Yeah, I've smelled it!

It's what I used to about him and made me overlook so much of his bullshit! Sadly, it just doesn't have the same effect on me anymore!

Nvncible1 said:

I agree with your observation 100%. In spite of the show he seems rather vulnerable and he still tries very hard to fit in and to be accepted. You would think a man of 50 years would have overcome many of his insecurities by now, but Prince seems just as vulnerable as he was in his 20s.
I also believe Prince's superior intellect is absolutely underestimated. If Prince would have put his interest into sience instead of music, we would have another Einstein. The man is a genius and a very sexy one at that.
By the way, this is one of the best threads in a long time!

whitewidow said:

How did Winkler ever pass for a high school kid?

All I smell is 3121.

I guess I must love nerdgeeks...

sexxydancer said:

uhmmmph...heh. He definetly is.

He overcompensates for being vertically challenged.

I love his mind! I wish I could hear his thoughts.

lottielooloo1968 said:

I agree

meow85 said:

i cant believe nobody got my joke!

wickyb said:

no hes not a geek

personally as ive said before I think prince is dyslexic a very misunderstood label.

His insecurities would probably stem from that and as a parent of a creative dyslexic i can assure you tantrums getting your own way hissy fits and showboating are all part of the parcel. An unusual sense of colour and style also go wit this.

Also extreme intelligence & creativity whether in science, maths or art, music etc is also part of the package. Over compensating for being thought 'stupid' as a child leads to owning a strut and i dont care air. The worlds ost succesful people tend to be dyslexics because of their unusual take on life. Thinkers like Einstein, Leaders ike Churchill, artists like Keira Knghtly, Tom cruise and outstandingly so - prince

to name but a few of these very talented special people.

I also think this is why he doesnt like the photos when hes playin as its distracting. And many dyslexics have certain habits or rituals.

I really hate this american idea of jocks or geeks its so pigeonholing - why do people need to be categrized in that why. Its like every US kids show has the geeks/nerds with those pocket protector things isnt that a hang over from the 50s do peeps really still send their kids to school looking like that?


ok rant over!

Prince is Dyslexic????

syble said:

wooteva. but when i saw that word, i couldnt read it properly, i thought it was dixlectic.

when i went to type it in to an online dictionary search, i had to try 3 times cuz i couldnt spell it!

that word is enough to make any1 dislectic.

dont eva do that to me again lol i'm serious.

I think so lso explains the camille element we discussed before

Dyslexics often have an unusal gait (my observation) a certain looseness in the way they move. I noticed with Richard Branson as well they seem gangley some how. I know loads of dyslexics and it does seem a commen denomenator although not true for all. (my son can do all those Princey moves and has been able to dance like that since a little kid) hes also very telented singing etc and is pitch perfect.

Plus this explains his odd spellings of things.

explains the fan notes he wrote with 'all those funny signs and spellin'

plus why he refers to it in UTCM: scene in the car, shes reading a poem and shes laughin at his spellin of sky, Im guessin he wrote ski as that is exactly what my son would do a very commen mistake if u r dyslexic and he says,'maybe i got that disease' and she say' what stupido' and he laughs it off. A rference to something very personal it had no place in the film and considering he was suppossed to be a letherio writing sweet nothings to his ladies it seems odd to have written that scene in unless it was something close to him, lets face it the ret of the world are only just learning about dyslexia. some still deny it exists.

I never noticed it before but then i wasnt aware of that kinda thing back then when the film came out.

syble said:

Sorry Hun but I think you're missing alot of facts.


The bit with Mary in the back of the car is Life's a Parade - but she mis pronounces it in some kind of french accent. lif'es a p'rad or something. I'm sure it is in the film for humour reasons. Mary's response of stupid! was to show her as the arrogant, ignorant, spoilt cabbage head she is, not Princes disrespect to a serious subject!

In all my 22 years of Prince fandom, I can not recall any proper confirmation that he is Dyslexic.

I think his mis-spelling, made up words, and symbols are deliberate because he finds it intersting.


You've definately got me thinking though, and I think your previous post (slightly re-worded to be less of a rant on geeks and more focus on the dyslexia) could be quite a good thread.



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sorry metalist i didnt mean it to appear that i thought prince was being disrespectful i think it may have been written into the film because it was an element of himself and she does say about the spelling but i will now go away and rewatch that scene just to check. I watched it only a couple of weeks ago so its still quite fresh in my mind.

Dyslexia wasnt a subject back then and most people struggled without recognition.

Its just my theory but i have always been interested in his spelling long before i had kids or had heard of this (dyslexia). I used to think it was a clever marketing ploy but when i heard that quote from joni about his fan letters it seemed to add up - anyhow as u say it could be he thought it would get him noticed and it did.

i used to know a girl who always did those anoying cicles instead of dots over the letter i, not sure why she did it but as u say maybe just to be different.

syble said:

There's no apology needed here! I still think you have raised an interesting point!!!

Just because something has not been confirmed, it doesn't mean it isn't true.

