viewaskew said:

I agree!

viewaskew said:

Co to the sign.

Prince is insane, barking mad and thats why he does these crazy things. The fact of the matter is if prince wasnt a musician and creating something that society deemed worthwhile his genius/madness would have got him sectioned along time ago. Ill bet you aswell it wouldnt have suprised me if it went through his mind to try and get his performance at the half time superbowl blocked from being broadcast.

Actually, Prince should do nothing but covers, since his new songs all tend to suck rocks...lol

viewaskew said:

I had never heard the original song so what lyrics did he change?

rolling said:

A number of years ago, when he performed on The Today Show to promote Chaos & Disorder, he wanted to put up something that would prevent the audience who had waited outside several hours in Rockefeller Center specifically to see him. NBC told him where he could shove that idea.

More recently, when he last appeared in that ridiculously abbreviated set on Good Morning America in Bryant Park, he put up a screen on the stage so none of the thousands of people there could see him & the band rehearse. The screen was not removed until moments before the televised performance. No other performer is that much of an asshole, especially at a stage in their career where they would benefit from being a little less out of their mind & self-obsessed.

Stymie said:

Not so much changed, but left out a huge chunk of the lyrics.

Here are Joni's:
Just before our love got lost you said
I am as constant as a northern star
And I said, constant in the darkness
Wheres that at?
If you want me Ill be in the bar

On the back of a cartoon coaster
In the blue tv screen light
I drew a map of canada
Oh canada
And your face sketched on it twice

Oh you are in my blood like holy wine
Oh and you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you
I could drink a case of you darling
And I would still be on my feet
Oh Id still be on my feet

Oh I am a lonely painter
I live in a box of paints
Im frightened by the devil
And Im drawn to those ones that aint afraid
I remember that time that you told me, you said
Love is touching souls
Surely you touched mine
Cause part of you pours out of me
In these lines from time to time

Oh you are in my blood like holy wine
And you taste so bitter but you taste so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you
I could drink a case of you darling
Still Id be on my feet
And still be on my feet

I met a woman
She had a mouth like yours
She knew your life
She knew your devils and your deeds
And she said
Color go to him, stay with him if you can
Oh but be prepared to bleed
Oh but you are in my blood youre my holy wine
Oh and you taste so bitter, bitter and so sweet
Oh I could drink a case of you darling
Still Id be on my feet
Id still be on my feet

Prince's version:I'm a lonely painter
I live in a box of paints
I used 2 be frightened by the devil
And drawn 2 those ones that weren't afraid

Remember U told me love was touching souls?
Surely U touched mine
Part of U pours out of me
From time 2 time in these lines (From time 2 time, these lines)

U're in my blood like holy wine
U're so bitter and so sweet, oh (So bitter, so sweet)
I could drink a case of U, oh darling (Darling)
And still be on my feet, yeah
I'd still be on my feet

U're in my blood like holy wine
U're so bitter, so bitter, so, so sweet, oh
(Bitter, bitter, U're oh so sweet)
And I could drink a case of U, ooh darling, oh yeah, yeah
And I'd still be on my feet and I'd still be on my ...
Still be on my feet, I-I'd still-ill-ill...

what bothers me most about this -and others- cover is that he used to bitch
about people covering his songs all the time and say that a song is like a
child and someone else can't just take it and "put it in different clothes"
like changing lyrics or parts of his songs because they were "perfect just
to begin with"

and what have we now? prince rewriting other people's stuff to fit his own
purple rain sound and changing lyrics so badly that the song loses it's
very identity completely.

"you're a creep" damnit prince, damnit. changing the whole feel
and essential lyrics plus leaving out the cusswords. *sad*

it's like someone performing Dolphin live and singing

"if i came back as a cheep whore
would you listen to me then?
would you f*ck me from behind
i would let you in..."

it's just not on. it's yet another example of prince saying 1 thing and then
doing the complete opposite.

His performance at Cochella is still out there.....

Baby is chasing his tail.....

IstenSzek said:

That's frustrating for me, too. It's funny, considering he's done it to almost every cover he's ever done.

IstenSzek said:

Exactly. I didn't like him doing it to his own songs, but I thought, OK, he wrote them, he is treating it as a living creation of his.

But taking someone elses song and changing the lyrics sooo drastically like he's Weird Al or something.
Even Radiohead had a version of "Creep" for the radio with the curses eliminated but that's not what Prince chose to perform either.

rolling said:

They said Einstein and Edison were insane, too.

I think Prince is absolutely misunderstood in this matter. You people can't get your free videos - people have been spoiled with free videos since Youtube came out. What did you do before Youtube - and now Prince tries to revolutionize things a little more by DEFENDING artists rights, starting with his own, and you brats freak out and attack him without even first stopping to REALLY consider his intentions.

