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Printable L4OATheOriginal said: i will not get my hopes up 2 much since the same was said about tamar's album being in stores..only 2 wind up elsewhere
i'm just hoping that he releases a new album of new material 2 get that taste out of my mouth called PE 
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Obsidian said: MattyJam said: How widely available is this book/cd going to be?
I read somewhere that it will be international! still no listing from australian distributors (im assuming its Simon & Schuster) ive been ringing them weekly from work
i ordered thief in the temple from O/S- then it was released here (cheaper) a few mths later 
but i dont want to miss out on this one 
does any one know if the us edition is different to the uk? [Edited 5/8/08 2:16am] seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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prb said: Obsidian said: I read somewhere that it will be international! still no listing from australian distributors (im assuming its Simon & Schuster) ive been ringing them weekly from work
i ordered thief in the temple from O/S- then it was released here (cheaper) a few mths later
but i dont want to miss out on this one
does any one know if the us edition is different to the uk? [Edited 5/8/08 2:16am] Don worry Prb....Im sure we will get it somewhere. If not JB Hi_Fi there is that other music store that imports stuff for me all the time. I'll ask them PRINCE IS WATCHING U  " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
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suomynona said: As for the DVD/CD rumors, I'll believe it when you can pre-order at Amazon. Folks need to not get their hopes up until then, period.
That said, here's hoping any DVD release will look better than the AWFUL Live At The Aladdin. Otherwise, why bother? I'm with you. This pre-order for the 21 Nights book/CD is way too far in the future to not get pulled at the last minute due to "manufacturing issues". I'll wait till it's closer to the release date to pre-order. Remember that Prince wanted 100,000 pre-orders on Crystal Ball before he would press them. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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squirrelgrease said: suomynona said: As for the DVD/CD rumors, I'll believe it when you can pre-order at Amazon. Folks need to not get their hopes up until then, period.
That said, here's hoping any DVD release will look better than the AWFUL Live At The Aladdin. Otherwise, why bother? I'm with you. This pre-order for the 21 Nights book/CD is way too far in the future to not get pulled at the last minute due to "manufacturing issues". I'll wait till it's closer to the release date to pre-order. Remember that Prince wanted 100,000 pre-orders on Crystal Ball before he would press them. Except that he isn't "pressing" this himself. He has a deal with a publisher. A huge, well-known publisher. I think that increases the chances of it happening exponentially. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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prb said: L4OATheOriginal said: i will not get my hopes up 2 much since the same was said about tamar's album being in stores..only 2 wind up elsewhere
i'm just hoping that he releases a new album of new material 2 get that taste out of my mouth called PE
that just cost u a night   man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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chillichocaholic said: prb said: still no listing from australian distributors (im assuming its Simon & Schuster) ive been ringing them weekly from work
i ordered thief in the temple from O/S- then it was released here (cheaper) a few mths later
but i dont want to miss out on this one
does any one know if the us edition is different to the uk? [Edited 5/8/08 2:16am] Don worry Prb....Im sure we will get it somewhere. If not JB Hi_Fi there is that other music store that imports stuff for me all the time. I'll ask them thx chilli-  but i can actually import it at work- its on our american dist. website  seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: prb said:
that just cost u a night bloody hell
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Genesia said: squirrelgrease said: I'm with you. This pre-order for the 21 Nights book/CD is way too far in the future to not get pulled at the last minute due to "manufacturing issues". I'll wait till it's closer to the release date to pre-order. Remember that Prince wanted 100,000 pre-orders on Crystal Ball before he would press them. Except that he isn't "pressing" this himself. He has a deal with a publisher. A huge, well-known publisher. I think that increases the chances of it happening exponentially. It'll happen! Definitely!  | |
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That's not for certain. Cd's have been quite stable in recent years, while music dvd's had a boom a few years ago but have dropped drastically since! You won't find many new music dvd releases anymore. Not from where I'm standing. Everyone's putting out live DVDs. The record shops may not be stocking them all, but they're available. And I'm not really sorry. If I want music, I put on a record, not the tv! I should mention that I produce concert DVDs for a living... It's interesting at the moment, but concert DVDs sell very well to fans - better than live CDs I suspect - and importantly, earn great margins for the artist, especially if sold direct instead of through a label/distributor. Many of the bands we work with make the majority of their income every year thru DVD sales and concert tickets. Making money on CD sales is much harder these days (due to piracy, online pricing, distribution, discounting, etc). Of course, Prince can do whatever he likes. I only hope that the audio for this rumoured CD is better than the mix of Chaos & Disorder from the Indigo that was featured on 3121. Getting awesome-sounding live recordings isn't difficult or expensive (you just employ the right people), so there's not really any excuse. In fact, I was at the Indigo a few weeks ago recording a DVD for an artist, and had an interesting conversation regarding the Prince aftershows (which I loved by the way). By all accounts there were plans to film... then plans were shelved. A shame, because despite his filming quite a few shows, there have been only two live DVDs by our man in recent years (and in my view, neither of them is particularly stellar... although I do enjoy the Aladdin show). If he'd like to set up those London dates this autumn, and wants to film them, I know great people! e.g. www.digforfire.tv | |
