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Reply #30 posted 03/27/08 8:03pm

Tame

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I hope that Prince realizes that She must surely love him...Two Gypsy bandits, must have stealing eachother's hearts in common..
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #31 posted 03/27/08 10:13pm

Twinkly1

royalshyness said:

justbeecause said:

Its this line stands out for me..

'I probably should be happy but I'm still not sure if u really love me..'

He's remains unsure of her love...

For whatever reason she fails to reassure him that she loves him... sad


from what i can tell, he has an egoic idea of what love is. for him, love fills the demands of 'like', so if he doesnt 'like' something, he doesnt feel loved.

Love is actually whatever is best for you, and that can range from open displays of affection and outright declarations of love, to firm discipline and even stinging wrath.

its the difference between a parents love for a child, and the child's idea of what love is.

so she could reassure him til the cows come home, but if she did or said anything he didnt 'like', he'd doubt her love for him.

u c? cool


>>>>>I C and I think you are also correct. The love he describes is all-encompasing. I.E., do you love not just me, Prince the artist, but Prince who I truly am....

I Guess should be happy but I'm still not
Sure that U realy love me...

Love me... Love me... Love me... U love me...

There is 1 who would stand by my side
Through the good and the bad
Let that 1 stand with pride
The best that I ever had

Like the lion of judah

She has the raw material, but does she truly love him and can she manage the demands of being with a Prince?
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Reply #32 posted 03/28/08 1:52am

royalshyness

Twinkly1 said:



>>>>>I C and I think you are also correct. The love he describes is all-encompasing. I.E., do you love not just me, Prince the artist, but Prince who I truly am....

She has the raw material, but does she truly love him and can she manage the demands of being with a Prince?


hi twinkly1,

just woke up so forgive me for being blunt, but if he's asking that question of someone who is like the Lion of Judah, .. its kinda like "is this stupid-question-of-the-millenium day?"

"wee waw but do you love me i mean me who i really am wee waw boo hoo"

i'm sure a Lion of Judah type person would strike that inner enemy down by giving it no more attention than...

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Reply #33 posted 03/28/08 6:14am

justbeecause

Twinkly1 said:



She has the raw material, but does she truly love him and can she manage the demands of being with a Prince?


heaven alone knows... i guess..
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Reply #34 posted 03/28/08 7:09am

Tame

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How could Prince be reassured of someone's love...If Prince is addressing the situation with uncertainty himself?
Standing by someone's side through the good and the bad, spans an eternity of scenerio's with love that is intended to last forever.
So...Prince is asking for Love set in stone that has a tide of waves surrounding this love.
The answer is...and must certainly be....Love, no matter what.
Love from the mountain top
Love from the valley
Love when the wings of love carry you effortlessly,
and Love when the spirit is broken.

Love...Thy will be done.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #35 posted 03/28/08 7:23am

Tame

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To add:
She must love him as he drags his amp over the kitchen floor...
She must love him when he drives his motorcycle through the front door...
She must love him when his hair is a mess.
She must love him when she hates his tests.
His love must shine when dinner's dessert
His love must shine when she's being a flirt.
His love must be if she skins her knee...
cleaning up the mess He's made for me.
He must love her when she's not funny at all.
She must love him playing basketball.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #36 posted 03/28/08 2:51pm

colorblu

Tame said:

How could Prince be reassured of someone's love...If Prince is addressing the situation with uncertainty himself?
Standing by someone's side through the good and the bad, spans an eternity of scenerio's with love that is intended to last forever.
So...Prince is asking for Love set in stone that has a tide of waves surrounding this love.
The answer is...and must certainly be....Love, no matter what.
Love from the mountain top
Love from the valley
Love when the wings of love carry you effortlessly,
and Love when the spirit is broken.

Love...Thy will be done.


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Reply #37 posted 03/28/08 2:58pm

C0RAZ0N

Tame said:

love that is intended to last forever.
So...Prince is asking for Love set in stone that has a tide of waves surrounding this love.
The answer is...and must certainly be....Love, no matter what.


Yes true love will be there no matter what but is it love if he expects her to put up with everything even if he might mistreat her what about love is also being giving or willing to make changes or compromise or respect for her feelings too?
[Edited 3/28/08 15:00pm]
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Reply #38 posted 03/28/08 6:40pm

royalshyness

C0RAZ0N said:

even if he might mistreat her what about love is also being giving or willing to make changes or compromise or respect for her feelings too?


y'all r gettin hijacked by the notion that Love aint already fixed alla dat.

