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Reply #30 posted 03/01/08 12:23am

Anji

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I guess my question is why do you think he needs therapy?

Do you think something is wrong with Prince?


It seems you, as well as others here, may be making an incorrect assumption. I certainly don't believe something has to be 'wrong' with someone for them to benefit from a therapeutic space.
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Reply #31 posted 03/01/08 12:28am

Anji

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Anji said:



Sure. I was wondering whether a therapeutic space for personal introspection may benefit Prince in helping him become more aware of 'the why' and 'the how' he has come to be and whether increasing this awareness may in turn aid his creativity and sense of personal freedom...



Prince has done this before, looked for personal answers and that is reflected in the album the gold experience, i quote from the review printed on the accompanying leaflet within the CD, penned by Jim Walsh, pop music critic, St. Paul Pioneer Press, January 1995.



"...Above all, prince wants it known that this is a record about the fight for freedom - personal, artistic, political - but anyone with half an ear can suss that much out. During the making of it, he was enarmoured with Betty Eadie's book 'Embraced by the light', a first-person narrative on near-death experience, and that theme also peppers the record, most explicitly in the reincarnation dream 'dolphin'. It is also implicit on several other tracks that ponder birth, life, death, and rebirth, and one man's own expectations and perceptions of himself.
It might sound hokey, but to me, 'The Gold Experience' is about process. The kind of processes that dont happen overnight, or to overnight sensations. It is about panning for gold and coming up with mud, and getting back down on your hands and knees and panning some more. It is about, if you will, 'hard work'.
Psycho babble and pure groovability aside, the most fascinating aspect about these 12 songs is that they come from a human being who, like you and me, struggles day in and day out, but unlike you and me, does so in a very public forum. And that public flailing makes the music - which too often gets obscured by the flailing itself - somehow resonate even deeper, and transcend the confines of good beats and hit-making. It is the sound of an artist at odds with himself, his world, his past, his present and future. Who woul've guessed that such a sound could be this big, bad, and joyful?
More than anything, throughout my own 'Gold' experience, I heard a unique, and uniquely potent, mix of purpose, celebration, and fear. there is a palpable sense of urgency here, as if prince knows that time is running out for all of us to make connections with ourselves and the outside world. Don't believe me? Listen to the scream in the middle of 'Endorphinmachine' or the guitar solo on 'Gold' that concludes the album. The two things they share are desperation and liberation. Listen, Cue 'em up, back to back, Hear it? He isn't showing off, he's searching. Again. And like never before."




This review is actually six pages long and fabulous no wonder Prince included it with the lyrics he obviously realised this guy ' got him'.

Apologies to Jim Walsh for not quoting him in his entirity.

So when Prince originally said he was going to have some time off last year - I believe him. All artists have to have solitude for inspiration and talking to other people doesnt necessarily help that process. So in answer to the original post no I dont think he should seek any help, i think he already has found some solace and comfort in his faith mingled with his intellect of his soul searching from years gone by.

And Tame as usual you seem to be on the same wave length as me - beautiful words!


Yes, Prince has often come across through his music as if he was on a personal journey of introspection and discovery, which is why therapy seems particularly relevant. During the Emancipation era, there was talk of seeing a therapist. It wouldn't surpise me if he has done/continues to.
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Reply #32 posted 03/01/08 12:35am

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lol wtf @ this thread.....
Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together
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Reply #33 posted 03/01/08 12:40am

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Reply #34 posted 03/01/08 1:25am

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i reckon he's already had therapy.
That's right, you are Divinity
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Reply #35 posted 03/01/08 3:17am

ChariotLove

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chillichocaholic said:

ChariotLove said:



seshun2 cont': only 6% of people in the world,r truly alive.

eek eek Is that spiritually speaking, or religion speaking?


truthfully speaking.
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Reply #36 posted 03/01/08 3:29am

Volitan

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therapyisback said:

i reckon he's already had therapy.


I think that's how he discovered the "other person living inside him". He said he doesn't know what gender this person is.

