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PrintableImago said: gemini13 said: Uh, comparing Prince & Trent in the brains department, there is a clear winner. I need to hang out with you, you have all the fun!!  I met Trent years ago (1994 I believe) in a bar in Frankfurt Germany. he was watching the openning act "Die Krupps" perform. My life ain't all that much fun anymore.  when Trent covers 3 Chains..., he'll get all the props in the world from me, until then, the very fact that he conversed with you costs him valuable points... did you tell him the batdick joke? | |
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roodboi said: Imago said: I met Trent years ago (1994 I believe) in a bar in Frankfurt Germany. he was watching the openning act "Die Krupps" perform. My life ain't all that much fun anymore. when Trent covers 3 Chains..., he'll get all the props in the world from me, until then, the very fact that he conversed with you costs him valuable points... did you tell him the batdick joke? 
I didn't know the joke at the time  | |
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Imago said: roodboi said: when Trent covers 3 Chains..., he'll get all the props in the world from me, until then, the very fact that he conversed with you costs him valuable points... did you tell him the batdick joke?
I didn't know the joke at the time I'm sure he laughed later anyway...  | |
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roodboi said: Imago said:
I didn't know the joke at the time I'm sure he laughed later anyway... | |
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purplecam said: Prince is all about money now a days.
r u suggesting he iz greedy? | |
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ChariotLove said: purplecam said: Prince is all about money now a days.
r u suggesting he iz greedy? Do you have a more logical explanation? | |
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ChariotLove said: purplecam said: Prince is all about money now a days.
r u suggesting he iz greedy? Yeah, I think he's greedy. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: ChariotLove said: r u suggesting he iz greedy? Yeah, I think he's greedy. its strange becuz he haz made more money than he could ever possibly spend.why would he feel he needs more?if that iz indeed the case.. | |
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I can not believe people are actually scratching their heads trying to figure this out. Because prince has no say or control over youtube. Simple and plain, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. We all know that youtube allows users to post what they want, if he doesn't want video's of him dancing around in his drawers up and running without his say then he is going to have it taken down, weather its a WB video or not. If he doesn't want you to see Lovesexy live 88 clips with out his permission then he will have it taken down. If people are watching James Brown, Michael Jackson and Prince all perform together and Mike sang and did a spin that almost broke the time barrier and Prince rushed the stage in a panic not sure how to follow that up.. chances are he doesn't want that clip up either and again, its not his site and he has no say over what is up and running without enforcing legal actions from his laywers, thats pretty much it. What else is it to figure out? | |
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Meloh9 said: I can not believe people are actually scratching their heads trying to figure this out. Because prince has no say or control over youtube. Simple and plain, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. We all know that youtube allows users to post what they want, if he doesn't want video's of him dancing around in his drawers up and running without his say then he is going to have it taken down, weather its a WB video or not. If he doesn't want you to see Lovesexy live 88 clips with out his permission then he will have it taken down. If people are watching James Brown, Michael Jackson and Prince all perform together and Mike sang and did a spin that almost broke the time barrier and Prince rushed the stage in a panic not sure how to follow that up.. chances are he doesn't want that clip up either and again, its not his site and he has no say over what is up and running without enforcing legal actions from his laywers, thats pretty much it. What else is it to figure out?
I appreciate your attempt to elab. But again, that makes no sense. We all are a product of our past. Prince "himself" said in many interviews that he WOULD NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT HIS PAST. He says it was his "experience". So what you are stating goes without real substance except for the part about "control". You canot change the past no matter how hard you try. It is what makes you who you are today. Again, the videos and interviews were made for our viewing pleasure. Imagine if every artist followed suit! Better yet, Prince himself more than likely watches YOUTUBE to see vintage performances by the musicians that he champions such as Joni MItchell, Sly, Jimi, etc. Dig me? | |
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oh lawd, he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right to do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff to do stuff with!
its on principle! nothing 2 do with business! he dont need the business!  | |
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ChariotLove said: oh lawd, he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right to do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff to do stuff with!
