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On the song "AMERICA" when he sings about lil sister... he says - - -
Little sister making minimum wage Living in a 1-room jungle-monkey cage Cant get over, shes almost dead She may not be in the black But shes happy she aint in the RED Does the reference to the color RED have anything to do with communism? To Sir, with Love | |
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I love him in RED.. I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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REDFEATHERS said: I love him in RED..
he does look good doesn't he! To Sir, with Love | |
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Being in the red means being in debt.
Being in the black means she's making a profit. The line means she's just making enough money to get by. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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PEJ said: he says - - -
Little sister making minimum wage Living in a 1-room jungle-monkey cage Cant get over, shes almost dead She may not be in the black But shes happy she aint in the RED Does the reference to the color RED have anything to do with communism? no it's a financial account of being in the black (making a profit) and being in the red (financial loss) man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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REDFEATHERS said: I love him in RED..
like how i c u? ..in that red .... man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: REDFEATHERS said: I love him in RED..
like how i c u? ..in that red .... well, if you like.. I will love you forever and you will never be forgotten - L.A.F. | |
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Paris9748430 said: Being in the red means being in debt.
Being in the black means she's making a profit. The line means she's just making enough money to get by. No, it doesn't. Red is a euphemism for communism. The line is a play on words. It means, "She may be poor (not in the black), but at least she isn't living under communism (in the red)." [Edited 3/6/08 11:17am] We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: Paris9748430 said: Being in the red means being in debt.
Being in the black means she's making a profit. The line means she's just making enough money to get by. No, it doesn't. Red is a euphemism for communism. The line is a play on words. It means, "She may be poor (not in the black), but at least she isn't living under communism (in the red)." [Edited 3/6/08 11:17am] I think it's both. | |
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Efan said: Genesia said: No, it doesn't. Red is a euphemism for communism. The line is a play on words. It means, "She may be poor (not in the black), but at least she isn't living under communism (in the red)." [Edited 3/6/08 11:17am] I think it's both. Yeah, it's a double entendre (sp?) | |
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I always thought it was about Communism. Kind of a stupid lyric on Prince's part. | |
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Efan said: Genesia said: No, it doesn't. Red is a euphemism for communism. The line is a play on words. It means, "She may be poor (not in the black), but at least she isn't living under communism (in the red)." [Edited 3/6/08 11:17am] I think it's both. It can't be both. If we were to take the literal meaning, the line would be, "She may be poor, but she's happy she isn't poor." We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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it's a clumsy play on both, but i love flute sounds in funk. Gill Scott Heron style. Gett Off, as well. The lyrics to this are a bit sixth-form {college) adolescent discovering politics, like Dance On, etc. But it's got a good tune | |
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JudasLChrist said: I always thought it was about Communism. Kind of a stupid lyric on Prince's part.
I think it's one of the smartest things he's ever written. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: Efan said: I think it's both. It can't be both. If we were to take the literal meaning, the line would be, "She may be poor, but she's happy she isn't poor." yes it can. you can take any meaning you like from words. Oftentime, an artist will change his or her mind on why they wrote lyrics after hearing people's reaction to them. Or, they sit there feeling pleased with themselves that their lyrics work on "many levels". | |
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LittleSmedley said: Genesia said: It can't be both. If we were to take the literal meaning, the line would be, "She may be poor, but she's happy she isn't poor." yes it can. you can take any meaning you like from words. Oftentime, an artist will change his or her mind on why they wrote lyrics after hearing people's reaction to them. Or, they sit there feeling pleased with themselves that their lyrics work on "many levels". Okay, it can be both. But it would be monumentally stupid. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: Efan said: I think it's both. It can't be both. If we were to take the literal meaning, the line would be, "She may be poor, but she's happy she isn't poor." In the black means making a profit. In the red means being in debt. She's living paycheck to paycheck and making ends meet, but she doesn't have any savings to fall back on, so she's not in the black or red. She's caught in the middle (this is just my interpretation) of the battle between the aristocrats and the communists that Prince has set up in the first verse. Still, she is doing the best she can and she would rather be in a capitalist economy than a communist one. That's how I see it as being both. | |
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Efan said: In the black means making a profit. In the red means being in debt. She's living paycheck to paycheck and making ends meet, but she doesn't have any savings to fall back on, so she's not in the black or red. She's caught in the middle (this is just my interpretation) of the battle between the aristocrats and the communists that Prince has set up in the first verse. Still, she is doing the best she can and she would rather be in a capitalist economy than a communist one. That's how I see it as being both.
