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Reply #30 posted 10/25/02 8:08pm

Heavenly

I'll tell him to leave everything to me in his will.
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Reply #31 posted 10/25/02 10:19pm

Snake

jaypotton said:

Us guys on the ORG are all so opinionated (me included). We always think we know best and are happy to say Prince should ahve done this, his biggest mistake was, that album sucked etc

So imagine you are Prince's manager and that he actually listens and respects your advice. What do YOU think he should do once the ONA World Tour is over, say for the next 12 months.



A Complete double set video collection
on DVD
( everything!)
CD 1 80's
CD 2 90's-

He should follow what Janet is doing
for her Fans.
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #32 posted 10/25/02 10:25pm

Snake

NGSPW7200 said:

I'd announce his retirement and watch the "Haters on the Fence" Cry (You know who you are)

Get Mike Scott back in the NPG.

You want to play jazz? "Madhouse 32" with Leeds, Sheila, Blackwell, Candy, Renato, Najee, and that trombone player...

Suggest a "Producer's Compilation CD" like Quincy Jones and George Duke with several artists and "Ghost Players":

Lenny Kravitz
Kip
BrownMark
Dr.Fink
Sheila
Leeds
Rosie
Common
Ani?
India Arie
Terry Lewis and Jimmy Jam (w/ Chante Moore?)
Chaka
Lauryn Hill? What about that "Turn Lauryn Hill's Mic on comment?"
Tori Ruffin
BoysIIMen
Mariah?
En Vogue?
Joan Osborne? ("One of Us")
SOA? (one song together)
TTD?

These artist would have nothing to lose [right now] by working with P on this project(well except for Lenny maybe)

Prince will only perform as composer, producer, colaborator, and background vocalist on this CD.

Announce 1 release-date a season for The NPGMC [4 times a year].

I will try to release something everytime (from the vaults, rehearsals, studio sessions, CD-Roms, concerts, guitar picks, and any behind the scenes footage of any movie.

Kill the NPG audio downloads and get a "real" NPG internet station, or a show on another net-station.

Assign Paisley Park Enterprises PR people to travel to most cities with Community Radio stations and some College stations. These Commercial-free shows play music from lesser known artist that need exposure. They play more Funk-Rock, Neo Soul, and less Hip-Hop R&B.

Schedule 2 "Q & A" sessions this year.

Release "The Ultimate Prince Lyric Book" that will include jam session notes, and studio pictures.

One Evening Outdoors Concert (Paisley Park) around that club he has built. This one cannot be announced to close to The Celebration though. It must happen shortly after it is announced (a week or two). Why? Too many "fams" will not get to see anything over the heads of others.


I like the return of "Strange Relationship" to The NPG setlist so...

Lets include "Beautiful Night(full)".

He needs another vocalist in The NPG.

Intead of "Re-mastering" some past hits and songs, lets rearrange them into new joints... These "re-compositions" will reflect his new beliefs, outlook, and skills as a musician.

Even though that he's made some changes already, I'd like Prince and The NPG to recreate the hits with new vision.

Keep using The Linn (once and a while).
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-I love most that Idea!!! Only skip the Rap artist
how bout Santana,Elton John & Bowie
We all want a big hit again because
we want to relive the Hysteria & Pandemonium we experienced
when Purple Rain was Hot. Actually, he doesn't care if it happens again or not.
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Reply #33 posted 10/26/02 9:29am

NGSPW7200

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Snake said:



-I love most that Idea!!! Only skip the Rap artist
how bout Santana,Elton John & Bowie[/

Elton: This won't happen for various reasons...Supposedly, "Rocketman" has said some bad things about Prince.. Prince jabs back at Elton on some Live performance of "Prettyman" in 2000..

Santana: They've had some "weird things" going on publically..

Santana supposedly said that an unnamed "friend" in the industry wanted to attempt to re-create his (and Clive Davis's) success with "Smooth" and "Supernatural".

Next: NPGOnline's paisley News mentions that Santana needs to give credit for a sample from Larry. (It's basically Prince and Larry...Are they responding to Santana's statements?

