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PrintableJustErin said: Efan said: Yeah, for real, I know about that definition of "dumb." But not being able to speak has nothing to do with being able to understand things. Lots of people who can't talk understand things. For real. Actually, being deaf, blind and not able to speak has everything to do with not being able to understand things. It's not about not having the intelligence to understand…it's about not having any way to communicate or be communicated to. This is exactly what he means by that line and (I believe that) he is making reference to a passage in the bible. He might be shooting for that, but he doesn't achieve it. He doesn't talk about deafness at all (and "made the deaf understand" would make more sense, imo). Prince is talking about the blind and the dumb separately in the song--the blind see and the dumb understand--so he's not talking about anyone who is deaf, dumb, and blind. | |
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Efan said: JustErin said: Actually, being deaf, blind and not able to speak has everything to do with not being able to understand things. It's not about not having the intelligence to understand…it's about not having any way to communicate or be communicated to. This is exactly what he means by that line and (I believe that) he is making reference to a passage in the bible. He might be shooting for that, but he doesn't achieve it. He doesn't talk about deafness at all (and "made the deaf understand" would make more sense, imo). Prince is talking about the blind and the dumb separately in the song--the blind see and the dumb understand--so he's not talking about anyone who is deaf, dumb, and blind. Um...no. So he didn't quote it word for word, whatever...but he's totally talking about what I mentioned and most people understand fully what he's saying so I'd say he achieved it just fine. But ok, you think what you want. Prince is talking about Jesus making people with low intelligence understand that the answer to 2+2 =4.  | |
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JustErin said: Efan said: He might be shooting for that, but he doesn't achieve it. He doesn't talk about deafness at all (and "made the deaf understand" would make more sense, imo). Prince is talking about the blind and the dumb separately in the song--the blind see and the dumb understand--so he's not talking about anyone who is deaf, dumb, and blind. Um...no. So he didn't quote it word for word, whatever...but he's totally talking about what I mentioned and most people understand fully what he's saying so I'd say he achieved it just fine. But ok, you think what you want. Prince is talking about Jesus making people with low intelligence understand that the answer to 2+2 =4. Erin, I don't think you and I have interacted very much over the years, but I can honestly say you are one of my very favorite orgers. So I don't mean to be argumentative here, but I guess I'm hungover and cranky today, because here I'm going again. My points are these: 1) "Dumb" does not mean "deaf." They are two completely separate things and have nothing to do with each other. You can be deaf and still be able to speak (like Marlee Matlin) or you can be unable to speak but able to hear. You would have to go back to Old High German to have "dumb" also have a connotation of deaf. Seriously, I looked it up in the OED after all this. 2) Is there really an instance of Jesus curing someone who was deaf, dumb, and blind (all three) in the bible? Because Prince is describing separate incidents. 3) Even by 1985, "dumb" was considered politically incorrect, so it was kind of funny for Prince to use that term. 4) Even though I know what Prince was going for in the lyric, he didn't achieve it--which is what made it unintentionally funny, which is the title of my thread. And I'm totally serious when I tell you that I say all of the above with total love and respect--I really do think you rock. I just thought you were calling me stupid in your initial post, which got me all riled up.  | |
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Efan said: JustErin said: Um...no. So he didn't quote it word for word, whatever...but he's totally talking about what I mentioned and most people understand fully what he's saying so I'd say he achieved it just fine. But ok, you think what you want. Prince is talking about Jesus making people with low intelligence understand that the answer to 2+2 =4. Erin, I don't think you and I have interacted very much over the years, but I can honestly say you are one of my very favorite orgers. So I don't mean to be argumentative here, but I guess I'm hungover and cranky today, because here I'm going again. My points are these: 1) "Dumb" does not mean "deaf." They are two completely separate things and have nothing to do with each other. You can be deaf and still be able to speak (like Marlee Matlin) or you can be unable to speak but able to hear. You would have to go back to Old High German to have "dumb" also have a connotation of deaf. Seriously, I looked it up in the OED after all this. 2) Is there really an instance of Jesus curing someone who was deaf, dumb, and blind (all three) in the bible? Because Prince is describing separate incidents. 3) Even by 1985, "dumb" was considered politically incorrect, so it was kind of funny for Prince to use that term. 4) Even though I know what Prince was going for in the lyric, he didn't achieve it--which is what made it unintentionally funny, which is the title of my thread. And I'm totally serious when I tell you that I say all of the above with total love and respect--I really do think you rock. I just thought you were calling me stupid in your initial post, which got me all riled up. Yikes. I was not calling you stupid.