Some things just Go Without Saying.
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Reply #39 posted 03/28/08 7:04pm

Twinkly1

royalshyness said:

Twinkly1 said:



>>>>>I C and I think you are also correct. The love he describes is all-encompasing. I.E., do you love not just me, Prince the artist, but Prince who I truly am....

She has the raw material, but does she truly love him and can she manage the demands of being with a Prince?


hi twinkly1,

just woke up so forgive me for being blunt, but if he's asking that question of someone who is like the Lion of Judah, .. its kinda like "is this stupid-question-of-the-millenium day?"

"wee waw but do you love me i mean me who i really am wee waw boo hoo"

i'm sure a Lion of Judah type person would strike that inner enemy down by giving it no more attention than...

heartheart


I thought he (Prince) was the Lion of Judah, striking his enemies down. Not her.

but if he's asking that question of someone who is like the Lion of Judah, .. Do you mean if he's asking that question AS someone who is like the Lion of Judah?


Like the Lion of Judah (Judah)
I Strike my enemys down
As my God is living
Surely the trumpet will sound
There is 1 who would stand by my side
Through the good and the bad
Let that 1 stand with pride
The best that I ever had

>>>>>He says if she's capable, shes the best he's ever had. I don't attach the next line to refer to her.

Like the lion of judah

Driving away with a smile on my face
Wind blowing through my hair
Wondering how U'll feel when U find out
How much I really care (I care)

Overall, I do see what you mean, if he's the Lion ofJudah, perhaps he'd be stronger in that he wouldn't be asking her to love him, he'd know she'd love him?????

Please break it down to me.
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Reply #40 posted 03/28/08 7:08pm

Twinkly1

Tame said:

To add:
She must love him as he drags his amp over the kitchen floor...
She must love him when he drives his motorcycle through the front door...
She must love him when his hair is a mess.
She must love him when she hates his tests.
His love must shine when dinner's dessert
His love must shine when she's being a flirt.
His love must be if she skins her knee...
cleaning up the mess He's made for me.
He must love her when she's not funny at all.
She must love him playing basketball.




Don't forget love when he pops a button on one of his coats for the nth time, just prior to going on stange and he needs her to sew it on fast!
lol

BTW, That's nice Tame.
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Reply #41 posted 03/28/08 7:18pm

royalshyness

Twinkly1 said:



Please break it down to me.
biggrin


sometimes u just sing songs about yourself and whoever's in there with you - and all around you.

eye heart prince
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Reply #42 posted 03/29/08 1:12am

justbeecause

guess i imagined love would be acceptance...

that you may not 'like' everything the person you love does, says, wears..etc, but that doesnt make you love them less...

if love is based on those things i 'like', and called into question when there are things i dont like, then would that be love... with such conditions?
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Reply #43 posted 03/29/08 1:46am

royalshyness

nevermind lol
[Edited 3/29/08 2:41am]
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Reply #44 posted 03/29/08 3:00am

wildgoldenhone
y

justbeecause said:

guess i imagined love would be acceptance...

that you may not 'like' everything the person you love does, says, wears..etc, but that doesnt make you love them less...

if love is based on those things i 'like', and called into question when there are things i dont like, then would that be love... with such conditions?

True...
hrmph
.....I guess.
Sometimes some things
my bf does drives me insane,
but I still love him.
mushy

I feel like I'm forever condemned to insanity... neutral
doh!
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Reply #45 posted 03/29/08 6:21am

Billmenever

Tame said:

I was listening to, "The Lion of Judah." and it's riddle-like apology.

Within the lyrics, Prince clearly addresses someone in particular, with several lines and the overall emotion.

-Thinking about the words that I can use to get this through to you.
-A million mistakes and then some, I've made with the ones b4.
But still I adore u.
-I probably should be happy but I'm still not sure if u really love me...
-Lookin' 4 the energy to take u there, the places u wanna go...
Knowing if I do, your'e fully aware, the press will turn it into a show.
-The one that will stand by my side, through the good, and the bad.
Let that one stand with pride.
-Wondering how u will feel when u find out, how much I really care.
-2 gypsy bandits who only by grace came to be a star.
-Like the lion of Judah...we will hear the trumpet sound.

