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Thread started 05/30/08 1:59pm

sro100

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Is "cussing" necessary?

Just digging on "The Undertaker" and it takes me back to the first time I saw this on disc at the NPG store in Minneapolis.

Boy, I loved Prince's "slave" days. He was at his angriest, and maybe, best. And damn, did he get nasty - - and swear.

Now today I still love a good song if swearing isn't necessary.

But, I don't particularly enjoy the coy approach; of suggesting a "cuss" word is coming in a song, but then back out of it with a "safe" phrase.

He does that in concert also.

Personally, I think any song that doesn't require swearing is all good. But, better just to "curse" than suggest cursing, and thereby drawing possibly even more attention to the word people are expecting.

Y'all???
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Reply #1 posted 05/30/08 2:36pm

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No, dammit!
"LOVE YOURSELF AS ALL PEOPLE"
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Reply #2 posted 05/30/08 2:42pm

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Cussing itself doesn't make a song great. Just look at the shit hop songs that are full of cussing and they aren't shit. However, it ain't the cussing that makes their songs sound like shit, it's the fact that they are slow as hell and don't have any instruments on them. There's nothing to make the ass shake.

There are plenty of good songs that don't have any cussing in them. However, cussing in a good song, definately makes it sound better. The nastier the better but it has to be over some funk, not some damn slow ass shit hop.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #3 posted 05/30/08 2:50pm

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G0d said:

No, dammit!

Yes, Damn! mad
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Reply #4 posted 05/30/08 2:52pm

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Not at all.
"What the duck" Isn't necessary, either, though. lol
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Reply #5 posted 05/30/08 2:55pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

Not at all.
"What the duck" Isn't necessary, either, though. lol


:slitswrists:
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Reply #6 posted 05/30/08 2:57pm

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shitfuckdamassmotherfuckerdumbassbitchwhorecuntslut and etc etc etc I think I got it all covered.

Okay I feel better now biggrin lol
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #7 posted 05/30/08 2:57pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ToraToraDreams said:

Not at all.
"What the duck" Isn't necessary, either, though. lol


:slitswrists:

comfort

Is you all fammed out?
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Reply #8 posted 05/30/08 2:57pm

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If there is no substance in the song but cussing then yh its unnecessary; but if it builds up with the attitude of the song then i wanna hear it..gives it more feeling JUST my opinion. Prince is talented and his music has substance so he never had to rely on swearing the songs were still hot regardless. And ask for hip hop to me HIP POP artists like 50 cent swear for no purpose probably just to create an image to sell a record but when 2pac would swear on a track it wasnt forced just sounded like he said it naturally.
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Reply #9 posted 05/30/08 3:19pm

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well, I never!



like an old lady would say...







I don't cuss and I guess that's a curse.. shrug
Um... let me warm up my vocals
Me ME ME ME ME...U U U U U!
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Reply #10 posted 05/30/08 3:20pm

Anxiety

i think it all has to do with the context and the intent. i think it's obvious when a songwriter tries to throw in a bunch of curse words in a vain attempt to sound "edgier" or angrier, because most of the time the end result sounds awkward and forced. but if a profanity is being used for a reason - to wake the listener up or to channel some kind of raw emotion...well, that's a little bit like art, isn't it?
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Reply #11 posted 05/30/08 3:25pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

G0d said:

No, dammit!

Yes, Damn! mad


Absofuckinglutely
canada

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Reply #12 posted 05/30/08 3:27pm

doegx

i admit it is tough to hear Housequake with "bullshit!!!" in the middle
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Reply #13 posted 05/30/08 3:27pm

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doegx said:

i admit it is tough to hear Housequake with "bullshit!!!" in the middle

I fear for you if that is actually one of your moral considerations lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/30/08 4:10pm

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luv4u said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Yes, Damn! mad


Absofuckinglutely

okeyfuckingdokey lol
Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #15 posted 05/30/08 4:24pm

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toots said:

luv4u said:



Absofuckinglutely

okeyfuckingdokey lol


spit
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Reply #16 posted 05/30/08 4:25pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

doegx said:

i admit it is tough to hear Housequake with "bullshit!!!" in the middle

I fear for you if that is actually one of your moral considerations lol


I think it adds to the song smile

Have you ever considered that other artists cuss on their tracks too?? such as eminem, 50cent or others?
canada

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Reply #17 posted 05/30/08 4:26pm

Jatrig

toots said:

luv4u said:



Absofuckinglutely

okeyfuckingdokey lol




I think a good cuss-word works great in a song, and agree -- it's a hell of a lot better than "shake your pants" -- come on, you sound like a mid-western housewife. When prince has cussed - it's always added emphasis and never been superfluous. When he stopped cussing, his silly "hints" at cussing became cheesy and lame, detracting from what otherwise could've been great songs.
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Reply #18 posted 05/30/08 5:07pm

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Ain't nothin' like a well placed "Motherfucker".... wink


Gets me everytime nod lol
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Reply #19 posted 05/30/08 5:20pm

NDRU

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It's not good or bad in and of itself, only within the context of the song. It's definitely not necessary.

