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When will Prince make a full-fledge rock album? I've been feeling nastalgic since this Sunday will mark the one year anniversary of Prince putting on one of the greatest halftime shows at the Super Bowl of all time, and his guitar heroics, it begs the question when will Prince release a rock CD. Meaning as Dez Dickerson once put it "guitars, bass,and drums"; no sequencers, keyboards, flutes, horns and no Claire Fisher string arrangements and release it commerically to make sure it reaches as wide an audience as possible. Not that it matters, but ironically he has proven his mettle in all music genres, but one way he can avoid putting filler material on his albums is compose with nothing but a guitar. For every good song he makes, he writes a song like "Mr. Goodnight" or "Incense And Candles". 3121 #1 THIS YEAR | |
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Hopefully never | |
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If he does then I would love to hear it. My man can fucking rock out on his axe, and I would love to see an album reflecting that.
You know, everyone always wants Prince to play some Soul and Funk on his albums. That's cool and yes, he can perform that quite well. But Prince can rock out too and he unfairly doesn't get that much credit for it. If I heard an album of songs that sounded as amazing as "Into The Light", "Let's Go Crazy", "Dolphin", "Guitar", yada yada, then I would totally buy it. Hell, when will Prince make a full-fledged New Wave album? Why did he have to stop at "1999"?  NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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We all would love a bite of the purple rock. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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Tame said: We all would love a bite of the purple rock.
 What are U insinuating with that? If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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Tame said: We all would love a bite of the purple rock.
No.  It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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bashraka said: When will Prince make a full-fledge rock album?
I've been feeling nastalgic since this Sunday will mark the one year anniversary of Prince putting on one of the greatest halftime shows at the Super Bowl of all time, and his guitar heroics, it begs the question when will Prince release a rock CD. Meaning as Dez Dickerson once put it "guitars, bass,and drums"; no sequencers, keyboards, flutes, horns and no Claire Fisher string arrangements and release it commerically to make sure it reaches as wide an audience as possible. Not that it matters, but ironically he has proven his mettle in all music genres, but one way he can avoid putting filler material on his albums is compose with nothing but a guitar. For every good song he makes, he writes a song like "Mr. Goodnight" or "Incense And Candles". Unfortunately he doesn't have the proper discipline or the mindset to record a focused, straight up rock album - he always has to throw in some uninspired, insipid soul and bland tired-ass funk as he's done time and again for 30-40+ albums. His ego insures that that one true masterpiece will never see the light of day. I no longer believe he's capable of it... Prove me wrong, bitch!
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Dance said: Hopefully never
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He won't. He's never stuck to one genre of music. I think that's why we're all are fans of his. You can't put him in a box. He even said in interviews that he wanted to play all types of music.
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Paris9748430 said: He won't. He's never stuck to one genre of music. I think that's why we're all are fans of his. You can't put him in a box. He even said in interviews that he wanted to play all types of music.
The closest you'll probably ever come is either Purple Rain or Chaos & Disorder. 
Yes! That's the answer I was looking for. I know people are disappointed with Prince's latest releases and want him to do a genre of their choice. He keeps changing his style with each one. I think that if you want him to do a certain genre, its more than likely that he's already done it somewhere along the way. Those 2 albums came to mind for me as "rock" albums and that's where people should look. I'm personally a fan of those 2 songs mentioned above and several people knock them off as R&B sell-outs. Incense & Candles and Mr. Goodnight have their moments (for the 2nd, the whole song in my opinion), but they're most likely the most seductive types of songs he puts out these days. He can't do anything like "Come" or anything from Dirty Mind album anymore, so this is what he leaves us with. That's what people expect and don't want to accept that that part of him is gone. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: Paris9748430 said: He won't. He's never stuck to one genre of music. I think that's why we're all are fans of his. You can't put him in a box. He even said in interviews that he wanted to play all types of music.
The closest you'll probably ever come is either Purple Rain or Chaos & Disorder.