I know that deaf doesn't mean dumb, it's deaf and blind people that are considered 'dumb' because they can't communicate - dumb means they can't talk. I don't know much about the bible but I think there is something about him curing the blind, deaf and dumb. | |
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this is funny-where's it from? i so really love 'a case of u' - such a beautiful & cool song, & serious too, seriously gorgeous, but what cracks me up every time is the way he sings the line 'i live in a box of... ...paints....the way he sings tht is soooo unintentionally funny imo. it's the pause & the anticipation like he has 2 brace himself 2 sing tht line. clever lyrics, but dramatic & cheeseball all the same. i cant make you love me And if you were with me tonight,
I'd sing to you just one more time. A song for a heart so big, god wouldn't let it live. | |
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you've got an ass like ive never seen, and the ride is so smooth...u must be a limousine aka ChristinaS | |
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SUPRMAN said: Efan said: Actually, that's "a toke or two." WHAT?! That doesn't make contextual sense. Why a toke in the middle of a contract? Have you ever heard the expression, "What they hell were they smoking?" to express incredulity over something someone has done? He's saying that the people who wrote the contract must've been smoking dope. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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purplepolitician said: eyewishuheaven said: crunkytown said: His Paris hair, it blows in the warm Parisian air that blows whenever his Paris hair is there.  Is that for real??? from sheila e.'s the belle of st. mark  .  song anyways.Is that what it says??? I could never understand that line, it sounded cool though but I thought she sang something about warm and Rio de Janeiro (rio de janeire -> parisian hair)  ok, never mind. | |
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CJanssen said: purplepolitician said: from sheila e.'s the belle of st. mark . song anyways.Is that what it says??? I could never understand that line, it sounded cool though but I thought she sang something about warm and Rio de Janeiro (rio de janeire -> parisian hair) ok, never mind. just looked it up. was listening to sheila's first two album earlier   .For all time I am with you, you are with me. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: psychodelicide said: This unreleased song by Prince always cracks me up.
Work That Fat Yo, yo - where all the fat girls at? Get on the dance floor, baby And let me work that fat (Woo!) Yeah, let me work that fat Yeah! That's how we like 'em - fat and proud Cuz when they sit down, they sit all around The whole house - sidewalk and everything else I'll be damned, baby, if U don't sit on yourself But that's what I like U 4 (Let me work that fat) {x2} And take U 2 the crib - I swear 2 God U got stuck in the door Say U didn't, U know U did Opened up the ice box, ate everything in the crib Midnight snack, my ass! Bought 7 packs of cookies, thinking they would last I'll be damned, baby ate the wrapper 2! Then looked at me and said, "Nigga, I'll eat U, 2!" (Let me work that fat) {x2} But I guess 4 now that'll do My baby's fat - I like her like that I hate a skinny skench talking straight out her hat About a credit card, and how I need 2 give her mine I swear 2 God I'll step on that neck every time! (Let me work that fat) I'd rather hang out with my boys and cruise Plymouth Lookin' 4 a fat girl toy so I can make a play And take her 2 the way And introduce her 2 my brother Sonny T's bass Or maybe my guitar I'll play so loud she'll quickly get her big ass in the car Get in, shut up, get in! Push the seat back - U can fit Then sit on top of the monster, I don't care! Just shut up, get in! (Let me work that fat) {x2} What? What? Oh! {x3} U in trouble now! Mike, turn this shit up! Aw yeah! (Let me work that fat) {x2} Told U U should... Shut up! Sit down! Got sho'nuff plenty nerve (What, what?) (Let me work that fat) {x2} Ha ha ha... Damn, is this where U live? How many food stamps did U have 2 give 2 get this palace? Yeah, this is really nice I betcha my thigh ain't as big as one of these mice What kind of traps U use? I know they don't work Mice take the cheese and say, "D-d-damn, what a jerk!" U must be nuts - think I'm go'n sleep here Quiet as it's kept There's several things 2 fear in this habitat Let me guess, let me guess "U like it like that" {x2} So nobody'll rob ya Well, as a matter of fact who is this brother? What's he doing in your bed? Wake up, brother, 'fore I take this new 9 and tap U on your head! No no, she's my girl - every last mile Now I suggest U start explaining Before I slap that smile in the living room U got a lotta nerve Why don't U get your clothes And introduce your silly ass 2 the curb? Damn, I shoulda known Treat a lady wrong, she'll do U the same Can I use your phone? I wanna call Mike Mike, gimme another solo I'm through with these fat girls They know they fine They pop U out every time Know what, U know what? If I see your boyfriend outside I'm go'n hit him with the car That's right Oh! Fat girls Let me work that fat Although, a fat woman might not find the lyrics amusing.very true because i played it 4 someone that wasn't fat but she considered herself 2 b a little over weight..she didn't laugh at all u would have thought i said "i didn't know i was playing in a cathedral"    RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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