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PrintableCan't say I love it! It is growing on me though! On the 1st listen I described it like someone had left a flaming bag of dog shit on my doorstep!
It's taken a lot of listens 2 get me 2 come around 2 it. But still, some tracks R just not workin 4 me! He just seems 2 lack the love he has on stage in the studio! | |
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Giovanni777 said: DevotedPuppy said:  I am feeling quite feisty lately because of a lot of crap I've been dealing with at work.
I mean, some people *coughfamscough* might say it's mean to say Prince should have tried harder, but if I give a shitty tour or do a half-assed job, I usually know it and if someone calls me on it, I'm like, "Yeah, you're right, that tour was pretty bad." Then I get my shit together, re-read the info, look at the exhibition some more and try to do a better job next time.  Whoa. People R going 2 say what they're going 2 say... it's not mean 4 people 2 say that. It's an opinion. There's a fine line between being objective and being subjective 2 one's own taste. It's a great balance 2 be able 2 see both. I'm a player and I record. I have an ear. If Prince is off in any way, I can hear it. This has nothing 2 do with taste. Musically and sonically, Planet Earth is solid, diverse, cohesive, and utterly Prince. It is brief. So what? There will be more just around the corner... can't wait 2 hear and see what happens then (next). Good-god, the omnipotent one has spoken; "Planet Earth is an incredible album, straight up" - those who disagree or have an opposing opinion: U ARE WRONG!! 
lets all us other philistines bow down to the mercy of the great all-knowing one: he's a PLAYER, he RECORDS, he has AN EAR!!!... (as we are constantly being told, thread after thread...) 
But then i suppose, your ARE the musician, you ARE the 'audio pro', therefore how dear anyone have an opinion conflicting with yours. (funny, after awhile it becomes very Monty Python...  ) | |
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Haystack said: In the past, Prince's shorter albums have generally had a specific vibe and/or theme running through them and it's the longer albums that have had that mix-tape feel. With his past three albums, to differing extents, each of them has sounded more like a mix-tape than a fully conceived album. For short albums, I don't think that this format works and as a result, they come across as somehow abstract and not quite finished and I think this reflects on how they're then received by the fans and even the casual listener. I absolutely agree with this. His shorter albums in the past work terrifically and feel like complete works on their own terms. The last three records, while each have their strengths, have a very mix-tape, not-entirely-thought-out feel that works against them in their shorter format. [Edited 2/5/08 20:54pm] I've seen the future, and boy it's rough... | |
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I gotta wear a hazmat suit just to be in the vicinity of the steaming aural toxin that is Planet Earth.
But, whatever floats your boat. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: chillichocaholic said: I like Planet Earth
 I dont particularly care what anyone else says 
That includes U Freddy L4OAtheorigional    no chocolate bar 4 u  go put back on Love from 3121 and u instantly know what planet pieceofshit is lacking Oh just  and give me the Candy  PRINCE IS WATCHING U  " When an Artist Creates, whatever they create belongs to society"
U can't polish a turd.. but u can roll it in glitter In my Profile Pic | |
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I like this album a lot. My favorite since Gold. But I think I liked it a lot more in the low quality leak version, where it sounded a lot more raw and fresh. As released, it does have more edge and energy than the soul-stripped 3121, but still, could have used a few rougher edges than what we ended up with. "Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran | |
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FlamingRaindrop said: Giovanni777 said: Whoa. People R going 2 say what they're going 2 say... it's not mean 4 people 2 say that. It's an opinion. There's a fine line between being objective and being subjective 2 one's own taste. It's a great balance 2 be able 2 see both. I'm a player and I record. I have an ear. If Prince is off in any way, I can hear it. This has nothing 2 do with taste. Musically and sonically, Planet Earth is solid, diverse, cohesive, and utterly Prince. It is brief. So what? There will be more just around the corner... can't wait 2 hear and see what happens then (next). Good-god, the omnipotent one has spoken; "Planet Earth is an incredible album, straight up" - those who disagree or have an opposing opinion: U ARE WRONG!!
lets all us other philistines bow down to the mercy of the great all-knowing one: he's a PLAYER, he RECORDS, he has AN EAR!!!... (as we are constantly being told, thread after thread...)