Collaboration on "When I Lay My hands On U":
Prince hints at Santana playing guitar at the end of the song. there has been some speculation on Prince.org that the solo is by Carlos himself. Maybe not. If there is a guitarist who can successfully 'mimic" The Legend, Mr. Nelson can.

While recording his current CD, "Shaman", Carlos [supposedly] mentions [or hints] that he wanted Prince and Michael Jackson to perform on a few tracks.

Both he and Santana are touring now..
Will they cross paths?

Bowie? He's worked with Nile Rodgers before...

I just don't see their current styles and beliefs meshing...

More to this "Producer-Composer only CD" I'd suggest:

Chaka and Bruce Hornsby
Victor Wooten
Patti Labelle (its been a while for these two)
Bonni Raitt (finally)
Living Colour (how could I forget them?)
Rachelle
Dionne Farris (one more time)
Brothers Johnson

Official Lyric Book (Volumes)and Site[again]

I wonder If he'd have to have clearance from The WB for a lyric book?
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Reply #34 posted 10/26/02 12:37pm

s6x

I think the 2 Hour HBO concert sounds like a good idea! With the release of the live Disk set going public like the following week!

That is quite ingenious!

s6x -
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Reply #35 posted 10/26/02 1:23pm

thedoorkeeper

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Okay,I'm gonna pretend that I've just been hired as Prince's manager.Prince and I are gonna sit down and talk about our plans for 2003 and beyond.This is what I would tell him...



***REMASTERING THE OLD ALBUMS---Nowadays,everybody from Michael Jackson to Madonna have had their old albums re-mastered.It's time for Prince to do the same!! For too many years,the fans have had to listen to CDs with poor sound.It's time to get his catalog re-mastered,with previously unreleased tracks,extensive liner notes,rare photos and other goodies.EVERY album from 'For You' to 'Lovesexy' should be re-mastered asap.This should be a priority!! If it means burying his pride and working with Warner Bros. again,then so be it.These CDs should all come out in 2003.

***SIGN A LONG TERM DISTRIBUTION DEAL---Let's face it,Prince needs a major label to help him distribute and market his CDs.Why not sign a long-term distribution deal with a major company (like Universal or J Records). This way,we will always know that a new Prince album will arrive every year (like in the Warner days).His career will,once again,have some order and structure.Develop a close working relationship with the company,so that they will eagerly promote and market his work.He can still keep his masters and have total creative freedom.

***RELEASE ALL FOUR MOVIES TO DVD---Work with Warner Bros. to release the films 'Purple Rain','Under The Cherry Moon','Sign O' The Times' and 'Graffiti Bridge' to DVD,with added features (missing scenes,music videos,commentary,interviews with cast,etc).

We'll start with these projects and see how it goes...


I'll tell you how it would go - he would fire you.
If you want to be his manager you might want to start
by understanding what he wants.
And he isn't going to go crawling back to WB.
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Reply #36 posted 10/26/02 1:44pm

DavidEye

thedoorkeeper said:

DavidEye said:

Okay,I'm gonna pretend that I've just been hired as Prince's manager.Prince and I are gonna sit down and talk about our plans for 2003 and beyond.This is what I would tell him...



***REMASTERING THE OLD ALBUMS---Nowadays,everybody from Michael Jackson to Madonna have had their old albums re-mastered.It's time for Prince to do the same!! For too many years,the fans have had to listen to CDs with poor sound.It's time to get his catalog re-mastered,with previously unreleased tracks,extensive liner notes,rare photos and other goodies.EVERY album from 'For You' to 'Lovesexy' should be re-mastered asap.This should be a priority!! If it means burying his pride and working with Warner Bros. again,then so be it.These CDs should all come out in 2003.

***SIGN A LONG TERM DISTRIBUTION DEAL---Let's face it,Prince needs a major label to help him distribute and market his CDs.Why not sign a long-term distribution deal with a major company (like Universal or J Records). This way,we will always know that a new Prince album will arrive every year (like in the Warner days).His career will,once again,have some order and structure.Develop a close working relationship with the company,so that they will eagerly promote and market his work.He can still keep his masters and have total creative freedom.

