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Prince, Sex, and Relationships I was talking about relationships with a friend and I found that Prince's lyrics echo a lot of feelings I have about women. It's no secret that a reoccurring theme in Prince's music is his role as the martyr, the victim of a unfaithful or uncaring lover. Songs such as "When U were Mine", "Darling Nikki", "Last Heart", "One of your Tears" and many others exemplify this theme perfectly. However, from how he's portrayed in real life, this doesn't seem to be the whole story.
My question is what does this say about how Prince sees himself and how he views women, or is there something much deeper behind the words? | |
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xpertluva said: I was talking about relationships with a friend and I found that Prince's lyrics echo a lot of feelings I have about women. It's no secret that a reoccurring theme in Prince's music is his role as the martyr, the victim of a unfaithful or uncaring lover. Songs such as "When U were Mine", "Darling Nikki", "Last Heart", "One of your Tears" and many others exemplify this theme perfectly. However, from how he's portrayed in real life, this doesn't seem to be the whole story.
My question is what does this say about how Prince sees himself and how he views women, or is there something much deeper behind the words? I always wondered when dude lost his virginity  | |
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As a victim, would you feel the experiences have been out of your control? If the experiences were hurtful, what might you do to avoid such pain in the future?
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dont worry baby, aint nuthin new, thats just love sneakin up on you ~ bonnie rait | |
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Anji said: As a victim, would you feel the experiences have been out of your control? If the experiences were hurtful, what might you do to avoid such pain in the future?
. [Edited 2/18/08 12:45pm] Bingo! | |
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NastradumasKid said: xpertluva said: I was talking about relationships with a friend and I found that Prince's lyrics echo a lot of feelings I have about women. It's no secret that a reoccurring theme in Prince's music is his role as the martyr, the victim of a unfaithful or uncaring lover. Songs such as "When U were Mine", "Darling Nikki", "Last Heart", "One of your Tears" and many others exemplify this theme perfectly. However, from how he's portrayed in real life, this doesn't seem to be the whole story.
My question is what does this say about how Prince sees himself and how he views women, or is there something much deeper behind the words? I always wondered when dude lost his virginity I think he was REALLY young, at least that's what he said somewhere, 11? maybe, but dating a much older girl 17? Don't quote me on it, but that's what I read somewhere -  | |
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Jeffiner said: NastradumasKid said: I always wondered when dude lost his virginity I think he was REALLY young, at least that's what he said somewhere, 11? maybe, but dating a much older girl 17? Don't quote me on it, but that's what I read somewhere - 11?!? That's a baby!! :-O And what kind of 17 year old would bang a kid? Anyway, on topic, bitching about women is a veeery common theme in music. [Edited 2/18/08 17:47pm] | |
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NastradumasKid said: xpertluva said: I was talking about relationships with a friend and I found that Prince's lyrics echo a lot of feelings I have about women. It's no secret that a reoccurring theme in Prince's music is his role as the martyr, the victim of a unfaithful or uncaring lover. Songs such as "When U were Mine", "Darling Nikki", "Last Heart", "One of your Tears" and many others exemplify this theme perfectly. However, from how he's portrayed in real life, this doesn't seem to be the whole story.