But then i suppose, your ARE the musician, you ARE the 'audio pro', therefore how dear anyone have an opinion conflicting with yours. (funny, after awhile it becomes very Monty Python... )I started this thread 4 both those who dig 'Planet Earth', and 4 those who don't. Do U have anything at all constructive 2 say in your rants? I'm really starting 2 wonder about what happened in your life 2 make U so damn miserable. I feel 4 U Red. I really do. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: Planet Earth is an incredible album, straight up.
No, it isn't. It's mediocre at best, and virtually interchangeable with 3121 or Musicology. Honey, if you like it, fine. But at least be man enough to admit it isn't great, or even that good. Even Prince knows it isn't, that's why he barely promoted it, that's why he barely played anything from it in cocnert, that's why he already moved on. Prince gave away MILLIONS of copies and it just did NOTHING. If this album really contained worthwhile music, people would still be hyping it. . [Edited 2/6/08 7:28am] © Bart Van Hemelen
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BartVanHemelen said: Giovanni777 said: Planet Earth is an incredible album, straight up.
No, it isn't. It's mediocre at best, and virtually interchangeable with 3121 or Musicology. Honey, if you like it, fine. But at least be man enough to admit it isn't great, or even that good. Even Prince knows it isn't, that's why he barely promoted it, that's why he barely played anything from it in concert, that's why he already moved on. Prince gave away MILLIONS of copies and it just did NOTHING. If this album really contained worthwhile music, people would still be hyping it. . [Edited 2/6/08 7:28am] Hey Bart. Well I don't really hear it as being similar 2 'Musicology' or '3121', and the only thing stopping it from being truly great is it's length, and the inclusion of "Mr Goodnight", which should've been a B Side, or unreleased. In fact, if that was not included, and three strong songs were added, the album would really rock, in my opinion. In terms of him not playing 2 many songs from the album, he's been doing that quite a bit lately. The last time he played a large amount of songs from a current album was 'Rainbow Children'. Even the Musicology tour was mostly songs from his career, and only a few from the 'Musicology' album. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: I'm a player and I record. I have an ear. If Prince is off in any way, I can hear it
Who can argue with genius logic like that... 
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FlamingRaindrop said: Giovanni777 said: I'm a player and I record. I have an ear. If Prince is off in any way, I can hear it
Who can argue with genius logic like that... OK, so you're just going 2 repeatedly harp on me, but say nothing about the album? How about substituting your personal attacks 4 an opinion? I'm sure U have one. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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I'm not a player, I don't record, but I have 2 ears.... I thought it was pretty cool. Better than musicology, in the same league as 3121, better than a lot of whats out there but still kinda run of the mill for Prince. I get given a fair bit of shit for this opinion but i think if he really focused and pushed himself, stepped out of the box he's become very comfortable in, he could still do something quite focused and remarkable. He's definitely capable of it, but I truly doubt he has the desire to do anything but coast at this stage in his career album wise (live he's still untouchable).
Kinda woulda liked that epic multidisk planet earth i was hearing about...
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FlamingRaindrop said: I'm not a player, I don't record, but I have 2 ears.... I thought it was pretty cool. Better than musicology, in the same league as 3121, better than a lot of whats out there but still kinda run of the mill for Prince. I get given a fair bit of shit for this opinion but i think if he really focused and pushed himself, stepped out of the box he's become very comfortable in, he could still do something quite focused and remarkable. He's definitely capable of it, but I truly doubt he has the desire to do anything but coast at this stage in his career album wise (live he's still untouchable).
Kinda woulda liked that epic multidisk planet earth i was hearing about...
