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does prince have influence on modern music? So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks! | |
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your friend is a fool.
play him that snoop dogg video that looks like 'when doves cry'. play him 'the love below'. dare your friend to find ONE interview with ?uestlove where he's not namechecking prince. | |
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etreb3ll3 said: So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks!
your friend has no clue | |
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yeah i know, this has been going on for months, usually ends in shouting haha | |
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etreb3ll3 said: yeah i know, this has been going on for months, usually ends in shouting haha
I'd say drop him  | |
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hahaha well he's fun to fight with, i promised him that i would make him a prince fan before 2009 so i've got some work to do | |
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etreb3ll3 said: hahaha well he's fun to fight with, i promised him that i would make him a prince fan before 2009 so i've got some work to do
you're good, ok so if he isnt convinced by January 1, 2009 drop him  | |
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etreb3ll3 said: So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks!
He obviously prefers his own willful ignorance but there are rap songs that use Prince samples. I can't name them but back to this friend. I think you need use this as an excuse to bail out on the friendship. Don't think he's going to broaden his mind because you think informing him will help. It won't. [Edited 6/5/08 21:04pm] I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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Maroon 5's last CD
Justin Timberlake's last CD AND tour Ciara's 1st single on her last album Ne-Yo's entire career Gnarls Barkley Foo Fighters There's a ton of other examples like this, but this is all I can think of right now!!! JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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Paris9748430 said: Maroon 5's last CD
Justin Timberlake's last CD AND tour Ciara's 1st single on her last album Ne-Yo's entire career Gnarls Barkley Foo Fighters There's a ton of other examples like this, but this is all I can think of right now!!! When I first heard that song DONTCHA WISH YOUR GIRLFRIEND WAS FAT LIKE ME, I thought Prince was behind it, definately influenced by Prince. Also, just listen to Madonna/Timberlake/Timerland and BEyonce, definately influenced by Prince. But who cares, influence is only one part of music, Prince is heavily influenced by hendrix, james brown, stevie wonder, etc and he has overshadowed their careers and developed his own style in the process. | |
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Pop music? No, probably not. I think the vast majority are still unsure if he's still alive let alone performing.
Modern music? What genre? Don't think he's too big in the country scene. | |
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He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates. | |
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WisdomNLove said: etreb3ll3 said: yeah i know, this has been going on for months, usually ends in shouting haha
I'd say drop him Well of course, that's what they do in cults.  | |
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viewaskew said: He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates.
are you wasting time thinking your opinion matters? I LOVE MYSELF | |
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Orange123 said: viewaskew said: He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates.
are you wasting time thinking your opinion matters? No more than you, I guess. But you are wasting time replying to my post with your insignificance. Do yourself a favor & watch it with the personal attacks. [Edited 6/6/08 1:16am] | |
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viewaskew said: WisdomNLove said: I'd say drop him Well of course, that's what they do in cults. 
I think you need to keep your friend, it keeps you on your toes to reconsider princes music, not all of its good. Prince has had a huge impact on modern music, I think hes highly respected in the music industry and many young singers would list him as an influence as theyve grown up with his music but also from the production side etc as for country, prince has covered this genre as well. just dont let your mate listen to any 'prince rap' that will definitely confirm his opinion! walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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Anxiety said: your friend is a fool.
play him that snoop dogg video that looks like 'when doves cry'. play him 'the love below'. dare your friend to find ONE interview with ?uestlove where he's not namechecking prince. Yep..I agree A fool!..but..... Oh definetly do that. ^^^^ show him that snoop dogg 'sexual seduction' video http://www.youtube.com/wa...Kz-RXSeIYA and then play him the 'when doves cry' video http://www.mtv.com/overdr...1&vid=9700 I provided you video links to both. look up ?uestlove and show him...as anxiety said. I betcha he's listening to "the Dream' as well. Pull up those videos like 'Purple Kisses' .. 'Fast Car' ... 'Falsetto' and show him songs like 'Little Red Corvette' and how Prince had influenced his sound and style. Show him examples of how Prince is so many genres wrapped into one artist. and create his own. I mean there's not 2 many artists out there today that have it all in one package. Dare him 2 actually listen 2 his songs without looking at him. Do some research..I know you can find rap artist and other artists that give Prince credit. try getting the artists that he listens too. so much more..but if any thing maybe he could end up uttering that he can't doubt Prince is a grand artist. just maybe.. 
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try him on:
Madonna - latest album Most of what the Neptunes produce Beck Basement Jaxx Pussycat Dolls Justin Timberlake |
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Tamera1 said: Anxiety said: your friend is a fool.
play him that snoop dogg video that looks like 'when doves cry'. play him 'the love below'. dare your friend to find ONE interview with ?uestlove where he's not namechecking prince. Yep..I agree A fool!..but..... Oh definetly do that. ^^^^ show him that snoop dogg 'sexual seduction' video http://www.youtube.com/wa...Kz-RXSeIYA and then play him the 'when doves cry' video http://www.mtv.com/overdr...1&vid=9700 I provided you video links to both. look up ?uestlove and show him...as anxiety said. I betcha he's listening to "the Dream' as well. Pull up those videos like 'Purple Kisses' .. 'Fast Car' ... 'Falsetto' and show him songs like 'Little Red Corvette' and how Prince had influenced his sound and style. Show him examples of how Prince is so many genres wrapped into one artist. and create his own. I mean there's not 2 many artists out there today that have it all in one package. Dare him 2 actually listen 2 his songs without looking at him. Do some research..I know you can find rap artist and other artists that give Prince credit. try getting the artists that he listens too. so much more..but if any thing maybe he could end up uttering that he can't doubt Prince is a grand artist. just maybe..