I have been taken by Prince riddles before...and Prince seems to keep us guessing quite often.

All I can gather, is this person is not in the limelight...but Prince doubts her love 4 him...Prince seems afraid to approach her...I ponder the emotions of this girl.

What are your thoughts of this curious song?
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martini
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Reply #46 posted 03/29/08 6:43am

justbeecause



True...

.....I guess.
Sometimes some things
my bf does drives me insane,
but I still love him.


I feel like I'm forever condemned to insanity...


i dont think its insanity... its just lifes lessons...no?

hey, what do i know anyway... biggrin
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Reply #47 posted 03/29/08 9:17am

royalshyness

C0RAZ0N said:



Yes true love will be there no matter what but is it love if he expects her to put up with everything even if he might mistreat her what about love is also being giving or willing to make changes or compromise or respect for her feelings too?



in the song it says he cares about her and isnt sure if she loves him.

i propose he doesnt care about her, it's just something guys say sometimes to get what they want.

he doesnt love her either, so him not being sure about her love for him is more about him not being sure of his love for himself or even her.

try to remember prince is bonkers.
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Reply #48 posted 03/29/08 11:52am

royalshyness

and i mean bonkers in a good way. anyway, closing statement from the united front on what is and what is not love oy! haha.

someone can have a loving heart, but not necessarily know how to love.

think of the heart 'chakra' ( center of the chest ) as being a portal through which this warm silky yumminess flows.

it flows to those who are aligned with it, no matter how far apart they are. for example, someone can post this heart on these boards, and if the love in it is real and pure, i'll feel it even when i'm offline.

the energy of love does not conform to the laws of space and time. it knows no distance and is entirely instant.

that being said, the nergy itself may be love, but its a different thing altogether to speak that love, and let it flow out of your mouth and your mind as well.

its easier to let it flow in song or poetry, because the rhythm of rhyme is compatible with the tone of love, the language of love is poetic.

if the mind, or conditionings, or fears and insecurities, or even just being a lil starstruck, is present in the individual, they may not speak love, and they may even constrict and tighten up and withold the love they have in their heart, because they might be nervous, wanting to impress, or even dominate in a show of male virility...if the person is male.

you can have a loving heart drenching everyone in its goodness, but if u do not have that same love for yourself, you're just a giver, not a receiver, of love.

to receive love, to actually feel the warmth of it coming to you from someone else, you have to love yourself first, let go defences, overlook the little things, have no fear and just let it in.

some people can even use love for negative intentions, like bolstering themselves up at other peoples expense, they offer love, then the minds insecurities cut in and they withdraw it and suck your power out of you. the love they offer is conditional, like if they dont like what they see in return they withdraw it.

true love just keeps on loving no matter what, and the only way u can do that is if you fill yourself up with it, and rely on no one else to give it to you. the supply of love has to come from within yourself.

if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them, if for some reason your childhood left you broken-hearted. similarly, if you have a foggy mind, your twin soul might give you theirs. but thats a different matter to what we're talkin about love and what it is, the difference betwen the feeling of it, and what it takes to really put it into action in a lasting way.

i cant even remember the name of the song as i'm typing this, but for what its worth, i know i'm loved, God blessed me with some extra kinda blessed experience in this lifetime which is hard to explain, but i know i'm loved. i can feel it, and its a beautiful beautiful thing.

anyway, its some stupid hour in the morning here and i'm off to go back to bed for a bit and snuggle up in the warmth of my silky self ehehe.

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Reply #49 posted 03/29/08 1:07pm

Maia7

royalshyness said:

and i mean bonkers in a good way. anyway, closing statement from the united front on what is and what is not love oy! haha.

someone can have a loving heart, but not necessarily know how to love.

think of the heart 'chakra' ( center of the chest ) as being a portal through which this warm silky yumminess flows.

it flows to those who are aligned with it, no matter how far apart they are. for example, someone can post this heart on these boards, and if the love in it is real and pure, i'll feel it even when i'm offline.

the energy of love does not conform to the laws of space and time. it knows no distance and is entirely instant.

that being said, the nergy itself may be love, but its a different thing altogether to speak that love, and let it flow out of your mouth and your mind as well.

its easier to let it flow in song or poetry, because the rhythm of rhyme is compatible with the tone of love, the language of love is poetic.

