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PrintableSquirrelMeat said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: Okay, im gonna try to attempt to finish my original post.
When I think Prince, 1999 & PR come to mind immediately because that's how I was first exposed to him. But I believe SoTT is his best work. I had dismissed the possibility of converting a non-fan in2 one of us because if you have a certain idea about Prince in your head, nothing is going to make you think otherwise. You either have the capability or you don't. After listening to SoTT, I believe it is the one album that can convert anyone. It explains all of the sides of Prince in one album. It takes everything Prince has accomplished up to this point and puts it together and here he reaches levels of greatness that haven't been seen since. If  was ur girlfriend is a classic example of one of the songs unique to this album and that's something so exquisite that the likes of it haven't been seen since.I agree SOTT is THE album. For me, its simply for this... No other album contains so my genres and styles whilst continuing to sound like one concept. Although the album is a pasted together mish mash, the final layout and tracks chosen knit together to make the perfect musical journey. Couldn't have put it better myself SqirrelMeat. It's an absolute gem  Cry cry cry i love it when U moan, this funk will cut so deep gonna touch u're soul oh! | |
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Anji said: I would argue that these records are the quintessential Prince albums. Many other albums have been essential to his development as an artist (e.g. Dirty Mind, Parade, Lovesexy, The Gold Experience, The Rainbow Children) but none reach the overall importance of the quintessential three.
I agree, but only on a personal level. I think that if I were to try to put any of Prince's albums in context of the general music world, it would tend to detract from my enjoyment of the music. What I heard on my ears from 1999, Purple Rain & SOTT was creativity that was backed by a combined enthusiasm of expansion & energy that made the music sound more original than anything that I had ever heard before or since (regardless of whether they are considered so by anyone else). Now, judging from the over-all tastes that I've always read here on the org, many don't feel that way. But to be honest, Anj.... when I'm working late at night, the TV off, chances of getting a phone call or getting interupted are incredibly low, and it's just me & these 3 albums, I'm probably as close to musical heaven as I can probably get. And when I'm in that place, what anybody else thinx, no matter how intelligent, no matter how many statistics or math they can muster to prove the invalidity of the importance of any of these albums, it will never be enough to take away the feeling that this music tends to stir up in me, even if I wanted it too. When I'm in that place, no opinions matter. Not even my own. Just the exuberance that feel when I listen to the music. I'm enjoying the music at the highest level. And if there is a God, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way He intended us (or at the very least, me) to enjoy it when He first created the whole concept of music. | |
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Anji said: I would argue that these records are the quintessential Prince albums. Many other albums have been essential to his development as an artist (e.g. Dirty Mind, Parade, Lovesexy, The Gold Experience, The Rainbow Children) but none reach the overall importance of the quintessential three.
It is a shame that Controversy is looked upon as a lesser album when it was the initial first punch that kicked everything into high gear.The lp itself was a really good seller going to #21 which was his highest peak on the Billboard 200 at that time,while hitting #3 on the (then)black charts.It really was also the blueprint for his 1st "trinity" which is not "1999","Purple Rain",and "Around The World In a Day",but The Times "What Time Is It?",Vanity 6's "Vanity 6" and his own "1999".The single was his third Hot 100 entry(reaching #70) and his second biggest hit to date(following "I wanna be your lover")on the black charts(and overall) by hitting #3(for what I believe was 4 weeks)but more importantly paired with "Let's Work" it ruled the dance charts at #1 for 6 weeks and something like 26 weeks on the chart all together(I got that info from andwedanced.com).His chart dominace started with the dace charts where he has gained 10 #1 singles making him the #1 male dance artist. | |
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BabyYoureATrip said: SquirrelMeat said: I agree SOTT is THE album. For me, its simply for this... No other album contains so my genres and styles whilst continuing to sound like one concept. Although the album is a pasted together mish mash, the final layout and tracks chosen knit together to make the perfect musical journey. Couldn't have put it better myself SqirrelMeat. It's an absolute gem Total genius, but I've tried it on quite a few non-Prince fans and it didn't turn them on whereas other albums have (depends very much on the person). | |
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TheMightyCelestial said: But to be honest, Anj....
when I'm working late at night, the TV off, chances of getting a phone call or getting interupted are incredibly low, and it's just me & these 3 albums, I'm probably as close to musical heaven as I can probably get. And when I'm in that place, what anybody else thinx, no matter how intelligent, no matter how many statistics or math they can muster to prove the invalidity of the importance of any of these albums, it will never be enough to take away the feeling that this music tends to stir up in me, even if I wanted it too. When I'm in that place, no opinions matter. Not even my own. Just the exuberance that feel when I listen to the music. I'm enjoying the music at the highest level. And if there is a God, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way He intended us (or at the very least, me) to enjoy it when He first created the whole concept of music. 
