] [Edited 6/30/08 9:50am] | |
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Barbara07 said: toots said: It's perfectly legal to record and sell cover songs of someone else's material, so long as you pay the compulsory licensing fee of about 10 cents per song. To sell their five-disc set of 81 Prince cover songs, they would have to remit around $8 per unit sold to Prince, under a compulsory mechanical license. Norway's C+C Records distributed 5,000 of the box sets starting earlier this month, plus digital versions, and claim that no one made any money from the project. As a result, they didn't think they owed Prince anything except maybe a free copy. I feel terrible for the Norwegian artists, but it seems they didn't take care of the necessary things that are so important with any business venture. Are you missing something important here? (I have highlighted what I mean) This article says they haven't paid him anything because they made no profit... so how is the licensing legality taken care of then if nothing was paid? [Edited 6/30/08 9:41am] Read the underlined part of it thatt I put please you didnt read on obviously. TWhat makes you think that they never paid it they could of and us not known about it:nod:( that does effect the pricing yes) Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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Toots, it's in black and white in front of you.
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wonder505 said: toots said: Where in this article are you getting Universal???? I dont see Universal's name anywhere in this article so takes me back to my quesition, What make you THINK Universal had anything to do with it when Prince was the one who slapped THEM with the lawsuit( he could be using a company that is different now).In a way you are putting the fault on Universal when they are not mentioned anywhere in this article.Highlight Universals name in that article for me cause I sure dont see it!The ONLY one I am seeing who is "slapping lawsuits" is Prince! [Edited 6/30/08 9:41am] This is from Mr. Christer's post right here on the Org. Like I said, I'm just curious as to what the claim states: 3. When it comes to the process of making a cover, it's a lot of different meanings and rules... The thing is that if you're making a straight cover, you don't have to apply. But if you're doing significant changes (lyrics, removing part of the arrangement, add elements from other songs to it etc) you have to apply to the Publishers. We did that in october 2007. We asked Universal Publishing, Sweden (a sub-publisher of Universal Publishing, USA), and our response was that "as long as you make a straight cover, no-one can stop it". To me that was a "GO", and I asked the artists that they should not make any lyrical changes, and told them to make "straight covers". As far as I'm concerned, we have done everything by the book, and even TONO (the copyright-agency in Norway) were surprised when they heard about this "claim" from Universal Publishing USA. As they said "I've never experienced anything like this". Therefore we keep on selling it, until we know what the reason for stopping it would be. SEE that was NOT on the first page of the original post thanks so much. Now since they DID do everything right( including not change the cuss words) OR IS IT because they didnt change the cuss words into the non profanity version like he wants.Either way if it is legal in another country and THEY DID PAY THE FEES he DEFINATELY DONT have a lawsuit and they cant be touched so him trying to fight this is like water in ones hands and keep it from not leaking. My apologies to you. Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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Barbara07 said: Toots, it's in black and white in front of you.
As a result, they didn't think they owed Prince anything except maybe a free copy. yes but wonder is also right they did everything by the book ( which as far as they claim THEY paid the fees for it) Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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toots said: wonder505 said: This is from Mr. Christer's post right here on the Org. Like I said, I'm just curious as to what the claim states: 3. When it comes to the process of making a cover, it's a lot of different meanings and rules... The thing is that if you're making a straight cover, you don't have to apply. But if you're doing significant changes (lyrics, removing part of the arrangement, add elements from other songs to it etc) you have to apply to the Publishers. We did that in october 2007. We asked Universal Publishing, Sweden (a sub-publisher of Universal Publishing, USA), and our response was that "as long as you make a straight cover, no-one can stop it". To me that was a "GO", and I asked the artists that they should not make any lyrical changes, and told them to make "straight covers". As far as I'm concerned, we have done everything by the book, and even TONO (the copyright-agency in Norway) were surprised when they heard about this "claim" from Universal Publishing USA. As they said "I've never experienced anything like this". Therefore we keep on selling it, until we know what the reason for stopping it would be. SEE that was NOT on the first page of the original post thanks so much. Now since they DID do everything right( including not change the cuss words) OR IS IT because they didnt change the cuss words into the non profanity version like he wants.Either way if it is legal in another country and THEY DID PAY THE FEES he DEFINATELY DONT have a lawsuit and they cant be touched so him trying to fight this is like water in ones hands and keep it from not leaking. My apologies to you. Accepted, but I think its kinda wack that your apology to me is not in bold and caps. | |
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wonder505 said: toots said: SEE that was NOT on the first page of the original post thanks so much. Now since they DID do everything right( including not change the cuss words) OR IS IT because they didnt change the cuss words into the non profanity version like he wants.Either way if it is legal in another country and THEY DID PAY THE FEES he DEFINATELY DONT have a lawsuit and they cant be touched so him trying to fight this is like water in ones hands and keep it from not leaking. MY APOLOGIES TO YOU. Accepted, but I think its kinda wack that your apology to me is not in bold and caps. Better now dear( I am used to expressing and stressing words in caps that is the way I have always been) Now you definately have my noodle going here. [Edited 6/30/08 10:05am] Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song
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