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Reply #30 posted 03/20/08 5:38pm

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Reply #31 posted 03/20/08 7:25pm

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SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

We've discussed this before Soul and I'm on the darker side of things. I NEVER thought that Alphabet St should have been a single. I never thought P should have recorded it in the first place! Let alone it being a single. This is the order I think P should have got down in:

1)Lovesexy
2)Positivity
3)Eye No
4)Anna Stesia
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Reply #32 posted 03/20/08 7:28pm

Anji

Lovesexy was considered by P as a single.
He even made a new remix for radio.
Would you like to hear it?
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Reply #33 posted 03/20/08 11:22pm

Snap

yep, i remember the announcement
"Lovesexy" was to be the next single
damn, what happened?
shoulda been

btw, "Alphabet St." was a perfect 1st single
IMESHO
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Reply #34 posted 03/21/08 12:14am

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RumAndRaisin said:

alphabet st was a perfect 1st single, and thats prooved by it being a top 10 in loads of countrys

Reached number one here - same time as the album hit number 1
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Reply #35 posted 03/21/08 2:59am

abigail05

I wish he'd recorded a different record altogether. Lovesexy to me was corny and I never truly "bought" it. And releasing the cd as a single-track deal, that was insanity
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Reply #36 posted 03/21/08 4:52am

SoulAlive

GottaLetitgo said:

SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.



I still remember, 20 years ago, pleading with a DJ to play "Glam Slam". The radio station had played "Alphabet St." about 8 million times but the DJ said that, by decision of management, they would never, ever play "Glam Slam".

Was it the "flicka nipple" line that scared radio away?


In my area,I heard "Glam Slam" on the radio about two times lol That song didn't take off at all.It bored listeners and yes,the wierd lyrics in the bridge didn't help matters,lol.
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Reply #37 posted 03/21/08 4:55am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

I remember hearing Lovesexy blaring out of cars. It was one of the first Prince songs that had a heavy bass kick and heavy funk sound.I think it would have had a bigger appeal to the R&B/New Jack Swing crowd. Which he was lacking at the time. Glam Slam was really a bad choice period for a single. The Glam Slam remix is more cheese than Velvetta. sad


I know that "Lovesexy" would have been a major hit if it had been a single.In my area,our local R&B radio station was playing that song like crazy,when the album was first released.It was well received.The song has a big,heavy bassline,a strong,catchy chorus,and a danceable groove.All it needed was a great video!! Prince missed out on a golden opportunity.


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Reply #38 posted 03/21/08 4:56am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

We've discussed this before Soul and I'm on the darker side of things. I NEVER thought that Alphabet St should have been a single. I never thought P should have recorded it in the first place! Let alone it being a single. This is the order I think P should have got down in:

1)Lovesexy
2)Positivity
3)Eye No
4)Anna Stesia


wow,so you really don't like "Alphabet St"? I agree with you,the title track would have been a SMASH.
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Reply #39 posted 03/21/08 1:29pm

TheMightyCeles
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IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.
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Reply #40 posted 03/21/08 2:37pm

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TheMightyCelestial said:

IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.


I agree.

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Reply #41 posted 03/21/08 2:40pm

Graycap23

This is NOT music.....this is a trip.
Very yes.
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Reply #42 posted 03/21/08 6:06pm

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I think he should have released it as follows....

Alphabet St (2 months out)
Lovesexy (2 weeks out)
Album release
When 2 R In Love

If sales were going well, the remix of eye know as a forth single.
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Reply #43 posted 03/24/08 12:05am

Snap

TheMightyCelestial said:

IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.


you do know there's a world out there outside of the USA, don't ya?
Lovesexy was Prince's biggest commercial success in Europe and elsewhere
it compared to the hype of Purple Rain here in the States, maybe even moreso
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Reply #44 posted 03/24/08 3:32am

SoulAlive

TheMightyCelestial said:

IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.



Don't you think the album cover had alot to do with it? I think the album would have sold better if Prince had released the title track as the second single,and chose a less controversial cover photo wink
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Reply #45 posted 03/24/08 3:34am

SoulAlive

SquirrelMeat said:

I think he should have released it as follows....

Alphabet St (2 months out)
Lovesexy (2 weeks out)
Album release
When 2 R In Love

If sales were going well, the remix of eye know as a forth single.



those are exactly the singles I would have chosen! In that order,too.Except....I don't know about "Eye Know".I just can't see that song being a single.Three strong singles would have been enough for this album.
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Reply #46 posted 03/24/08 8:21am

DecaturStone

Anji said:

Lovesexy was considered by P as a single.
He even made a new remix for radio.
Would you like to hear it?

YES! eek
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Reply #47 posted 03/24/08 12:25pm

TheMightyCeles
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Snap said:

TheMightyCelestial said:

IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.


you do know there's a world out there outside of the USA, don't ya?
Lovesexy was Prince's biggest commercial success in Europe and elsewhere
it compared to the hype of Purple Rain here in the States, maybe even moreso

Yes, I know that Lovesexy was more successful (especially the tour) outside of the US. However, I still could've sworn that the numbers for the follow-up singles & of the albums sold were still disappointingly low, especially when compared to his recent previous efforts ( not including PR, since no album really had much chance to match that success ).
Now, I must remind you, that I'm just talking about commercial success here. I think I recall it was critically successful, yet not really considered accessible to a mainstream audience ( or more specifically, considered as accessible.)
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Reply #48 posted 03/24/08 12:27pm

TheMightyCeles
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SoulAlive said:

TheMightyCelestial said:

IMO, Alphabet St. is the only accessible song on the album for anyone from outside of the Purple World.
This album was his lowest selling up to that point, not to mention, that the follow up singles bombed & the Lovesexy Tour was equally non-successful ( I meant that commercially, not creatively. So, to all you fam-ophiles out there, don't gimme any of your shit).
I mean,
don't get me wrong....
back then,
I wanted the whole world to like my favorite artist as much as I do.
But, Lovesexy just wasn't the album to sway it in that direction.
Personally, at the time, I thought Prince was going more for an artistic spiritual expression with a full awareness that he could be sacrificing mainstream radio success in doing so.

