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Thread started 10/28/02 12:44pm

Jonfun

StarFish & Coffee Help?????

Is there some hidden message about starfish and coffee if so can some 1 help me.

I think there is a hidden meaning
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Reply #1 posted 10/28/02 12:46pm

waterhead

Yes. Play it backwards. You'll see.
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Reply #2 posted 10/28/02 12:49pm

BorisFishpaw

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There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.
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Reply #3 posted 10/28/02 5:52pm

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

BorisFishpaw said:

There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.



i have been listening to starfish over and over and i just don't get that. please explain this take to me. thanks.
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Reply #4 posted 10/28/02 7:19pm

TheBluePrince

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BorisFishpaw said:

There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.


Yup, that's what I get out of it as well...

Blue
Blue music
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Reply #5 posted 10/29/02 12:50am

BorisFishpaw

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imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

BorisFishpaw said:

There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.



i have been listening to starfish over and over and i just don't get that. please explain this take to me. thanks.


It's not obvious from the lyrics that Cynthia is retarded, but Prince himself explained that that was what the song was about. The fact that Cynthia was a special needs child isn't important to the message of the song, the important thing is that she's 'different'.

Here's the lyrics...

It was 7:45 we were all in line
2 greet the teacher Miss Cathleen
First was Kevin, then came Lucy,
third in line was me
All of us where ordinary compared to Cynthia Rose
She always stood at the back of the line
A smile beneath her nose
Her favorite number was 20 and every single day
If U asked her what she had 4 breakfast
This is what she'd say

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Cynthia wore the prettiest dress
With different color socks
Sometimes I wondered
if the mates where in her lunchbox
Me and Lucy opened it when Cynthia wasn't around
Lucy cried, I almost died,
U know what we found?

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, honey
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Starfish and coffee
Cynthia had a happy face,
just like the one she'd draw
On every wall in every school
But it's all right, it's 4 a worthy cause
Go on, Cynthia, keep singin'

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
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Reply #6 posted 10/29/02 1:08am

bkk1981

BorisFishpaw said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

BorisFishpaw said:

There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.



i have been listening to starfish over and over and i just don't get that. please explain this take to me. thanks.


It's not obvious from the lyrics that Cynthia is retarded, but Prince himself explained that that was what the song was about. The fact that Cynthia was a special needs child isn't important to the message of the song, the important thing is that she's 'different'.

Here's the lyrics...

It was 7:45 we were all in line
2 greet the teacher Miss Cathleen
First was Kevin, then came Lucy,
third in line was me
All of us where ordinary compared to Cynthia Rose
She always stood at the back of the line
A smile beneath her nose
Her favorite number was 20 and every single day
If U asked her what she had 4 breakfast
This is what she'd say

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Cynthia wore the prettiest dress
With different color socks
Sometimes I wondered
if the mates where in her lunchbox
Me and Lucy opened it when Cynthia wasn't around
Lucy cried, I almost died,
U know what we found?

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, honey
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Starfish and coffee
Cynthia had a happy face,
just like the one she'd draw
On every wall in every school
But it's all right, it's 4 a worthy cause
Go on, Cynthia, keep singin'

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam


"Mates"? As in friends?
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Reply #7 posted 10/29/02 1:09am

bkk1981

I thought it was about Vietnam.

pray
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Reply #8 posted 10/29/02 1:34am

Justin

the important thing is that she's 'different'.

I totally agree, he means "embrace difference, even if U don't comprehend it"
[This message was edited Tue Oct 29 1:35:04 PST 2002 by Justin]
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Reply #9 posted 10/29/02 7:50am

Sly

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bkk1981 said:

BorisFishpaw said:

imnotsayinthisjust2bnasty said:

BorisFishpaw said:

There's no hidden meaning in Starfish & Coffee.
It's about a 'special needs' girl at school.
and also a message to accept people for what
and who they are, not to judge people by
appearances.



i have been listening to starfish over and over and i just don't get that. please explain this take to me. thanks.


It's not obvious from the lyrics that Cynthia is retarded, but Prince himself explained that that was what the song was about. The fact that Cynthia was a special needs child isn't important to the message of the song, the important thing is that she's 'different'.

Here's the lyrics...

It was 7:45 we were all in line
2 greet the teacher Miss Cathleen
First was Kevin, then came Lucy,
third in line was me
All of us where ordinary compared to Cynthia Rose
She always stood at the back of the line
A smile beneath her nose
Her favorite number was 20 and every single day
If U asked her what she had 4 breakfast
This is what she'd say

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Cynthia wore the prettiest dress
With different color socks
Sometimes I wondered
if the mates where in her lunchbox
Me and Lucy opened it when Cynthia wasn't around
Lucy cried, I almost died,
U know what we found?

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, honey
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam

Starfish and coffee
Cynthia had a happy face,
just like the one she'd draw
On every wall in every school
But it's all right, it's 4 a worthy cause
Go on, Cynthia, keep singin'

Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam
Butterscotch clouds, a tangerine
And a side order of ham
If U set your mind free, baby
Maybe you'd understand
Starfish and coffee
Maple syrup and jam


"Mates"? As in friends?


"Mates" as in the sock's partners.
"London, i've adopted a name that has no pronounciation.... is that cool with you?"

"YEAH!!!"

"Yeah, well then fuck those other fools!"
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Reply #10 posted 10/29/02 10:07am

Saffireseven

Ditto what Justin said and I love this cute little song too.It is one me and my family jam too on the piano because it is so simple to play and have fun with smile
"We all got a space to fill"
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Reply #11 posted 11/05/02 9:20pm

Nothinbutjoy

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I never thought of Cynthia Rose as a special needs child. I just always thought that if she really had starfish and coffee, maple syrup and jam in her lunchbox then she didn't really have any food, so when everyone saw it they almost cried/died cause here was this extraordinary girl who was happy and beautiful eventhough she didn't have enough to bring lunch to school...

just my take on it...
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #12 posted 11/06/02 4:24am

Mindflux

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And yet another way to interpret this song is in the same vein as the Beatle's "Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds" - ie, basically an ode to LSD!

The psychedlic imagery of what's in her luchbox, the fact she draws a smiley face (which became associated with LSD, particularly in the late 80's) and that people would only understand if they set their mind free (something that LSD officinados claim LSD does, sets your mind free, opens doors of perception etc).

The great thing about Prince songs is that they nearly always contain something that can be interpreted in different ways!
...we have only scratched the surface of what the mind can do...

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Reply #13 posted 11/06/02 7:55am

imnotsayinthis
just2bnasty

i really always thought this song was about racial harmony...let me explain:
everything in her lunch box was simliar to different skin colors: starfish are yellow
coffee can be black or brown
maple syrup is brown
jam is red (or purple)
ham is pale pink
"set your mind free" has been, for years and years now, an anti racism slogan...
cynthia was just like all the other kids (i.e draws happy faces, mix matches her socks when she dresses herself, etc)...her only difference was race
like i said though, that's just my interpretation...
peace.
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