. [Edited 2/6/08 8:05am] Well put. U don't have 2 be a player 2 have an ear, nor 2 have an opinion. What would U have thought about it if there were a few more strong songs, and maybe no "Mr Goodnight"? (i never said it was going 2 be multidisc) ~G "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: Well I don't really hear it as being similar 2 'Musicology' or '3121', and the only thing stopping it from being truly great is it's length, and the inclusion of "Mr Goodnight", which should've been a B Side, or unreleased. In fact, if that was not included, and three strong songs were added, the album would really rock, in my opinion. In terms of him not playing 2 many songs from the album, he's been doing that quite a bit lately. The last time he played a large amount of songs from a current album was 'Rainbow Children'. Even the Musicology tour was mostly songs from his career, and only a few from the 'Musicology' album. This is my basic view: all albums Prince has written are a set-in-stone showcase of his thoughts & feelings of a given time. Therefore all of his material is worth something to him. His last three have been called some of the most mediocre material he's ever written just because he might have a different idea in mind about what music is and how he uses it to express his thoughts/feelings. Musicology was about bringing real music back, which he did. And is among some of his more sophisticated work (and makes it believeable that he's in his mid-40's). 3121 was his introduction into mainstream and at least, seemed to be trying to play to the younger audience by adding techno-beats and w/e else that they hear in radio. Which overly the reason why I downplayed this album... plus to me, it felt like it was thrown together, mix-tape and didn't really flow. And he generally writes music that makes you think... very few tracks fit that category (except The Word and The Dance most likely). Planet Earth was completely different from the other two in terms of central message. Although when thought about, the central message is a little weak. The title really does nothing for it (I'm still trying to figure out if the title track has any relevence to the album at all, it & Resolution seem 2b in the same boat). In fact, it does get going around "Somewhere here on Earth" to set the stage of "a lonely man who's looking for love" and trying to get it anyway he can. From flaunting his money at her to offering to bring alive her wildest dreams. I haven't heard Emancipation yet, but the largest chunk of this album is probably one of Prince's most romantic records since then. I'm crazy 4 Prince in more ways than one, and being one of his female fans, maybe that's why I get all  over the material here. And if this is supposedly a "personal ad" album that he disguised under a vague title like Planet Earth... he got the reaction he was looking for.
It comes up short, though and feels like there really should be more to the story, but he just leaves it hanging (with the last track ironically being called Resolution)... perhaps looking for Resolution in the world... does he come to the conclusion that the state of the world is more important than his love life? It's interesting you should say that "Mr. Goodnight" should have been a b-side. When I think about it, you might be onto something there... but if that were so, I probably wouldn't have been able to hear it (have u seen him release any b-sides lately?). I know people have hacked away at this song, but I go crazy for it. To me, it was a pleasant surprise. I surely wasn't thinking of something quite this romantic on this album. Not lyrically like SHOE, but musically, it feels like you've departed to another world... It's my personal hope that the next album will have more to the story in the same vein musically... but maybe with better lyrics, which people have been picking away at as well. As for the last 2 albums b4 this, this one brought out some musical similarities in 3121 that I wouldn't have picked up, so I like that album better since the sound is similiar... sadly making Musicology come off as too old-school for the 21st century. had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: Giovanni777 said: Well I don't really hear it as being similar 2 'Musicology' or '3121', and the only thing stopping it from being truly great is it's length, and the inclusion of "Mr Goodnight", which should've been a B Side, or unreleased. In fact, if that was not included, and three strong songs were added, the album would really rock, in my opinion. In terms of him not playing 2 many songs from the album, he's been doing that quite a bit lately. The last time he played a large amount of songs from a current album was 'Rainbow Children'. Even the Musicology tour was mostly songs from his career, and only a few from the 'Musicology' album. This is my basic view: all albums Prince has written are a set-in-stone showcase of his thoughts & feelings of a given time. Therefore all of his material is worth something to him. His last three have been called some of the most mediocre material he's ever written just because he might have a different idea in mind about what music is and how he uses it to express his thoughts/feelings. Musicology was about bringing real music back, which he did. And is among some of his more sophisticated work (and makes it believeable that he's in his mid-40's). 3121 was his introduction into mainstream and at least, seemed to be trying to play to the younger audience by adding techno-beats and w/e else that they hear in radio. Which overly the reason why I downplayed this album... plus to me, it felt like it was thrown together, mix-tape and didn't really flow. And he generally writes music that makes you think... very few tracks fit that category (except The Word and The Dance most likely). Planet Earth was completely different from the other two in terms of central message. Although when thought about, the central message is a little weak. The title really does nothing for it (I'm still trying to figure out if the title track has any relevence to the album at all, it & Resolution seem 2b in the same boat). In fact, it does get going around "Somewhere here on Earth" to set the stage of "a lonely man who's looking for love" and trying to get it anyway he can. From flaunting his money at her to offering to bring alive her wildest dreams. I haven't heard Emancipation yet, but the largest chunk of this album is probably one of Prince's most romantic records since then. I'm crazy 4 Prince in more ways than one, and being one of his female fans, maybe that's why I get all over the material here. And if this is supposedly a "personal ad" album that he disguised under a vague title like Planet Earth... he got the reaction he was looking for.
