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New topic PrintableL4OATheOriginal said: in the original song of creep, the chrous isn't screamed ..so y does prince have 2 scream?
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sosgemini said: MsLegs said: Sos, I see your point about song integrity. But in fairness, until I hear it, I need to see if if the minor alteration in lyrics changes the flow of the song drastically. minor? those changes aren't minor. What's wrong with you people??? He din't ruin anything, artists cover other artists live all the time, they change words, put their own perspectives in songs, that's the whole point of covers, to make it different, to add something else. When you sing live it's about how you connect with the audience, feel the moment, this isn't like Prince recorded this song and put it out there like an ipod comercial and took it to the top of the charts, this is about that Coachella night, that saturday night in the desert, he made all those people realize that this song, Creep, could be as meaningful to him as to them, that there is a real connection of Rock music to the Soul, a true message that in art there are no boundaries, it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, it doesn't matter if you like underground music or commercial pop, that night was to have fun, together as human beings. "I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ | |
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sosgemini said: emilia1 said: actually...he didnt say "creep" or "weirdo" at all and of course when the part "your so fuckin special" came on he said somethin like "youre all very special" in other words, he ruined the lyric. :disrespect: has this man forgotten the importance of the lyric? he used to be a master at it...wtf is going on? What's wrong with you people??? He din't ruin anything, artists cover other artists live all the time, they change words, put their own perspectives in songs, that's the whole point of covers, to make it different, to add something else. When you sing live it's about how you connect with the audience, feel the moment, this isn't like Prince recorded this song and put it out there like an ipod comercial and took it to the top of the charts, this is about that Coachella night, that saturday night in the desert, he made all those people realize that this song, Creep, could be as meaningful to him as to them, that there is a real connection of Rock music to the Soul, a true message that in art there are no boundaries, it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, it doesn't matter if you like underground music or commercial pop, that night was to have fun, together as human beings. "I have so much love for Prince. But why don't they look at me that way"- MJ | |
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sosgemini said: MsLegs said: Sos, I see your point about song integrity. But in fairness, until I hear it, I need to see if if the minor alteration in lyrics changes the flow of the song drastically. minor? those changes aren't minor. Lyrically yes. Now, if I could only hear the song. But, since my sound card was knocked out by an hacker, I can't hear it. Oh well. | |
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Graycap23 said: L4OATheOriginal said: in the original song of creep, the chrous isn't screamed ..so y does prince have 2 scream?
Hummm..... Oh, people didn't like the screaming? I REALLY liked the screaming. This is one of the reasons why the cover worked for me - just made it his own song. And I'm saying this as someone who LOVES the original. But for me the screaming was | |
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aarontj said: sosgemini said: in other words, he ruined the lyric. :disrespect: has this man forgotten the importance of the lyric? he used to be a master at it...wtf is going on? What's wrong with you people??? He din't ruin anything, artists cover other artists live all the time, they change words, put their own perspectives in songs, that's the whole point of covers, to make it different, to add something else. When you sing live it's about how you connect with the audience, feel the moment, this isn't like Prince recorded this song and put it out there like an ipod comercial and took it to the top of the charts, this is about that Coachella night, that saturday night in the desert, he made all those people realize that this song, Creep, could be as meaningful to him as to them, that there is a real connection of Rock music to the Soul, a true message that in art there are no boundaries, it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, it doesn't matter if you like underground music or commercial pop, that night was to have fun, together as human beings. and he did it by acknowledging he didn't "get" the original lyric? sorry, there aint nothing wrong with anyone here...not even you...we are all free to our own opinion and free to share them here on this site. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: aarontj said: What's wrong with you people??? He din't ruin anything, artists cover other artists live all the time, they change words, put their own perspectives in songs, that's the whole point of covers, to make it different, to add something else. When you sing live it's about how you connect with the audience, feel the moment, this isn't like Prince recorded this song and put it out there like an ipod comercial and took it to the top of the charts, this is about that Coachella night, that saturday night in the desert, he made all those people realize that this song, Creep, could be as meaningful to him as to them, that there is a real connection of Rock music to the Soul, a true message that in art there are no boundaries, it doesn't matter who you are or where you come from, it doesn't matter if you like underground music or commercial pop, that night was to have fun, together as human beings. and he did it by acknowledging he didn't "get" the original lyric? sorry, there aint nothing wrong with anyone here...not even you...we are all free to our own opinion and free to share them here on this site. Exactly. | |
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simm0061 said: Graycap23 said: Hummm..... Oh, people didn't like the screaming? I REALLY liked the screaming. This is one of the reasons why the cover worked for me - just made it his own song. And I'm saying this as someone who LOVES the original. But for me the screaming was Some people u can please Some people like it rough Some people u can't tease 2 much.....is never enough | |
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i walked into the office this morning and overheard people talking about their trip to coachella.