And your post describing your experience and understanding of having a dyslexic child covers many comparisons that are very similar and relavent to Prince's own personality.

royalshyness said:

Its not a putdown to be called dyslexic its a kinda honour in my mind as altho its a huge label covering many forms of difficulty with the written word it is a label that describes some of the most wonderful people on earth. Dyslexics usualy have a huge vocabulary too they simply find reading harder in the early stages and therefore spelling too. They overcome it as adults and have their own strategies which is why they are so clever. A dyslexic has to go through multiple brain tasks to arrive at the same end point non-dyslexic reach in a few steps ie reading and as adults are therefor more creative.

Wether prince is or is not dyslexic doent matter what is interesting is that the entire world now accepts his shorthand' as the norm for texting and predictive text writes it all for us so its actually cool to write like prince.


Sorry u were troubled by it unless of course u are pulling my leg

and yeh it is a wierd spellin for a word that describes people who have trouble with words.

syble said:

i look at the way people use words in the media, newspapers, magazines, tv etc, and in school, and to be honest, its all very harsh to read.

there's very little flow to the way people think, so when they write, its jarring to the mind.

people dont speak with a sense of poetry or rhythm like they used to, and if ur a soft soul, i can imagine the mind becoming confused on how to read or write things because, i think soft souls are actually seeing the words in the order they should be in, and writing words the way they should be written.

its a harsh world of concrete-type thinkers with no heart that claim differently and call it dyslexic. they are just projecting their own spiritual dyslexicness onto soft souls, who see things the way they really are.

the label/word alone can cause the neurological disorder. as i just discovered.

i'm not an expert on this but they're just my thoughts, which took alot longer to type than usual lol

royalshyness said:

you have an interesting viewpoint and sound spiritual like Tame is


It is the way of the world to label things and u struggle with that concept with a child who has this 'newly labelled' trait. However in a world that requires labels 'geek' 'nerd' 'jock', eccentric, dyslexic, autistic etc we as parents have to work within the 'system' and protect our child. Having this label means he can be taught a different way we dont say he has learning difficulties we say he has differences and because he is unique in that fact he is not one of the sheep, the ordinaries he is one of the creators our society needs to survive as a human race.

I think that what u say is true in that everyone is differnt and we should be able to grow to our full potential in our own ways, unfortunately society pigeonholes us all into neat little boxes and those that dont fit get left by the wayside.

The word dyslexic is merely creating a sense of 'group' for people who share similar difficulties in as you say a concrete world. It gives a sense of unity in that others understand where ur comin from . Much like the org we understand that we are all similar in the one thing that brings us here, we all love Princes music.


Well written by the way but do like ur own style so much better


its all starfish and coffee anyhow

"The definition of geek has changed considerably over time, and there is no longer a definitive meaning. The terms nerd and dork have similar meanings as geek, but many choose to identify different connotations amongst the three terms, although the differences are disputed. In a 2007 interview on The Colbert Report, Richard Clarke said the difference between nerds and geeks is "geeks get it done". Julie Smith defined a geek as "a bright young man turned inward, poorly socialized, who felt so little kinship with his own planet that he routinely traveled to the ones invented by his favorite authors, who thought of that secret, dreamy place his computer took him to as cyberspace—somewhere exciting, a place more real than his own life, a land he could conquer, not a drab teenager's room in his parents' house"."

(Wikipedia)

Nvncible1 said:

no..i see the opposite,even when he wears all those outfits i see somebody who is so secure in their sexuality and being that they can afford to do it because they are not insecure. I think it took alot of courage to go up against the grain of his record company and right slave on his face just to make a point and then come out even more sucessful at the end of it. Its his life to live at the end of the day we all, i think most of us , want happiness and if that means wearing make up, which most males on TV do, and wearing sun glasses with high heels is what he wants to do to make him feel himself why not ..are you his momma?
But your entitled to your opinion, im just stating mine

Prince comes from a time in music when people not only tried to have their own sound, but a look and image of their own, also. He's just being an individual, which is something these current artists haven't known a thing about in more than 15 years.

He needs to continue on with the hair, makeup, and custom made clothes. Stars are supposed to carry themselves like they are better than other people. When they started looking and acting "down to earth", that's when they became boring. As for his shitty attitude, it's not severe enough, because he stills puts an occassional song on his albums that attempt to appeal to today's listeners. It's like an orgasm to my ears when he shits on the current artists but he needs to practice what he preaches and not do any songs that would fit in today.

vainandy said:

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Good Points VainAndy. I am amazed that people don't see that Prince is playing the role of a star. He is not going to be seen out in jeans and a t-shirt.
I also think a lot of people do not understand black cultrue. The George Jefferson walk that people are talking about his P's black strut.

All most all brothers have a strut.

See that? the most adorable, talented man on the planet has to be brilliant too...What else am I being punished for?

laurarichardson said:

Agreed. I'd be more worried if the brotha didn't have one! Love the strut.
If you don't know you bedda ask somebody!

A lot of young music fans today only know what they see, musicians coming on stage with street clothes looking unbathed and scruffy, we're from a different era, when entertainers REALLY entertained. (Thank God)
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what's a "muscisian?"

vainandy said:

Amen.