My question is what does this say about how Prince sees himself and how he views women, or is there something much deeper behind the words? I always wondered when dude lost his virginity (Schoolyard) I was only 16 and her name was Carrie She was the number one little girl I wanted 2 marry me She was only 14, but she had the major body Yeah, this girl was mean Me and Ace picked Carrie up from school one day We took her 4 a ride in Ace's car, the music started 2 play We sat real close, both nervous Lookin' at each other not knowin' what 2 say Carrie was a sister But her eyes kinda made her look Japanese Her short cut afro, shiny and soft Her clothes fit 2 please Ace was a real fast driver With every turn, Carrie fell in my lap He asked us where we wanted 2 go I said "Yeah right, like U need a map!" The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard With a wink and a nod we were off 2 Ace's pod Like peas who's hangin' 4 a knife The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Ace's girl showed up, that's when the party started jumpin' Tower Of Power's "Squib Cakes" steady humpin' I said "Carrie, hmm, do U wanna dance?" She said "Uh hmm, yeah, like later man, first let me smoke this weed" I said "Damn, my cologne ain't sayin' shit if this is what she needs" Yeah, before I knew it, Carrie was seein' double That's when me and her got into trouble So much 4 the dance I started takin' off Carrie's pants The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Hey hey.. hey!) And now boys and girls 4 the graphic part Close your ears if U ain't got a nasty heart The schoolyard, the schoolyard Here we go Now take a glove, fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on (Well) Pull it tight, that's what Carrie was like One stroke and I was gone Gone I was, it's true The schoolyard, the schoolyard When your schoolyard baby comes home And it's all that's on their mind Try 2 remember how U felt your very first time.. oh! The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on) We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, oh) (Well, gettin' it on.. heh, heh) The schoolyard (Schoolyard), the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Boy, U're gettin', yeah) The schoolyard, the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, get.. get.. gettin' it on, yeah) (Hey!) don't know if it's true, but  song though.  For all time I am with you, you are with me. | |
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ToraToraDreams said: Jeffiner said: I think he was REALLY young, at least that's what he said somewhere, 11? maybe, but dating a much older girl 17? Don't quote me on it, but that's what I read somewhere - 11?!? That's a baby!! :-O And what kind of 17 year old would bang a kid? Anyway, on topic, bitching about women is a veeery common theme in music. [Edited 2/18/08 17:47pm] Sorry, looks like I was wrong on this - see thread 'Rolling Stone 1990' he does state in there, that he was 16 when he lost his virginity! Much better! Great article btw. I don't know where I got the above info from, but I definitely remember reading it somewhere, probably made up by someone!  SORRY! | |
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purplepolitician said: NastradumasKid said: I always wondered when dude lost his virginity (Schoolyard) I was only 16 and her name was Carrie She was the number one little girl I wanted 2 marry me She was only 14, but she had the major body Yeah, this girl was mean Me and Ace picked Carrie up from school one day We took her 4 a ride in Ace's car, the music started 2 play We sat real close, both nervous Lookin' at each other not knowin' what 2 say Carrie was a sister But her eyes kinda made her look Japanese Her short cut afro, shiny and soft Her clothes fit 2 please Ace was a real fast driver With every turn, Carrie fell in my lap He asked us where we wanted 2 go I said "Yeah right, like U need a map!" The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard With a wink and a nod we were off 2 Ace's pod Like peas who's hangin' 4 a knife The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Ace's girl showed up, that's when the party started jumpin' Tower Of Power's "Squib Cakes" steady humpin' I said "Carrie, hmm, do U wanna dance?" She said "Uh hmm, yeah, like later man, first let me smoke this weed" I said "Damn, my cologne ain't sayin' shit if this is what she needs" Yeah, before I knew it, Carrie was seein' double That's when me and her got into trouble So much 4 the dance I started takin' off Carrie's pants The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Hey hey.. hey!) And now boys and girls 4 the graphic part Close your ears if U ain't got a nasty heart The schoolyard, the schoolyard Here we go Now take a glove, fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on (Well) Pull it tight, that's what Carrie was like One stroke and I was gone Gone I was, it's true The schoolyard, the schoolyard When your schoolyard baby comes home And it's all that's on their mind Try 2 remember how U felt your very first time.. oh! The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on) We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, oh) (Well, gettin' it on.. heh, heh) The schoolyard (Schoolyard), the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Boy, U're gettin', yeah) The schoolyard, the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, get.. get.. gettin' it on, yeah) (Hey!) don't know if it's true, but song though. You're right purplepolitician! | |
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NastradumasKid said: xpertluva said: I was talking about relationships with a friend and I found that Prince's lyrics echo a lot of feelings I have about women. It's no secret that a reoccurring theme in Prince's music is his role as the martyr, the victim of a unfaithful or uncaring lover. Songs such as "When U were Mine", "Darling Nikki", "Last Heart", "One of your Tears" and many others exemplify this theme perfectly. However, from how he's portrayed in real life, this doesn't seem to be the whole story.
