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Thread started 06/10/08 6:24am

strutboy

Prince must face the music and fans stop making excuses for him

Fans that are trying to let Prince off the hook for continued maltreatment have the equivalent of Stockholm syndrome - where the abducted person falls for their kidnapper.

Wake up from his spellbinding hold on you. Prince is a mortal. He is a man that is incredibly talented, wealthy and privileged, idolised by millions, which means that he more than most has a duty to behave in a fair and thoughtful manner.

Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive. Canceeling a show so late in the day without giving a direct and thorough explanation is repellent and unforgivable. Sorry to say but our Messianic, musical genius is a selfish and delusional creature.

I would even go as far as to say that he was downright outrageous to Warners, who gave him the largest and most inflated record deal in history, gave him unheard of control for a major label artist. Even then he threw a childish tantrum.

You'll probably say I'm being too negative and that I should not follow him if I have so little faith. But I liken his behaviour over time after years of support as actions similar to your best mate running off with your wife, your longterm business partner running off with all the money etc.

If he is genuinely ill or something then I retract my criticism, but his fans have suffered too much to not be given credible reasons.
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Reply #1 posted 06/10/08 6:25am

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Is there an echo in here? confuse
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Reply #2 posted 06/10/08 6:27am

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strutboy said:

Fans that are trying to let Prince off the hook for continued maltreatment have the equivalent of Stockholm syndrome - where the abducted person falls for their kidnapper.

Wake up from his spellbinding hold on you. Prince is a mortal. He is a man that is incredibly talented, wealthy and privileged, idolised by millions, which means that he more than most has a duty to behave in a fair and thoughtful manner.

Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive. Canceeling a show so late in the day without giving a direct and thorough explanation is repellent and unforgivable. Sorry to say but our Messianic, musical genius is a selfish and delusional creature.

I would even go as far as to say that he was downright outrageous to Warners, who gave him the largest and most inflated record deal in history, gave him unheard of control for a major label artist. Even then he threw a childish tantrum.

You'll probably say I'm being too negative and that I should not follow him if I have so little faith. But I liken his behaviour over time after years of support as actions similar to your best mate running off with your wife, your longterm business partner running off with all the money etc.

If he is genuinely ill or something then I retract my criticism, but his fans have suffered too much to not be given credible reasons.

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"Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive"

He has not sued anyone and no you cannot film a concert. All venues have big signs that tell you not to do it.

And no I am not a Kool-Aid drinker. I do not like the way P goes about things but, legally on some issues he is within his rights.
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Reply #3 posted 06/10/08 6:35am

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yh, it's like a work collegue who thows a sickie, when u just know they can't b bothered 2 get outta their bed, or they've decided 2 have an early morning sex sesh & got carried awayy...
i hope p shows some remorse/respect & isn't spotted out clubbing tht night....!
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Reply #4 posted 06/10/08 6:39am

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strutboy said:

Fans that are trying to let Prince off the hook for continued maltreatment have the equivalent of Stockholm syndrome - where the abducted person falls for their kidnapper.

Wake up from his spellbinding hold on you. Prince is a mortal. He is a man that is incredibly talented, wealthy and privileged, idolised by millions, which means that he more than most has a duty to behave in a fair and thoughtful manner.

Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive. Canceeling a show so late in the day without giving a direct and thorough explanation is repellent and unforgivable. Sorry to say but our Messianic, musical genius is a selfish and delusional creature.

I would even go as far as to say that he was downright outrageous to Warners, who gave him the largest and most inflated record deal in history, gave him unheard of control for a major label artist. Even then he threw a childish tantrum.

You'll probably say I'm being too negative and that I should not follow him if I have so little faith. But I liken his behaviour over time after years of support as actions similar to your best mate running off with your wife, your longterm business partner running off with all the money etc.

If he is genuinely ill or something then I retract my criticism, but his fans have suffered too much to not be given credible reasons.