Y'know, I guess it just seems to me, after the time that I've spent on this site, that Prince fans have a hard time seperating their particular tastes in music from that of the mainstream. Cuz, I honestly can't see this album ever doin' better commercially that it did, especially with any of the other songs released as an initial single.



Don't you think the album cover had alot to do with it? I think the album would have sold better if Prince had released the title track as the second single,and chose a less controversial cover photo wink

Yeah, I don't think that the album cover helped it's numbers. But what are you gonna do,
right?
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Reply #49 posted 03/24/08 6:29pm

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some prefer commercial success then artisitical and critical success. a lot can b said about commercial success, just look at britney, rhianna and countless others in the 80's and 90's...

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man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #50 posted 03/25/08 6:25am

SoulAlive

DecaturStone said:

Anji said:

Lovesexy was considered by P as a single.
He even made a new remix for radio.
Would you like to hear it?

YES! eek


Yeah,I heard that Prince made several remixes for "Lovesexy".He was gonna release it as a single,but changed his mind.I'd love to hear the remixes!
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Reply #51 posted 03/25/08 6:32am

weejimmy

RumAndRaisin said:

alphabet st was a perfect 1st single, and thats prooved by it being a top 10 in loads of countrys


i agree with this...n 2 state that anna stesia is average is mentel..best song on the album..and when he decided 2 close a lot of the one night alone gigs wit this it was justafied as a daddy tune.."somebody say rise up"
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Reply #52 posted 03/25/08 6:34am

weejimmy

MuthaFunka said:

superspaceboy said:



Yes really. At the time although P could pick the singles, he was under huge pressure to get a solid hit. He had just pulled the Black Album and replaced it with a one-track concept album featuring him nude on the cover. Yeah he needed a hit. WB didn't really see anything radio friendly what-so-ever on the album except for Alphabet St. I think there was a bit of pressure to release that, though he probably would have released it anyway, seeing as it is a strong song to begin with. Honestly, Alpha St wasn't that big either...a mere blip on the music radar. The rest of the album went pretty much unnoticed by the gen pub.


Exactly. You just basically proved my point: Alphabet St. SHOULDN'T have been the 1st single because it was a "blip on the music radar" and why was that? - Because it wasn't "radio-friendly" enough for it to catch on. The same exact issue with SOTT single.


there is nothing on that album that is more radio friendly than alphabet st..theres better tunes..but i know and lovesexy would have been a head fuck 2 the gen public..unless u feel the funk ..nuff said
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Reply #53 posted 03/25/08 7:08am

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Alphabet St: perfect for black radio and crossover radio.
I Wish U Heaven: the album version should have been sent to pop radio.
When 2 R In Love: perfect for black radio and crossover radio--it wasn't serviced as a single to radio.
Yo Mister...I mean, Anna Stesia (ha, ha...same song) might have worked on pop radio.

Who knows?
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Reply #54 posted 03/25/08 8:48am

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weejimmy said:

MuthaFunka said:



Exactly. You just basically proved my point: Alphabet St. SHOULDN'T have been the 1st single because it was a "blip on the music radar" and why was that? - Because it wasn't "radio-friendly" enough for it to catch on. The same exact issue with SOTT single.


there is nothing on that album that is more radio friendly than alphabet st..theres better tunes..but i know and lovesexy would have been a head fuck 2 the gen public..unless u feel the funk ..nuff said


I never said anything about "Radio-friendly" I said "Dance-friendly".
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Reply #55 posted 03/25/08 2:59pm

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"Alphabet St" was a perfect single. It was funky, it had a memorable chorus, and it was a short tune. R&B radio used to play the long version a lot. I always dug the song because it made me imagine Sly singing with the J5.

"LoveSexy" should have been the next single. As Soul was saying before, R&B radio played the hell out of that song back then. When I 1st heard it, it reminded me of "1999". A live performance video would have been killer.

Damn has it been 20 years? I remember being the 1st in line buying this back then...(with the wrecka stow covering the LP cover) lol
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Reply #56 posted 03/25/08 3:23pm

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"When 2 R In Love"
Followed with "Anna Stesia"

Everytime I think about "Alphabet St", I think about that cheesy ass video and I have a good 2 minute laugh and then move on with my day. falloff lol
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Reply #57 posted 03/26/08 3:45am

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estelle81 said:

"When 2 R In Love"
Followed with "Anna Stesia"

Everytime I think about "Alphabet St", I think about that cheesy ass video and I have a good 2 minute laugh and then move on with my day. falloff lol


u ain't right falloff
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #58 posted 03/26/08 4:34am

SoulAlive

I like the "Alphabet St." video boxed
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Reply #59 posted 03/26/08 8:07am

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SoulAlive said:

I like the "Alphabet St." video boxed

barf

But I also agree with you and the singles.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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