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popelife said: That's not for certain. Cd's have been quite stable in recent years, while music dvd's had a boom a few years ago but have dropped drastically since! You won't find many new music dvd releases anymore. Not from where I'm standing. Everyone's putting out live DVDs. The record shops may not be stocking them all, but they're available. And I'm not really sorry. If I want music, I put on a record, not the tv! I should mention that I produce concert DVDs for a living... It's interesting at the moment, but concert DVDs sell very well to fans - better than live CDs I suspect - and importantly, earn great margins for the artist, especially if sold direct instead of through a label/distributor. Many of the bands we work with make the majority of their income every year thru DVD sales and concert tickets. Making money on CD sales is much harder these days (due to piracy, online pricing, distribution, discounting, etc). Of course, Prince can do whatever he likes. I only hope that the audio for this rumoured CD is better than the mix of Chaos & Disorder from the Indigo that was featured on 3121. Getting awesome-sounding live recordings isn't difficult or expensive (you just employ the right people), so there's not really any excuse. In fact, I was at the Indigo a few weeks ago recording a DVD for an artist, and had an interesting conversation regarding the Prince aftershows (which I loved by the way). By all accounts there were plans to film... then plans were shelved. A shame, because despite his filming quite a few shows, there have been only two live DVDs by our man in recent years (and in my view, neither of them is particularly stellar... although I do enjoy the Aladdin show). If he'd like to set up those London dates this autumn, and wants to film them, I know great people! e.g. www.digforfire.tv Thanks for the nice write-up! @ 'for a living'. I hope I didn't offend you.  I work in a music-shop and I see numbers indicating the music-dvd share is dropping. I do believe there is a market for it, like you mentioned, when the artist keeps it independent. Via the shops is probably too expensive and not enough demand.
About the income of a band. Isn't it strange that only a few years back a tour was to promote a new album. Nowadays it seems the other way around. Get a record out, get it played on the radio, so you can make some money on the road. .sp. [Edited 5/8/08 16:52pm] | |
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i actually prefer to watch DVD's of live music then to listen to a live CD. More than 1/2 the experience of a live show is the performance, especially with an artist like Prince. If you can't see him performing live you're missing out!!
His lack of live concerts available to watch on DVD or in ANY format (youtube, promotional videos, etc.) is more than disappointing for fans it's a great loss historically, as he is one of the best (or THE best) performers ANY generation has ever seen live. I have Shakira's newest live DVD, and it ROCKS! I watch a live concert DVD almost every night...Hello! Project concerts mainly, but I would watch Prince more if I could...sad, just sad. Purplehead | |
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popelife said: That's not for certain. Cd's have been quite stable in recent years, while music dvd's had a boom a few years ago but have dropped drastically since! You won't find many new music dvd releases anymore. Not from where I'm standing. Everyone's putting out live DVDs. The record shops may not be stocking them all, but they're available. And I'm not really sorry. If I want music, I put on a record, not the tv! I should mention that I produce concert DVDs for a living... It's interesting at the moment, but concert DVDs sell very well to fans - better than live CDs I suspect - and importantly, earn great margins for the artist, especially if sold direct instead of through a label/distributor. Many of the bands we work with make the majority of their income every year thru DVD sales and concert tickets. Making money on CD sales is much harder these days (due to piracy, online pricing, distribution, discounting, etc). Of course, Prince can do whatever he likes. I only hope that the audio for this rumoured CD is better than the mix of Chaos & Disorder from the Indigo that was featured on 3121. Getting awesome-sounding live recordings isn't difficult or expensive (you just employ the right people), so there's not really any excuse. In fact, I was at the Indigo a few weeks ago recording a DVD for an artist, and had an interesting conversation regarding the Prince aftershows (which I loved by the way). By all accounts there were plans to film... then plans were shelved. A shame, because despite his filming quite a few shows, there have been only two live DVDs by our man in recent years (and in my view, neither of them is particularly stellar... although I do enjoy the Aladdin show). If he'd like to set up those London dates this autumn, and wants to film them, I know great people! e.g. www.digforfire.tv Good points. And its crazy that my favorite Prince concert video, TO THIS DAY, is Purple Rain Live on VHS... A complete show with superb audio/video -- not rocket science folks. | |
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I emailed amazon.co.uk and asked if they could confirm that the book I had pre-ordered previously titled 21 Nights and now untitled and at a reduced rate was indeed the same book as that on offer on Amazon.com, this is their reply.