***RELEASE ALL FOUR MOVIES TO DVD---Work with Warner Bros. to release the films 'Purple Rain','Under The Cherry Moon','Sign O' The Times' and 'Graffiti Bridge' to DVD,with added features (missing scenes,music videos,commentary,interviews with cast,etc).

We'll start with these projects and see how it goes...


I'll tell you how it would go - he would fire you.
If you want to be his manager you might want to start
by understanding what he wants.
And he isn't going to go crawling back to WB.



So,he would fire me for suggesting that he work with his old label (WB) to have his recordings get re-mastered? Well,then so be it! A manager should be able to speak their mind and challenge an artist's ideas if he feels the need to do so.And,I did not say that he should go "crawling back to WB",I merely stated that he should put aside his differences and work with them on re-mastering the old albums.Let's face it,at this point,he would NOT be able to re-master them without their assistance anyway and who knows how long it will be until he gets ALL his master recordings back? In the meantime,it's the fans who lose out.If he would fire me for telling him the truth,then that's fine.
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Reply #37 posted 10/26/02 1:50pm

Anji

If I was his manager, I'd turn his current music into the commercial success it could be. The Rainbow Children is full of brilliant music, therefore there is an audience for it but the market needs to be specifically channelled to provide those people with this. The NPGMC is a good idea for current hardcore fans, but as a manager I'd probably be more interested in presenting his new music and appealing to new, different listeners that have no access to it but would probably enjoy it. There are so many folks that don't know that they want to hear The Rainbow Children, simply because they have no idea what it sounds like.

Similarly with Xenophobia, again I'd publicise and promote heavily in those new and different markets where Prince hasn't really got any depth or exposure, and present them with a chance to listen. Most people when they get tuned in find out that they like it and are very surprised that it's Prince. That's the simplicity of it.

Concentrated, channelled, specialised marketing is what is called for with Prince's music at the moment. Granted, there is still a song or two that will appeal to the MTV kids, so I'd gladly give that to them. Basically, I'm saying I wouldn't change what Prince is doing, he wouldn't like that and it would result in bad music. I'd simply present those aspects of what he is currently doing to the markets in which they would actually be of interest. It's not just his fans that are interested in good music. So many concert attendees came along with current fans, not knowing what they were about to experience, didn't know what they were experiencing and left thinking, I want some of that.

I think most fans are too close to the music and what Prince offers exclusivley for them, to see that actually his new music would appeal, perhaps even more so, to new, different types of listeners.
[This message was edited Sat Oct 26 13:55:13 PDT 2002 by Anji]
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Reply #38 posted 10/26/02 1:50pm

pimpytheclown

#1) Anyone seen "A&E's TOTAL REQUEST LIVE"? Do a live show with Mark McEwen hosting, pack the joint with Prince fans,have Prince fans call in requesting songs, and promote the hell out of "ONE NITE ALONE-LIVE"!
Prince does okay when he appears on Oprah, Larry King, and Rosie O'Fat's shows- he comes across as more human, and less the moody guy that turns off so many.An A&E appearance, with adoring fans, and his live vibe can only work out awsomely, like the EARTH, WIND and FIRE show;make a deal to sell the cd during the show and a video of the show with A&E!

2)"ONE NITE ALONE LIVE" is a slam dunk! Prince is better live than in-studio; critics know it, fans know it! Just make it affordable and give it cool packaging (read:NO PARKE!)

THE KEY is to follow it up with another release quickly-I mean within a few months-a double whammy showing the world his talent and genius is undeniable!

the answer..."ROADHOUSE GARDEN". Really!I doubt he's got another album ready to go that can equal the songwriting and colorful sounds of these old Revolution songs!"ONA-LIVE" shows his musicianship of today, and "ROADHOUSE" shows the height of his creativity and gives a historical perspective off a living legend! Vault material builds the mistique.Release a single with animation or some gimmick video.

