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Thread started 03/19/08 8:45pm

L4OATheOrigina
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should alphabet st been released as a single?

b4 ya jump down my throat, i have no problems with alphabet st being released as a 1st single, in discussing with friends, some feel that the song shouldn't have even been on lovesexy at all.

so what single do u think off of lovesexy should have been released as a first single and subsequent singles off of lovesexy. replace alphabet st with any number of outtakes from 1978-1988 and come up with ur version of lovesexy

1st single-the voice inside
2nd single i wish u heaven
3rd single anna stesia

lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #1 posted 03/19/08 8:58pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

b4 ya jump down my throat, i have no problems with alphabet st being released as a 1st single, in discussing with friends, some feel that the song shouldn't have even been on lovesexy at all.

so what single do u think off of lovesexy should have been released as a first single and subsequent singles off of lovesexy. replace alphabet st with any number of outtakes from 1978-1988 and come up with ur version of lovesexy

1st single-the voice inside
2nd single i wish u heaven
3rd single anna stesia

lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity


Out of that entire album I only really love Alphabet st. When 2 r in Love is pretty good, Glam Slam is too corny for my liking, Anna Stesia is average and the other tracks are sluggishly forgettable. I could never get into that album, but my opinion could change of course.
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Reply #2 posted 03/19/08 9:04pm

Amaxx

Now that I've thought about it and replayed the album in my mind! I wish U heaven shoul've been the 1st Single! cool
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Reply #3 posted 03/20/08 12:39am

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alphabet st was a perfect 1st single, and thats prooved by it being a top 10 in loads of countrys
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Reply #4 posted 03/20/08 4:20am

Tame

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I agree that "Alphabet Street," was the right choice..."Eye No," could have been, attempted...and "When 2 R in Love.." is beautiful...but it would have been too slow to release as a first single.
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Reply #5 posted 03/20/08 4:30am

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L4OATheOriginal said:


lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity


Tracklisting:

" No" – 5:47
"Alphabet St." – 5:38
"Glam Slam" – 5:04
"Anna Stesia" – 4:56
"Dance On" – 3:44
"Lovesexy" – 5:48
"When 2 R In Love" – 4:01
"I Wish U Heaven" – 2:43
"Positivity" – 7:15
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Reply #6 posted 03/20/08 4:42am

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darlingomo said:

L4OATheOriginal said:


lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity


Tracklisting:

" No" – 5:47
"Alphabet St." – 5:38
"Glam Slam" – 5:04
"Anna Stesia" – 4:56
"Dance On" – 3:44
"Lovesexy" – 5:48
"When 2 R In Love" – 4:01
"I Wish U Heaven" – 2:43
"Positivity" – 7:15

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Reply #7 posted 03/20/08 4:51am

SoulAlive

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)
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Reply #8 posted 03/20/08 4:52am

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SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

Agree completely.
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Reply #9 posted 03/20/08 7:30am

DecaturStone

SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

I remember hearing Lovesexy blaring out of cars. It was one of the first Prince songs that had a heavy bass kick and heavy funk sound.I think it would have had a bigger appeal to the R&B/New Jack Swing crowd. Which he was lacking at the time. Glam Slam was really a bad choice period for a single. The Glam Slam remix is more cheese than Velvetta. sad
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Reply #10 posted 03/20/08 7:32am

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SoulAlive said:

"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.

These should have been the singles,in this order...

"Alphabet St"
"Lovesexy"
"When 2 R In Love" (woulda been a huge hit on R&B radio)

I agree with you completely on this.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #11 posted 03/20/08 7:38am

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Reply #12 posted 03/20/08 8:18am

L4OATheOrigina
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NouveauDance said:

darlingomo said:



Tracklisting:

" No" – 5:47
"Alphabet St." – 5:38
"Glam Slam" – 5:04
"Anna Stesia" – 4:56
"Dance On" – 3:44
"Lovesexy" – 5:48
"When 2 R In Love" – 4:01
"I Wish U Heaven" – 2:43
"Positivity" – 7:15

falloff



i'm with u on that .wth falloff
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #13 posted 03/20/08 8:28am

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I wouldn't change a thing about 'Lovesexy'.

I also think that "Alphabet St" was the perfect choice 4 the lead single.

"Eye No" would have also made a great single release.
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Reply #14 posted 03/20/08 10:46am

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Well, it shouldn't have been released as the lead single. It should have been W2RIL. Now I know it's not the norm to release a slow cut as a lead single but P was WELL beyond "the norm". AS wasn't "danceable" and right around then was when the dance scene was blowing up. People kept telling me "I can't dance to that shit, why'd he make that cut like that?".
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Reply #15 posted 03/20/08 10:54am

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Giovanni777 said:

I wouldn't change a thing about 'Lovesexy'.

