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Reply #60 posted 04/24/08 1:51pm

Flo6

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Agree. IPRs rule!






gurdet said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

Ah, the eternal Org debate.
Look.
Prince is getting greedier the older he gets.
If he could get paid every time someone thinks about him, trust me he'd try and do that.

If his blatant disrespect of his fans bothers you, then don't spend any of your hard earned dollars on him.

If it doesn't bother you, get down get down.


This is what i dont get. What disrespect are we talking about??

He doesn't like you have his stuff on youtube, he doesn't like his stuff accesible for free. Whats wrong with that? only because no one other artists seem to care, it doesn't make him disrespectful.

What wrong with wanting to be paid for his work! Gucci dont give away their clothes free to people who are fans of them!!!

I dnt meen to go on about it, but he did london last year for 31.21, with amazing aftershows. That isn't disrespect!!! Barabara Streisands cheapest in the 02 was about 150. I'm kinda glad we cant have access to everything for free, it makes it more special when things do become available to buy (shows,albums etc)
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Reply #61 posted 04/24/08 1:57pm

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mentalist said:

chillichocaholic said:

Meh, even the best things in life arent free anymore lol



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Reply #62 posted 04/24/08 2:00pm

Paris9748430

Bottom line is every artist who plays at Coachella has the option to let their set be webcast. Prince chose not to have his set webcast.

If you don't like it, sue him.
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #63 posted 04/24/08 2:03pm

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Reply #64 posted 04/24/08 2:04pm

Flo6

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Yes, let's go with the flo. Gotta be flexible to love this one... but it's a pleasure [at least for me:)]





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I agree with Mentalist.

Sure if it were up to me I'd love to have a pristine DVD copy of every concert he does - but I've come to the realisation that in the end, it's his choice on how he wants to run things. So just chill and go with the flow I say.
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Reply #65 posted 04/24/08 2:05pm

wildgoldenhone
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I give up.
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Reply #66 posted 04/24/08 2:08pm

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why is no one on this forum is allowed an opinion???

If you don't like it, sue him.


what is there to discuss. if people feel the way you do they either hop off the boat and move on,stop following his career or continue to support him.
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Reply #67 posted 04/24/08 2:17pm

wonder505

RumAndRaisin said:

why is no one on this forum is allowed an opinion???

what is there to discuss. if people feel the way you do they either hop off the boat and move on,stop following his career or continue to support him.


what do you mean no one?, if no one did we would not have an active forum. I'm justing stating my opinion, it by no means should stop anybody from stating there in agreeing or opposed to my statement.

to me, if i believed a musician does not care about fans, they way some peole here believe then its time to move on, no need to dwell on it. i dont see the point. some people dwell on it for years and still continue to follow his career.
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Reply #68 posted 04/24/08 2:33pm

Paris9748430

RumAndRaisin said:

why is no one on this forum is allowed an opinion???

If you don't like it, sue him.


what is there to discuss. if people feel the way you do they either hop off the boat and move on,stop following his career or continue to support him.


I just gave my opinion. Lord knows you won't shut up about yours.

I don't see how Prince's career choices affects you, me, or anyone else here.

Whatever business decision Prince has made in the past year has no affect on how I listen to his music.

If you want my honest opinion as to why Prince is doing what he's doing. I think it's because he watched his father make horrible deals when he was growing up, and he doesn't want to be taken advantage of the way his dad was.

He's also made reference his heroes like Little Richard & James Brown being screwed over by record companies. When he said that "they used to get Little Richard for a bucket of chicken & a new Caddy". He was referring to when record companies would give black artists cars instead of paying royalties.

I think a lot of what he's doing stems from a fear of being taken advantage of. He doesn't wanna make the same mistakes his heroes made.

It has nothing to do with his religion, 'cause he's been this way his entire career. I'm tired of people blaming Prince's religion when he does things they don't want him to do.
JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #69 posted 04/24/08 2:38pm

funkyhead

well if true then he has no right to whine about the inevitable bootlegs that'll appear. Once again he plays right into the hands of the bootleggers!.
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Reply #70 posted 04/24/08 2:45pm

misslilly

If money were the motive would you not sell it with pay-per view. How much money did they charge for that certain one punch fight quite a while back?
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Reply #71 posted 04/24/08 2:49pm

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Paris9748430 said:

RumAndRaisin said:

why is no one on this forum is allowed an opinion???



Lord knows you won't shut up about yours.



ive said it once.

"Lord knows you won't shut up about yours. " implies me saying "why wont doesent he release dvd's or allow live streams" at least 5 times
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Reply #72 posted 04/24/08 6:55pm

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This is just my opinion, but it seems that sometimes people take things being said way too personally when its not even about them...and even if that person does make a comment about u specifically, why let it bother u? They dont know u on a personal level

ANyway, just a thought lol
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Reply #73 posted 04/24/08 6:59pm

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Tame said:

mentalist said:




What about lovely fluffy white clouds floating in bright blue sky? cloud9


Or a breeze blowing over a blue-green sea?