The real life Camille?
Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together
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Reply #37 posted 03/01/08 6:22am

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God, imagine how uncomfortable *that* is when P turns up at your surgery/practice, lies down and says hardly anything except stuff about 'Elephants and Flowers', 'time ia s trick', etc.. shake

The therapist would need therapy! lol
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Reply #38 posted 03/01/08 7:36am

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sorry friends across the pond if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression all americans have regular therepy whether they need it or not..like visiting the dentist every 6mths, a regular shrinkage sesh is part of the health plan... wink
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Reply #39 posted 03/01/08 10:15am

CJanssen

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sorry friends across the pond if i'm wrong, but i was under the impression all americans have regular therepy whether they need it or not..like visiting the dentist every 6mths, a regular shrinkage sesh is part of the health plan... wink



falloff

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Reply #40 posted 03/01/08 12:42pm

ChariotLove

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session 3: love iz kind. dove
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Reply #41 posted 03/01/08 4:06pm

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ChariotLove said:

chillichocaholic said:


eek eek Is that spiritually speaking, or religion speaking?


truthfully speaking.

Sorry, but I dont beliee that, many people are alive spiritually nod
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

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Reply #42 posted 03/01/08 4:12pm

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chillichocaholic said:

ChariotLove said:



truthfully speaking.

Sorry, but I dont beliee that, many people are alive spiritually nod


and 6% of 6 billion people iz..
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Reply #43 posted 03/01/08 4:48pm

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ChariotLove said:

chillichocaholic said:


Sorry, but I dont beliee that, many people are alive spiritually nod


and 6% of 6 billion people iz..

lol Says who?
PRINCE IS WATCHING U evillol" When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate chocolate

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Reply #44 posted 03/01/08 4:58pm

violetblues

Somebody start a thread about org members undertaking personal therapy razz

did you guys read that 1999 cover art thread?lol
people stoped taking their meds
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Reply #45 posted 03/01/08 7:33pm

ChariotLove

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sn 4:when overshadowed by a superior intelligence,don't get defensive.
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Reply #46 posted 03/01/08 11:23pm

chillichocahol
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ChariotLove said:

sn 4:when overshadowed by a superior intelligence,don't get defensive.

lol no one human being is superior to another...
and I dont feel in the least bit defensive. Im simply asking shrug lol U amuse me comfort
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Reply #47 posted 03/02/08 2:17am

ChariotLove

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sn 5:when the love in ur heart haz doubled,know that God haz love 4 u.
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Reply #48 posted 03/02/08 4:13am

Jeffiner

Volitan said:

therapyisback said:

i reckon he's already had therapy.


I think that's how he discovered the "other person living inside him". He said he doesn't know what gender this person is.

The real life Camille?


Ah yes, I've wondered about this for ages. In the Oprah interview he says that he took someone else through therapy, and that's how he found out about the other person inside him. But, what does this mean? How could he take someone else through therapy, he's not a therapist! Did he mean the 'someone else' was 'Prince' because he was then prince, or is that too deep? confuse
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Reply #49 posted 03/02/08 6:24am

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Anji said:

luv4u said:

Could you expand on that?..... hmmm


Sure. I was wondering whether a therapeutic space for personal introspection may benefit Prince in helping him become more aware of 'the why' and 'the how' he has come to be and whether increasing this awareness may in turn aid his creativity and sense of personal freedom...


I would think that Prince is already aware of "the why" and "the how". I am sure he has spent more time than most in introspection, and it's a result of that which we get the music he shares. Though I imagine that some introspection he chooses to not share, (ie locked in the vault) would probably be even more revealing.
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Reply #50 posted 03/02/08 6:32am

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Tame said:

Therapy...I suppose is the difference between, a doctor that is going to charge you to converse with, and a friend that has a little more insight on your life already...

I believe in looking for a solid ground or moral absolute to stand on when searching your own spirit, which I believe is a daily activity for everyone.

I believe that looking for love within is always beneficial, and There are professionals that could definitely help.

I also believe in the idea...that if therapy is not an idea someone wishes to consider...A local Community College offers psychology classes that are disciplined unto it's own curriculum, However, can be very insighful into the understanding of the brain...and the spirit's connection to this organ...

Psychology is an intricate weave, between the cards that have been dealt to the individual player, and the player's reaction to the game.

