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PrintableImago said: syble said: i dont know so much anymore. lets face it you gotta be workin to go to concerts or get your folks to pay.drive you.go with - so uncool etc etc i was surprised by the young people i met at the 02 and how many were students from the org. admittedly i didnt meat any younger than that - but you dont exactly go up to a kid and say hey just been to the prince concert or just out for pizza with your parents? or just dragged here to the concert by your parents? unless you want to get arrested lol i recently went to the madness concert in dec at the 02 and there are always loads of kids at those dancing away and enjoying it with their families. and they dont exactly hold back on the language either, madness that is. all i meant by this thread is that princes fan base is very diverse probably more so than any other artist, a friend of mine recently told me how her father loves prince. after i emailled her the link to 3121.com to see the live stuff when it all finished that they posted on there. she said oh thanks so much my dad will love this and shes early 40's!! Freudian slip ? bold meat edit [Edited 1/4/08 7:43am] 
oooh imago and there i was thinking youd gone all serious on us for a second ! wot someone actually read thru the whole monologue?? and yes you can be a fan as a newbie we all gotta start somewhere dont we? its easy with longevity to say we were there back in the day, well some of these youngest are here now cos we were there back in the day lol prince has a lot to answer for methinks  [Edited 1/4/08 7:49am] walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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syble said: DANGEROUSx said: I'm guessing this is pointed at me?  not in a mean way, just a pointer on safeguards in this ole big bad ugly world never divulge personal info as nothing is as it seems on the net. cool name DANGEROUSx Although it is a sad state of affairs and somehow defeats the purpose of the thread, I have to say I agree with Syble on this. However, just enjoy the banter and keep your wits about you, and it will be alright If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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wlcm2thdwn said: What do these young people 'love' about Prince? They should have been around back in the 80's, now THAT was a HOT Prince.
what are they old enough to do?[Edited 1/4/08 7:28am]
I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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Whitnail said: syble said: not in a mean way, just a pointer on safeguards in this ole big bad ugly world never divulge personal info as nothing is as it seems on the net. cool name DANGEROUSx Although it is a sad state of affairs and somehow defeats the purpose of the thread, I have to say I agree with Syble on this. However, just enjoy the banter and keep your wits about you, and it will be alright  | |
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Whitnail said:[quote] wlcm2thdwn said: What do these young people 'love' about Prince? They should have been around back in the 80's, now THAT was a HOT Prince.
what are they old enough to do?[Edited 1/4/08 7:28am]
I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. [/quote)
i was 17 and there wasnt anything else for me at that time, i couldnt quite buy into the whole uk soul thing, although i liked it, there just wasnt anything that spoke to me like prince. id experiemented with punk, new romantics and all that tripe while i was growing up but none of it really jelled apart from adam ant when i was 12 but then i think that was just the pirate costumes i liked!!! lol still - along came prince and nothin changed really - stil liking his wild costumes!!!  walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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syble said:[quote] Whitnail said: wlcm2thdwn said: What do these young people 'love' about Prince? They should have been around back in the 80's, now THAT was a HOT Prince.
what are they old enough to do?[Edited 1/4/08 7:28am]
I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. [/quote)
i was 17 and there wasnt anything else for me at that time, i couldnt quite buy into the whole uk soul thing, although i liked it, there just wasnt anything that spoke to me like prince. id experiemented with punk, new romantics and all that tripe while i was growing up but none of it really jelled apart from adam ant when i was 12 but then i think that was just the pirate costumes i liked!!! lol still - along came prince and nothin changed really - stil liking his wild costumes!!! i was in my teens when prince came on the scene & i enjoyed everything in the charts, however i also remember being bopping away 2 motown & 'the who'. they weren't exactly hip at the time & an old crowd at tht - hell some were even dead! suppose it's healthy 2 encourage the classics. i just asked my 13 yr daughter what she likes about prince, & she just said 'his music's catchy' good songs will always appeal.  [Edited 1/4/08 8:29am] | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: syble said: I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. [/quote)
i was 17 and there wasnt anything else for me at that time, i couldnt quite buy into the whole uk soul thing, although i liked it, there just wasnt anything that spoke to me like prince. id experiemented with punk, new romantics and all that tripe while i was growing up but none of it really jelled apart from adam ant when i was 12 but then i think that was just the pirate costumes i liked!!! lol still - along came prince and nothin changed really - stil liking his wild costumes!!! i was in my teens when prince came on the scene & i enjoyed everything in the charts, however i also remember being bopping away 2 motown & 'the who'. they weren't exactly hip at the time & an old crowd at tht - hell some were even dead! suppose it's healthy 2 encourage the classics. i just asked my 13 yr daughter what she likes about prince, & she just said 'his music's catchy' good songs will always appeal.