My question is what does this say about how Prince sees himself and how he views women, or is there something much deeper behind the words? I always wondered when dude lost his virginity when he was 13 a reference was made to it in the song my stick too it's on one of the times albums | |
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mayebelle81 said: NastradumasKid said: I always wondered when dude lost his virginity when he was 13 a reference was made to it in the song my stick too it's on one of the times albums Wasn't "The Stick" written by Lisa? | |
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ToraToraDreams said: Jeffiner said: I think he was REALLY young, at least that's what he said somewhere, 11? maybe, but dating a much older girl 17? Don't quote me on it, but that's what I read somewhere - 11?!? That's a baby!! :-O And what kind of 17 year old would bang a kid? Anyway, on topic, bitching about women is a veeery common theme in music. [Edited 2/18/08 17:47pm] Both Mani and Mayte were young while he was banging them. Mayte lost her virginity to him and if I had to guess so did Mani. | |
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Jeffiner said: purplepolitician said: (Schoolyard) I was only 16 and her name was Carrie She was the number one little girl I wanted 2 marry me She was only 14, but she had the major body Yeah, this girl was mean Me and Ace picked Carrie up from school one day We took her 4 a ride in Ace's car, the music started 2 play We sat real close, both nervous Lookin' at each other not knowin' what 2 say Carrie was a sister But her eyes kinda made her look Japanese Her short cut afro, shiny and soft Her clothes fit 2 please Ace was a real fast driver With every turn, Carrie fell in my lap He asked us where we wanted 2 go I said "Yeah right, like U need a map!" The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard With a wink and a nod we were off 2 Ace's pod Like peas who's hangin' 4 a knife The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Ace's girl showed up, that's when the party started jumpin' Tower Of Power's "Squib Cakes" steady humpin' I said "Carrie, hmm, do U wanna dance?" She said "Uh hmm, yeah, like later man, first let me smoke this weed" I said "Damn, my cologne ain't sayin' shit if this is what she needs" Yeah, before I knew it, Carrie was seein' double That's when me and her got into trouble So much 4 the dance I started takin' off Carrie's pants The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Hey hey.. hey!) And now boys and girls 4 the graphic part Close your ears if U ain't got a nasty heart The schoolyard, the schoolyard Here we go Now take a glove, fill it with hot baby lotion and slip it on (Well) Pull it tight, that's what Carrie was like One stroke and I was gone Gone I was, it's true The schoolyard, the schoolyard When your schoolyard baby comes home And it's all that's on their mind Try 2 remember how U felt your very first time.. oh! The schoolyard, the schoolyard Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on) We never want it 4 the children of our own We all pray better seeds we have sown But one story that is most commonly known Is gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, oh) (Well, gettin' it on.. heh, heh) The schoolyard (Schoolyard), the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Boy, U're gettin', yeah) The schoolyard, the schoolyard (Schoolyard) Gettin' it on in the schoolyard (Gettin' it on, get.. get.. gettin' it on, yeah) (Hey!) don't know if it's true, but song though. You're right purplepolitician! aren't i always, though?  For all time I am with you, you are with me. | |
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Jeffiner said: ToraToraDreams said: [/b]
11?!? That's a baby!! :-O And what kind of 17 year old would bang a kid? Anyway, on topic, bitching about women is a veeery common theme in music. [Edited 2/18/08 17:47pm] Sorry, looks like I was wrong on this - see thread 'Rolling Stone 1990' he does state in there, that he was 16 when he lost his virginity! Much better! Great article btw. I don't know where I got the above info from, but I definitely remember reading it somewhere, probably made up by someone! SORRY!Oh... That just really grossed/freaked me out.  | |
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What album is Schoolyard on? I like girly guys.... | |
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1999dontyouwannago said: What album is Schoolyard on?
Bootleg. Its unreleased | |
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xpertluva said: mayebelle81 said: when he was 13 a reference was made to it in the song my stick too it's on one of the times albums Wasn't "The Stick" written by Lisa? i thought he wrote but i can check though i thought i read in vibe or guitar magazine that i bought a long time ago that he lost it at 13 too | |
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mayebelle81 said: xpertluva said: Wasn't "The Stick" written by Lisa? i thought he wrote but i can check though i thought i read in vibe or guitar magazine that i bought a long time ago that he lost it at 13 too Hmmm... looks like he's re-written history a few times on this one | |
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ToraToraDreams said: 1999dontyouwannago said: What album is Schoolyard on?
Bootleg. Its unreleased The Jewel Box or The Work 4. I don't like that song. | |
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something much deeper behind the words.
quite frankly. And if you were with me tonight,
I'd sing to you just one more time. A song for a heart so big, god wouldn't let it live. | |
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