It comes up short, though and feels like there really should be more to the story, but he just leaves it hanging (with the last track ironically being called Resolution)... perhaps looking for Resolution in the world... does he come to the conclusion that the state of the world is more important than his love life? It's interesting you should say that "Mr. Goodnight" should have been a b-side. When I think about it, you might be onto something there... but if that were so, I probably wouldn't have been able to hear it (have u seen him release any b-sides lately?). I know people have hacked away at this song, but I go crazy for it. To me, it was a pleasant surprise. I surely wasn't thinking of something quite this romantic on this album. Not lyrically like SHOE, but musically, it feels like you've departed to another world... It's my personal hope that the next album will have more to the story in the same vein musically... but maybe with better lyrics, which people have been picking away at as well. As for the last 2 albums b4 this, this one brought out some musical similarities in 3121 that I wouldn't have picked up, so I like that album better since the sound is similiar... sadly making Musicology come off as too old-school for the 21st century. Thank U, "Dreamy"... As far as slow jams go, both "Somewhere Here On Earth" and "Future Baby Mama" R exquisite in every way. Peace. ~G "He's a musician's musician..." |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: Haystack said: It really does surprise me also that this album was received reasonably badly amongst a number of Prince fans.
After the over-production of a lot of the 90s material, the complaints (by some) of the jazz leanings of the Rainbow Children/ONA/NEWS era and the by some at the supposed re-treads that were Musicology and 3121 (not my opinion, but valid to some extent), I would have thought that Planet Earth would have been the ideal remedy.
It sounds loose, organic, mostly rock based and with only a couple of exceptions (Future Baby Mama and Mr Goodnight) very akin to his pre-Diamonds & Pearls 'proper Prince' sound. Plus, I think that as compositions, the songs are all very strong (although lyrically, it has its faults). One of the big problems, I think, is that albums like these should maybe have more to them. In the past, Prince's shorter albums have generally had a specific vibe and/or theme running through them and it's the longer albums that have had that mix-tape feel. With his past three albums, to differing extents, each of them has sounded more like a mix-tape than a fully conceived album. For short albums, I don't think that this format works and as a result, they come across as somehow abstract and not quite finished and I think this reflects on how they're then received by the fans and even the casual listener. The great thing is, I don't think Prince will give a flying fuck about what us lot here think of any of his albums. He'll just make the albums that he wants to make and he knows we'll all buy them whether we like them after or not. And thank God for that! Thank God 4 that... and for your post 
I really like what you said about the format of his longer and his shorter albums because I know EXACTLY where you're coming from. I've noticed that too. Around the time I got Planet Earth, I had something against his really long albums (that run about an hour or so... hence why 1999 took a while to grow on me)... and I checked b4hand and was glad to see that this album was only about 45 minutes long. But by the time I got to the end, I was thinking "it was so good, I want to hear more!" ...it wasn't so much that it seemed like there should be more to the story than that... although "Lion of Judah" suggests that there's more to his life's "love story". What I've noticed is that the shorter albums are more homogeneous and I sometimes like them more becauase they're unified in one theme. That's why at times I'd prefer Purple Rain to 1999, and Come to TGE. In the end, I did prefer this to 3121, which felt like it was all over the place (that mix-tape feel u mentioned). Although Planet Earth is a more united project in my view, how it is united is up to interpretation. Maybe there wasn't a central concept to it at all. With a title LIKE Planet Earth, it makes finding a central concept more difficult. Although one would say that its Prince placing a personal ad on disc and that's why some don't like this album much. For me, Planet Earth can be summed up in one word: Magic. The feel of the music was just unique to anything he had done previous... although similar themetically to 3121, it makes me recall little things that remind of the 80's... the back-up vocals on several accounts for instance, courtesy of Wendy & Lisa. I can't really add much else, but  great post Just so you know, Wendy and Lisa did NO backing vocals for Planet Earth. | |
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EverlastingNow said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: Thank God 4 that... and for your post
