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Reply #30 posted 02/04/08 8:51am

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nod i love P because he does all types of music and i would be dissapointed if he did release an album which focused on 1 genre wink


That's more or less a tricky situation. It all depends on the general I suppose. I wouldn't mind if he did focus on one genre, but I can't get over the way people are saying what Prince should do to keep their interest and seem to feel like he still owes them another SOTT or Purple Rain (an album that made a major impact and put much of his catalog 2 shame) after the likes of the last three albums... for which the record, I love all of them, especially Planet Earth, which seems 2b taking most of the heat.

I was thinking the other day: it would be nice if Prince saved The Dance & Somewhere here on Earth for a different project with the same type of music that steers AWAY from guitar and focuses on music that could have been popular in the 40's and 50's, like what you see in those really old movies. The two are signifianct gems that are talked about a lot and mostly for being "too good" for the other material they're supposedly "thrown together" with.
I could even wait around for the next album and see if he could do another piano-based ballad that I could burn onto my own little mix.

But in the end, it's not quite the same as him putting out an album since those songs are subjectively on opposite poles.
I was suggesting that because it might be an interesting direction for him to go in. At the same time, though, I'm not going to go cavaliar and say I'd turn my back on him if he didn't do things the way I wanted him.

The music is ultimately him expressing himself the only way he knows how and just as we go through different moods on a 24-hour clock, Prince is the same way and you can't get out different moods in one genre. And like L4OA said, Prince is about funk, not rock. Rock will always be a part of him since he puts his guitar into the album in at least one song where its the main attraction... but funk is where his roots lie.

Being the complex being he is, Prince probably doesn't have the capability of even sticking to one genre without fudging the boundaries just a little bit. Just look at his more homogeneous albums for more proof. Musicology & Come are more or less one genre within the album, but he slips different ones [like with Musicology, he goes from funk to rock to jazz, etc.] into them because that's just who he is.
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Reply #31 posted 02/04/08 11:31am

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Prince is more than capable of laying down a rock album, that would knock us off our stools, the most widely spoken about aftershow in yrs was exactly that, P even threw sample of that show on his JOTW feature at 3121.

One thing I could imagine P doing is a mutiple disc album, with each disc focused on a particular gerne that P has mastered. But, I cant see him ever doing that, to P that would be utter boredom. ATWIAD after PR is a testement to that cool

But that is why we dig him wink
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Reply #32 posted 02/04/08 5:49pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

FlamingRaindrop said:

Paris9748430 said:
[i]If he was to put out a strictly rock album, the fans of his funk/R&B songs will be upset. Hell, Prince still hasn't gotten some of his Black fans back after putting out those albums in the Mid-80's

If they can't handle just one album without funk/R&B then fuck 'em, plain and simple. They'll get their funk/R&B fix with his following album (while waiting they have 30-40 prince albums they can chuck on to hear it...)

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we already suffered through that..it was called planet earth nod

and that's what happend the last cry went up 4 a rock album ..so suffice it 2 say ..either take chaos and disorder as ur rock album and deal with it or switch over 2 metallica and get ur rock fix there. how would it seem if on a metallica forum someone says "hey i want metallica 2 do a funk album!"


how in the name of Jaysus did i miss this one

28th, dont forget cool
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Reply #33 posted 02/04/08 5:52pm

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Whitnail said:

Aftershow 29th(AM) of August 2007 wink


Yep. Release it. Job done. biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 02/04/08 5:57pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Whitnail said:

Aftershow 29th(AM) of August 2007 wink


Yep. Release it. Job done. biggrin


I am listening to it right now lurking

hey squirrel, great to see you back cool
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Reply #35 posted 02/04/08 6:04pm

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Whitnail said:

SquirrelMeat said:



Yep. Release it. Job done. biggrin


I am listening to it right now lurking

hey squirrel, great to see you back cool


I've been off having a "Prince break"! It helps me love the stuff even more when I slap it back on!
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Reply #36 posted 02/04/08 6:12pm

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28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!
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Reply #37 posted 02/04/08 6:14pm

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Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!