if the mind, or conditionings, or fears and insecurities, or even just being a lil starstruck, is present in the individual, they may not speak love, and they may even constrict and tighten up and withold the love they have in their heart, because they might be nervous, wanting to impress, or even dominate in a show of male virility...if the person is male.

you can have a loving heart drenching everyone in its goodness, but if u do not have that same love for yourself, you're just a giver, not a receiver, of love.

to receive love, to actually feel the warmth of it coming to you from someone else, you have to love yourself first, let go defences, overlook the little things, have no fear and just let it in.

some people can even use love for negative intentions, like bolstering themselves up at other peoples expense, they offer love, then the minds insecurities cut in and they withdraw it and suck your power out of you. the love they offer is conditional, like if they dont like what they see in return they withdraw it.

true love just keeps on loving no matter what, and the only way u can do that is if you fill yourself up with it, and rely on no one else to give it to you. the supply of love has to come from within yourself.

if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them, if for some reason your childhood left you broken-hearted. similarly, if you have a foggy mind, your twin soul might give you theirs. but thats a different matter to what we're talkin about love and what it is, the difference betwen the feeling of it, and what it takes to really put it into action in a lasting way.

i cant even remember the name of the song as i'm typing this, but for what its worth, i know i'm loved, God blessed me with some extra kinda blessed experience in this lifetime which is hard to explain, but i know i'm loved. i can feel it, and its a beautiful beautiful thing.

anyway, its some stupid hour in the morning here and i'm off to go back to bed for a bit and snuggle up in the warmth of my silky self ehehe.

heart




rose biggrin
dove dove dove dove dove dove dove
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Reply #50 posted 03/29/08 3:34pm

CJanssen

royalshyness said:

and i mean bonkers in a good way. anyway, closing statement from the united front on what is and what is not love oy! haha.

someone can have a loving heart, but not necessarily know how to love.

think of the heart 'chakra' ( center of the chest ) as being a portal through which this warm silky yumminess flows.

it flows to those who are aligned with it, no matter how far apart they are. for example, someone can post this heart on these boards, and if the love in it is real and pure, i'll feel it even when i'm offline.

the energy of love does not conform to the laws of space and time. it knows no distance and is entirely instant.

that being said, the nergy itself may be love, but its a different thing altogether to speak that love, and let it flow out of your mouth and your mind as well.

its easier to let it flow in song or poetry, because the rhythm of rhyme is compatible with the tone of love, the language of love is poetic.

if the mind, or conditionings, or fears and insecurities, or even just being a lil starstruck, is present in the individual, they may not speak love, and they may even constrict and tighten up and withold the love they have in their heart, because they might be nervous, wanting to impress, or even dominate in a show of male virility...if the person is male.

you can have a loving heart drenching everyone in its goodness, but if u do not have that same love for yourself, you're just a giver, not a receiver, of love.

to receive love, to actually feel the warmth of it coming to you from someone else, you have to love yourself first, let go defences, overlook the little things, have no fear and just let it in.

some people can even use love for negative intentions, like bolstering themselves up at other peoples expense, they offer love, then the minds insecurities cut in and they withdraw it and suck your power out of you. the love they offer is conditional, like if they dont like what they see in return they withdraw it.

true love just keeps on loving no matter what, and the only way u can do that is if you fill yourself up with it, and rely on no one else to give it to you. the supply of love has to come from within yourself.

if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them, if for some reason your childhood left you broken-hearted. similarly, if you have a foggy mind, your twin soul might give you theirs. but thats a different matter to what we're talkin about love and what it is, the difference betwen the feeling of it, and what it takes to really put it into action in a lasting way.

i cant even remember the name of the song as i'm typing this, but for what its worth, i know i'm loved, God blessed me with some extra kinda blessed experience in this lifetime which is hard to explain, but i know i'm loved. i can feel it, and its a beautiful beautiful thing.

anyway, its some stupid hour in the morning here and i'm off to go back to bed for a bit and snuggle up in the warmth of my silky self ehehe.

heart


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Reply #51 posted 03/29/08 6:17pm

royalshyness

alioop! morning troops. biggrin
~here's a pic from 1 of my fav sites.

12.2 magic wand
http://vitarka.org/ankh/twelvetwo.html
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Reply #52 posted 03/30/08 2:01am

Flo6

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"i cant even remember the name of the song as i'm typing this, but for what its worth, i know i'm loved, God blessed me with some extra kinda blessed experience in this lifetime which is hard to explain, but i know i'm loved. i can feel it, and its a beautiful beautiful thing."