Yes! That's the answer I was looking for. I know people are disappointed with Prince's latest releases and want him to do a genre of their choice. He keeps changing his style with each one. I think that if you want him to do a certain genre, its more than likely that he's already done it somewhere along the way. Those 2 albums came to mind for me as "rock" albums and that's where people should look. I'm personally a fan of those 2 songs mentioned above and several people knock them off as R&B sell-outs. Incense & Candles and Mr. Goodnight have their moments (for the 2nd, the whole song in my opinion), but they're most likely the most seductive types of songs he puts out these days. He can't do anything like "Come" or anything from Dirty Mind album anymore, so this is what he leaves us with. That's what people expect and don't want to accept that that part of him is gone. Dunno what you're clapping for cos to me comments like ""he's never stuck to one genre" are as lame, tired and predictable as his recent albums. His commercially released albums since the early 90's haven't really evolved one iota. Each pretty much follows the same old now-tired theme. There's the cliche soul track, the cliche funk track, the cliche horn track, the cliche guitar based track etc. (you know the routine; the sexual song, the spiritual song, the love-lost ballad, the dance-floor romp, the 'weird' track, the "i'm all that" track yada yada yada...) One word : PREDICTABLE - And thus, YES YOU CAN put him in a box... I just wish he'd get out of that box once in a while and try something new - something singular and focused without trying to pander to all genres (and in the process watering himself down) (New Power Soul was singularly boring but not exactly focused or the slightest bit inspiring). (What was it that Little Richard said about "a little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing") If only he would (or could) step away from the same old easy box of tricks and actually challenge himself musically again - focus on one style (in this case ROCK) and actually put his heart and soul into it, work up some serious disciplined sweat, and strive to create an epic classic. But sadly with age and fame has come complacency and routine (and knowledge that he has a album-buying fan base who are largely willing to accept his mediocrity rather than demand his potential best...). And as for the tired argument of "but what about Purple Rain and Chaos & Disorder?" - seriously, anyone who understands the concept of a true rock album (as opposed to POP) find comments like that truly laughable - when you hear him go to town on the guitar on Small Club, or RnRHOF'S 'guitar gently weeps' or SNL's Fury, the little-seen Undertaker video etc - you realize he's never used any of that potential on a true raw rock album - he can do it live, why not direct that raw vibe into a true focused rock album and leave the Dinners with Deloris & Babys I'm a Stars for all his funk, soul, RnB and jazz based pop albums... you know, just once... 40+ albums, and not one real straight ballsy rock album - and this from a guy who can do all genres and make the axe howl like a mutha-fucka... pretty sad really... 
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FlamingRaindrop said: DreamyPopRoyalty said:
Yes! That's the answer I was looking for. I know people are disappointed with Prince's latest releases and want him to do a genre of their choice. He keeps changing his style with each one. I think that if you want him to do a certain genre, its more than likely that he's already done it somewhere along the way. Those 2 albums came to mind for me as "rock" albums and that's where people should look. I'm personally a fan of those 2 songs mentioned above and several people knock them off as R&B sell-outs. Incense & Candles and Mr. Goodnight have their moments (for the 2nd, the whole song in my opinion), but they're most likely the most seductive types of songs he puts out these days. He can't do anything like "Come" or anything from Dirty Mind album anymore, so this is what he leaves us with. That's what people expect and don't want to accept that that part of him is gone. Dunno what you're clapping for cos to me comments like ""he's never stuck to one genre" are as lame, tired and predictable as his recent albums. His commercially released albums since the early 90's haven't really evolved one iota. Each pretty much follows the same old now-tired theme. There's the cliche soul track, the cliche funk track, the cliche horn track, the cliche guitar based track etc. (you know the routine; the sexual song, the spiritual song, the love-lost ballad, the dance-floor romp, the 'weird' track, the "i'm all that" track yada yada yada...) One word : PREDICTABLE - And thus, YES YOU CAN put him in a box... I just wish he'd get out of that box once in a while and try something new - something singular and focused without trying to pander to all genres (and in the process watering himself down) (New Power Soul was singularly boring but not exactly focused or the slightest bit inspiring). (What was it that Little Richard said about "a little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing") If only he would (or could) step away from the same old easy box of tricks and actually challenge himself musically again - focus on one style (in this case ROCK) and actually put his heart and soul into it, work up some serious disciplined sweat, and strive to create an epic classic. But sadly with age and fame has come complacency and routine (and knowledge that he has a album-buying fan base who are largely willing to accept his mediocrity rather than demand his potential best...). And as for the tired argument of "but what about Purple Rain and Chaos & Disorder?" - seriously, anyone who understands the concept of a true rock album (as opposed to POP) find comments like that truly laughable - when you hear him go to town on the guitar on Small Club, or RnRHOF'S 'guitar gently weeps' or SNL's Fury, the little-seen Undertaker video etc - you realize he's never used any of that potential on a true raw rock album - he can do it live, why not direct that raw vibe into a true focused rock album and leave the Dinners with Deloris & Babys I'm a Stars for all his funk, soul, RnB and jazz based pop albums... you know, just once... 40+ albums, and not one a real straight ballsy rock album - and this from a guy who can do all genres and make the axe howl like a mutha-fucka... pretty sad really...
