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Prince hates his hits Sorry folks - last question. Which song do you think Prince is sick to death of playing live? I was reading a biography of Jimi Hendrix, who had a much shorter career than Prince, and he became so disillusioned with playing his hits like 'Purple Haze' over and over again that he just wanted to start something completely new months before he died. I got this vibe from Prince around the TRC time and also during much of the 90's (although I think during the 90's it was more a case of fucking over Warner Bros by creating a new identity than actually disliking some of his 'hits'). My guess is 'Kiss' and dare I say it, 'Purple Rain'.
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I think he enjoys playing his music,
and plays what he's in the mood to listen to. | |
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he enjoys playing purple rain, as at the o2 a number of times, during the opening he would say "i love this song" | |
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i remember prince stating that he was sick of playing his hits from as
far back as 1993. consequently he's stated countless times that he will retire a few of his most famous songs like "1999", "little red corvette" etc. i'm not sure but i think that "little red corvette" might be the only one he actually stopped playing, tho i'm not sure. so he's either not really tired of playing those songs or he realised the majority of the public just want to hear them and buy their tix 2 his shows for those. perhaps that's why he plays lesser known stuff at his aftershows, to please the hardcore audience whom drool at 10 minute guitar solo's n could care less about another paint by numbers version of kiss. anywho. i think that on some level, after he dissed some of the songs through the 90s he realised once again just how fucking brilliant the majority of them really are. and perhaps the fact that he didn't have a real hit since 1994. all of that combined probably made him decide to keep playing those hits just a little longer. but for the sake of his integrity he should just stop that non sense about "i'm gonna retire these songs after this tour" because that's the thing that is really making him look like an ass. he always yells it and he never did it. and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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the hits he hasnt played in years are :
I Wanna Be Ur Lover (this hasnt been played in full in god knows how long, at the o2 it was either him on piano, or hed say "come on band" and theyd do one verse one chorus) Raspberry Beret (not a full band version since 2002) Pop Life (2002) Little Red Corvette (2001) Sign O The Times (2004) When Doves Cry (2004) Diamonds And Pearls (1993) Come On (002) Thieves In The Temple (1992) Letitgo (1996) Glam Slam (1989) Gett Off (2001) My Name Is Prince (1993) Jam Of The Year (1998) Uptown (2001) DMSR (2004) The Greatest Romance (2000) and so on | |
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He played Little Red Corvette on the 11th at the O2, although he did stop in between verses and go 'y'all don't know that one' but evertually he did finish the song. | |
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Its obvious Prince doesn't enjoy doing When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette too much. They rarely get an outing.
He seems to always enjoy Purple Rain, Kiss and Raspberry Beret. They pop up most of the time. . | |
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There was a time Prince said he would not do Purple rain in concerts anymore and he tried that and his fans would not leave auditoriums until he came back out and did it. Remember he said "If you came to get you're Purple rain on, you're in the wrong house"! Last time he was on Jay Leno Prince was asked the same question and he said this song was the one he would be remembered for most and it's the 'albatross around his neck. Purple Rain.  | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Its obvious Prince doesn't enjoy doing When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette too much. They rarely get an outing.
He seems to always enjoy Purple Rain, Kiss and Raspberry Beret. They pop up most of the time. That's probably why he did the medley when I last saw him in concert. Because it was my favorite song, when he first started playing the beginning part of the song, I was thrilled, but he only played part of it. I can understand why he doesn't play some songs because of his changed beliefs, so that was okay with me when he decided to not sing/play all of it. I was sort of curious how he was going to handle the racy lyrics and all before I even got into the concert hall, that answered my questions. . [Edited 4/17/08 4:15am] | |
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Fragmentor said: He played Little Red Corvette on the 11th at the O2, although he did stop in between verses and go 'y'all don't know that one' but evertually he did finish the song.
yeah but it wasnt played with the full band, him on the guitar alone playing about 1 minuite of it doesent really | |
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Dayclear said: There was a time Prince said he would not do Purple rain in concerts anymore and he tried that and his fans would not leave auditoriums until he came back out and did it. Remember he said "If you came to get you're Purple rain on, you're in the wrong house"! Last time he was on Jay Leno Prince was asked the same question and he said this song was the one he would be remembered for most and it's the 'albatross around his neck. Purple Rain.