If PRINCE does these two things he would rehabilitate his popularity in just months! THEN maybe Warner would be interested in remastering old stuff or whatever. I doubt they will. Warner should package up his old 12's in a box set next, but they'll probably do "Prince:The Ballads" or something half---assed and cheap!
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Reply #39 posted 10/26/02 6:35pm

Wolf

NGSPW7200 said:

Snake said:



-I love most that Idea!!! Only skip the Rap artist
how bout Santana,Elton John & Bowie[/

Elton: This won't happen for various reasons...Supposedly, "Rocketman" has said some bad things about Prince.. Prince jabs back at Elton on some Live performance of "Prettyman" in 2000..

Santana: They've had some "weird things" going on publically..

Santana supposedly said that an unnamed "friend" in the industry wanted to attempt to re-create his (and Clive Davis's) success with "Smooth" and "Supernatural".

Next: NPGOnline's paisley News mentions that Santana needs to give credit for a sample from Larry. (It's basically Prince and Larry...Are they responding to Santana's statements?

Collaboration on "When I Lay My hands On U":
Prince hints at Santana playing guitar at the end of the song. there has been some speculation on Prince.org that the solo is by Carlos himself. Maybe not. If there is a guitarist who can successfully 'mimic" The Legend, Mr. Nelson can.

While recording his current CD, "Shaman", Carlos [supposedly] mentions [or hints] that he wanted Prince and Michael Jackson to perform on a few tracks.

Both he and Santana are touring now..
Will they cross paths?

Bowie? He's worked with Nile Rodgers before...

I just don't see their current styles and beliefs meshing...

More to this "Producer-Composer only CD" I'd suggest:

Chaka and Bruce Hornsby
Victor Wooten
Patti Labelle (its been a while for these two)
Bonni Raitt (finally)
Living Colour (how could I forget them?)
Rachelle
Dionne Farris (one more time)
Brothers Johnson

Official Lyric Book (Volumes)and Site[again]

I wonder If he'd have to have clearance from The WB for a lyric book?


But aren't you forgetting that Carlos Santana played guitar at one of Prince's concerts during the American part of the tour? I think the animosity may only be in Prince's fans' minds.
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Reply #40 posted 10/26/02 8:50pm

Spirit

Give me the job.
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2 love me is Free!
2 hate me will cost $100 yearly memebership fee!
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Reply #41 posted 10/27/02 8:56am

Heavenly

tell him to get me a visa to the US. I want my baby beside me!!! cry
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Reply #42 posted 10/27/02 9:05am

Eraserhead

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if i was his manager..


Record an album with the Revolution again. And talk dirty. No collaborations, no r'n b, no Ja Rule type of bullshit.. Just Prince and the revolution making one hell of an album again. funky, electronical, sexy music.
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Reply #43 posted 10/27/02 9:54am

NGSPW7200

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Here y'go:


Remasters: Prince probably has no say in remastering because..(ta-da!)

...he doesn't own his own masters...


Most of you Lover/haters/Obsessives know this already (They know who they are)

-Its the reason Sony didn't really need Mike to remaster all of his hits last year.

Now all of the people who bought "History" as a "Greatest Hits" collection got robbed. It wasn't Remastered!-

No. Sony could care less about "Captain Eo" now.

E-mail The WB. Prince has no say in the matter.
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Reply #44 posted 10/27/02 10:02am

Wolf

I'm almost 100 percent sure he does which is why those albums aren't remastered yet. But notice other Warner BRothers artists like Van Halen and Madonna have had a lot of their 80s albums remastered on cd.
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Reply #45 posted 10/27/02 10:09am

Wolf

Maybe I should expand on my point. I think the fact that Prince had a tumultuous relationship with Warner Brothers the last years of his time with them has something to do with those albums not being remastered. Van Halen and Madonna never had the big drama with Warner Brothers that Prince had, and the Van Halen remasters were before they were let go from that company. I think the fact that those are still his songs means that the songwriter does have a say whether he or she owns the masters or not.
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Reply #46 posted 10/27/02 10:18am

NGSPW7200

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The Revolution:

Ask yourself a question...

The "WB" owned the rights to releases under the names of: "Prince","Camille", and "The Time".