Na! Good, but never as good as the version on the opening night of the London ONA shows!
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Reply #38 posted 02/04/08 6:16pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!


Na! Good, but never as good as the version on the opening night of the London ONA shows!


looks like i have to do a search,

Let the hunt begin wink
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Reply #39 posted 02/04/08 6:21pm

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now THIS would be worth my $10!! I would LOVE to see such an album!
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Reply #40 posted 02/04/08 6:25pm

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now THIS would be worth my $10!! I would LOVE to see such an album!

hearing it would be better, trust me wink
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Reply #41 posted 02/04/08 7:24pm

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Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!

what else was on the '28th' ?
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Reply #42 posted 02/04/08 7:29pm

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FlamingRaindrop said:

Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!

what else was on the '28th' ?


Thank you for talkin' to me Africa
Anotherloverholeinyohead
All Shook Up
Calhoun Square
I Like It There
Chaos and Disorder
Empty Room
Sexuality (renamed Spirituality)
Johnny B Good
Elephants and Flowers
When Will We B Paid
Alphabet Street
Baby Love
Guitar

compliments from HQ

BTW another great show was 1st of september wink
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Reply #43 posted 02/04/08 7:38pm

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Whitnail said:

FlamingRaindrop said:


what else was on the '28th' ?


Thank you for talkin' to me Africa
Anotherloverholeinyohead
All Shook Up
Calhoun Square
I Like It There
Chaos and Disorder
Empty Room
Sexuality (renamed Spirituality)
Johnny B Good
Elephants and Flowers
When Will We B Paid
Alphabet Street
Baby Love
Guitar

compliments from HQ

BTW another great show was 1st of september wink

That's not as cheesy as it should be. I'm running the lyrics through my head and it actually makes sense for the most part...wierd eek
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Reply #44 posted 02/05/08 12:31am

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Whitnail said:

FlamingRaindrop said:


what else was on the '28th' ?


Thank you for talkin' to me Africa
Anotherloverholeinyohead
All Shook Up
Calhoun Square
I Like It There
Chaos and Disorder
Empty Room
Sexuality (renamed Spirituality)
Johnny B Good
Elephants and Flowers
When Will We B Paid
Alphabet Street
Baby Love
Guitar

compliments from HQ

BTW another great show was 1st of september wink

Awesome, sounds like it'd be a great show to hear, very guitar heavy...
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Reply #45 posted 02/05/08 3:36am

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Never, because it'd be too well received.
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Reply #46 posted 02/05/08 3:45am

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a wise person once said my signature.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #47 posted 02/05/08 3:58am

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a wise person once said my signature.


Exactly. Casual listeners are rarely mesmerized by bland R&B he's put out lately like Future Baby Mama & the like. They notice Prince & his talent when he shreds through on guitar like he did at the Super Bowl last year or on Fury when he performed on SNL. If he wants his music to be heard by more people, he should make it interesting to listen to.
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Reply #48 posted 02/05/08 6:48am

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viewaskew said:

Never, because it'd be too well received.


Wonders will never cease, I actually agree with you on that one wink
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Reply #49 posted 02/05/08 7:50am

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Whitnail said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



we already suffered through that..it was called planet earth nod

and that's what happend the last cry went up 4 a rock album ..so suffice it 2 say ..either take chaos and disorder as ur rock album and deal with it or switch over 2 metallica and get ur rock fix there. how would it seem if on a metallica forum someone says "hey i want metallica 2 do a funk album!"


how in the name of Jaysus did i miss this one

28th, dont forget cool



i don't have that one yet but i'm in the process of getting it. i don't mind prince on guitar at all. but 2 have that on every track would get boring and the longing 4 a funk jam 2 come on.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #50 posted 02/05/08 7:51am

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Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!


c now u setting me up 4 a big let down cause 4 me the best ever was done at paisley during the celebration in 2002
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #51 posted 02/05/08 7:54am

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muirdo said:

a wise person once said my signature.


and a wise person said it earlier in this thread, that focusing on one genre is not prince's style and would divide his fan base even more. prince is 1st and 4most a funk artist.
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #52 posted 02/05/08 8:10am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Whitnail said:

28th, probably the best version of Empty Room, EVER!!!!!


c now u setting me up 4 a big let down cause 4 me the best ever was done at paisley during the celebration in 2002


Is that the version where he has the story about finding the hair of his ex in the bathroom?
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Reply #53 posted 02/05/08 8:58am

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tricky99 said:

Haystack said:

A Prince album where he only focuses on one genre. . .

