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Prince makes top 10 songwriters list!

paste magazine said:

The Top 10

10. Prince
9. Joni Mitchell
8. Elvis Costello
7. Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys)
6. Leonard Cohen
5. Paul McCartney (The Beatles, Wings)
4. Tom Waits & Kathleen Brennan
3. Bruce Springsteen
2. Neil Young (Buffalo Sprinfield, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
1. Bob Dylan

do u agree with the order?
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Reply #1 posted 06/16/08 8:48am

sexxydancer

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink
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Reply #2 posted 06/16/08 8:50am

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sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

are u crazy...i cant believe they have prince and no stevie wonder....again there are no prince songs on home keyboards!
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Reply #3 posted 06/16/08 8:54am

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mirrorbestfriend said:

sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

are u crazy...i cant believe they have prince and no stevie wonder....again there are no prince songs on home keyboards!

Of the people on this list,Prince should b #1. wink
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Reply #4 posted 06/16/08 8:55am

fanatic4ever

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I would say that is a decent list. But I would have to move Prince up and add Bernie Taupin to the list. He is one of the greatest songwriters ever.
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Reply #5 posted 06/16/08 8:56am

Genesia

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No Carole King or Neil Diamond? disbelief
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Reply #6 posted 06/16/08 2:49pm

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here is the 50-11 they had:

50. Public Enemy (Chuck D, Flavor Flav, Hank Shocklee, Eric Sadler, et al)
49. Cat Stevens
48. Gillian Welch & David Rawlings
47. Sufjan Stevens
46. David Byrne (Talking Heads)
45. Jackson Browne
44. Al Green
43. Ryan Adams (Whiskeytown)
42. Loretta Lynn
41. Ray Davies (The Kinks)

40. Burt Bacharach & Hal David 39. Led Zeppelin (Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones, John Bonham)
38. Kris Kristofferson
37. Smokey Robinson
36. Beck Hansen
35. Steve Earle
34. John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
33. Pete Townshend (The Who)
32. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
31. Carole King

30. John Prine
29. Tom Petty
28. Robbie Robertson (The Band)
27. Radiohead (Thom Yorke, Jonny Greenwood, Colin Greenwood, Ed O'Brien, Phil Selway)
26. R.E.M. (Peter Buck, Bill Berry, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe)
25. Chuck Berry
24. Jeff Tweedy (Wilco, Uncle Tupelo, Golden Smog, Loose Fur, etc.)
23. Elton John & Bernie Taupin
22. Lucinda Williams
21. Lou Reed (Velvet Underground)

20. Van Morrison
19. Patty Griffin
18. U2 (Bono, The Edge, Larry Mullen Jr., Adam Clayton)
17. Holland-Dozier-Holland
16. David Bowie
15. Willie Nelson
14. Stevie Wonder
13. Paul Simon
12. Mick Jagger & Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones
11. Randy Newman
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Reply #7 posted 06/16/08 4:22pm

Dayclear

mirrorbestfriend said:

sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

are u crazy...i cant believe they have prince and no stevie wonder....again there are no prince songs on home keyboards!

Not a Brother on there!
disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 06/16/08 4:46pm

jdcxc

This list was a travesty for the low and non-existent representation of African-Americans. How can Smokey, Stevie, Curtis Mayfield be shut out of the top ten? And no James Brown on the list...please.
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Reply #9 posted 06/16/08 4:50pm

Dewrede

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cool but where are the Bee Gees ?
[Edited 6/16/08 16:50pm]
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Reply #10 posted 06/16/08 4:58pm

SUPRMAN

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mirrorbestfriend said:[quote]paste magazine said:

The Top 10

10. Prince
9. Joni Mitchell
8. Elvis Costello
7. Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys)
6. Leonard Cohen
5. Paul McCartney (The Beatles, Wings)
4. Tom Waits & Kathleen Brennan
3. Bruce Springsteen
2. Neil Young (Buffalo Sprinfield, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
1. Bob Dylan

do u agree with the order?[/quote

I guess Prince is the token minority.
I would put Prince ahead of Springsteen, Neil Young, Tom Waits.
Where are Gamble and Huff? Berry Gordy?
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Reply #11 posted 06/16/08 4:59pm

SUPRMAN

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fanatic4ever said:

I would say that is a decent list. But I would have to move Prince up and add Bernie Taupin to the list. He is one of the greatest songwriters ever.