I thought so too. But more important to me is why she gotta be living in a monkey cage ???? | |
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SCNDLS said: Efan said: In the black means making a profit. In the red means being in debt. She's living paycheck to paycheck and making ends meet, but she doesn't have any savings to fall back on, so she's not in the black or red. She's caught in the middle (this is just my interpretation) of the battle between the aristocrats and the communists that Prince has set up in the first verse. Still, she is doing the best she can and she would rather be in a capitalist economy than a communist one. That's how I see it as being both.
I thought so too. But more important to me is why she gotta be living in a monkey cage ???? a small one room boxed apartment perhaps? To Sir, with Love | |
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REDFEATHERS said: I love him in RED..
and scarlets | |
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SCNDLS said: But more important to me is why she gotta be living in a monkey cage ????
again, its metaphor, which most would take for a small living space. though a zookeeper might think meant something else. it means what you want it to mean. | |
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Genesia said: JudasLChrist said: I always thought it was about Communism. Kind of a stupid lyric on Prince's part.
I think it's one of the smartest things he's ever written. | |
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Genesia said: LittleSmedley said: yes it can. you can take any meaning you like from words. Oftentime, an artist will change his or her mind on why they wrote lyrics after hearing people's reaction to them. Or, they sit there feeling pleased with themselves that their lyrics work on "many levels". Okay, it can be both. But it would be monumentally stupid. or just, a young guy, suddenly massively famous, trying to write a something political coz he's got a new audience of millions, but quickly because he feels his best stuff should come instinctively. Who knows? | |
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I always took it as an allusion to communism,
The verse prior he sings Communism is just a word, but if the government turns over, be the only word thats heard Love the video BTW | |
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Let's just change it 2...She may be in the sack but she hopes she ain't in the bed. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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JudasLChrist said: I always thought it was about Communism. Kind of a stupid lyric on Prince's part.
Most definately. It's a double entendre, but what a naively reductionist and imperial opinion to express. Kind of goes against the idea that the song's nationalism is tongue in cheek, although I'm sure it was to some extent. | |
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No, it has to do with her financial situation, when you're in the black you're doing okay , when you're in the red you're almost bankrupt.
To say one's accounts are "in the black" is used to mean that one is free of debt. Being "in the red" is to be in debt—in traditional bookkeeping, ... [Edited 3/7/08 3:53am] | |
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When I was younger I always thought that 'America' had an amount of irony about it - much the same as Springsteen's 'Born In The USA'.
However, during a recent listen it appeared to me to be a fairly crude and naive paean to the greatness of America's anti-communist ways. The messages I get from it now are: - The US government should support the rights of the wealthy to keep on amassing increasing fortunes. - Those who are poor and almost dead should just be happy that at least they aren't living in Russia. - If Jimmy Nothing, and others like him, aren't rabidly loyal to America then that will be the slippery slope to 3rd world war and annihilation. To say I was disappointed at this realisation is an understatement. Obviously the songs are of their time and the early to mid-80s was filled with a sense that global destruction was just around the corner. However, at least in 'Ronnie, Talk To Russia' which, although showing a similar political naivety, was open to a dialogue on the matter to resolve things, rather than sticking rigidly to the 'them and us' mentality shown a few years later in 'America'. | |
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I thought she was missing her period... | |
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Dayclear said: No, it has to do with her financial situation, when you're in the black you're doing okay , when you're in the red you're almost bankrupt.
To say one's accounts are "in the black" is used to mean that one is free of debt. Being "in the red" is to be in debt—in traditional bookkeeping, ... That's why it's a double entendre. She's not in the black (in credit, financially), but she's happy she isn't in the red. It's a pun. Red is a symbol for Communism, the USA is THE symbol of Western Capitalism. To say she's not in the black, she WOULD be in the red if it was just about her finances, so it wouldn't make sense. | |
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