When does it ever stop? This is ridiculous right here. rolleyes
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #5 posted 06/10/08 6:48am

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strutboy said:

Fans that are trying to let Prince off the hook for continued maltreatment have the equivalent of Stockholm syndrome - where the abducted person falls for their kidnapper.

Wake up from his spellbinding hold on you. Prince is a mortal. He is a man that is incredibly talented, wealthy and privileged, idolised by millions, which means that he more than most has a duty to behave in a fair and thoughtful manner.

Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive. Canceeling a show so late in the day without giving a direct and thorough explanation is repellent and unforgivable. Sorry to say but our Messianic, musical genius is a selfish and delusional creature.

I would even go as far as to say that he was downright outrageous to Warners, who gave him the largest and most inflated record deal in history, gave him unheard of control for a major label artist. Even then he threw a childish tantrum.

You'll probably say I'm being too negative and that I should not follow him if I have so little faith. But I liken his behaviour over time after years of support as actions similar to your best mate running off with your wife, your longterm business partner running off with all the money etc.

If he is genuinely ill or something then I retract my criticism, but his fans have suffered too much to not be given credible reasons.




Amen!!!!
I for one agree with you, but boy did you pick the wrong venue to express it.

Let the attacks begin!!!!!
Kool-Aid Kids, ACTIVATE!!!!!
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y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #6 posted 06/10/08 6:51am

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talk about an over reaction...and I dont see to may people making excuses for him, I dont know what u have been reading confuse
There are an awful lot of Pissed off threads more like it nod


Umm and Im curious as to what u mean by likening his behaviour to the best friend running off with the wife etc hmmm are u saying that u forgive him anyway? lol



Bye the way....that one heck of a statement to retract if he is ill lol
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

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Reply #7 posted 06/10/08 6:52am

Imago

Good post.

It doesn't quite match the thread title though. As far as the thread title, I don't think Prince actually makes excuses for anything. That would imply that he knows there's a problem. Prince doesn't, in fact, think that the quality of his output is any worse than it was before, I'm sure. Hell, with the ease in which he manipulates and changes his old classics at whim, I'd reckon to say he probably doesn't realize just how terrific THAT material was. lol

To Prince, it's probably all just part of one big party. And whether folks get it or not, probably is of no concern to him.
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Reply #8 posted 06/10/08 6:59am

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Can we delete this double posted thread now!? biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 06/10/08 7:22am

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is this because he canceled????

can you please allow for the possibility of illness or injury or some other event that caused this? prince is a human being, things happen to him just like to us.

please cut him some slack at least until you know what is going on
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Reply #10 posted 06/10/08 8:15am

PleasurePrinci
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Kool-Aid Kids, ACTIVATE!!!!!

falloff
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Reply #11 posted 06/10/08 8:17am

wonder505

ButterscotchPimp said:

strutboy said:

Fans that are trying to let Prince off the hook for continued maltreatment have the equivalent of Stockholm syndrome - where the abducted person falls for their kidnapper.

Wake up from his spellbinding hold on you. Prince is a mortal. He is a man that is incredibly talented, wealthy and privileged, idolised by millions, which means that he more than most has a duty to behave in a fair and thoughtful manner.

Suing your fans for taking pictures and filming your shows on their mobile phones for prosperity is repulsive. Canceeling a show so late in the day without giving a direct and thorough explanation is repellent and unforgivable. Sorry to say but our Messianic, musical genius is a selfish and delusional creature.

I would even go as far as to say that he was downright outrageous to Warners, who gave him the largest and most inflated record deal in history, gave him unheard of control for a major label artist. Even then he threw a childish tantrum.

You'll probably say I'm being too negative and that I should not follow him if I have so little faith. But I liken his behaviour over time after years of support as actions similar to your best mate running off with your wife, your longterm business partner running off with all the money etc.

If he is genuinely ill or something then I retract my criticism, but his fans have suffered too much to not be given credible reasons.