I think you are right, but I think Prince is his own worst enemy. The only reason the crowd expect Purple Rain now is because he always plays it. Its not his biggest hit, and a large section of his audience did not join because of that album or film. 10 years ago, no one would expect 1999 to go missing out of the live set, but it did. Its only back now, after a 8 year absence. Most of my casual fan friends would rather hear Sign O The Times, When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette than they would Purple Rain. . | |
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I'm guessing "1999" would be tiring, and outdated. I am surprised Prince said that "Purple Rain" is like an albatross around his neck...That's funny...Why didn't he go so far as to say a woodpecker or some other kind of bird? "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Tame said: I am surprised Prince said that "Purple Rain" is like an albatross around his neck...That's funny...Why didn't he go so far as to say a woodpecker or some other kind of bird?
Because only albatross can be supported by your neck. look.  . | |
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i know it was a shock to hear 1999 at the o2(14,08,07), i can't belive he hasnt played diamonds and pearls since 93?, though i guess i see why as its not the same without rosie, i personally would never get tired of hearing jam of the year or "hits" from around that time Like a Gb Major with a E in the bass | |
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Consider if you will the fate of other successful bands who have far less material to play. Well even those with a few under their belts still get called to play the 'hits'. Imagine going to see Floyd and not hearing Comfortably Numb, or Led Zeppelin and they not playing Whole Lotta Love. Worse still, imagine booking tickets to see The Cheeky Girls and then not being treated to "I am a cheeky girl, you are a cheeky boy!" and so on...
And why is it that I fancy pretty much anything resembling the female form and yet when I see the Cheeky Girls in those gold hot pants they don't even raise a tingle in my underpants? I said tingle. With a g. Not a k. | |
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Tame said: I'm guessing "1999" would be tiring, and outdated. I am surprised Prince said that "Purple Rain" is like an albatross around his neck...That's funny...Why didn't he go so far as to say a woodpecker or some other kind of bird?
Is that a serious question? Please tell me it's not. | |
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it should be purple rain. if i were him my thought while playing it would be-wake me when i am done- | |
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IstenSzek said: i remember prince stating that he was sick of playing his hits from as
far back as 1993. consequently he's stated countless times that he will retire a few of his most famous songs like "1999", "little red corvette" etc. i'm not sure but i think that "little red corvette" might be the only one he actually stopped playing, tho i'm not sure. so he's either not really tired of playing those songs or he realised the majority of the public just want to hear them and buy their tix 2 his shows for those. perhaps that's why he plays lesser known stuff at his aftershows, to please the hardcore audience whom drool at 10 minute guitar solo's n could care less about another paint by numbers version of kiss. anywho. i think that on some level, after he dissed some of the songs through the 90s he realised once again just how fucking brilliant the majority of them really are. and perhaps the fact that he didn't have a real hit since 1994. all of that combined probably made him decide to keep playing those hits just a little longer. but for the sake of his integrity he should just stop that non sense about "i'm gonna retire these songs after this tour" because that's the thing that is really making him look like an ass. he always yells it and he never did it. He wants to retire them but the Catch 22 is that that's all the general public wanna hear... So he either does what he once did in the past; go out and follow his musical muse - playing to smaller audiences for less profit, but be alive, driven, focused and free, playing his current musical creations - OR, as he's been doing for the last 4 years; pander to the general public, play essentially the same set-list over and over and over and over and over again (old-school, 'best-was-well-in-the-past', Rolling Stones style), make a shit load of money and become a top-draw "oldies" act... It's easy to see that the inspiration has dried up and he's taking the easy Out (I'm not dissing him for raking in the big money, fucking good for him - but for anybody to argue that he's still a relevant, innovative artist is simply retarded logic - he now shares the 'once were legends, now are coasting' stage with the like of the Stones, Elton John and Paul McCartney - personally I'm just a little sad at how fast and easy that transformation took place (especially between 2003 and 2004) - the once rebellious, innovative genius, just seemed to roll over too easily and say, "fuck it, time to coast..." And you paisley wearing fanatics, don't paint me as a 'hater', i've followed this journey for 25 years - and i'll be the first to admit that he had a golden age like no other in music - hell, for damn near 20 years he wrote his own rules, followed his own unique path and offered up a musical journey like no other EVER has - but please, stop pretending that in the last 4 years he HASN'T transformed into an 'oldies' act, connecting the tired dots, 'cos fuck it, HE HAS!!! (who in the 21 nights at o2, heard the bulk of the current album?... NO ONE (in fact what album since 92's Symbol album has had a real live airing - nothing from this century, that's for sure - except TRC, but again, the transformation of drive from 2003 to 2004, what a shocker....) I don't deny that he has well earnt himself credit to coast in his final years, but lets not deny that he is in no way, shape or form the creative musical genius that he once was - those days sadly disappeared faster than most of us expected... The Hef Years arrived WAY too fast - but lets at least be honest enough to know that the Hef Years are well and truly here...  Hef Years... 