God no! shake

Even his supposed 'jazz' albums, 'pop' albums and 'rock' albums have always had a splash of other genres to spice things up.

Prince's legacy has been built by his wonderfully eclectic style. He should never sacrifice that, even if it's only for one album.

If you want an album of only one genre, then make your own one up from his back catalogue.


Exactly. The way music is going albums have become less and less important. more people seem interested individual songs than whole works. In this digital age any of us can create the Prince album of our dreams from all the released, unreleased, and live bootleg songs. People need to except Prince has he is (or move on). As Prince said in "LOVE"

Stop telling me what U want me 2 hear
Stop telling me what U want me 2 fear
Stop tripping on somethin' U overheard
Love is winning without a word
Stop giving me your wish list
Love is free from all this


If we get an all Rock album fine but all this demanding that Prince fulfill
your musical dreams is silly.



I keep forgetting Prince told us this boxed Ok Prince.....CO s m ic dd aa y . 8cough* ....loove and....*cough* SeX *ACHOO* i wannit...
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Reply #54 posted 02/05/08 9:05am

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I think the problem is its not up to us 2 decide what he relases and what hes not 2(and never will thank god) i geniunley love all Princes albums(well the 27 i own and hav heard) its up 2 the artist what he wants 2 release and u always get people saying about great musicians that hav bin around 4 a long"well its now where near as good as there old stuff' i enjoy all of Princes music i even loved Planet Earth,I think the problem with People is they dont like 2 see there fav artists evolve or change musicaly.I know his music has changed since he went into a J.W with lyrics less Dirty etc yadda yadda and 2 be honest i dont think many musicians(even P) can make new sounds or do something new,simply beacause theres so much out there now it seems to be getting harder,also new artists and music 2day(well mostly) is as about as intresting to me as yesterdays shit! Im sure that P could do another album thats Rock orientated like Purple Rain but we forget hes bin there and got the t-shirt.Lastly if all them legends that hav bin around 25 yrs + and P are happy doing the music THEY want to do then frankly so am I biggrin .because they hav worked hard for many years and they deserve 2 do what they want 2 do,not what WE want them to do nod also even if the next was a great album 90% of fans would still moan cause its in are nature to find flaws.especially for an artist who is prolific and bin around as long as P - thank you - peace cool
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Reply #55 posted 02/05/08 9:28am

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optimus said:

I think the problem is its not up to us 2 decide what he relases and what hes not 2(and never will thank god) i geniunley love all Princes albums(well the 27 i own and hav heard) its up 2 the artist what he wants 2 release and u always get people saying about great musicians that hav bin around 4 a long"well its now where near as good as there old stuff' i enjoy all of Princes music i even loved Planet Earth,I think the problem with People is they dont like 2 see there fav artists evolve or change musicaly.I know his music has changed since he went into a J.W with lyrics less Dirty etc yadda yadda and 2 be honest i dont think many musicians(even P) can make new sounds or do something new,simply beacause theres so much out there now it seems to be getting harder,also new artists and music 2day(well mostly) is as about as intresting to me as yesterdays shit! Im sure that P could do another album thats Rock orientated like Purple Rain but we forget hes bin there and got the t-shirt.Lastly if all them legends that hav bin around 25 yrs + and P are happy doing the music THEY want to do then frankly so am I biggrin .because they hav worked hard for many years and they deserve 2 do what they want 2 do,not what WE want them to do nod also even if the next was a great album 90% of fans would still moan cause its in are nature to find flaws.especially for an artist who is prolific and bin around as long as P - thank you - peace cool
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back in the day when SOTT was released, one of the best reviews described it as "flawed and slightly unfocused", Q magazine, while going on to say it was basically the best album of all time wink
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Reply #56 posted 02/05/08 9:36am