Amen!!!!
I for one agree with you, but boy did you pick the wrong venue to express it.

Let the attacks begin!!!!!
Kool-Aid Kids, ACTIVATE!!!!!


Habitual Haters, STAND GUARD wink
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Reply #12 posted 06/10/08 8:18am

Dayclear

You all can talk until you're blue but it's not gonna make this concert go on. confused
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Reply #13 posted 06/10/08 8:19am

wonder505

XxAxX said:

is this because he canceled????

can you please allow for the possibility of illness or injury or some other event that caused this? prince is a human being, things happen to him just like to us.

please cut him some slack at least until you know what is going on


that's true concerts get cancelled all the time by almost every artist, but i think because of all the hoopla over the Internet fiasco, him not doing interviews, makes this feel worse.
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Reply #14 posted 06/10/08 9:29am

Paris9748430

This wasn't even his fault. Apparently, the idiot promoter couldn't get the right licences in time or the show, and it had to be cancelled.

There's nothing Prince loves to do more than entertain the people who've supported him for so many years. This is just as upsetting to him as it is the fans. When concerts get cancelled, the artist is the only person who gets blamed, but it takes a whole lot more than Prince to put on a show!!!
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #15 posted 06/10/08 10:36am

strutboy

Paris9748430 said:

This wasn't even his fault. Apparently, the idiot promoter couldn't get the right licences in time or the show, and it had to be cancelled.

There's nothing Prince loves to do more than entertain the people who've supported him for so many years. This is just as upsetting to him as it is the fans. When concerts get cancelled, the artist is the only person who gets blamed, but it takes a whole lot more than Prince to put on a show!!!


What bullshit. I know the promoters and Prince's own people well. The license was granted formally last Friday. It has been confirmed directly to me by MCD that he has given no tangible reason for this cancellation whatsoever.
He's a twat that could give a damn about his fans - that includes you by the way.
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Reply #16 posted 06/10/08 10:40am

wonder505

strutboy said:

Paris9748430 said:

This wasn't even his fault. Apparently, the idiot promoter couldn't get the right licences in time or the show, and it had to be cancelled.

There's nothing Prince loves to do more than entertain the people who've supported him for so many years. This is just as upsetting to him as it is the fans. When concerts get cancelled, the artist is the only person who gets blamed, but it takes a whole lot more than Prince to put on a show!!!


What bullshit. I know the promoters and Prince's own people well. The license was granted formally last Friday. It has been confirmed directly to me by MCD that he has given no tangible reason for this cancellation whatsoever.
He's a twat that could give a damn about his fans - that includes you by the way.


since you know the promoters what did they tell you was the reason....they said Prince said nothing? just like that?..... is there no contracts in place that will obligate an artist to go through with the show and not cancel for no reason? I don't doubt the possibility that he pulled out but since you say you know them what were the details behind this decision?
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Reply #17 posted 06/10/08 10:42am

wonder505

Paris9748430 said:

This wasn't even his fault. Apparently, the idiot promoter couldn't get the right licences in time or the show, and it had to be cancelled.

There's nothing Prince loves to do more than entertain the people who've supported him for so many years. This is just as upsetting to him as it is the fans. When concerts get cancelled, the artist is the only person who gets blamed, but it takes a whole lot more than Prince to put on a show!!!


is this hearsay or was there a statement?
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Reply #18 posted 06/10/08 10:47am

Flowerz

eek


*pulls up a chair couch.. gets the popcorn w/ a pepsi now* reading
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Reply #19 posted 06/10/08 10:52am

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Stockholm syndrome. So fucking true. Battered wives and chained dogs who never think of fleeing when they see an open door cuz they've been trained right by their master. disbelief
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Reply #20 posted 06/10/08 10:54am

wonder505

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Stockholm syndrome. So fucking true. Battered wives and chained dogs who never think of fleeing when they see an open door cuz they've been trained right by their master. disbelief


eek eek
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Reply #21 posted 06/10/08 10:55am