[Edited 2/2/08 20:30pm] The thing about Prince putting out an album of one genre is that it's bound to piss alot of people off. If he was to put out a strictly rock album, the fans of his funk/R&B songs will be upset. Hell, Prince still hasn't gotten some of his Black fans back after putting out those albums in the Mid-80's If he was to put out a strictly R&B Funk album, people like you would be saying "drop the horns", "Fire Maceo", "pick up the guitar and rock the motherfucker". Nothing Prince will ever do will satisfy 100% of his fanbase. Did you ever think that maybe Prince doesn't want to make an album that focuses on one genre because HE thinks it's boring??? Nothing would be cooler than if Prince put out a no-holds barred rock album. But just because he doesn't do what YOU want him to do doesn't mean there's anything wrong with him. JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!! | |
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I think more and more, as time goes on, Prince is making music now that can't really be strictly defined in any one genre. I would also guess that he is probably so financially secure at this point in his life (through the remainder), that he probably has very little concern with what would be "popular" or with what would "sell". I'm feeling like his focus these days is probably more on just expressing his soul - straight out. Playing and recording what he feels, when he feels it. 
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Paris9748430 said:
The thing about Prince putting out an album of one genre is that it's bound to piss alot of people off. Okay 1st up i doubt Prince could care less if he pisses people of, hell he often seems to go out of his way to do just that... If he was to put out a strictly rock album, the fans of his funk/R&B songs will be upset. Hell, Prince still hasn't gotten some of his Black fans back after putting out those albums in the Mid-80's If they can't handle just one album without funk/R&B then fuck 'em, plain and simple. They'll get their funk/R&B fix with his following album (while waiting they have 30-40 prince albums they can chuck on to hear it...) If he was to put out a strictly R&B Funk album, people like you would be saying "drop the horns", "Fire Maceo", "pick up the guitar and rock the motherfucker". Not if he were to put out a strictly rock album, i wouldn't complain about another strictly RnB funk album. In fact, i think it'd be a brilliant move if for each of the next 5 years he were to put out just one album a year each focused in a particular genre where he gave that particular genre an ass whooping, focused album. I'd have no problem with a purely funk album or a purely RnB album, purely blues, jazz or gospel. Hell some of my favorite Prince albums are albums focused in one style of sound: Dirty Mind, 1999, Madhouse 8, Truth, One Nite Alone, Xpectation, NEWS - albums where he seems to have a definite sound, a definite idea in mind. Far more preferable to the "same old easy box of tricks" albums i described in my last post - all sounding uninspired and alike. But the point is, unlike RnB, funk and jazz, he HASN'T EVER DONE an ass-kicking rock album! Nothing Prince will ever do will satisfy 100% of his fanbase. True, but there's also a percentage of his fanbase (and potential millions more) that could well be 100% satisfied with a ballsy ass-kick guitar-howling rock album! Not asking for 1 every year - but hell, just 1, once, please... Did you ever think that maybe Prince doesn't want to make an album that focuses on one genre because HE thinks it's boring??? Or maybe he thinks he isn't up to doing it justice?... Nothing would be cooler than if Prince put out a no-holds barred rock album. But just because he doesn't do what YOU want him to do doesn't mean there's anything wrong with him. Just responding to the question posed in the title of this thread : When will Prince make a full-fledge rock album? I just think a change from the now-tired norm would be nice - and it's a little sad seeing the untapped potential going to waste... But like i said earlier: Unfortunately these are the Hef Years - he's at that Godfather 3 phase in his life/career - the passion isn't what it once was... | |
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Ironically, I think it's actually Prince's trademark for mixing genres that is his biggest weakness on his newest albums.