its on principle! nothing 2 do with business! he dont need the business! Yo Chariot, he is a musician! Aight? Every musician wants their stuff to be heard and viewed! POINT BLANK PERIOD! Now if Prince were something else I would roll with what you are saying. If Prince where broke and hit the skids and others were profiting off the airplay while he was starving I would get it. You are speaking of him as if he was NOT an entertainer. It makes no sense! I've supported him for YEARSSSSS... Through his changes in format in music, style, etc. I even support his religious choices when people jumped on him about that. But I do not "understand" or "comprehend" a musician, performer, singer, entertainer, not wanting their work to be viewed! That is the whole reason for being in this industry. Not so much the money! We musicians crave for our work to be viewed and heard! [Edited 3/3/08 12:44pm] | |
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jojofran said: ChariotLove said: oh lawd, he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right to do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff to do stuff with!
its on principle! nothing 2 do with business! he dont need the business! That is the whole reason for being in this industry. he might b IN the industry,but he iz not OF it. u cant make him fit ur idea of what the average musician wants. he'z a creeper,a floater,a stinger,a ray,teaching otherz 2 have some awareness of basic common sense. "he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right 2 do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff 2 do stuff with!" dont make me get kamakaze on u! | |
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jojofran said: Meloh9 said: I can not believe people are actually scratching their heads trying to figure this out. Because prince has no say or control over youtube. Simple and plain, it doesn't take a genius to figure this out. We all know that youtube allows users to post what they want, if he doesn't want video's of him dancing around in his drawers up and running without his say then he is going to have it taken down, weather its a WB video or not. If he doesn't want you to see Lovesexy live 88 clips with out his permission then he will have it taken down. If people are watching James Brown, Michael Jackson and Prince all perform together and Mike sang and did a spin that almost broke the time barrier and Prince rushed the stage in a panic not sure how to follow that up.. chances are he doesn't want that clip up either and again, its not his site and he has no say over what is up and running without enforcing legal actions from his laywers, thats pretty much it. What else is it to figure out?
I appreciate your attempt to elab. But again, that makes no sense. We all are a product of our past. Prince "himself" said in many interviews that he WOULD NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT HIS PAST. He says it was his "experience". So what you are stating goes without real substance except for the part about "control". You canot change the past no matter how hard you try. It is what makes you who you are today. Again, the videos and interviews were made for our viewing pleasure. Imagine if every artist followed suit! Better yet, Prince himself more than likely watches YOUTUBE to see vintage performances by the musicians that he champions such as Joni MItchell, Sly, Jimi, etc. Dig me? so at this point I am not sure what kind of response you want just in case I haven't given it already, I can't make sense out of Prince's actions for him, and one can only speculate at seemingly odd behavior. And it does make sense in a way if you are a person that sets out to control every aspect of your career and personal image, then it would warrant this kind of behavior. | |
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yes there are a lot of us who buy his stuff, but there are so many prince fans that don't. think about it 15 million+ people use the internet to download music can you imagine how much money the artist is losing? i think if some of the other artist realized that, maybe they would do the same. however, i don't know how he could stop people from doing it anyway. | |
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Jojo said; You can't even see "today's Prince" people! I wanted to peep the S.H.O.E. video and can't even see it. Heck I'd buy the video if it were for sale. Does anyone get me?