And Thome Yorke's comment was probably just something off-the-cuff, but it was quoted by a reporter, so hopefully Prince doesn't believe Yorke has bad blood. He probably his tickled Prince covered his song.

Unless... and consider this... maybe Thome Yorke is the sell-out here. Maybe he realizes Prince is actually right in this matter, but it would the unpopular route to back Prince. So, he sides with all the naysayers by making that comment, thus getting alllll these people on his side. Hence, more record sales. If so, that's a genius business move, Thome.

Life is a game of chess.

purplecam said:

YouTube needs to be fucked with. If they're profiting off of material that is the intellectual property of others, then either they should pay for it, or not publish it. This is the 21st century, thats how business works.

sammij said:

They don't own who sings their songs though. They legally don't have a say in that. Only if P were to "publish" and sell that song would they have some legal say in what he did with it.

lezama said:

Youtube is not making money off of this. They're generating traffic for their site because people WANT to see things. Prince could profit off of it by releasing the Youtubed material on his own, but he'd rather give birth to another PR disaster. That's how Prince's business sense works.

viewaskew said:

Youtube IS making money off of Prince's copywritten material.

Do you think all those shareholders work for free?

This is a bidness. And you ain't too far gone to see that yet!

viewaskew said:

Do you understand the business of YouTube? Obviously not. They are successful primarily because for years they've been a source for the easy access of copyrighted material. Prince isn't the only person that out of the blue took concern with this. He's certainly also not the only person with lawsuits against them.

ButterscotchPimp said:

This is how I interpret your little rant [Name calling snip - luv4u]



But if Mr. Askew doesn't understand that, maybe he'll get this...

[Flame snip - luv4u]

Paris9748430 said:

Aww, have I touched a nerve? Truth hurts, huh? There really wasn't a need to involve ButtescotchPimp in your response, even though (s)he happens to agree with me (as do several others), but thank you for proving once again what a [Name calling snip - luv4u]
. I guess that's how the [Name calling snip - luv4u]
handle things when they can't fashion an argument that draws any sort of reason or relevance. Grow up & come back when you have something to bring to the table other than your pitiful insults & personal attacks.

Always a pleasure.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

viewaskew said:

...it's good to see that you aren't a juvenile, classless little twit who uses pitiful insults and personal attacks, viewaskew.

viewaskew said:

You're right, I'm sorry. I went too far.

I saw something on Youtube that I thought would work here. It's a little sad little emo boy playing a sad little song. I've decided to dedicate it too all the little disgruntled Prince fans on this thread who can't get something for nothing.

Anji said:

Yeah, it is.

That comment, as if it isn't obvious, was directed at Prince, who is the subject of this web site. And judging by comments on this thread & elsewhere, it's not an opinion I am alone in.

Aww, have I touched a nerve? Truth hurts, huh? There really wasn't a need to involve ButtescotchPimp in your response, even though (s)he happens to agree with me (as do several others), but thank you for proving once again what a [Name calling snip - luv4u]
. I guess that's how the [Name calling snip - luv4u]
handle things when they can't fashion an argument that draws any sort of reason or relevance. Grow up & come back when you have something to bring to the table other than your pitiful insults & personal attacks.

Always a pleasure.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

looks like this thread has lost its way...

Paris9748430 said:

Umm, if Prince had anything to offer, I'd buy it. Instead, what does he do? Hides behind lawyers, takes potshots at fans & fan sites, releases sub-standard crap, doesn't tour in his home country in what's it been now? 4 years?

I would LOVE it if Prince did a 21 night residency, or even a 2 night residency at MSG. Or the Boston Garden. Or somewhere in NJ. It'd be spectacular if he'd put out another Crystal Ball style compilation album (albeit not with shit on the level of Tell Me How U Wanna Be Done). Yet he's not likely to do that. So you & yours can go on & on about how wonderful Prince is no matter what he does. You can post your sad fantasies about how you want to put on matching sweaters & go for a walk in the mountains & not come home until you see a rainbow...you do that & I'll focus on his steady decline as a commercially successful, musically relevant artist.

sammij said:

You're right. His Royal Analness's version of Creep is reasonably easy to find online, with or without Youtube. Let the interested have at it!

viewaskew said:

Actually, I like his records from TRC to Planet Earth lots and lots more of all that junk he put out from Diamonds & Pearls up to Rave. Those were the real bleak years for me. I'll take Planet Earth over any 90s record of his anytime. Except maybe for The Gold Experience, but that record too has lots of crappy songs, whereas his 2000s records at worst have some average songs.

sammij said:

it sure has. the people who will defend anything he does, and the people who claim he's shit and ain't worth nothing,yet spend their time talking about him and following his career. If I was Prince i would be honored.

littleman said:

It's been hit or miss for me. Loved TRC, hated Musicology, loved 3121 and Planet Earth

wonder505 said:

You consider Wedding Feast "average?" On what scale? Surely you can't like that more than The Morning Papers or The Continental?