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FlamingRaindrop said: IstenSzek said: i remember prince stating that he was sick of playing his hits from as
far back as 1993. consequently he's stated countless times that he will retire a few of his most famous songs like "1999", "little red corvette" etc. i'm not sure but i think that "little red corvette" might be the only one he actually stopped playing, tho i'm not sure. so he's either not really tired of playing those songs or he realised the majority of the public just want to hear them and buy their tix 2 his shows for those. perhaps that's why he plays lesser known stuff at his aftershows, to please the hardcore audience whom drool at 10 minute guitar solo's n could care less about another paint by numbers version of kiss. anywho. i think that on some level, after he dissed some of the songs through the 90s he realised once again just how fucking brilliant the majority of them really are. and perhaps the fact that he didn't have a real hit since 1994. all of that combined probably made him decide to keep playing those hits just a little longer. but for the sake of his integrity he should just stop that non sense about "i'm gonna retire these songs after this tour" because that's the thing that is really making him look like an ass. he always yells it and he never did it. He wants to retire them but the Catch 22 is that that's all the general public wanna hear... So he either does what he once did in the past; go out and follow his musical muse - playing to smaller audiences for less profit, but be alive, driven, focused and free, playing his current musical creations - OR, as he's been doing for the last 4 years; pander to the general public, play essentially the same set-list over and over and over and over and over again (old-school, 'best-was-well-in-the-past', Rolling Stones style), make a shit load of money and become a top-draw "oldies" act... It's easy to see that the inspiration has dried up and he's taking the easy Out (I'm not dissing him for raking in the big money, fucking good for him - but for anybody to argue that he's still a relevant, innovative artist is simply retarded logic - he now shares the 'once were legends, now are coasting' stage with the like of the Stones, Elton John and Paul McCartney - personally I'm just a little sad at how fast and easy that transformation took place (especially between 2003 and 2004) - the once rebellious, innovative genius, just seemed to roll over too easily and say, "fuck it, time to coast..." And you paisley wearing fanatics, don't paint me as a 'hater', i've followed this journey for 25 years - and i'll be the first to admit that he had a golden age like no other in music - hell, for damn near 20 years he wrote his own rules, followed his own unique path and offered up a musical journey like no other EVER has - but please, stop pretending that in the last 4 years he HASN'T transformed into an 'oldies' act, connecting the tired dots, 'cos fuck it, HE HAS!!! (who in the 21 nights at o2, heard the bulk of the current album?... NO ONE (in fact what album since 92's Symbol album has had a real live airing - nothing from this century, that's for sure - except TRC, but again, the transformation of drive from 2003 to 2004, what a shocker....) I don't deny that he has well earnt himself credit to coast in his final years, but lets not deny that he is in no way, shape or form the creative musical genius that he once was - those days sadly disappeared faster than most of us expected... The Hef Years arrived WAY too fast - but lets at least be honest enough to know that the Hef Years are well and truly her... Hef Years... 3121, black sweat, lolita, satisfied, get on the boat and the dance are still played regualy from 3121 Planet earth, guitar, shoe, chelsea rodgers and t1uwc are played regually from Planet Earth | |
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RumAndRaisin said: FlamingRaindrop said: He wants to retire them but the Catch 22 is that that's all the general public wanna hear... So he either does what he once did in the past; go out and follow his musical muse - playing to smaller audiences for less profit, but be alive, driven, focused and free, playing his current musical creations - OR, as he's been doing for the last 4 years; pander to the general public, play essentially the same set-list over and over and over and over and over again (old-school, 'best-was-well-in-the-past', Rolling Stones style), make a shit load of money and become a top-draw "oldies" act... It's easy to see that the inspiration has dried up and he's taking the easy Out (I'm not dissing him for raking in the big money, fucking good for him - but for anybody to argue that he's still a relevant, innovative artist is simply retarded logic - he now shares the 'once were legends, now are coasting' stage with the like