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Whitnail said:

optimus said:

I think the problem is its not up to us 2 decide what he relases and what hes not 2(and never will thank god) i geniunley love all Princes albums(well the 27 i own and hav heard) its up 2 the artist what he wants 2 release and u always get people saying about great musicians that hav bin around 4 a long"well its now where near as good as there old stuff' i enjoy all of Princes music i even loved Planet Earth,I think the problem with People is they dont like 2 see there fav artists evolve or change musicaly.I know his music has changed since he went into a J.W with lyrics less Dirty etc yadda yadda and 2 be honest i dont think many musicians(even P) can make new sounds or do something new,simply beacause theres so much out there now it seems to be getting harder,also new artists and music 2day(well mostly) is as about as intresting to me as yesterdays shit! Im sure that P could do another album thats Rock orientated like Purple Rain but we forget hes bin there and got the t-shirt.Lastly if all them legends that hav bin around 25 yrs + and P are happy doing the music THEY want to do then frankly so am I biggrin .because they hav worked hard for many years and they deserve 2 do what they want 2 do,not what WE want them to do nod also even if the next was a great album 90% of fans would still moan cause its in are nature to find flaws.especially for an artist who is prolific and bin around as long as P - thank you - peace cool
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back in the day when SOTT was released, one of the best reviews described it as "flawed and slightly unfocused", Q magazine, while going on to say it was basically the best album of all time wink


yes but all great work has flaws dont u think? its just people make out as if his later efforts hav 2 many lol all people do on here is moan about how crap this is or we want an album like this,luckly 4 me tho ive bin a fan 4 only 2 years,so maybe thats y im not as criticall cuz i didnt grow up in the Purple Rain years and cuz i wasnt around when his older stuff was out maybe thats y i dont compare it to his later stuff.altho his older stuff is better i still dont hav anyhing bad 2 say about his new stuff apart from a few songs maybe,but im just a fan not the musician/singer/song-writer genius like P is so i hope he just carrys on doing his own thing biggrin
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optimus said:

Whitnail said:




back in the day when SOTT was released, one of the best reviews described it as "flawed and slightly unfocused", Q magazine, while going on to say it was basically the best album of all time wink


yes but all great work has flaws dont u think? its just people make out as if his later efforts hav 2 many lol all people do on here is moan about how crap this is or we want an album like this,luckly 4 me tho ive bin a fan 4 only 2 years,so maybe thats y im not as criticall cuz i didnt grow up in the Purple Rain years and cuz i wasnt around when his older stuff was out maybe thats y i dont compare it to his later stuff.altho his older stuff is better i still dont hav anyhing bad 2 say about his new stuff apart from a few songs maybe,but im just a fan not the musician/singer/song-writer like P is so let him play biggrin
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Then comes the 80´s fanatic, in their purple bib and start belting out their sermons from the highchair, like someone deranged, who spent the last 20 yrs in the captivity of the luggage compartment of the Purple Rain tour bus.



There is alot of truth in that, I personally enjoy the views of the new fans, for the simple reason is that they appreciate P´s music from a totally different angle and sometimes bring up things that older fans have missed out on cool
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Reply #58 posted 02/05/08 9:53am

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There is alot of truth in that, I personally enjoy the views of the new fans, for the simple reason is that they appreciate P´s music from a totally different angle and sometimes bring up things that older fans have missed out on cool


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Whitnail said:

L4OATheOriginal said:



c now u setting me up 4 a big let down cause 4 me the best ever was done at paisley during the celebration in 2002


Is that the version where he has the story about finding the hair of his ex in the bathroom?


nod and just the shared xpression on everyone's face when he started singing the 1st line eek then pure pandemonium excited

he got a standing O that night 4 just doing that song
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