[Edited 3/2/08 19:57pm] [/quote] i thought shoe was on BET? | |
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ChariotLove said: ChariotLove said: [Nonsense snip - luv4u]
[Snipped - flame - June7] huh? what's going on? I must have missed some things? I always miss the good stuff!!!  | |
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Imago said: Cheek said:   that's cute  | |
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ChariotLove said: jojofran said: That is the whole reason for being in this industry. he might b IN the industry,but he iz not OF it. u cant make him fit ur idea of what the average musician wants. he'z a creeper,a floater,a stinger,a ray,teaching otherz 2 have some awareness of basic common sense. "he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right 2 do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff 2 do stuff with!" dont make me get kamakaze on u! I understand what you are saying and respect your trying to make sense out of it. I just am changing my entire perception of him. I used to think very highly of certain changes he was proposing against the "machine". I am a very understanding person and want all artist to profit off of sales of their product. But I am not going to agree with something that is illogical. If the glove don't fit u must acquit! I am not really asking for a concrete answer from anybody by the thread. Just something different that I may have been missing all along. All I have gotten mostly is "well he just doesn't want to so respect that." I mean that's cool and all but it'll leave a sour taste in my mouth. I can't really even listen to his music nowadays without thinking of some of this mess. It really has the dust piling up on my Prince collection. | |
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jojofran said: ChariotLove said: he might b IN the industry,but he iz not OF it. u cant make him fit ur idea of what the average musician wants. he'z a creeper,a floater,a stinger,a ray,teaching otherz 2 have some awareness of basic common sense. "he doesnt like people arrogantly presuming the right 2 do stuff with his stuff if it aint their stuff 2 do stuff with!" dont make me get kamakaze on u! I understand what you are saying and respect your trying to make sense out of it. I just am changing my entire perception of him. I used to think very highly of certain changes he was proposing against the "machine". I am a very understanding person and want all artist to profit off of sales of their product. But I am not going to agree with something that is illogical. If the glove don't fit u must acquit! I am not really asking for a concrete answer from anybody by the thread. Just something different that I may have been missing all along. All I have gotten mostly is "well he just doesn't want to so respect that." I mean that's cool and all but it'll leave a sour taste in my mouth. I can't really even listen to his music nowadays without thinking of some of this mess. It really has the dust piling up on my Prince collection. video killed the radio star.music iz never meant 2 b looked at. | |
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mayebelle81 said: Jojo said; You can't even see "today's Prince" people! I wanted to peep the S.H.O.E. video and can't even see it. Heck I'd buy the video if it were for sale. Does anyone get me?
[Edited 3/2/08 19:57pm] i thought shoe was on BET?[/quote] So I'm supposed to watch BET until it comes on? I mean I am not feenin' for it like a "fix" or something. I just think that you will promote "pirating" and "bootlegging" more by removing eveything you ever had previously done. I purchase music and support all artist. I buy videos off of ITUNES as well as popular music. You cannot control what others do to make a buck. I guess I'm beating a dead horse. I tell ya folks it truly is making me not care about anything more he is doing. I don't like to feel as if I am being given a rashion. I guess I am asking for a reason to continue paying money to an artist who really seems to not care about true fans. | |
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ChariotLove said: jojofran said: I understand what you are saying and respect your trying to make sense out of it. I just am changing my entire perception of him. I used to think very highly of certain changes he was proposing against the "machine". I am a very understanding person and want all artist to profit off of sales of their product. But I am not going to agree with something that is illogical. If the glove don't fit u must acquit! I am not really asking for a concrete answer from anybody by the thread. Just something different that I may have been missing all along. All I have gotten mostly is "well he just doesn't want to so respect that." I mean that's cool and all but it'll leave a sour taste in my mouth. I can't really even listen to his music nowadays without thinking of some of this mess. It really has the dust piling up on my Prince collection. video killed the radio star.music iz never meant 2 b looked at. But, he recently made a video for SHOE ChariotLove, and not so long before that Black Sweat, Te amo corazon... etc... just a thought 
Welcome back by the way.....  if it's you... | |
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Jeffiner said: ChariotLove said: video killed the radio star.music iz never meant 2 b looked at. But, he recently made a video for SHOE ChariotLove, and not so long before that Black Sweat, Te amo corazon... etc... just a thought
Welcome back by the way..... if it's you... just becuz he'z hooked n2 the standard approach of doing a video for songz doeznt mean music is meant 2 b looked at. (and no,its not me,that 'me' is dead.wrongly cyber-murdered by 2 people who dont recognise DIVINELOVE when its staring them in the face. my mother said "forgive them father for they do not know what they do 2 themselves") [Edited 3/3/08 19:29pm] | |
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It's a matter of what time you come from. Un42n8ly, Prince feels the need to hold on to his much more than artists that came out in the 90s. I think that for all his work to undo what the biz does to its artists, he doesn't seem to understand that the less control he has over the finished product once it's been released to the world, the more it will get out there - this is what he once wanted more than anything - he even said, "what if we record a concert, then release 10,000 copies at $5 each, just to cover the cost of recording?
It raises the question that I raised in an earlier posting, which I'll reiterate - "it's all about the choices an artist makes regarding their music." It raises another question - even though over 3 million copies of Planet Earth were given out in the Mail On Sunday delivery, it was supposedly at the lowest bitrate that exists, and you still had to buy it if you wanted a good copy of it. | |
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Jeffiner said: But, he recently made a video for SHOE ChariotLove, and not so long before that Black Sweat, Te amo corazon... etc... just a thought Prince seems to be more selective of what he wants to visually put out there these days, sure do hope he's found or soon will be with the one he's singing about in those videos.   | |
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Hey Jojo..I've been a fan since 1979..and I have all of Prince's released material, and I don't have the music that was only offered online...and I wish I did...However, I have no interest in downloaded material, because I don't care for the sound...so I will wait.