of the Stones, Elton John and Paul McCartney - personally I'm just a little sad at how fast and easy that transformation took place (especially between 2003 and 2004) - the once rebellious, innovative genius, just seemed to roll over too easily and say, "fuck it, time to coast..." And you paisley wearing fanatics, don't paint me as a 'hater', i've followed this journey for 25 years - and i'll be the first to admit that he had a golden age like no other in music - hell, for damn near 20 years he wrote his own rules, followed his own unique path and offered up a musical journey like no other EVER has - but please, stop pretending that in the last 4 years he HASN'T transformed into an 'oldies' act, connecting the tired dots, 'cos fuck it, HE HAS!!! (who in the 21 nights at o2, heard the bulk of the current album?... NO ONE (in fact what album since 92's Symbol album has had a real live airing - nothing from this century, that's for sure - except TRC, but again, the transformation of drive from 2003 to 2004, what a shocker....) I don't deny that he has well earnt himself credit to coast in his final years, but lets not deny that he is in no way, shape or form the creative musical genius that he once was - those days sadly disappeared faster than most of us expected... The Hef Years arrived WAY too fast - but lets at least be honest enough to know that the Hef Years are well and truly her... Hef Years... 3121, black sweat, lolita, satisfied, get on the boat and the dance are still played regualy from 3121 Planet earth, guitar, shoe, chelsea rodgers and t1uwc are played regually from Planet Earth But not on the same night. Only three or got played on a night. The rest is all hits and covers. And of those songs you mentioned, half of them have only appeared a few times. . | |
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RumAndRaisin said: the hits he hasnt played in years are :
I Wanna Be Ur Lover (this hasnt been played in full in god knows how long, at the o2 it was either him on piano, or hed say "come on band" and theyd do one verse one chorus) Raspberry Beret (not a full band version since 2002) Pop Life (2002) Little Red Corvette (2001) Sign O The Times (2004) When Doves Cry (2004) Diamonds And Pearls (1993) Come On (002) Thieves In The Temple (1992) Letitgo (1996) Glam Slam (1989) Gett Off (2001) My Name Is Prince (1993) Jam Of The Year (1998) Uptown (2001) DMSR (2004) The Greatest Romance (2000) and so on Seriously, who now, apart from long term Prince fans, would class I Wanna Be Your Lover as a hit? You're dreaming surely! Pop Life??? Ditto... Come On and Let it go - hits??? Where dude? Where were they 'hits'? Glam Slam, Gett Off, My Name Is Prince - hardly classics... Again, who under 40 (and a hard core prince fan) would class these as true hits? Jam Of The Year and DMSR - surely these were never even singles - never, ever, ever hits in any shape or form... The Greatest Romance Ever Sold - yea like that sucker sold a bundle and rode the charts like Kelly Slatter - NOT! Yea, 1999 - the big hits: Britney: Baby One More Time - Santana/Rob Thomas, Smooth - TLC: No Scrubs - Backstreet Boys: I Want It That Way - Lenny Kravitz; American Woman - Red Hot Chilis: Californication - Eminem: My Name Is - Will Smith; Wild Wild West - Ricky Martin: Livin' La Vida Loca - Prince; The Greatest Romance Ever Sold (NOT!) Come on now larry, that's a pretty abusive use of the term 'hits'.... | |
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Globally, I think the only songs that can be considered hits are:
1999 LRC When Doves Cry Lets Go Crazy Purple Rain Raspberry Beret Kiss SOTT U Got The Look Alphabet Street Batdance Gett Off Cream . | |
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SquirrelMeat said: RumAndRaisin said: 3121, black sweat, lolita, satisfied, get on the boat and the dance are still played regualy from 3121 Planet earth, guitar, shoe, chelsea rodgers and t1uwc are played regually from Planet Earth But not on the same night. Only three or got played on a night. The rest is all hits and covers. And of those songs you mentioned, half of them have only appeared a few times. Exactly!! It's not like when he was focused and really believed in his latest material and focused tours around those albums... Now he chucks in one or 2 of the latest songs as a throwaway quiet moment between the old hits and covers. VERY SAD - exactly what the Stones do... | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Globally, I think the only songs that can be considered hits are:
1999 LRC When Doves Cry Lets Go Crazy Purple Rain Raspberry Beret Kiss SOTT U Got The Look Alphabet Street Batdance Gett Off Cream According to this----all of Prince's Greatest Hits albums have too many songs on them. Really, the songs you listed songs are meeting only chart criteria for what a "hit" is. I think that when most people are talking about Prince's "hits" they are talking about his best known and beloved songs, not necessarily chart position. Example: Darling Nikki---everyone knows that song even though it wasn't technically a single or a "hit". "New Power slide...." |