I really like what you said about the format of his longer and his shorter albums because I know EXACTLY where you're coming from. I've noticed that too. Around the time I got Planet Earth, I had something against his really long albums (that run about an hour or so... hence why 1999 took a while to grow on me)... and I checked b4hand and was glad to see that this album was only about 45 minutes long. But by the time I got to the end, I was thinking "it was so good, I want to hear more!" ...it wasn't so much that it seemed like there should be more to the story than that... although "Lion of Judah" suggests that there's more to his life's "love story". What I've noticed is that the shorter albums are more homogeneous and I sometimes like them more becauase they're unified in one theme. That's why at times I'd prefer Purple Rain to 1999, and Come to TGE. In the end, I did prefer this to 3121, which felt like it was all over the place (that mix-tape feel u mentioned). Although Planet Earth is a more united project in my view, how it is united is up to interpretation. Maybe there wasn't a central concept to it at all. With a title LIKE Planet Earth, it makes finding a central concept more difficult. Although one would say that its Prince placing a personal ad on disc and that's why some don't like this album much. For me, Planet Earth can be summed up in one word: Magic. The feel of the music was just unique to anything he had done previous... although similar themetically to 3121, it makes me recall little things that remind of the 80's... the back-up vocals on several accounts for instance, courtesy of Wendy & Lisa. I can't really add much else, but great post Just so you know, Wendy and Lisa did NO backing vocals for Planet Earth.  u copied my whole reply just to tell me that?
And I was talking about the album in general when I mentioned Wendy & Lisa... although the title track has a lot of it, the whole album is magic 2 me  had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone | |
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EverlastingNow said: DreamyPopRoyalty said: Thank God 4 that... and for your post
I really like what you said about the format of his longer and his shorter albums because I know EXACTLY where you're coming from. I've noticed that too. Around the time I got Planet Earth, I had something against his really long albums (that run about an hour or so... hence why 1999 took a while to grow on me)... and I checked b4hand and was glad to see that this album was only about 45 minutes long. But by the time I got to the end, I was thinking "it was so good, I want to hear more!" ...it wasn't so much that it seemed like there should be more to the story than that... although "Lion of Judah" suggests that there's more to his life's "love story". What I've noticed is that the shorter albums are more homogeneous and I sometimes like them more becauase they're unified in one theme. That's why at times I'd prefer Purple Rain to 1999, and Come to TGE. In the end, I did prefer this to 3121, which felt like it was all over the place (that mix-tape feel u mentioned). Although Planet Earth is a more united project in my view, how it is united is up to interpretation. Maybe there wasn't a central concept to it at all. With a title LIKE Planet Earth, it makes finding a central concept more difficult. Although one would say that its Prince placing a personal ad on disc and that's why some don't like this album much. For me, Planet Earth can be summed up in one word: Magic. The feel of the music was just unique to anything he had done previous... although similar themetically to 3121, it makes me recall little things that remind of the 80's... the back-up vocals on several accounts for instance, courtesy of Wendy & Lisa. I can't really add much else, but great post Just so you know, Wendy and Lisa did NO backing vocals for Planet Earth. That is correct. "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: Flowerz said: oh Gio..
 .. i want funky groove .. he need to bring back some 'Lady Cab Driver' bass .. tell him that please .. Hey there Girl! We all dig the Funk, but like I said, I got my little fix with "Chelsea Rodgers", especially since Prince is playing the drums and bass guitar on that cut. We'll always hear some Funk coming from Prince, whether organic, or more electronic... it's all good. But I dig his other expressions 2, and he feels very free on this album 2 me. Much Love... and don't call me "Gio"! ; ) Giovanni777:: I believe that it is apparent that you are a musician thorugh how you critique the music. That is cool, I am a visual designer, and so I do not know music as in depth as someone as yourself. Being said... what say you on this? 1. What would you say is Princes most organic music, and which most electronic. could you narrow down to one song each? 2. What album would you say is his worse engineered? I do mean quality and balance of sound. We are all so full of  here | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: EverlastingNow said: Just so you know, Wendy and Lisa did NO backing vocals for Planet Earth. u copied my whole reply just to tell me that?