and then i heard " did you see Prince" and the reply was " oh my god, he rocked it". so of course, i had to jump in and ask a million questions. The girl who is early 20's said she couldnt believe how great he was and that the crowd was enormous (by far the biggest for any of the artists) and that people were really into. such a nice way to walk into work on a Monday.... OH: and she said that 'Creep' was incredible. | |
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MsLegs said: sosgemini said: and he did it by acknowledging he didn't "get" the original lyric? sorry, there aint nothing wrong with anyone here...not even you...we are all free to our own opinion and free to share them here on this site. Exactly. group hug don't touch my hair! | |
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scrambledeggsaresoboring said: i walked into the office this morning and overheard people talking about their trip to coachella.
and then i heard " did you see Prince" and the reply was " oh my god, he rocked it". so of course, i had to jump in and ask a million questions. The girl who is early 20's said she couldnt believe how great he was and that the crowd was enormous (by far the biggest for any of the artists) and that people were really into. such a nice way to walk into work on a Monday.... OH: and she said that 'Creep' was incredible. RIP, mom. I will forever miss and love you. | |
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sosgemini said: RenHoek said: Everybody is going to love it or hate it or fall somewhere in between.
I loved it, I liked the lyric change because with that, he made it a little bit his own while not detracting from the fact that he's paying some form of homage to Yorke & Co. That's what's great about covers, you can do what you like with them without causing too much damage (unless you really eff it up, which Prince is not likely to do...) I sooo wish I could've been there live, but for now the tube will have to do until the Sheriff breaks up the party and sends us all back to our cubicles. From what I've been able to see, 5 of 5 stars. he f*ed it up with his cover of Bonnie Raitt's I Can't Make You Love Me. but your right, he does try to put his own spin on these covers but you can't do that at the expense of the lyric...especially if the changes make you look as if you don't understand the meaning of the words in the first place. a spin that did work IMHO: Joan Osborne's One Of Us Ya know Sosgemini, I totally respect your opinion and here's why. Musical NOOB that I may be (well, I actually don't ever listen to Bonnie Raitt but..) I never, ever knew that "I Can't Make You Love Me" was hers. So I tubed it up and gave it a listen. Beautiful song, very nice, Raitt is still not my thing tho'. I listened to the trax back to back, Raitt first. I still prefer Prince's version and it's not because I'm a fan (w/ an n). I think the main reason is that it is one of the few tracks off Emancipation that is bearable (along with White Mansion and a very few others for a 3CD set!). I also really like the musical composition he resorted to, I like the Sitar and the overall softness that is felt. Fine, the whole "bedroom slash church" bit is a little too much, but hey, he's a freak. not you're totally on point about "One of Us" too... A working class Hero is something to be ~ Lennon | |
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WOW, HE LOOKS FUCKING GREAT!!!! DID THEY TOUCH UP THESE PICS?? MAYBE HE LOST A LITTLE WINTER WEIGHT? WOW!