That will cost u $1.50 after tax, its the rising cost due to carbon footprints of airplanes these days biggrin
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Reply #74 posted 04/24/08 7:01pm

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*yawn*
I've only been in this little fandom for 11 months and I'm so use to stuff like this by now, its like water off a ducks back with me.
Little brother's just hurting himself more than me with stuff like this.
Of course its stupid...but...I somehow don't care.
No, "don't care" is the wrong term to use...
Because I can totally feel what everyone is saying.
But then...I just don't get that deep off into it.

I think he's beat me. lol
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Reply #75 posted 04/24/08 7:09pm

chillichocahol
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ToraToraDreams said:

*yawn*
I've only been in this little fandom for 11 months and I'm so use to stuff like this by now, its like water off a ducks back with me.
Little brother's just hurting himself more than me with stuff like this.
Of course its stupid...but...I somehow don't care.
No, "don't care" is the wrong term to use...
Because I can totally feel what everyone is saying.
But then...I just don't get that deep off into it.

I think he's beat me. lol

lol No he hasnt beaten u. Im the same in a way, kind of in the middle of things if u like. I adore the man for his talent, he's definantly easy on the eyes and Im just hooked enought to have a symbol tattoo....oaky two...but he is not so deeply entrenched in my life that every little thing he does affects me shrug lol
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter
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Reply #76 posted 04/25/08 1:50am

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chillichocaholic said:

ToraToraDreams said:

*yawn*
I've only been in this little fandom for 11 months and I'm so use to stuff like this by now, its like water off a ducks back with me.
Little brother's just hurting himself more than me with stuff like this.
Of course its stupid...but...I somehow don't care.
No, "don't care" is the wrong term to use...
Because I can totally feel what everyone is saying.
But then...I just don't get that deep off into it.

I think he's beat me. lol

lol No he hasnt beaten u. Im the same in a way, kind of in the middle of things if u like. I adore the man for his talent, he's definantly easy on the eyes and Im just hooked enought to have a symbol tattoo....oaky two...but he is not so deeply entrenched in my life that every little thing he does affects me shrug lol



That's how I feel I suppose - and I have some tattoo's to match too!!!! wink


Also this from PARIS9748430

"Whatever business decision Prince has made in the past year has no affect on how I listen to his music"


Well said!!! biggrin
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Reply #77 posted 04/25/08 2:41am

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Ever since the Internet became mainstream, people seem to think that everything should be free. In the days before the net would we have been ranting about our favorite artists because they didn't let the entire world see their performances for free? It wouldn't have happened on any level!
People who go to a show have to pay for it. People who watch boxing matches on premium cable have to pay good money for those events too.. why should a headliner at a big event put the whole thing out there for free, when someone would probably save the files and pirate them anyway?
Prince is smart. Have some of us forgotten why we got into his music in the first place? It's because he does things as he feels led to do and not riding the bandwagon of culture du jour. An artist of his ilk is FAR more exciting than one who bows to what the world thinks they should do. LEST WE FORGET.


Stay out of this, Prince.
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Reply #78 posted 04/25/08 2:45am

viewaskew

What an asshole. He was approaching relevance again by performing, but dismisses that with this absurd egomania & censorship. What is aired by the festival organizers should have been out of his control as soon as he signed on the dotted line. Now, only select people who paid for the overpriced tickets will be able to see this, when a much larger audience could have been exposed to & enjoyed his music. What an asshole.
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Reply #79 posted 04/25/08 2:45am

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Evvy said:

mentalist said:

Marrk said:



aint it 10 years since he started this JW malarkey? i don't think that's fickle, more like terminal.






Yeah, 10 years!!!!! Why couldn't he have turned Buddist!!! They're so much more chilled out!!!


Even Satanism's gotta be better than this!!!


mad your comments tell alot about you

sit your arses down and watch your tapes of him on public tv if your soooo hurt

he'll be on friday night confused

for free
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but u have to be in America to see it pout
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #80 posted 04/25/08 3:04am

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viewaskew said:

What an asshole. He was approaching relevance again by performing, but dismisses that with this absurd egomania & censorship. What is aired by the festival organizers should have been out of his control as soon as he signed on the dotted line. Now, only select people who paid for the overpriced tickets will be able to see this, when a much larger audience could have been exposed to & enjoyed his music. What an asshole.