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SquirrelMeat said: Globally, I think the only songs that can be considered hits are:
1999 LRC When Doves Cry Lets Go Crazy Purple Rain Raspberry Beret Kiss SOTT U Got The Look Alphabet Street Batdance Gett Off Cream Exactly - maybe also Diamonds and Pearls and The Most Beautiful Girl In The World... but damn, wasn't '94 a fuck of a long time ago... | |
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RumAndRaisin said: the hits he hasnt played in years are :
I Wanna Be Ur Lover (this hasnt been played in full in god knows how long, at the o2 it was either him on piano, or hed say "come on band" and theyd do one verse one chorus) Raspberry Beret (not a full band version since 2002) Pop Life (2002) Little Red Corvette (2001) Sign O The Times (2004) When Doves Cry (2004) Diamonds And Pearls (1993) Come On (002) Thieves In The Temple (1992) Letitgo (1996) Glam Slam (1989) Gett Off (2001) My Name Is Prince (1993) Jam Of The Year (1998) Uptown (2001) DMSR (2004) The Greatest Romance (2000) and so on I am skeptical on some of these. Surely Prince played Diamonds and Pearls on the Jam of the Year tour, and the Musicology tour. "New Power slide...." |
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Prince plays the older songs over the new ones for a good reason.
at the o2, when each classic prince song eg 1999, Purple Rain, Lets Go Crazy or Kiss would start the crowd would go wild and cheer and scream as they new them. when each new song would start the crowd would become bored. Alot of the the times he played SHOE or Satisfied the crowd would go and buy some chips or get another drink!! lol in a 20,000 arena prince cant afford to be experimentle, not like the ONA shows that didnt go down to well in england. at his age he cant risk loosing fans again like before musicology. the majority of the o2 crowds went to see Kiss not Lolita | |
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SquirrelMeat said: Its obvious Prince doesn't enjoy doing When Doves Cry and Little Red Corvette too much. They rarely get an outing.
He seems to always enjoy Purple Rain, Kiss and Raspberry Beret. They pop up most of the time. He played Little Red Corvette each time I saw him at the O2 - and didnt' he open his acoustic set with it on the Musicology tour in the states? When Doves Cry wasn't played properly on either of the above. And it's one of his most known songs as well as one of his best. I haven't heard it played in full since '86! | |
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skywalker said: RumAndRaisin said: the hits he hasnt played in years are :
I Wanna Be Ur Lover (this hasnt been played in full in god knows how long, at the o2 it was either him on piano, or hed say "come on band" and theyd do one verse one chorus) Raspberry Beret (not a full band version since 2002) Pop Life (2002) Little Red Corvette (2001) Sign O The Times (2004) When Doves Cry (2004) Diamonds And Pearls (1993) Come On (002) Thieves In The Temple (1992) Letitgo (1996) Glam Slam (1989) Gett Off (2001) My Name Is Prince (1993) Jam Of The Year (1998) Uptown (2001) DMSR (2004) The Greatest Romance (2000) and so on I am skeptical on some of these. Surely Prince played Diamonds and Pearls on the Jam of the Year tour, and the Musicology tour. no, only as part of a piano medley on the JOTYT, where hed sing the 1st line of the chorus then change song. | |
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skywalker said: SquirrelMeat said: Globally, I think the only songs that can be considered hits are:
1999 LRC When Doves Cry Lets Go Crazy Purple Rain Raspberry Beret Kiss SOTT U Got The Look Alphabet Street Batdance Gett Off Cream According to this----all of Prince's Greatest Hits albums have too many songs on them. Really, the songs you listed songs are meeting only chart criteria for what a "hit" is. I think that when most people are talking about Prince's "hits" they are talking about his best known and beloved songs, not necessarily chart position. [b]Example: Darling Nikki---everyone knows that song even though it wasn't technically a single or a "hit".[/b] Wrong - Prince fans know that song - i know that song but virtually nobody i know would have the slightest clue what that song is - just like i'm sure neil diamond and barry manalow fans consider one or 2 of their none-single songs classics from 'classic (to them) albums' - but the rest of the world wouldn't know, care, or give the slightest single fuck about neil and barrys equivalent to darling nikki.... Come on now, lets keep it real... | |
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