You mean you feel like in 'Beautiful, Loved and Blessed'?
One of my favs.


"...the only way u can do that is if you fill yourself up with it, and rely on no one else to give it to you. the supply of love has to come from within yourself."

DIY-style - I applaud it.


"if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them,..."

I'm a Gemini - do I have a twin soul??.. Or do you mean on a less literal/more spiritual level? Perhaps some kind of person/angel watching over you, advising you?..


"anyway, its some stupid hour in the morning here..."

No hour/time is stupid!smile - especially for doing something you enjoy/love I think.









royalshyness said:

and i mean bonkers in a good way. anyway, closing statement from the united front on what is and what is not love oy! haha.

someone can have a loving heart, but not necessarily know how to love.

think of the heart 'chakra' ( center of the chest ) as being a portal through which this warm silky yumminess flows.

it flows to those who are aligned with it, no matter how far apart they are. for example, someone can post this heart on these boards, and if the love in it is real and pure, i'll feel it even when i'm offline.

the energy of love does not conform to the laws of space and time. it knows no distance and is entirely instant.

that being said, the nergy itself may be love, but its a different thing altogether to speak that love, and let it flow out of your mouth and your mind as well.

its easier to let it flow in song or poetry, because the rhythm of rhyme is compatible with the tone of love, the language of love is poetic.

if the mind, or conditionings, or fears and insecurities, or even just being a lil starstruck, is present in the individual, they may not speak love, and they may even constrict and tighten up and withold the love they have in their heart, because they might be nervous, wanting to impress, or even dominate in a show of male virility...if the person is male.

you can have a loving heart drenching everyone in its goodness, but if u do not have that same love for yourself, you're just a giver, not a receiver, of love.

to receive love, to actually feel the warmth of it coming to you from someone else, you have to love yourself first, let go defences, overlook the little things, have no fear and just let it in.

some people can even use love for negative intentions, like bolstering themselves up at other peoples expense, they offer love, then the minds insecurities cut in and they withdraw it and suck your power out of you. the love they offer is conditional, like if they dont like what they see in return they withdraw it.

true love just keeps on loving no matter what, and the only way u can do that is if you fill yourself up with it, and rely on no one else to give it to you. the supply of love has to come from within yourself.

if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them, if for some reason your childhood left you broken-hearted. similarly, if you have a foggy mind, your twin soul might give you theirs. but thats a different matter to what we're talkin about love and what it is, the difference betwen the feeling of it, and what it takes to really put it into action in a lasting way.

i cant even remember the name of the song as i'm typing this, but for what its worth, i know i'm loved, God blessed me with some extra kinda blessed experience in this lifetime which is hard to explain, but i know i'm loved. i can feel it, and its a beautiful beautiful thing.

anyway, its some stupid hour in the morning here and i'm off to go back to bed for a bit and snuggle up in the warmth of my silky self ehehe.

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Reply #53 posted 03/30/08 2:14am

royalshyness

Flo6 said:



"if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them,..."

Perhaps some kind of person/angel watching over you, advising you?..



always, and 'pity the fool' who doesnt listen. heart
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Reply #54 posted 03/30/08 3:11am

Flo6

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For a long time I've looked for a tutor, until I realized it was me.

Do you believe he/she is 'protecting' you too - or is it taking it too far?






royalshyness said:

Flo6 said:



"if you have a twin soul, you might even get it from them,..."

Perhaps some kind of person/angel watching over you, advising you?..



always, and 'pity the fool' who doesnt listen. heart
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Reply #55 posted 03/30/08 3:27am

royalshyness

Flo6 said:

Do you believe he/she is 'protecting' you too - or is it taking it too far?


i thnk its only taking it too far if the protection being done is done without askin me if thats what i want. maybe they protecting me from things that arent really a problem.

its nice to make ur own choices y'know wink heart
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Reply #56 posted 04/03/08 12:47am

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"its nice to make ur own choices y'know wink"
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royalshyness said:

Flo6 said:

Do you believe he/she is 'protecting' you too - or is it taking it too far?


i thnk its only taking it too far if the protection being done is done without askin me if thats what i want. maybe they protecting me from things that arent really a problem.

its nice to make ur own choices y'know wink heart
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