But Prince only wants those select people who paid too watch him!! Its not like his work or shows are ridiculously expensive so people have no chance of seeing him. Why should he de-value his work by letting people see it for free?
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Reply #81 posted 04/25/08 3:09am

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gurdet said:

viewaskew said:

What an asshole. He was approaching relevance again by performing, but dismisses that with this absurd egomania & censorship. What is aired by the festival organizers should have been out of his control as soon as he signed on the dotted line. Now, only select people who paid for the overpriced tickets will be able to see this, when a much larger audience could have been exposed to & enjoyed his music. What an asshole.


But Prince only wants those select people who paid too watch him!! Its not like his work or shows are ridiculously expensive so people have no chance of seeing him. Why should he de-value his work by letting people see it for free?

not everybody can afford airfares, accomodation to see prince (try living in Australia sigh ).
im not saying P should put his stuff out there 4 free, but pls give access to those who are willing to pay the price of a DVD etc.
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #82 posted 04/25/08 3:19am

gurdet

prb said:

gurdet said:



But Prince only wants those select people who paid too watch him!! Its not like his work or shows are ridiculously expensive so people have no chance of seeing him. Why should he de-value his work by letting people see it for free?

not everybody can afford airfares, accomodation to see prince (try living in Australia sigh ).
im not saying P should put his stuff out there 4 free, but pls give access to those who are willing to pay the price of a DVD etc.


Fair enough with the dvds for sale. But regarding his shows, they're not that expensive (agreed everything adds up i.e. flights hotels) but P cant help that, it would be too difficult for him to do a world tour.

I agree with him not doing free streaming or having free stuff on net, it will devalue his work (he doesn't need to get his music to a larger audience he's hardly a new artist, look at the success of o2 shows.)
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Reply #83 posted 04/25/08 3:28am

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gurdet said:

prb said:


not everybody can afford airfares, accomodation to see prince (try living in Australia sigh ).
im not saying P should put his stuff out there 4 free, but pls give access to those who are willing to pay the price of a DVD etc.


Fair enough with the dvds for sale. But regarding his shows, they're not that expensive (agreed everything adds up i.e. flights hotels) but P cant help that, it would be too difficult for him to do a world tour.

I agree with him not doing free streaming or having free stuff on net, it will devalue his work (he doesn't need to get his music to a larger audience he's hardly a new artist, look at the success of o2 shows.)

and kudos to P on a successful stint at o2
the book release later in the yr will be great, but not like watching him live.

ive said here b4, its his work, he can do what he likes with it, but why not make it commercially available to those who want to watch/listen to it- if he wont allow it on the net etc twocents
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #84 posted 04/25/08 3:32am

gurdet

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gurdet said:



Fair enough with the dvds for sale. But regarding his shows, they're not that expensive (agreed everything adds up i.e. flights hotels) but P cant help that, it would be too difficult for him to do a world tour.

I agree with him not doing free streaming or having free stuff on net, it will devalue his work (he doesn't need to get his music to a larger audience he's hardly a new artist, look at the success of o2 shows.)

and kudos to P on a successful stint at o2
the book release later in the yr will be great, but not like watching him live.

ive said here b4, its his work, he can do what he likes with it, but why not make it commercially available to those who want to watch/listen to it- if he wont allow it on the net etc twocents



yeh i agree with him releasing more dvds. but its a bit harsh for people to call him an arsehole for this coachella thing.
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Reply #85 posted 04/25/08 3:38am

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This is not a phase,this is the new and permanent Prince.
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Reply #86 posted 04/25/08 3:39am

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gurdet said:

prb said:


and kudos to P on a successful stint at o2
the book release later in the yr will be great, but not like watching him live.

ive said here b4, its his work, he can do what he likes with it, but why not make it commercially available to those who want to watch/listen to it- if he wont allow it on the net etc twocents



yeh i agree with him releasing more dvds. but its a bit harsh for people to call him an arsehole for this coachella thing.

do any of the other artists performing have the same restrictions?
shrug
seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before music beret
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Reply #87 posted 04/25/08 3:39am

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Dayclear said:

This is not a phase,this is the new and permanent Prince.

sad
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Reply #88 posted 04/25/08 3:45am

gurdet

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gurdet said:




yeh i agree with him releasing more dvds. but its a bit harsh for people to call him an arsehole for this coachella thing.

do any of the other artists performing have the same restrictions?
shrug


Do you mean at Coachella? Probably not. But he is hardly someone that will do what everyone else is doing. If he was, we all probably wouldn't be such big fans!
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Reply #89 posted 04/25/08 3:46am

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gurdet said:

prb said:


do any of the other artists performing have the same restrictions?
shrug


Do you mean at Coachella? Probably not. But he is hardly someone that will do what everyone else is doing. If he was, we all probably wouldn't be such big fans!

yes, coachella.
theres never a dull moment being a prince fan, thats for sure lol
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