People's minds can break when their spirit's are broken or tattered...Medication should be used as a temporary tool, and in no way relied upon as an answer to a root search.

The disappointment I learned when seeking professional advice, is that, several opinions, favored, labeling someone as bi-polar...(The extreme emotional range)...and...try to convince the patient of a lifetime challenge...Instead of delivering a positive hope...by treating an emotional hurdle, as a temporary place you are passing through on your journey.

Mental Illness is not for life! Some people become drawn into the system...and that in itself is a professional disorder.


Unfortunately in some cases "mental illness" is for life. There are paranoid schizophrenias that suffer with their condition all of their life. There are bipolar individuals that suffer with swinging from mania to depression all of their life. The thing with many of these diagnosis is that there is a disconnect in the brain somewhere, a chemical imbalance, that medication can help to address the symptoms but never get rid of the disease. My ex-father-in-law and nephew both suffered with, and continue to suffer with, paranoid schizophrenia. They both are great as long as they remain on their medication to decrease their symptoms, but once they are doing better, they often will stop medication because they believe they are well and don't need it anymore. Usually with these diagnoses then it becomes a revolving door at the mental health facilities and they spend a lot of their life going between in-patient status and out-patient status.
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Reply #51 posted 03/02/08 6:33am

Imago

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Reply #52 posted 03/02/08 8:30am

misslilly

Anji said:

And why?

hmmm

yes,but i think we all need personal therapy/ why?/ the world is not an old disney movie
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Reply #53 posted 03/02/08 2:37pm

ChariotLove

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sn6: tell the truth,the whole truth,& nothing but the truth,for when u do,it shows how deep their valley truly b. lightning
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Reply #54 posted 03/02/08 3:02pm

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Jeffiner said:

Volitan said:



I think that's how he discovered the "other person living inside him". He said he doesn't know what gender this person is.

The real life Camille?


Ah yes, I've wondered about this for ages. In the Oprah interview he says that he took someone else through therapy, and that's how he found out about the other person inside him. But, what does this mean?


bring back Stereo,& u will know.prince
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Reply #55 posted 03/02/08 3:08pm

DAISYCAKE

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wildgoldenhoney said:


nod Me too.


"WHAT THE HELL YOU MEAN? I'M NOT ANGRY?!!!!????!!!!" hmph!

He might have napolean complex because he is so small!





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Oh, I forgot to put this for emphasis: stab
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Reply #56 posted 03/02/08 3:11pm

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Imago said:



i'm sensing a lot of negativity from you, Imago and i don't think that Anji's thread really calls for that sort of hostility. please take a moment to find your inner happy, shiny person. thank you.

now, for Anji's question: 'Would you recommend Prince to undertake personal therapy'

biggrin well. *I* think prince could benefit from some personal therapy. but then again, ALL of us would benefit from some personal therapy

i mean truthfully - who among us hasn't had those moments? when we realize our own fallibility? contemplate our own vulnerability and flaws? who among us has never needed someone to talk to at certain times in our lives?

can you honestly tell me you've never had a single time in your life when a little personal therapy wouldn't have helped? never a single moment of insecurity or neurosis? a fleeting thought like "yes, maybe i should eat the kitten because it's so soft" or the always bewildering "why am i wearing this machete?"

to sum up yes, if prince were to ask me my personal opinion about whether or not he should undertake a bit of personal therapy i'd have to tell him yes he should, for his own good. hug rose heart
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Reply #57 posted 03/02/08 11:50pm

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Im begining to think alot of people on this site could do with some personal therapy :lol wink
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Reply #58 posted 03/03/08 8:04am

Jeffiner

ChariotLove said:

Jeffiner said:



Ah yes, I've wondered about this for ages. In the Oprah interview he says that he took someone else through therapy, and that's how he found out about the other person inside him. But, what does this mean?


bring back Stereo,& u will know.prince


Can you turn up the Stereo? I wanna play you this old song, it's about love....

Stereo.....is that you.....???? wink
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Reply #59 posted 03/03/08 8:11am

Dayclear

No, his therapy is God, and it's worked for him all these years.
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