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Reply #180 posted 04/28/08 2:39pm

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cloudguitar said:

Something I'd like to add as Johnny Cash was mentioned...the American recording albums are amazing! and he was in his 60s when they were recorded!

I get the impression that some people write Prince off because off his age...and that some people think that artists only have something to contribute that's worthwhile if the artist is in their 20s

Using Cash as an example I'd say there's every chance we'll get some more beauties before he pops his clogs!

(personally, I think the One Nite Alone studio album is one such beauty)


agreed. i have all the american albums and the box set, and i think the american recordings albums are some of cash's best work. i love that he took chances with his choice of material, and succeeded in pulling in a younger generation of fans and a whole level of appreciation.


also agree and credit also goes to Cash for working with a talented producer in Rick Rubin, the founder of American Recordings.
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Reply #181 posted 04/28/08 3:22pm

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yea, credit to Mr Rubin...from what i gather one of Cash's sons had a lot to do with the song choices too

I wonder who introduced Prince to Radiohead?
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On Rick Rubin, i'd heard that Def Jam has gone into some kind of brand partnership with Procter and Gamble...if it's true you can expcet to here Public Enemy back sunny delight adverts!!! Yikes
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Reply #182 posted 04/28/08 4:19pm

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Anxiety said:

cloudguitar said:

Something I'd like to add as Johnny Cash was mentioned...the American recording albums are amazing! and he was in his 60s when they were recorded!

I get the impression that some people write Prince off because off his age...and that some people think that artists only have something to contribute that's worthwhile if the artist is in their 20s

Using Cash as an example I'd say there's every chance we'll get some more beauties before he pops his clogs!

(personally, I think the One Nite Alone studio album is one such beauty)


agreed. i have all the american albums and the box set, and i think the american recordings albums are some of cash's best work. i love that he took chances with his choice of material, and succeeded in pulling in a younger generation of fans and a whole level of appreciation.


It's so nice to see someone making sense around here. It seems so many people can't take Prince for who he currently is and, in retrospect, who he's always been.

I usually enjoy a good Bart thread, but that "Johhny Cash covered NIN but not Prince" thing is pretty ludicrous. Come on Bart. Mr. Cash also covered Depeche Mode, so what does that mean?
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Reply #183 posted 04/29/08 12:57am

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Anxiety said:



agreed. i have all the american albums and the box set, and i think the american recordings albums are some of cash's best work. i love that he took chances with his choice of material, and succeeded in pulling in a younger generation of fans and a whole level of appreciation.


It's so nice to see someone making sense around here. It seems so many people can't take Prince for who he currently is and, in retrospect, who he's always been.

I usually enjoy a good Bart thread, but that "Johhny Cash covered NIN but not Prince" thing is pretty ludicrous. Come on Bart. Mr. Cash also covered Depeche Mode, so what does that mean?

lol lol
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Reply #184 posted 04/29/08 1:05am

syble

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Thanks Bart for a great thread.
I think the crux of all of Bart’s threads is that he always expected more from Prince because of his earlier work, as has felt letdown since, which is me and a lot of other people here.
I have always agreed with Bart more or less, and watched him get verbally beat down by the Fams once in a while because his focus is so heavy into the negative aspects. And yes hes a bitter angry fan,but I commend Bart for coming here and saying what he believes, a little too harshly but that is his way.
But mostly he always adds substance to this discussion, point by point dissecting everybody’s opinion, agree with it or not and keeps us thinking.bitchfight
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I think you are a generous person! and should be commended for this post - however Bart does appear to be dogmatic and wanting everyone to bow to his will! Im not sure I agree with the point by point bit - but hey this is not about bashing other orgers, its about free discussion and you are right!

Without Bart we wouldnt have this interesting thread as long as we all stay on topic!
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Reply #185 posted 04/29/08 1:14am

syble

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I said this earlier - its not a competition its music!!

Agreed too about the bitter bit, so many 'fans' in here instantly have to post gripes against prince at his every move, in somes eyes he cant do anything right. As I said I think hes gone back to the old way of marketing himself - through live gigs.

nobody should have an issue with promotion through live gigs, i think it's more a case of just what is he promoting?. It's just down to quality control. Seriously a 50 year old man singing about bustin' the bed head and wanting to make you bleed is really not a good place to be and lets not mention the 'A' word!!. I don't really care whether it's the net or live performace that he chooses as a marketing tool as it all just comes down to the music, i think we can all agree on that?.


He is promoting himself! and yes my point exactly at the beginning of this thread - why should he be all over the net, promotion takes many forms and just cos Trent is using the net as a format to get his stuff heard then bully for him. prince has obviously decided to take a different track now.

I agree that new song?? I posted that elsewhere too, not sure where hes coming from with that - I see it as a typical brag thing, like size etc gonna make you bleed? isnt that what all the rappers sing about? (eminem smack that till you get sore? cringeworthy stuff) it seems a bit immature to me, but then Ive always thought he never really grew up like we have to. Hes in that 'magical' world where everyones a 'yes' man! Still people who hark back to his naughty years will love it. Im still not sure, I need to hear a proper recording, but the lyrics do jar with me, which is of course ageist!!


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i think we can both agree that it's a small relief that prince didn't sing "you're so ducking special" when he covered "creep" this weekend. lol[/quote] lol
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