I would add Bernie Taupin and Stevie Wonder in front of Tom Waits and Elvis Costello
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Reply #12 posted 06/16/08 5:18pm

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jdcxc said:

This list was a travesty for the low and non-existent representation of African-Americans. How can Smokey, Stevie, Curtis Mayfield be shut out of the top ten? And no James Brown on the list...please.

they say we just good at rhythm tracks not actually songwriting
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Reply #13 posted 06/16/08 6:02pm

jdcxc

mirrorbestfriend said:

jdcxc said:

This list was a travesty for the low and non-existent representation of African-Americans. How can Smokey, Stevie, Curtis Mayfield be shut out of the top ten? And no James Brown on the list...please.

they say we just good at rhythm tracks not actually songwriting


Maybe that's why all those other songwriters steal from so many great black muscians and songwriters. Van Morrison, Paul Simon, Rolling Stones, Beatles, etc. have been cashing black checks for years. And I thought the list was for songwriters, not poets. Rhythm, melody, verse. Smokey not in the top ten, I still can't believe it. The only reason they see fit to rank Prince is because of his guitar-based compositions (yet RS still keeps him off their guitar list-the irony). So many critics are elitist, backwards looking, narrow-minded. No wonder rock journalism is dead.

Why do I get so upset at these ridiculous lists?
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Reply #14 posted 06/16/08 9:47pm

SUPRMAN

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mirrorbestfriend said:

jdcxc said:

This list was a travesty for the low and non-existent representation of African-Americans. How can Smokey, Stevie, Curtis Mayfield be shut out of the top ten? And no James Brown on the list...please.

they say we just good at rhythm tracks not actually songwriting

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Reply #15 posted 06/16/08 9:50pm

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mirrorbestfriend said:

paste magazine said:

The Top 10

10. Prince
9. Joni Mitchell
8. Elvis Costello
7. Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys)
6. Leonard Cohen
5. Paul McCartney (The Beatles, Wings)
4. Tom Waits & Kathleen Brennan
3. Bruce Springsteen
2. Neil Young (Buffalo Sprinfield, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
1. Bob Dylan

do u agree with the order?



Of this Top Ten only Paul McCartney has more hits than Prince
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Reply #16 posted 06/17/08 12:49am

alandail

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cool but where are the Bee Gees ?
[Edited 6/16/08 16:50pm]


I know - they should be in the top 10, more surprising is how could they possibly get to 50 and still not have Barry Gibb in there somewhere. They completely forgot John Lennon too.

And how is Bruce Springstein #3?
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Reply #17 posted 06/17/08 2:25am

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mirrorbestfriend said:

jdcxc said:

This list was a travesty for the low and non-existent representation of African-Americans. How can Smokey, Stevie, Curtis Mayfield be shut out of the top ten? And no James Brown on the list...please.

they say we just good at rhythm tracks not actually songwriting

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Well lately we are good at rhythm tracks and not words. Curtis, Smokey, and Stevie should be on the list and they are ahead of Prince in the songwriting department but I cannot think of anyone black that has come along in the last decade that is really a great songwriter. P maybe the last of the great songwriters, performer and musician of his generation in the black community.
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Reply #18 posted 06/17/08 3:26am

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Ya can't even agree with a list like that, that doesn't contain, Barry Manillow, EarthWind&Fire...Neil Sedaka, amongst several others...from the past.
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Reply #19 posted 06/17/08 6:24am

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mirrorbestfriend said:

paste magazine said:

The Top 10

10. Prince
9. Joni Mitchell
8. Elvis Costello
7. Brian Wilson (The Beach Boys)
6. Leonard Cohen
5. Paul McCartney (The Beatles, Wings)
4. Tom Waits & Kathleen Brennan
3. Bruce Springsteen
2. Neil Young (Buffalo Sprinfield, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young)
1. Bob Dylan

do u agree with the order?


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Reply #20 posted 06/17/08 7:28am

midnightmover

Elvis Costello and Brian Wilson have absolutely no place in the top 10. To rank them above Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon is laughable. Neil Young should not be number two either. They got the number one position right but that's a no brainer. I think Prince is probably in the right position. He could probably be a few spots higher, but they're in the right ballpark.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #21 posted 06/17/08 7:33am

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midnightmover said:

Elvis Costello and Brian Wilson have absolutely no place in the top 10. To rank them above Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon is laughable. Neil Young should not be number two either. They got the number one position right but that's a no brainer. I think Prince is probably in the right position. He could probably be a few spots higher, but they're in the right ballpark.