I also think that "Alphabet St" was the perfect choice 4 the lead single.

"Eye No" would have also made a great single release.

nod

The only thing I'd humor is "Eye No" as the 2nd single instead of "Glam Slam."
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μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #16 posted 03/20/08 12:47pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

b4 ya jump down my throat, i have no problems with alphabet st being released as a 1st single, in discussing with friends, some feel that the song shouldn't have even been on lovesexy at all.

so what single do u think off of lovesexy should have been released as a first single and subsequent singles off of lovesexy. replace alphabet st with any number of outtakes from 1978-1988 and come up with ur version of lovesexy

1st single-the voice inside
2nd single i wish u heaven
3rd single anna stesia

lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity


It's not Lovesexy w/o Alphabet St. IMO

Considering the nature and lyrical content of the songs, Alphabet St made the most sense. Now Glam Slam and IWYH as singles I do question esp Glam Slam. I think Lovesexy or Eye No would have been good choices. Anna Stasia is too complex for radio.

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Reply #17 posted 03/20/08 12:52pm

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MuthaFunka said:

Well, it shouldn't have been released as the lead single. It should have been W2RIL. Now I know it's not the norm to release a slow cut as a lead single but P was WELL beyond "the norm". AS wasn't "danceable" and right around then was when the dance scene was blowing up. People kept telling me "I can't dance to that shit, why'd he make that cut like that?".


Considering the poor choice of singles From SOTT coupled with that SOTT did not sell nearly as much as it could have, An up-tempo track was the correct choice.

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Reply #18 posted 03/20/08 1:20pm

MuthaFunka

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superspaceboy said:

MuthaFunka said:

Well, it shouldn't have been released as the lead single. It should have been W2RIL. Now I know it's not the norm to release a slow cut as a lead single but P was WELL beyond "the norm". AS wasn't "danceable" and right around then was when the dance scene was blowing up. People kept telling me "I can't dance to that shit, why'd he make that cut like that?".


Considering the poor choice of singles From SOTT coupled with that SOTT did not sell nearly as much as it could have, An up-tempo track was the correct choice.


Not really, because the exact same thing was said about the single SOTT: "You can't dance to it". P doesn't care but the Plantation Brothers did.
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underthegraffitibridge said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

b4 ya jump down my throat, i have no problems with alphabet st being released as a 1st single, in discussing with friends, some feel that the song shouldn't have even been on lovesexy at all.

so what single do u think off of lovesexy should have been released as a first single and subsequent singles off of lovesexy. replace alphabet st with any number of outtakes from 1978-1988 and come up with ur version of lovesexy

1st single-the voice inside
2nd single i wish u heaven
3rd single anna stesia

lovesexy lp
1. eye no
2. god is alive
3. the voice inside
4. anna stesia
5. dance on
6. lovesexy
7. when 2 r in love
8. i wish u heaven
9. positivity


Out of that entire album I only really love Alphabet st. When 2 r in Love is pretty good, Glam Slam is too corny for my liking, Anna Stesia is average and the other tracks are sluggishly forgettable. I could never get into that album, but my opinion could change of course.

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Reply #20 posted 03/20/08 2:24pm

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MuthaFunka said:

superspaceboy said:



Considering the poor choice of singles From SOTT coupled with that SOTT did not sell nearly as much as it could have, An up-tempo track was the correct choice.


Not really, because the exact same thing was said about the single SOTT: "You can't dance to it". P doesn't care but the Plantation Brothers did.


Yes really. At the time although P could pick the singles, he was under huge pressure to get a solid hit. He had just pulled the Black Album and replaced it with a one-track concept album featuring him nude on the cover. Yeah he needed a hit. WB didn't really see anything radio friendly what-so-ever on the album except for Alphabet St. I think there was a bit of pressure to release that, though he probably would have released it anyway, seeing as it is a strong song to begin with. Honestly, Alpha St wasn't that big either...a mere blip on the music radar. The rest of the album went pretty much unnoticed by the gen pub.

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Reply #21 posted 03/20/08 2:45pm

MuthaFunka

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superspaceboy said:

MuthaFunka said:



Not really, because the exact same thing was said about the single SOTT: "You can't dance to it". P doesn't care but the Plantation Brothers did.