I can just picture you in your darkened room... ....in the middle of the night MJ appearing out of the blue... ...behind you whispering into your ear... "You are not alone... ...I am here with you" . [Edited 3/12/08 12:38pm] | |
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But to be honest, Anj....
when I'm working late at night, the TV off, chances of getting a phone call or getting interupted are incredibly low, and it's just me & these 3 albums, I'm probably as close to musical heaven as I can probably get. And when I'm in that place, what anybody else thinx, no matter how intelligent, no matter how many statistics or math they can muster to prove the invalidity of the importance of any of these albums, it will never be enough to take away the feeling that this music tends to stir up in me, even if I wanted it too. When I'm in that place, no opinions matter. Not even my own. Just the exuberance that feel when I listen to the music. I'm enjoying the music at the highest level. And if there is a God, I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way He intended us (or at the very least, me) to enjoy it when He first created the whole concept of music. Lovely post!  You might not like the taste but I'm still gonna stick your face in this FUNK | |
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D & P was the comeback! To Sir, with Love | |
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PEJ said: D & P was the comeback!
comeback from what? he's always been around  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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vivid said: Anji said: Yeah, Dirty Mind is the one I struggle with leaving off the quintessential list but my initial sense went with 1999, Purple Rain and Sign 'O' The Times as representative of the height of his artistic achievements. Dirty Mind was undoubtedly essential to his artistic development but is it on par with the big guns?
Maybe not artistically, but if we're talking quintessential albums, Dirty Mind is where he really 'became' Prince. I agree. Dirty Mind is where P developed his image, and his sound. And his "themes" lyrically. Dirty Mind was a pure "concept" album which he builded upon on Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain and ATWIAD. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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Interesting posts!  | |
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blackguitaristz said: vivid said: Maybe not artistically, but if we're talking quintessential albums, Dirty Mind is where he really 'became' Prince. I agree. Dirty Mind is where P developed his image, and his sound. And his "themes" lyrically. Dirty Mind was a pure "concept" album which he builded upon on Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain and ATWIAD. After deliberating on this topic, Dirty Mind has now found its place amongst the quintessential albums. Thanks for your input, guys. . [Edited 3/22/08 4:04am] | |
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Anji said: blackguitaristz said: I agree. Dirty Mind is where P developed his image, and his sound. And his "themes" lyrically. Dirty Mind was a pure "concept" album which he builded upon on Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain and ATWIAD. After deliberating on this topic, Dirty Mind has now found its place amongst the quintessential albums. Thanks for your input, guys. . [Edited 3/22/08 4:04am] It's always been there in my book. DM, 1999, PR and Parade are my four. Parade before SOTT because his music was becoming more sophisticated by then, Horns, Strings used to good effect for possibly the first time. [Edited 3/22/08 7:20am] |
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Anji said: I would argue that these records are the quintessential Prince albums. Many other albums have been essential to his development as an artist (e.g. Parade, Lovesexy, The Gold Experience, The Rainbow Children) but none reach the overall importance of the quintessential four.
. [Edited 3/22/08 4:05am] And I would agree. You've pretty much described the top 4 albums every fan and non-fan should own. And in order from least to greatest. I personally would put "Parade" in as #5, but I don't wanna create another argument here.  NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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Hmmm,
Dirty Mind Controversy 1999 SOTT Black Lovesexy 
Rainbow Children Planet Earth Maybe Gold and/or Emancipation, too. But not sure if they are quintessential Prince albums. | |
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Anji said: blackguitaristz said: I agree. Dirty Mind is where P developed his image, and his sound. And his "themes" lyrically. Dirty Mind was a pure "concept" album which he builded upon on Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain and ATWIAD. After deliberating on this topic, Dirty Mind has now found its place amongst the quintessential albums. Thanks for your input, guys. I concur. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Anji said: I would argue that these records are the quintessential Prince albums. Many other albums have been essential to his development as an artist (e.g. Parade, Lovesexy, The Gold Experience, The Rainbow Children) but none reach the overall importance of the quintessential four.
. [Edited 3/22/08 4:05am] Dirty Mind = overrated |
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