[Edited 1/4/08 8:29am] my middle kid loves the guitar playin and their fave is go crazy, they love the guitar ending and i have to say naturally do 'airguitar; yep ive aired it - so to speak- ive finally admitted that someone in my family does air guitar!!!! when iwas a teen i though ony metal heads did that never did i ever dream id get soooo excited about prince guitar playing. that last nite at indigo2 just shoooook your bones and you could FEEEEL that guitar!!! i guess you live and learn about real music, so all i can say is WELCOME all you newbies and youngsters - welcome to the dawn, your future awaits you, it is here and now and has already been waiting for you - you know you wanna come!! walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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Of course he realises he has a young fan base also. That's why he makes rediculous sellout songs like "Incense and Candles" and "Mr. Goodnight". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Of course he realises he has a young fan base also. That's why he makes rediculous sellout songs like "Incense and Candles" and "Mr. Goodnight".
I still think his fan base for young people is about 10 percent or less. A better question would be, "Does Prince know how many gay fans he has?". I would place that percentile at least in the 40 percent range. | |
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I'm sure Prince is aware he has a new lot of young fans but some of the young kids prolly think Michael Jackson is a girl, my cousin seen a picture of Michael Jackson and thought he was a girl. Prince can sing like a girl but IMO most people know he is a guy. | |
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Imago said: vainandy said: Of course he realises he has a young fan base also. That's why he makes rediculous sellout songs like "Incense and Candles" and "Mr. Goodnight".
I still think his fan base for young people is about 10 percent or less. A better question would be, "Does Prince know how many gay fans he has?". I would place that percentile at least in the 40 percent range. I definately noticed there were more gays at the o2 shows than there were teenagers! Life's a Parade! LoveLife, LoveSexy! | |
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mentalist said: Imago said: I still think his fan base for young people is about 10 percent or less. A better question would be, "Does Prince know how many gay fans he has?". I would place that percentile at least in the 40 percent range. I definately noticed there were more gays at the o2 shows than there were teenagers! Yup. Instead of Incense and Candles, Prince should relesae a remake of something gays would like. Ignoring them is stupid as they've built his career up far beyond anything Bette Middler could have dreamed for. | |
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mentalist said: Imago said: I still think his fan base for young people is about 10 percent or less. A better question would be, "Does Prince know how many gay fans he has?". I would place that percentile at least in the 40 percent range. I definately noticed there were more gays at the o2 shows than there were teenagers!  lovely! come 2 think of it, i think the guys might have outnumbered the girls...  | |
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syble said:[quote] Whitnail said: wlcm2thdwn said: What do these young people 'love' about Prince? They should have been around back in the 80's, now THAT was a HOT Prince.
what are they old enough to do?[Edited 1/4/08 7:28am]
I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. [/quote)
i was 17 and there wasnt anything else for me at that time, i couldnt quite buy into the whole uk soul thing, although i liked it, there just wasnt anything that spoke to me like prince. id experiemented with punk, new romantics and all that tripe while i was growing up but none of it really jelled apart from adam ant when i was 12 but then i think that was just the pirate costumes i liked!!! lol still - along came prince and nothin changed really - stil liking his wild costumes!!! I was young when i started liking him too, but that was in 1983 when he was, You know 'WOW'and my age, but i'm not getting what these teenage girls are saying when they say 'I'm in love with Prince' he's almost old enough to be their father's father. I still say to apperciate Prince fully, you've got to see him in concert which I'm sure not a lot of 15 year olds have done. and his concerts today are not nearly as exciting as they were. I know I'm old fashioned. | |
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Imago said: mentalist said: I definately noticed there were more gays at the o2 shows than there were teenagers! Yup. Instead of Incense and Candles, Prince should relesae a remake of something gays would like. Ignoring them is stupid as they've built his career up far beyond anything Bette Middler could have dreamed for. I thought Insence and Candles WAS Prince's gay effort!!! Maybe he should be more obvious and make a song called "K.Y and Poppers!" Life's a Parade! LoveLife, LoveSexy! | |
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What has Prince done specifally for the younger fans today? He never treated people like this back in the day, it's really kind of sad, he use to be so free-spirited and loose now like Imago said he's just cranky and uptight!
Omigod, there I go agreeing with Imago again! [Edited 1/4/08 8:53am] | |
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mentalist said: Imago said: Yup. Instead of Incense and Candles, Prince should relesae a remake of something gays would like. Ignoring them is stupid as they've built his career up far beyond anything Bette Middler could have dreamed for. I thought Insence and Candles WAS Prince's gay effort!!! Maybe he should be more obvious and make a song called "K.Y and Poppers!"
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I think alot of teenage girls nowadays see him as someone who can teach them how to apply their make-up correctly and walk well in high heels!!!!! Life's a Parade! LoveLife, LoveSexy! | |
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mentalist said: I think alot of teenage girls nowadays see him as someone who can teach them how to apply their make-up correctly and walk well in high heels!!!!!