I guess if someone has earned enough money to retire...they can treat their profession and retirement like a revolving door if they like...The truth is...Prince doesn't have to work anymore....anything Prince does at this point is for the fans that want to hear more music...and music to Prince...is not video's...that's an a la cart...as well as touring. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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...because he becomes an unwilling addendum to the "content driven corporate website called youtube"....you know...a slave...now why would those of you who profess love and respect for your musical genius want to see him making money for a dumbass "user content" website? [meaning: either dumbasses videotaping themselves falling down or girls shaking their butts or MATERIAL OTHERS MADE BY INVESTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND LIFE TO HAVE IT SUSTAIN A BAD BUSINESS MODEL THAT USES USERS TO USE THAT WHICH DOESN'T BELONG TO THEM. [that's a lot of use huh?]
Do not point to MJ and stevie and say...look they let it go on so it's ok...no...it is not....at best they are being exceedingly gracious letting the fans make money for a corporation that doesn't give a flying fuck about "creativity"... Is it cool to see shit that has been unavailable...well, yes and no... In MJ's case it is in his best interest to remind folks how amazing he is because THE SAME MACHINE FEEDING ON HIM TRIED TO KILL HIM...so he is hedging his bets.. .stevie and many others quite likely see the utility of a video site and don't see the downside...besides: YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT P HAS IN MIND AND IF YOU ARE TO SIDE WITH SOMEONE SIDE WITH THE MAN WHO GAVE YOU 25 YEARS OF HEART/SOUL/ABSURDITY/BALLS TO THE WALLS BOLDNESS/VISION/PAIN/JOY/AND GORGEOUS FUNKY SOUND.... GIMMEE A BREAK...THIS SITE IS HIS NAME...GET IT...HIS NAME...HOW WOULD YOU LIKE ME AND MY DUMBASS FRIENDS MAKING A SITE IN YOUR NAME TO TALK ABOUT EVERY.GOD.DAMNED.THING WE CAN THINK OF REGARDING YOU?...to the point where our bullshit takes on a life of it's own eclipsing the thing that gave it relevance? oh..that's right: y'all made P...nah buddy...P made y'all...y'all the fans..remember...duh? ...we won't discuss copyrights and advertising residuals... I would say stop being petulant dumbass morons and be impressed that the brotha is fighting for something worth fighting for: his works...you know?...the stuff you like listening to...or would you prefer making him your bitch? Yo..p...get in here and sing me a sexy song in falsetto...I feel like being romantical...no...higher...you know...sexy....wear the buttless pants and show me some package...yeah...like dat...now do the pouty thing...you so sexy...uh...hold up..the simpsons are on...aight...go get a snack and then I think I wanna see you in panties and a trench coat...whattaya mean you're fifty and that ain't your trip no mo---I'm the fan-so I say what you do...I wanna see panties and trenchcoats and falsetto and humping...after the simpsons....oh cool looky my favovrite commercial..check this out man..it's really funny.... oh...prince...get the door the pizza's here... fans are retarded and truly fucked in the head... Yo P: burn it all to the ground if thats what you need to do....and for the way back machine and whatever you decide to put in tomorowland [whenever u r good and ready]: thank you...seriously... thank you. | |
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mayebelle81 said: ChariotLove said: [Snipped - flame - June7] huh? what's going on? I must have missed some things? I always miss the good stuff!!! MsLegs has offspring in this department.. that's what's going on lol for real .. http://prince.org/msg/3/258748 [Edited 3/4/08 3:13am] | |
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Flowerz said: mayebelle81 said: huh? what's going on? I must have missed some things? I always miss the good stuff!!! MsLegs has offspring in this department.. that's what's going on lol for real .. http://prince.org/msg/3/258748 [Edited 3/4/08 3:13am] [Snipped - flame - June7]. | |
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dv8xtc said: fans are retarded and truly fucked in the head....
there's always hope. | |
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