Yes really. At the time although P could pick the singles, he was under huge pressure to get a solid hit. He had just pulled the Black Album and replaced it with a one-track concept album featuring him nude on the cover. Yeah he needed a hit. WB didn't really see anything radio friendly what-so-ever on the album except for Alphabet St. I think there was a bit of pressure to release that, though he probably would have released it anyway, seeing as it is a strong song to begin with. Honestly, Alpha St wasn't that big either...a mere blip on the music radar. The rest of the album went pretty much unnoticed by the gen pub.


Exactly. You just basically proved my point: Alphabet St. SHOULDN'T have been the 1st single because it was a "blip on the music radar" and why was that? - Because it wasn't "radio-friendly" enough for it to catch on. The same exact issue with SOTT single.
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MuthaFunka said:

superspaceboy said:



Yes really. At the time although P could pick the singles, he was under huge pressure to get a solid hit. He had just pulled the Black Album and replaced it with a one-track concept album featuring him nude on the cover. Yeah he needed a hit. WB didn't really see anything radio friendly what-so-ever on the album except for Alphabet St. I think there was a bit of pressure to release that, though he probably would have released it anyway, seeing as it is a strong song to begin with. Honestly, Alpha St wasn't that big either...a mere blip on the music radar. The rest of the album went pretty much unnoticed by the gen pub.


Exactly. You just basically proved my point: Alphabet St. SHOULDN'T have been the 1st single because it was a "blip on the music radar" and why was that? - Because it wasn't "radio-friendly" enough for it to catch on. The same exact issue with SOTT single.


No, I think Alphabet St should have been the first single. It was up-beat and the lyrics were sing songy. Anything else chosen as this first single probably would not have done as well. Although any single by P at that point, esp a lead off single would have fared well....perhaps...as any of the other potentials would be too complex or strange or slow. Alphabet St was the most accessable and therefore should have been the lead single off of an album that really didn't have any singles screaming to be released.

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Reply #23 posted 03/20/08 3:30pm

MuthaFunka

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superspaceboy said:

MuthaFunka said:



Exactly. You just basically proved my point: Alphabet St. SHOULDN'T have been the 1st single because it was a "blip on the music radar" and why was that? - Because it wasn't "radio-friendly" enough for it to catch on. The same exact issue with SOTT single.


No, I think Alphabet St should have been the first single. It was up-beat and the lyrics were sing songy. Anything else chosen as this first single probably would not have done as well. Although any single by P at that point, esp a lead off single would have fared well....perhaps...as any of the other potentials would be too complex or strange or slow. Alphabet St was the most accessable and therefore should have been the lead single off of an album that really didn't have any singles screaming to be released.


And it was obviously a bad choice because it didn't do much on the charts. I just see W2RIL would have been a better choice.
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The thing that most people seem to be forgetting here is that "Alphabet St." was a top ten hit single--peaking at #8 on Billboard's hot 100 and #3 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks.

I'd say that alone justifies its release as the first single.
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Reply #25 posted 03/20/08 4:19pm

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its the most interesting song on the record. of couse it should have been released.
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MuthaFunka said:

Well, it shouldn't have been released as the lead single. It should have been W2RIL. Now I know it's not the norm to release a slow cut as a lead single but P was WELL beyond "the norm". AS wasn't "danceable" and right around then was when the dance scene was blowing up. People kept telling me "I can't dance to that shit, why'd he make that cut like that?".


if they couldn't dance 2 it, then they just can't DANCE period nod
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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December1984 said:

The thing that most people seem to be forgetting here is that "Alphabet St." was a top ten hit single--peaking at #8 on Billboard's hot 100 and #3 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks.

I'd say that alone justifies its release as the first single.


For real? I thought it kinda fizzled. Damn. Nevermind then. spit
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L4OATheOriginal said:

MuthaFunka said:

Well, it shouldn't have been released as the lead single. It should have been W2RIL. Now I know it's not the norm to release a slow cut as a lead single but P was WELL beyond "the norm". AS wasn't "danceable" and right around then was when the dance scene was blowing up. People kept telling me "I can't dance to that shit, why'd he make that cut like that?".


if they couldn't dance 2 it, then they just can't DANCE period nod


lol Probably so!
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Reply #29 posted 03/20/08 5:38pm

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"Alphabet St." was the right choice for the first single.I think Prince screwed up with the second single."Glam Slam" is a good album track,but it was the too boring for pop radio.I can see why it flopped as a single.



I still remember, 20 years ago, pleading with a DJ to play "Glam Slam". The radio station had played "Alphabet St." about 8 million times but the DJ said that, by decision of management, they would never, ever play "Glam Slam".

Was it the "flicka nipple" line that scared radio away?
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