serpan99 said: Cheers erupt as Prince takes Coachella stage 11:36 PM PDT on Saturday, April 26, 2008 By VANESSA FRANKO The Press-Enterprise http://www.pe.com/reports...4b4e2.html When Prince stepped onto the stage, everyone in the packed audience at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival knew they were witnessing Coachella history, and the crowd erupted into applause and cheers accordingly. The stage was filled with fog as he took it, about 25 minutes late, dressed in a flowing white suit. Festival promoter Paul Tollett said he has been wanting to get Prince to play the festival for years. At one point, Sheila E joined Prince on stage and sang her hit, "Glamourous Life." After 20 minutes of a Morris Day and Sheila E. reunion with Prince on the guitar, he launched into 1999. Prince plays Coachella, covers Radiohead!!! By JAKE COYLE http://ap.google.com/arti...wD90A3MIG0 INDIO, Calif. (AP) — "Coachella, I am here." Prince hit the stage at the Coachella Valley Music and Arts Festival with that announcement, heralding his arrival as the much-anticipated headliner of the summer festival. Shortly after 11 p.m. Saturday, Prince strutted onto the stage wearing white pants and a white shirt with glittery fringe. His performance, the centerpiece of the three-day festival, was announced only two weeks ago, immediately making an already very hip festival of 125-plus bands significantly more in-demand. And Prince knew it. "You are the coolest place on earth right now!" Prince declared to a sea of tens of thousands. Prince, who had been sought out to perform at Coachella since the festival was founded nine years ago, told the crowd that when he agreed to perform, he informed the organizers that he would not only play, but party too. True to his word, Prince then launched his band — complete with a horn section and background singers — into "Jungle Love." Morris Day came out to sing his song, while Prince strolled around the stage with his guitar. For the beginning of the show, Prince preferred to let his guitar do the talking. He also welcomed the singer and drummer Sheila E, who took the lead for a song and then joined Prince in an extended jam. Finally, Prince satisfied the crowd with a celebratory performance of "1999." His classic "Little Red Corvette" soon followed. One of the big surprises of Prince's concert was his cover of Radiohead's "Creep," which was sure to be one of Coachella's most talked-about performances. With some lyrics adjusted, a ripping guitar solo and extended falsetto crooning for a finale, Prince's "Creep" had the crowd slack-jawed. To close the set, he gave another unique take on a song not his own: the Beatles' "Come Together." He urged the audience — whom he called his "choir" — to sing "Come together, yeah" over and over. And just as trepidation was beginning to take hold in the crowd that Prince might actually leave without playing "Purple Rain," he returned to confirm that even in the desert, it could rain purple. Even after the encore, though, he came back for more. "They're telling me that we got to go, but I can't leave!" Prince shouted. He then flew through a torrid version of "Let's Go Crazy." Prince had widely been considered the one act most all concertgoers — a diverse 60,000 of indie rockers, electronica dancers and pop fans — were certain to see. And by the end of "Let's Go Crazy," Prince had seemed to put his stamp on Coachella lore. "From now on, this is Prince's house," he shouted before triumphantly strutting off stage and tossing his guitar 30 feet behind him. [Edited 4/27/08 12:52pm] [Edited 4/27/08 13:03pm] | |
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did he forget to put eyeliner on his right (our left) eyelid?? | |
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BlackAdder7 said: did he forget to put eyeliner on his right (our left) eyelid?? well he sure didn't forget foundation and blusher I really like that piece of jewellery around that neck of his | |
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sosgemini said: RenHoek said: Everybody is going to love it or hate it or fall somewhere in between.
I loved it, I liked the lyric change because with that, he made it a little bit his own while not detracting from the fact that he's paying some form of homage to Yorke & Co. That's what's great about covers, you can do what you like with them without causing too much damage (unless you really eff it up, which Prince is not likely to do...) I sooo wish I could've been there live, but for now the tube will have to do until the Sheriff breaks up the party and sends us all back to our cubicles. From what I've been able to see, 5 of 5 stars. he f*ed it up with his cover of Bonnie Raitt's I Can't Make You Love Me. but your right, he does try to put his own spin on these covers but you can't do that at the expense of the lyric...especially if the changes make you look as if you don't understand the meaning of the words in the first place. a spin that did work IMHO: Joan Osborne's One Of Us Wasn't one of us written by someone else?...the hooters i think | |
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emilia1 said: Heiress said: That is pretty hilarious, the thought of Prince singing "I'm a creep, I'm a weirdo..." actually...he didnt say "creep" or "weirdo" at all and of course when the part "your so fuckin special" came on he said somethin like "youre all very special" He didn't say "creep?" That's a bit strange. I for one couldn't care less if he changes stuff, but Creep is the title of the song after all. My Legacy
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CJanssen said: veronikka said: Love that face he makes while playing guitar
Makes you think of something else, doesn't it? I call that the "wicked tinkle" face. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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As much as I love Radiohead; I always thought the lyrics to Creep were a bit angsty teenager...dare I say it, a bit banal. I love Mr Yorke, but i wouldn't consider those particular lyrics as sacred! | |
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People talk about Prince playing it safe or being predictible. I never in a million years would've expected him to cover 'Creep' and having watched the clip, I thought he did an amazing job. It certainly wasn't a faithful cover he flipped it into his own thing.
