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Thread started 05/18/08 5:24pm

abigail05

isn't prince afraid of a floyd rose disaster?

I mean, when floyd rose whammy bars were the coolest guitar accessory known to man (hair metal music, 1989!), breaking a string while using one was tantamount to disaster - the entire guitar would go completely out of tune.

Maybe the technology has changed since then, I don't know.

Any floyd users out there?
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Reply #1 posted 05/18/08 6:00pm

Dayclear

(crickets chirpping)
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Reply #2 posted 05/18/08 8:32pm

superkiss

oh abigail its too late for fear darling the wrath of god is already here! heart
my innocence raped my trust betrayed my mind deceived my heart in smitherines and u've got the gall to breathe.
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Reply #3 posted 05/18/08 8:51pm

DerekH

abigail05 said:

I mean, when floyd rose whammy bars were the coolest guitar accessory known to man (hair metal music, 1989!), breaking a string while using one was tantamount to disaster - the entire guitar would go completely out of tune.

Maybe the technology has changed since then, I don't know.

Any floyd users out there?


I used to have a Kramer guitar that had a Floyd Rose. It was good for doing "dive bombs" and other string-bending sound effects, but yes, it WOULD knock all the strings out of tune if one of them broke.

The Floyd is still used on a lot of different guitars, and I think it'll still make a guitar go out of tune if a string breaks.

Now I have Fender Strats with the regular Fender tremolo (whammy bar). I can't do the same dive effects as on a Floyd, but it still works for other bending sounds.
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Reply #4 posted 05/18/08 11:14pm

mirrorbestfrie
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prince too skinny to break a string!
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Reply #5 posted 05/21/08 4:14pm

carlcranshaw

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Prince has special powers.

He can roller skate and play guitar.

He can throw guitars and you never see a dent in them. (Stewie voice: "Too bad that doesn't work with his girlfriends!")

From what I see he doesn't do Steve Vai stuff with the bar so he should be OK.

Plus the man has backup guitars.

I've seen him break strings on the white guitar with the bar across and either his tech would take it or whoever else was on guitar would solo.
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #6 posted 05/21/08 4:26pm

NDRU

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Using any tremelo runs that risk. It worked okay for Jimi & Stevie Ray, Steve Vai, Eddie and on and on.

Plus Prince never plays a song for more than ten seconds, then he tosses the guitar to his tech. So no need to worry. lol

I have mine blocked, tho. I am always breaking strings.
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Reply #7 posted 05/21/08 4:26pm

TonyWilliams

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I think you worry too much. As far as that category - i am very experienced.
So trust me.
Love...thy will b done
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Reply #8 posted 05/21/08 4:33pm

ThreadBare

I wonder about that, too. His tech probably keeps an eye on such details, between songs. He also lessons a lot of that by swapping out with the Hohner.

Were it to happen during a solo, he probably would fake and improvise with hammer-ons, dive-bombs and such, until the song ended.

How I miss the Clouds and their PR tone...
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Reply #9 posted 05/21/08 6:34pm

nurseV

Dayclear said:

(crickets chirpping)



eek falloff
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Reply #10 posted 05/22/08 3:44pm

abigail05

you all have set my mind at ease. Thank you.

I still think the floyd is pretty passe, but maybe that justs makes it cooler for Prince - what is uncool is very cool.
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Reply #11 posted 05/22/08 3:49pm

NDRU

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abigail05 said:

you all have set my mind at ease. Thank you.

I still think the floyd is pretty passe, but maybe that justs makes it cooler for Prince - what is uncool is very cool.


You're right that they're out of fashion, but the tuning issue isn't unique to them
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Reply #12 posted 05/23/08 2:48am

SPYZFAN1

Floyds are the same in 2008 as they were in 1988. I don't really use them anymore and I really don't like P using them. His natural vibrato is killer.

I better keep my mouth shut because the last time I voiced my opinion on P using Floyds a certain orger came after me with a vengence. wink
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Reply #13 posted 05/23/08 4:33am

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Floyds are the same in 2008 as they were in 1988. I don't really use them anymore and I really don't like P using them. His natural vibrato is killer.

I better keep my mouth shut because the last time I voiced my opinion on P using Floyds a certain orger came after me with a vengence. wink

floyds make habibi talk
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Reply #14 posted 05/23/08 5:37am

Volitan

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I think he uses them as a crutch and as an attention-getter. And it's not just him, most times at a show you can just play a whole solo on the thing and all the non-musicians in the audience go "OOOOO cool"
Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together
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Reply #15 posted 05/23/08 6:06am

Giovanni777

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Excellent topic, and NDRU nailed it.

This potential problem exists with most tremolo bars.

I can't stand Floyd Rose systems, and would never use a locking nut.

Actually, I don't use tremolo bars on any of my guitars, although I do like Prince's use of one. He's not lessening his left hand vibrato by 2 much... he's really just mostly bending up or down as one would slide up and down the neck.
"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #16 posted 05/23/08 8:44am

abigail05

To my tastes, the Floyd Rose just look like overkill. I don't know how well they perform but I would have opted for a Wilkinson, or just gone with the standard Fender setup. Floyds just scream "Dokken" to me.
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Reply #17 posted 05/23/08 9:21am

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Prince's natural playing and vibrato are better than his Floyd playing. (IMHO)

Every time he stops and uses the Floyd it's actually distracting like "Hey look at my new toy."

Nowadays you can use a bar with locking tuners and a good bridge without the headaches of a Floyd.

[Edited 5/23/08 9:22am]
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Reply #18 posted 05/23/08 2:48pm

SPYZFAN1

"floyds make habibi talk"

...Maybe so but P made his guitar cry in the song "Purple Rain". No Floyd there.
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Reply #19 posted 05/23/08 4:45pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

"floyds make habibi talk"

...Maybe so but P made his guitar cry in the song "Purple Rain". No Floyd there.

but he didnt play no fast notes
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Reply #20 posted 05/24/08 11:38am

NDRU

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mirrorbestfriend said:

SPYZFAN1 said:

"floyds make habibi talk"

...Maybe so but P made his guitar cry in the song "Purple Rain". No Floyd there.

but he didnt play no fast notes


Does a Floyd Rose help you play faster? confuse
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Reply #21 posted 05/24/08 1:05pm

SPYZFAN1

A Floyd does not make you play faster. And there's plenty of bootlegs where P is shredding on "Purple Rain" from the late 80's and 90's where there's no Floyds on his axe.
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