At this point, Prince can still bring the goods with his rock-oriented songs. It's his bland R&B and James Brown-esque funk songs that have weighed his albums down as of late. A pure rock album would be fantastic if he could resist the urge to drown out his guitar as he's so often done. The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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This is ONE and ONLY one way 4 this 2 happen. Prince needs 2 turn over the choices of the pick list (songs recorded but not chosen 2 be on any particular project) over 2 someone other than HIMSELF and let them choose the songs 4 a rock cd. Prince is 2 involved 2 do this himself. He will always choose a diverse list over a single genre list. That's just the way it is.
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PurpleKnight said: Ironically, I think it's actually Prince's trademark for mixing genres that is his biggest weakness on his newest albums.
At this point, Prince can still bring the goods with his rock-oriented songs. It's his bland R&B and James Brown-esque funk songs that have weighed his albums down as of late. A pure rock album would be fantastic if he could resist the urge to drown out his guitar as he's so often done. Damn! You said it better in 3 sentences than i could do in 3 rambling posts | |
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Graycap23 said: This is ONE and ONLY one way 4 this 2 happen. Prince needs 2 turn over the choices of the pick list (songs recorded but not chosen 2 be on any particular project) over 2 someone other than HIMSELF and let them choose the songs 4 a rock cd. Prince is 2 involved 2 do this himself. He will always choose a diverse list over a single genre list. That's just the way it is.
It's been suggested.....and we have all seen/heard the results. Agreed - maybe even bring in a serious rock producer too, give him a bit of a push. | |
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I'd like an album with just guitar, live drums, bass and vocals... can be rock, funk or whatever... | |
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Honestly, I'm totally down with him doing a straight up rock album. We all know he can do it but the thing is, will he? Time will tell, but he's at a point where he can do anything and has been for years. He's proven that he can master just about every genre of music, why not make a focused album with one central musical theme. I'd say that a rock album would be the best way to start. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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A Prince album where he only focuses on one genre. . .
God no! 
Even his supposed 'jazz' albums, 'pop' albums and 'rock' albums have always had a splash of other genres to spice things up. Prince's legacy has been built by his wonderfully eclectic style. He should never sacrifice that, even if it's only for one album. If you want an album of only one genre, then make your own one up from his back catalogue. | |
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Haystack said: A Prince album where he only focuses on one genre. . .
God no!
Even his supposed 'jazz' albums, 'pop' albums and 'rock' albums have always had a splash of other genres to spice things up. Prince's legacy has been built by his wonderfully eclectic style. He should never sacrifice that, even if it's only for one album. If you want an album of only one genre, then make your own one up from his back catalogue. Exactly. The way music is going albums have become less and less important. more people seem interested individual songs than whole works. In this digital age any of us can create the Prince album of our dreams from all the released, unreleased, and live bootleg songs. People need to except Prince has he is (or move on). As Prince said in "LOVE" Stop telling me what U want me 2 hear Stop telling me what U want me 2 fear Stop tripping on somethin' U overheard Love is winning without a word Stop giving me your wish list Love is free from all this If we get an all Rock album fine but all this demanding that Prince fulfill your musical dreams is silly. | |
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tricky99 said: Haystack said: A Prince album where he only focuses on one genre. . .
God no!
Even his supposed 'jazz' albums, 'pop' albums and 'rock' albums have always had a splash of other genres to spice things up. Prince's legacy has been built by his wonderfully eclectic style. He should never sacrifice that, even if it's only for one album. If you want an album of only one genre, then make your own one up from his back catalogue. Exactly. The way music is going albums have become less and less important. more people seem interested individual songs than whole works. In this digital age any of us can create the Prince album of our dreams from all the released, unreleased, and live bootleg songs. People need to except Prince has he is (or move on). As Prince said in "LOVE" Stop telling me what U want me 2 hear Stop telling me what U want me 2 fear Stop tripping on somethin' U overheard Love is winning without a word Stop giving me your wish list Love is free from all this If we get an all Rock album fine but all this demanding that Prince fulfill your musical dreams is silly. all of the above are true, I completely agree.
And that last part, pretty much says it all had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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| a rock album by Prince? This could be interesting,but only if it's a good rock album.I was disappointed with 'Chaos and Disorder'. | |
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tricky99 said: Haystack said: A Prince album where he only focuses on one genre. . .
God no!