I was amazed at his version of Little Red Corvette! Has he EVER played the solo for that? Seriously he always left it for Dez or Wendy or Miko or he didn't play it at all. Lucky bastards! | |
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cloudguitar said: As much as I love Radiohead; I always thought the lyrics to Creep were a bit angsty teenager...dare I say it, a bit banal. I love Mr Yorke, but i wouldn't consider those particular lyrics as sacred!
which IMHO is the whole point of the song...by changing the lyrics he changed the naivety/immaturity of the song which is it's genius. i never for a second thought that York was being sincere with the lyrics. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: cloudguitar said: As much as I love Radiohead; I always thought the lyrics to Creep were a bit angsty teenager...dare I say it, a bit banal. I love Mr Yorke, but i wouldn't consider those particular lyrics as sacred!
which IMHO is the whole point of the song...by changing the lyrics he changed the naivety/immaturity of the song which is it's genius. i never for a second thought that York was being sincere with the lyrics. your right, the lyrics are ironic I can't believe i typed the last comment actually...having said that, it's been a while since i last listened to it...probably about ten years infact! | |
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I've watched it about 10 times in a row now and all I can say is ....wow. I think he sounds exceptional and I'm sure being there made it all the more...wow. Pleae don't pull it from the net. | |
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i wanna hear prince cover luther vandross or stevie wonder;s "creep" ... [Edited 4/28/08 15:20pm] | |
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I just watched "Creep by Prince" I got RadioHead's lyrics alot easier than Prince's....I thought he wanted to clarify the meaning to something understandable....I don't "get" his lyrics.....I'd think more of the man if he had the (you know whats) to say the real lyrics....show how humble the man can be.....instead just more confusion on my part....but I'll keep the beautiful voice he uses to make those sounds that are so very close to the Purple Rain part (I think you called it Falsetto?) That was awesome!!!! | |
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mynameisnotsusan said: People talk about Prince playing it safe or being predictible. I never in a million years would've expected him to cover 'Creep' and having watched the clip, I thought he did an amazing job. It certainly wasn't a faithful cover he flipped it into his own thing.
I was amazed at his version of Little Red Corvette! Has he EVER played the solo for that? Seriously he always left it for Dez or Wendy or Miko or he didn't play it at all. Lucky bastards! Yep, that was incredible!!! | |
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PRINCE, PLEASE RELEASE A DVD THIS TIME! | |
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I was going to say something right after Prince's Jay Leno song that aired. Now I hear it again....it may be my computer speakers but I hear a whole lota Paul McCartney (Beatles) going on....the slightest english accent...Then I thought it funny to have him do a Beatles tune at the Festival....it may be just me. | |
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RenHoek said: Ya know Sosgemini, I totally respect your opinion and here's why. Musical NOOB that I may be (well, I actually don't ever listen to Bonnie Raitt but..) I never, ever knew that "I Can't Make You Love Me" was hers. So I tubed it up and gave it a listen. Beautiful song, very nice, Raitt is still not my thing tho'.
I listened to the trax back to back, Raitt first. I still prefer Prince's version and it's not because I'm a fan (w/ an n). I think the main reason is that it is one of the few tracks off Emancipation that is bearable (along with White Mansion and a very few others for a 3CD set!). I also really like the musical composition he resorted to, I like the Sitar and the overall softness that is felt. Fine, the whole "bedroom slash church" bit is a little too much, but hey, he's a freak. Have you listened to George Michael's version? I prefer that one the most. I really don't like it when Prince covers songs. I can probably count on one hand the number of his I prefer. Hated all those f*ckin' covers on Ecrapcipation (hated that album), totally not feelin' Creep (granted, I dislike the Radiohead version too). I do prefer Prince's A Case of U to Joni's but that's about the only one. I'm with SOS, I think a lot of times when he does covers he completely misses the 'spirit' of the originals--whether it be lyric wise, phrasing, or something else. . [Edited 4/28/08 16:13pm] | |
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