Are you kidding, you do know that's Brian wilson of the beach boys...pet sounds, god only knows, good vibrations, I can go on..

But anyway two of my favourite musician's in the top 10, brian wilson and Prince.

But Prince should be higher, yet he is laways shunned by this stuff, was he even in rolling stone's greatest guitarists list?
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Reply #22 posted 06/17/08 7:44am

midnightmover

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midnightmover said:

Elvis Costello and Brian Wilson have absolutely no place in the top 10. To rank them above Stevie Wonder and Paul Simon is laughable. Neil Young should not be number two either. They got the number one position right but that's a no brainer. I think Prince is probably in the right position. He could probably be a few spots higher, but they're in the right ballpark.



Are you kidding, you do know that's Brian wilson of the beach boys...pet sounds, god only knows, good vibrations, I can go on..

But anyway two of my favourite musician's in the top 10, brian wilson and Prince.

But Prince should be higher, yet he is laways shunned by this stuff, was he even in rolling stone's greatest guitarists list?

Actually, you could probably only go on for a few more seconds and then you'd be struggling. Brian Wilson was a great producer and musician. He had great ears and a unique vision, but judged purely as a songwriter he is not fit to kiss the ass of 90% of the people ranked below him on that list. Most of his songs were co-written with other people anyway. That fact alone should disqualify him from a place in the Top 50 songwriters.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #23 posted 06/17/08 7:54am

colorblu

sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

wave sexy dancing jig
nod
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Reply #24 posted 06/17/08 9:06am

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mirrorbestfriend said:

here is the 50-11 they had:

50. Public Enemy (Chuck D, Flavor Flav, Hank Shocklee, Eric Sadler, et al)
49. Cat Stevens
48. Gillian Welch & David Rawlings
47. Sufjan Stevens
46. David Byrne (Talking Heads)
45. Jackson Browne
44. Al Green
43. Ryan Adams (Whiskeytown)
42. Loretta Lynn
41. Ray Davies (The Kinks)

40. Burt Bacharach & Hal David 39. Led Zeppelin (Jimmy Page, Robert Plant, John Paul Jones, John Bonham)
38. Kris Kristofferson
37. Smokey Robinson
36. Beck Hansen
35. Steve Earle
34. John Fogerty (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
33. Pete Townshend (The Who)
32. Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller
31. Carole King

30. John Prine
29. Tom Petty
28. Robbie Robertson (The Band)
27. Radiohead (Thom Yorke, Jonny Greenwood, Colin Greenwood, Ed O'Brien, Phil Selway)
26. R.E.M. (Peter Buck, Bill Berry, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe)
25. Chuck Berry
24. Jeff Tweedy (Wilco, Uncle Tupelo, Golden Smog, Loose Fur, etc.)
23. Elton John & Bernie Taupin
22. Lucinda Williams
21. Lou Reed (Velvet Underground)

20. Van Morrison
19. Patty Griffin
18. U2 (Bono, The Edge, Larry Mullen Jr., Adam Clayton)
17. Holland-Dozier-Holland
16. David Bowie
15. Willie Nelson
14. Stevie Wonder
13. Paul Simon
12. Mick Jagger & Keith Richards (The Rolling Stones
11. Randy Newman


wth ..kris kostofflin aka whistler in front of led zepplin? omfg shake
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #25 posted 06/17/08 9:07am

sexxydancer

colorblu said:

sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

wave sexy dancing jig
nod
cool king guitar

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Reply #26 posted 06/17/08 9:20am

InsatiableCrea
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where the hell is Jimi Hendrix lockdance
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Reply #27 posted 06/17/08 12:55pm

Spookymuffin

Prince couldn't write a song these days if fucking William Blake cockslapped his nose.

rolleyes
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Reply #28 posted 06/17/08 1:03pm

Graycap23

This list is embarrassing.
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Reply #29 posted 06/17/08 1:25pm

Maia7

colorblu said:

sexxydancer said:

Nope,Prince should b #1. wink

wave sexy dancing jig
nod
cool king guitar



nod biggrin wink
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