Why wouldn't they control any new releases by "The Revolution"?

Yeah.. They can reunite and tour with some new material, but they probably could not release a new CD on their own.

I remember Terry Lewis and Jimmy Jam seeking to reunite The Time for a movie with Janet (who was an A&M Recording artist) back in 1988.

Morris and the Time were still connected with The WB.

Janet, and Jesse Johnson were signed to A&M Records.

Nothing happened.

They had to come back to Warners and Prince (- Janet).

No choice.

Even though Prince didn't want to appear in "a sequel to Purple Rain", he wanted Morris and The Guys to have their own seperate project (he's stated something similar in a 1990 The Rolling Stone Article).

No choice.

The WB merged their projects...(probably because people were crying for a "Rain" sequel and not another "Cherry Moon")


I think that Wendy and Lisa wanted to be an "equal creative partner" with Prince. They probably wanted a "Trio" CD, and not another Revolution CD. Why? Because they would have less control over its development and marketing.
[This message was edited Sun Oct 27 19:39:19 PST 2002 by NGSPW7200]
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Reply #47 posted 10/27/02 10:27am

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"I'm almost 100 percent sure he does which is why those albums aren't remastered yet. But notice other Warner BRothers artists like Van Halen and Madonna have had a lot of their 80s albums remastered on cd."

Madonna and Van Halen reamained on WB Records before The WB remastered their CDs.

Prince regained his name from any contract of Warners.

They own his masters from the period he appeared as Prince for The Company.

WB records released, "The Very Best of Prince" CD, around The time of his Arista CD, "Rave".

You know of his disgust with this release...

Stop ignoring the facts to spread daily angst..

He has no say.

They do not need his permission.

If Prince had regained his masters, like his name, he would've re-released and remastered his CD's under contract with Universal Records (especially if some of your "Fence-dwellers" believe he's losing money).

He cannot.

Again. E-mail WB about remastering his WB CDs.
[This message was edited Sun Oct 27 10:50:06 PST 2002 by NGSPW7200]
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Reply #48 posted 10/27/02 10:27am

Wolf

Contracts and copyrights in the music business are many times not as simple or as logical as some fans would think. Sometimes it's complicated. I'm not in any way an expert on the issue although I've read alot about it, but I do believe it has to be a collaborative effort for remasters since he doesn't own them, and yet they are still his songs.
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Reply #49 posted 10/27/02 10:36am

Tibor

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Worlwide tour of the eastern europas!

Other than this stay the same funky Prince as you are the best by far! Elvis Costello second with Kylie Minogue and Adam Ant close behind.

Lucky we have Justin now to carry Prince's music on in futures.
My name is Tibor and I am funky!
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Reply #50 posted 10/27/02 10:41am

NGSPW7200

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The WB [supposedly] forced a Van Halen "Greatest Hits" reunion with Roth that Eddie did not want.

Eddie let go of Sammy Haggar (a better singer) for his own reasons..

Eddie's "bad hip" needed surgery.

The WB released The GH anyway.

Roth and Eddie argued. Eddie released Roth instantly.

Eddie chose that guy who sang "More Than Words" to head the group's new release (which was supposed to follow projected success of a GH reunion with Roth and some new tracks with Haggar).

The new singer tried to sound like Haggar.

He could not.

Their fans rejected him.

Eddie paid for his own "hand-picked" replacement.

The WB release them.

Unfortunately, Eddie has been fighting cancer.

Record companies have little patience with supposed "aging rockers who want more control and $$".

After giving them a "fat" contract with nice signing bonus, the companies are compelled to drop them faster...

The only ones who are safe now are The Rolling Stones and Bruce.

Fortunately for Mariah, her agent negotiated an awesome "golden parachute".

The Recording Industry is becoming very too similar to Sports.
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Reply #51 posted 10/27/02 11:17am

Wolf

NGSPW7200 said:

The WB [supposedly] forced a Van Halen "Greatest Hits" reunion with Roth that Eddie did not want.


Well if you listen to Eddie Van Halen talk that wasn't true. But it has nothing to do with remasters.
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