And I was talking about the album in general when I mentioned Wendy & Lisa... although the title track has a lot of it, the whole album is magic 2 me You were talking in general with the comment.."the back-up vocals on several accounts for instance, courtesy of Wendy & Lisa." Just letting you know that they were not. | |
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hollywooddove said: Giovanni777 said: Hey there Girl! We all dig the Funk, but like I said, I got my little fix with "Chelsea Rodgers", especially since Prince is playing the drums and bass guitar on that cut. We'll always hear some Funk coming from Prince, whether organic, or more electronic... it's all good. But I dig his other expressions 2, and he feels very free on this album 2 me. Much Love... and don't call me "Gio"! ; ) Giovanni777:: I believe that it is apparent that you are a musician thorugh how you critique the music. That is cool, I am a visual designer, and so I do not know music as in depth as someone as yourself. Being said... what say you on this? 1. What would you say is Princes most organic music, and which most electronic. could you narrow down to one song each? 2. What album would you say is his worse engineered? I do mean quality and balance of sound. Hey. Wow. Great questions. On the first question, I'd say the most organic would have 2 include 'For You', 'Prince', 'Xpectation', 'N.E.W.S.', and 'Rainbow Children'. I can't possibly choose between those "candidates". The most electronic would nearly HAVE 2 be '1999', with "All the Critics Love U in New York" and "Something in the Water (Does Not Compute)" being great examples. The second question is much easier 2 answer... I'd have 2 say nearly everything engineered by Hans Buff, but 2 nail it down with one example, I'd have 2 say 'Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic'. There significant parts of 'Emancipation' that I thought were engineered similarly... very dry, flat, and lacking warmth. I must say that 'Rainbow Children was like the direct opposite of this. It sounds like it was recorded on 2" tape before going 2 ProTools. Warm, big, and lush, but still very clear, with good separation between each part. Peace. ~G "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Whitnail said: L4OATheOriginal said: 5 mins 2 long 2 get 2 the meat ..this shouldn't have been a lead off track of a album As I have said recently, PE is growing on me, hehehhe that sorta rhymes, but i seriously think the track sequence is absurd, PE should have been the last track and it should have kicked off with Guitar, but we are in the digital age, so we can fortunately mix these up as we wish, just like diluting the GB album by diluting u mean getting rid of the track graffiti all 2gether?  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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babynoz said: I like 6 of the songs on PE, the title track, Mr. Goodnight,(Prince calling somebody a dandy?
) SHOE, The 1 U Wanna C, Lion on Judah and Guitar. I don't much care for the other 4 so I guess it gets a 6/10 rating from me.
Overall I don't find the lyrics very compelling, especially for an album titled Planet Earth, and although the instrumentation is carefully done it isn't particularly interesting. Who goes looking for an album based on careful instrumentation? For most non musicians either a song grabs you or it doesn't. Three weeks after it dropped I went back to jamming 3121, which I love to death...every track. Ultimately that's the great thing about Prince. He's so versatile that there's something for everyone to pick and choose from. damn it took u 3 weeks 2 get back 2 3121? it took me 45 mins after hearing planet earth man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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BlackCandle said: L4OATheOriginal said: but instead I got a snooze fest  i put on 3121 right after the 1st listen
and chelsea rodgers is not funk ..it's a chic ripoff [Edited 2/5/08 11:00am] ...and 3121 didn't put you to sleep? Surely you're an insomniac... yeah it did after i danced my ass off 2 it after the 10th time ..i had no energy left so i went 2 bed.. but that album will always cheer me up cause of the funk on it  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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BlackCandle said: Y'all know where I stand on this one (if you check my prior...)
You've all slept on this and in 10 years time, you'll fall over yourselves to say you always loved it. never will happen cuzzin  i'd rather listen 2 purple rain on repeat 4 5 hours then claim this album is a masterpieceman, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Giovanni777 said: Flowerz said: hey! .. been awhile since ive seen ya.. i like Somewhere Here On Earth.. but i guess im just strung out on the older sounds ... some good ole' nitty'gritty bass .. and oh  im sorry for the nick name .. "Somewhere Here On Earth" is a true slow jam masterpiece. His piano and voice R in top form. I really thought some of the 'Parade' lovers would have seriously dug this... Also, anyone who can appreciate a perfect slow jam, which is utterly Prince. that song and guitar is the only ones i can stomach ... man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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NDRU said: I like the idea of the album, but not so much the execution.