Dear Customer Thank you for contacting Amazon.co.uk with your enquiry. On checking with our website, we can confirm that this item "21 Nights" is not yet released. Since the item is not yet released, we are unable to provide any further information. In this case, we kindly request you to contact us, once the item is released, then we will be able to proceed further. 
they checked their website? to see it was not in stock? huh? I guess a robot picked up my email! walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Is it me, or does Bria Valente seem like yet another one in the line of 'pretty women' (Vanity, Appolonia, Carmen Electra, Mayte...) who actually can't sing, but who somehow give Prince the feeling he needs to promote them?
Like love is blind but in his case deaf... lol. Nothing against her shes a very pretty lady, but someone like Shelby has a stronger voice and deserves his support more. | |
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Sander said: Thanks for the nice write-up! @ 'for a living'. I hope I didn't offend you. I work in a music-shop and I see numbers indicating the music-dvd share is dropping.
Interesting... Music DVD's share of what has been dropping?... total DVD sales? (e.g. movies, TV shows)? (I can well believe that). Or compared to Music DVD sales last year? Or relative to CD sales? I can't imagine anything's dropping quite as fast as CD sales! I do believe there is a market for it, like you mentioned, when the artist keeps it independent. Via the shops is probably too expensive and not enough demand. There's definitely a nice predictable market for concert DVDs. It is a fan thing though... for instance Black Eyed Peas could sell hundreds of thousands of CDs to casual listeners, but I would bet would have a harder time selling live DVDs. But if you have a big committed fan base like Prince does, it's pretty easy to sell boat-loads of DVDs, and the production costs aren't as sky high as people imagine. Most bands would say, if there's a profit to be made, it's worth doing. Fans will always buy a live DVD as well as a studio album, it's not as if sales of one cannibalise sales of the other. I agree, in this day and age it doesn't seem entirely necessary to sell via shops. Funny, because Prince was way ahead of the game with that idea (and being an independent artist, is perfectly placed to take advantage of it), and has seemed to have dropped online sales just as everyone else is embracing it. Worth remembering that live DVDs don't get the promotion that albums do, and that might translate into smaller sales. There's way more of a fanfare when a new studio album comes out, and every time you hear a song on the radio or MTV it works as promotion for the album. How do you ever hear about a concert DVD? About the income of a band. Isn't it strange that only a few years back a tour was to promote a new album. Nowadays it seems the other way around. Get a record out, get it played on the radio, so you can make some money on the road. It is strange. I'm not sure if it's a bad thing or a good thing. Increased interest in live music good. The devaluing of recorded music, bad. When you get to the point of having to give away your new album, it does worry me (e.g. Prince, Radiohead, NIN...) Ease of recording and releasing your own music and the resulting disposability of new artists... has good and bad sides to it. On balance though, I think it's a pretty exciting time for music, in the UK at least. Anyway, come on Prince, it's way past time there was a truly great live DVD from you. PS zero offence taken. | |
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Tame said: That is great..I hope it comes out in June.
  hope it comes out now! You're just a sinner I am told
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Make u happy when you're sad
Make u good when u are bad
I'm not a human
I am a dove
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VenusBlingBling said: 
Where is this picture from? Im so exited!  | |
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cant wait to get this book | |
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Is it only available in the UK? Lemme | |
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VenusBlingBling said: Our sources are telling us that Prince has been in L.A. putting the finishing touches on several upcoming projects;
A LIVE CD to be included in his first book entitled 21 Nights A Photo Essay, by Randee St. Nicholas.... A DVD of his recent COACHELLA stint is in the works as well as a duet with Bria Valente on her upcoming CD.....Word has it the song will cause pregnancy after one listen. Let's see how much of this actually gets released. And if it's any good. © Bart Van Hemelen
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It would be great if Prince released a Coachella DVD
It was an amazing concert, for fans and non-fans Even I loved to hear the hits there (and I am tired of the hits) |
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L4OATheOriginal said: 2020 said: Oh come on peeps - we've lived through far worse CD's in his career i would b curious 2 find out which one u think is even worse than this one.. After one listen, I told my friends it was the worst album Prince has released. It should have been a Planet Earth EP, or even better just the single. There are about 4 or 4.5 songs on there among a lot of throwaway filler. I'm feeling generous today. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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4bjb said: Is it only available in the UK?
Just watch. I bet copies will turn up on ebay. 
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moderatorOh yeah, great... why release a live DVD when you can just release a live photo book plus live cd instead!  | |
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we're all holding our breath...
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syble said:[quote]If you google her she has her own model pages and she is listed as 6'2"
Way too tall for Princes usual! However she has that look from recent years, hispanic looking and hes changed her name. She must be the 'beauty' thats been reported with him and yet no name released which is odd. I think shes just another chelsea rodgers, a model whose become a muse for him, p like designers do except they are mostly gay and therefore choose comletely unreal women that are exceedingly tall and angular - oops did i just say that! Some things never change, and Prince and his women are one of them.....it's the same old, same old where they are concerned! | |
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