People constantly overlook that some of Prince's most popular albums (Purple Rain & Diamonds & Pearls) don't really have cussing on them.
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Reply #20 posted 05/30/08 5:26pm

Tame

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Sumtimez it is necesarry. cool
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #21 posted 05/30/08 5:55pm

musicology74

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celeste u are killin this muthafucka right here
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Reply #22 posted 05/30/08 11:16pm

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Jatrig said:

toots said:


okeyfuckingdokey lol




I think a good cuss-word works great in a song, and agree -- it's a hell of a lot better than "shake your pants" -- come on, you sound like a mid-western housewife. When prince has cussed - it's always added emphasis and never been superfluous. When he stopped cussing, his silly "hints" at cussing became cheesy and lame, detracting from what otherwise could've been great songs.

Um...excuse me its called a JOKE ever heard of it and no Im no housewife thank you very fucking much! Get a grip geesh! rolleyes

Maybe you should get a sence of humor while your at it too(even lu4u thought that was funny) rolleyes

*hands a pair of tongs to Jatrig to help get whatever it is out of his/her rear*
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Smurf theme song-seriously how many fucking "La Las" can u fit into a dam song wall
Proud Wendy and Lisa Fancy Lesbian asskisser thumbs up!
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Reply #23 posted 05/31/08 1:37am

viewaskew

sro100 said:

Just digging on "The Undertaker" and it takes me back to the first time I saw this on disc at the NPG store in Minneapolis.

Boy, I loved Prince's "slave" days. He was at his angriest, and maybe, best. And damn, did he get nasty - - and swear.

Now today I still love a good song if swearing isn't necessary.

But, I don't particularly enjoy the coy approach; of suggesting a "cuss" word is coming in a song, but then back out of it with a "safe" phrase.

He does that in concert also.

Personally, I think any song that doesn't require swearing is all good. But, better just to "curse" than suggest cursing, and thereby drawing possibly even more attention to the word people are expecting.

Y'all???


It's not necessary, but it's not unnecessary either. I'd rather hear "shit" than "sh- uh oh" or "what the fuck" than "what the duck."
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Reply #24 posted 05/31/08 2:55am

Orange123

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celeste u are killin this muthafucka right here


Die dirty mind die lol
I LOVE MYSELF
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Reply #25 posted 05/31/08 6:09am

doegx

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

doegx said:

i admit it is tough to hear Housequake with "bullshit!!!" in the middle

I fear for you if that is actually one of your moral considerations lol


damn I am crazy I meant to say "without bullshit!" that is my fav line of the song...see what happens when a lurker posts? lol biggrin
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Reply #26 posted 05/31/08 7:52am

Jatrig

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Jatrig said:





I think a good cuss-word works great in a song, and agree -- it's a hell of a lot better than "shake your pants" -- come on, you sound like a mid-western housewife. When prince has cussed - it's always added emphasis and never been superfluous. When he stopped cussing, his silly "hints" at cussing became cheesy and lame, detracting from what otherwise could've been great songs.

Um...excuse me its called a JOKE ever heard of it and no Im no housewife thank you very fucking much! Get a grip geesh! rolleyes

Maybe you should get a sence of humor while your at it too(even lu4u thought that was funny) rolleyes

*hands a pair of tongs to Jatrig to help get whatever it is out of his/her rear*
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hahaha damn Toots - why are you getting so upset? To be very honest, I didn't even read what you had written when I posted what I said, I just clicked "reply to quote" on the very last post (which happend to be yours) so that I could make my own independent comment. If you notice, it in no way responds to what you said at all, the only rational way you could take it as offense is if you read "you sound like" to be directed at you -- and that's a stretch, but to clear it up, I meant someone who says "shake your pants" sounds like a midwestern housewife." I didn't even read whatever it is you wrote, and it certainly, now, doesn't appear to be anything worth the few lines I originally typed. Next time i'll be more careful to click the right hyperlink.

I'll hand the hypothetical tongs back over to you, you may need them more than me.
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Reply #27 posted 05/31/08 8:34am

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Harlan Ellison says that the only obscene word in the english language is "Nixon." haha
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #28 posted 05/31/08 2:15pm

Tamera1

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right now...fuck yes!
follow the leader follow the leader
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Reply #29 posted 05/31/08 2:39pm

NDRU

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2freaky4church1 said:

Harlan Ellison says that the only obscene word in the english language is "Nixon." haha


Let's update that joke to "Bush."
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