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wonder505 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Stockholm syndrome. So fucking true. Battered wives and chained dogs who never think of fleeing when they see an open door cuz they've been trained right by their master. disbelief


eek eek

Seriously, don't get me started as I hate kool-aid lol
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Reply #22 posted 06/10/08 11:16am

30peacessilver

Sorry but i still don't understand. He is his product and he is selling it. Don't like it just walk on by.
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Reply #23 posted 06/10/08 11:26am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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30peacessilver said:

Sorry but i still don't understand. He is his product and he is selling it. Don't like it just walk on by.

falloff You buy the product and never get it. What are you supposed to do? Be like Appolonia when she announced she got the gig with Morris:

:BITCHSLAPTHATBITCH:

Oh I'm sorry. I'll never disrespect you again! redface

People have a right to bitch about Prince's dodgy exploits. If he didn't want speculation he could easily clear it up by issuing a statement but he doesn't. His fans are expendible to him and he knows enough of them are susceptible to his starhood that they wouldn't question being treated like trash.
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Reply #24 posted 06/10/08 11:37am

Flowerz

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

30peacessilver said:

Sorry but i still don't understand. He is his product and he is selling it. Don't like it just walk on by.

falloff You buy the product and never get it. What are you supposed to do? Be like Appolonia when she announced she got the gig with Morris:

:BITCHSLAPTHATBITCH:

Oh I'm sorry. I'll never disrespect you again! redface


People have a right to bitch about Prince's dodgy exploits. If he didn't want speculation he could easily clear it up by issuing a statement but he doesn't. His fans are expendible to him and he knows enough of them are susceptible to his starhood that they wouldn't question being treated like trash.



falloff
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Reply #25 posted 06/10/08 11:42am

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I'll never forgive Prince for suing me and not allowing me to write about him on the org. And the fact that I can't use a prince anymore really gets my goat.

Thank god I woke up from his spellbinding hold!
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Reply #26 posted 06/10/08 11:46am

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Flowerz said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


falloff You buy the product and never get it. What are you supposed to do? Be like Appolonia when she announced she got the gig with Morris:

:BITCHSLAPTHATBITCH:

Oh I'm sorry. I'll never disrespect you again! redface


People have a right to bitch about Prince's dodgy exploits. If he didn't want speculation he could easily clear it up by issuing a statement but he doesn't. His fans are expendible to him and he knows enough of them are susceptible to his starhood that they wouldn't question being treated like trash.



falloff


Girl I been through the wringer and any motherfucker that tries to abuse me now gets his arms chopped the fuck off. Never let me in Prince's presence so long as he's pulling this crap lol
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Reply #27 posted 06/10/08 11:48am

Imago

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Flowerz said:




falloff


Girl I been through the wringer and any motherfucker that tries to abuse me now gets his arms chopped the fuck off. Never let me in Prince's presence so long as he's pulling this crap lol

falloff
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Reply #28 posted 06/10/08 12:02pm

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mad ever thought that maybe he truly is a humble person and didn't think soo much of himself as to imediately lavish his fanatic followers with an excuse so that they could in turn rub his back and pretend like his ish don't stink.

confused or maybe just maybe he his handling something way more important than you drowning yourself with two more hours of leisure?

if you got such issues with the way he operates- get up and move away from him- permenantly
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Reply #29 posted 06/10/08 12:06pm

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Evvy said:

mad ever thought that maybe he truly is a humble person and didn't think soo much of himself as to imediately lavish his fanatic followers with an excuse so that they could in turn rub his back and pretend like his ish don't stink.

confused or maybe just maybe he his handling something way more important than you drowning yourself with two more hours of leisure?

if you got such issues with the way he operates- get up and move away from him- permenantly


LEISURE HE IS WILLING TO PUT A FUCKING PRICETAG ON! Ridiculous lol
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