I like that it has an easy, organic, melodic feel. The hooks feel genuine and not forced, the production feels good, and the melodies are nice even on Mr Goodnight. I like that it's generally a rock/pop album, and I like that W&L have made an appearance. But I feel it has some tracklisting flaws that keep it from holding together well. Most noticeable is Somewhere Here ON Earth, a great tune, but a wet blanket early on in what is a pretty upbeat album. In between Guitar & The 1 U... it just grinds everything to a halt. Then to pretend to have such a big and important theme as Planet Earth, and to abandon the seriousness of it immediately after track 1 seems like a cop out. Especially to return to it in such a fluffy way with Resolution. And not just the theme is abandoned, but the pop feel doesn't quite fit with the R&B tunes & SHOE. Those would have been better left as b-sides or fleshed out with a longer album as stated above by Haystack & Giovanni Why not use W&L more, esp for vox? Mr Goodnight is fine, but it doesn't hold up under repeated listens. All the Midnights is nice, but it steals part of its melody from Here Comes Santa Clause. Why did he sing half of the songs in the Peter Brady voice-crack range? I like the album as I like all of his albums, but this is no Rainbow Children! [Edited 2/5/08 17:32pm] the fact that they were involved in the 1st place doomed it from jump start  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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chillichocaholic said: L4OATheOriginal said: no chocolate bar 4 u go put back on Love from 3121 and u instantly know what planet pieceofshit is lacking Oh just and give me the Candy only if u say bloody and in the way that makes me purr  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Giovanni777 said: BartVanHemelen said: No, it isn't. It's mediocre at best, and virtually interchangeable with 3121 or Musicology. Honey, if you like it, fine. But at least be man enough to admit it isn't great, or even that good. Even Prince knows it isn't, that's why he barely promoted it, that's why he barely played anything from it in concert, that's why he already moved on. Prince gave away MILLIONS of copies and it just did NOTHING. If this album really contained worthwhile music, people would still be hyping it. . [Edited 2/6/08 7:28am] Hey Bart. Well I don't really hear it as being similar 2 'Musicology' or '3121', and the only thing stopping it from being truly great is it's length, and the inclusion of "Mr Goodnight", which should've been a B Side, or unreleased. In fact, if that was not included, and three strong songs were added, the album would really rock, in my opinion. In terms of him not playing 2 many songs from the album, he's been doing that quite a bit lately. The last time he played a large amount of songs from a current album was 'Rainbow Children'. Even the Musicology tour was mostly songs from his career, and only a few from the 'Musicology' album. actually even TRC songs didn't get much play..with it being only 5 tracks played live and even less when it got 2 europe. so the trend has been happening since emancipation and that truly sucks balls man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: NDRU said: I like the idea of the album, but not so much the execution.
I like that it has an easy, organic, melodic feel. The hooks feel genuine and not forced, the production feels good, and the melodies are nice even on Mr Goodnight. I like that it's generally a rock/pop album, and I like that W&L have made an appearance. But I feel it has some tracklisting flaws that keep it from holding together well. Most noticeable is Somewhere Here ON Earth, a great tune, but a wet blanket early on in what is a pretty upbeat album. In between Guitar & The 1 U... it just grinds everything to a halt. Then to pretend to have such a big and important theme as Planet Earth, and to abandon the seriousness of it immediately after track 1 seems like a cop out. Especially to return to it in such a fluffy way with Resolution. And not just the theme is abandoned, but the pop feel doesn't quite fit with the R&B tunes & SHOE. Those would have been better left as b-sides or fleshed out with a longer album as stated above by Haystack & Giovanni Why not use W&L more, esp for vox? Mr Goodnight is fine, but it doesn't hold up under repeated listens. All the Midnights is nice, but it steals part of its melody from Here Comes Santa Clause. Why did he sing half of the songs in the Peter Brady voice-crack range? I like the album as I like all of his albums, but this is no Rainbow Children! [Edited 2/5/08 17:32pm] the fact that they were involved in the 1st place doomed it from jump start A valid point, but why does he have these high profile guests (W&L are high profile in Prince's world, right?) and have them be completely inaudible on the cd? My Legacy
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