[Edited 6/6/08 2:00am] [Edited 6/6/08 2:07am] Snoop Dogg? Come on! If Weird Al finally puts out a Prince-like video, does that merit mention, too? Chances are, most rap artists would only be inspired by Prince in terms of presentation - glam, show, little substance & newness - like the visual equivalent of the  album. | |
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viewaskew said: Tamera1 said: Yep..I agree A fool!..but..... Oh definetly do that. ^^^^ show him that snoop dogg 'sexual seduction' video http://www.youtube.com/wa...Kz-RXSeIYA and then play him the 'when doves cry' video http://www.mtv.com/overdr...1&vid=9700 I provided you video links to both. look up ?uestlove and show him...as anxiety said. I betcha he's listening to "the Dream' as well. Pull up those videos like 'Purple Kisses' .. 'Fast Car' ... 'Falsetto' and show him songs like 'Little Red Corvette' and how Prince had influenced his sound and style. Show him examples of how Prince is so many genres wrapped into one artist. and create his own. I mean there's not 2 many artists out there today that have it all in one package. Dare him 2 actually listen 2 his songs without looking at him. Do some research..I know you can find rap artist and other artists that give Prince credit. try getting the artists that he listens too. so much more..but if any thing maybe he could end up uttering that he can't doubt Prince is a grand artist. just maybe..
[Edited 6/6/08 2:00am] [Edited 6/6/08 2:07am] Snoop Dogg? Come on! If Weird Al finally puts out a Prince-like video, does that merit mention, too? Chances are, most rap artists would only be inspired by Prince in terms of presentation - glam, show, little substance & newness - like the visual equivalent of the album.My point with snoop dogg as anxeity said too but i can't speak 4 anxeity is that the simuality between the videos. You can not deny that snoop was definetly influenced by Prince. If Werid Al puts out a video what do you get from it? What does his videos say 2 you? My point being with 'rap' artists is that maybe trying to tie together artist her friend listens to and Prince. I can see what you mean,but this person is trying to open someones mind that seems 2 hard 2 be open so maybe start with smaller concepts. [Edited 6/6/08 2:23am] follow the leader follow the leader | |
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Several Minneapolis bands / artists Jimmy Jam / Terry Lewis Janet Jackson In the nineties: Beck World Party Lenny Kravitz In the 00's: Timbaland The Neptunes Outkast Peaches Daft Punk Maroon 5 Bastian Missy Elliot Cornelius Basement Jaxx To name a few [Edited 6/6/08 8:53am] | |
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viewaskew said: He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates.
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iloveannie said: Pop music? No, probably not. I think the vast majority are still unsure if he's still alive let alone performing.
Modern music? What genre? Don't think he's too big in the country scene. You're way off. Prince's recent music may not be as relevant in today’s music but there is absolutely no denying that his music catalogue has influenced just about every genre of modern music in one way or another - especially pop music. I also think you're way off on pop artists not being aware of Prince and his body of work. | |
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etreb3ll3 said: So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks!
Either your friend is just trying to get a rise out of you, or he is truly mentally retarded all the WAY. Seriously. If he listens to rap, he should check out Tupac's album "All Eyez on Me", where there is a track that uses a sample from the end of Darling Nikki. | |
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We've managed 2 look into 2 this some. I hope that u etreb3ll3 have taken some notes.
and let us know what you think? I'm sure others on here have more 2 add. I know there's so many more orgers on here ive talked 2 with open minded and board views,that would most likely have a mad say about this. please update us,etreb3ll3. [Edited 6/6/08 12:06pm] follow the leader follow the leader | |
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etreb3ll3 said: So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks!
Well he difinitley influened alot of real musicians..the likes of Alecia Keys, D'Angelo, Maxwell, Lenny kravitz, Andre 3000, Kanye and Common. People from Neyo, Lloyd, Usher, Timbaland, Pharell, The Dream have all made tributes to this man, fuck that [Edited 6/6/08 14:47pm] Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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kenlacam said: etreb3ll3 said: So i've been having a long running bitter debate with a narrow minded friend of mine who believes that Prince is gay and has no influence on music. He listens to alot of rap and I was wondering if anyone had any points I could use to convince him that Prince has influence on the music he listens to. Thanks!
Either your friend is just trying to get a rise out of you, or he is truly mentally retarded all the WAY. Seriously. If he listens to rap, he should check out Tupac's album "All Eyez on Me", where there is a track that uses a sample from the end of Darling Nikki. he also sampled 777-9311 on "Whats Ya Phone #" Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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viewaskew said: He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates.
you know, i'll be the first to rant for days about how deeply flawed prince can be, but i have to ask: why are you here? is there anything about prince that actually INSPIRES you? are you such a battered fam that coming on a fan site and continually berating prince is your bizarro-world form of enjoyment? help me understand! help me help you help them! SERENITY NOW!!! | |
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Anxiety said: viewaskew said: He had a period of influence as an artist that reached a zenith and then disappeared. He is currently in a period of influence as a douchebag that hopefully nobody emulates.
you know, i'll be the first to rant for days about how deeply flawed prince can be, but i have to ask: why are you here? is there anything about prince that actually INSPIRES you? are you such a battered fam that coming on a fan site and continually berating prince is your bizarro-world form of enjoyment? help me understand! help me help you help them! SERENITY NOW!!! Why does anyone come here? To express their opinion on the guy. I love so much of his earlier work, but with the exception of his ongoing appeal as a live performer, nearly every other aspect of the man in the last decade has left a sour taste in my mouth. I should feel as free to comment from that perspective as anyone delusional enough to think the man can do no wrong. Oh, & his lawyers threatened me once. Screw him. | |
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