Even his supposed 'jazz' albums, 'pop' albums and 'rock' albums have always had a splash of other genres to spice things up. Prince's legacy has been built by his wonderfully eclectic style. He should never sacrifice that, even if it's only for one album. If you want an album of only one genre, then make your own one up from his back catalogue. Exactly. The way music is going albums have become less and less important. more people seem interested individual songs than whole works. In this digital age any of us can create the Prince album of our dreams from all the released, unreleased, and live bootleg songs. People need to except Prince has he is (or move on). As Prince said in "LOVE" Stop telling me what U want me 2 hear Stop telling me what U want me 2 fear Stop tripping on somethin' U overheard Love is winning without a word Stop giving me your wish list Love is free from all this If we get an all Rock album fine but all this demanding that Prince fulfill your musical dreams is silly.  i love P because he does all types of music and i would be dissapointed if he did release an album which focused on 1 genre [Edited 2/4/08 7:13am] Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
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Paris9748430 said: FlamingRaindrop said: Dunno what you're clapping for cos to me comments like ""he's never stuck to one genre" are as lame, tired and predictable as his recent albums. His commercially released albums since the early 90's haven't really evolved one iota. Each pretty much follows the same old now-tired theme. There's the cliche soul track, the cliche funk track, the cliche horn track, the cliche guitar based track etc. (you know the routine; the sexual song, the spiritual song, the love-lost ballad, the dance-floor romp, the 'weird' track, the "i'm all that" track yada yada yada...) One word : PREDICTABLE - And thus, YES YOU CAN put him in a box... I just wish he'd get out of that box once in a while and try something new - something singular and focused without trying to pander to all genres (and in the process watering himself down) (New Power Soul was singularly boring but not exactly focused or the slightest bit inspiring). (What was it that Little Richard said about "a little bit of something beats a whole lot of nothing") If only he would (or could) step away from the same old easy box of tricks and actually challenge himself musically again - focus on one style (in this case ROCK) and actually put his heart and soul into it, work up some serious disciplined sweat, and strive to create an epic classic. But sadly with age and fame has come complacency and routine (and knowledge that he has a album-buying fan base who are largely willing to accept his mediocrity rather than demand his potential best...). And as for the tired argument of "but what about Purple Rain and Chaos & Disorder?" - seriously, anyone who understands the concept of a true rock album (as opposed to POP) find comments like that truly laughable - when you hear him go to town on the guitar on Small Club, or RnRHOF'S 'guitar gently weeps' or SNL's Fury, the little-seen Undertaker video etc - you realize he's never used any of that potential on a true raw rock album - he can do it live, why not direct that raw vibe into a true focused rock album and leave the Dinners with Deloris & Babys I'm a Stars for all his funk, soul, RnB and jazz based pop albums... you know, just once... 40+ albums, and not one a real straight ballsy rock album - and this from a guy who can do all genres and make the axe howl like a mutha-fucka... pretty sad really...
[Edited 2/2/08 20:30pm] The thing about Prince putting out an album of one genre is that it's bound to piss alot of people off. If he was to put out a strictly rock album, the fans of his funk/R&B songs will be upset. Hell, Prince still hasn't gotten some of his Black fans back after putting out those albums in the Mid-80's If he was to put out a strictly R&B Funk album, people like you would be saying "drop the horns", "Fire Maceo", "pick up the guitar and rock the motherfucker". Nothing Prince will ever do will satisfy 100% of his fanbase. Did you ever think that maybe Prince doesn't want to make an album that focuses on one genre because HE thinks it's boring??? Nothing would be cooler than if Prince put out a no-holds barred rock album. But just because he doesn't do what YOU want him to do doesn't mean there's anything wrong with him. i agee with what ur saying. tho i'm not in favor of a all rock album tho. and i'm tired of hearing fans wanting just this genre..news flash prince is about FUNK not rockman, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: Paris9748430 said:
[i]If he was to put out a strictly rock album, the fans of his funk/R&B songs will be upset. Hell, Prince still hasn't gotten some of his Black fans back after putting out those albums in the Mid-80's If they can't handle just one album without funk/R&B then fuck 'em, plain and simple. They'll get their funk/R&B fix with his following album (while waiting they have 30-40 prince albums they can chuck on to hear it...) ... we already suffered through that..it was called planet earth
and that's what happend the last cry went up 4 a rock album ..so suffice it 2 say ..either take chaos and disorder as ur rock album and deal with it or switch over 2 metallica and get ur rock fix there. how would it seem if on a metallica forum someone says "hey i want metallica 2 do a funk album!" man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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