 If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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wlcm2thdwn said: Yes he does. He discussed this in an interview a while back with Ebony magazine and he said on the Jay Leno show that his concerts will be family friendly. but I don't understand these kids in their early teens digging Prince, I mean what did they do see him on American idol and just start liking him?
I'm not sure about the other teens, but...I'm the reason my cousin sorta likes Prince. He's 14. He heard me listening to Glam Slam a few times and got hooked without noticing it. Despite what he thinks of the man's appearance, he digs his sound to a certain degree. I highly doubt that these teens just like him for the American Idol thing, though. It's word of mouth. It's youtube. It's the kids who aren't interested in the usual musical garbage that listen to him. Curiosity is a virus to a teenager. | |
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Whitnail said: I was actually amazed at the amount of teens at the concerts in London, whether they actually got what was going on is another matter. I saw mixed reactions, some clearly loved it, and others were bored out of their minds. I have a feeling the 21 nights at the O2 became abit of "in" thing to go to during the summer, for some people.
I guess another side of Prince that appeals to young people, is his willingness to be a rebel, every decade has seen him go against the norms one way or another. he has never lost his ability to shock people, even his very own hardcore fans. very true cause this hardcore fan was bored out of my mind when hearing that setlist in london and when hearing that sampler set  man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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Imago said: wlcm2thdwn said: What do these young people 'love' about Prince? They should have been around back in the 80's, now THAT ws a HOT Prince.
I wonder that too.
You and I , honey--we totally think alike. It's like we're twins or something. Anyways, seeing the Prince of the 80's would have blown these kid's minds. Seeing him now is like showing up to a cranky old Professor who likes to preach to you about what you're doing wrong in your life, albeit a funky one. the same can b said 4 those of us that didn't get 2 c james brown in his prime. i'm always envious of my mom who got 2 c james in the 60's and 70's then the james brown of the late 90's up 2 his death. b4 the internet became such a worldwide phenom, it was such a blast 2 run 2 the music store and grab that 12" remix and flip it over 2 c what b side name was given ..it's not the same 4 these young people 2day tho man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: syble said: I am not sure I understand what you mean, I was 13 when I got into Prince. Not that witnessing Prince and Madonna in the 80´s at that age is abit different to the current crop of talentless morons that are being marketed at the teenegers today. [/quote)
i was 17 and there wasnt anything else for me at that time, i couldnt quite buy into the whole uk soul thing, although i liked it, there just wasnt anything that spoke to me like prince. id experiemented with punk, new romantics and all that tripe while i was growing up but none of it really jelled apart from adam ant when i was 12 but then i think that was just the pirate costumes i liked!!! lol still - along came prince and nothin changed really - stil liking his wild costumes!!! I was young when i started liking him too, but that was in 1983 when he was, You know 'WOW'and my age, but i'm not getting what these teenage girls are saying when they say 'I'm in love with Prince' he's almost old enough to be their father's father. I still say to apperciate Prince fully, you've got to see him in concert which I'm sure not a lot of 15 year olds have done. and his concerts today are not nearly as exciting as they were. I know I'm old fashioned. what - you never had secret hankerings for guys like sean connery? lol i always liked the older guys funny how i got myself a hubbie the same age but then we do all grow up eventually. i always thought those older guys were so mature and knowledgable maybe thats what the teens in the org feel like - i can still remember being 13!!! walk with crooked shoes www.myspace/syblepurplelishous | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: Yes he does. He discuseed this in an interview a while back with Ebony magazine and he said on the Jay Leno show that his concerts will be family friendly. but I don't understand these kids in their early teens digging Prince, I mean what did they do see him on American idol and just start liking him?
I stole my mother's Musicology CD since she only listened to it once (in '04), when I was fourteen and didn't really have anything new to listen to. I liked it, so I went on the internet and found out as much as I could about him, and started asking for his music. It turns out now, that I know more about Prince than my parents do. | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: Well that concert was so Cheap, anybody could have gotten in almost. I don't know if I'd call these kids "Fans". Just because you see somebody on TV a couplel of times and look at these old 20 year old pictures of him we post doesn't make you a fan, I lthink LOYALTY makes you a fan and that comes over the years with some hard knocks to go along with it. These kids have so much Attention deficit disorder that they can't even stay on topic in a forum, they're certainly not gonna stick around and take Prince's crap, like we 'true funk soldiers' have thru the years!
 It was affordable, very much appreciated even by the older fans I think with families and bills to pay!! I don't think you can claim to only be a fan if you've been there for the long haul, if some youngsters have recently 'discovered' him I think that's great for everyone! | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: mentalist said: I definately noticed there were more gays at the o2 shows than there were teenagers! lovely! come 2 think of it, i think the guys might have outnumbered the girls... Yup! I think he was desperately searching the crowd for girls when he was doing the ballads | |
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Jeffiner said: wlcm2thdwn said: Well that concert was so Cheap, anybody could have gotten in almost. I don't know if I'd call these kids "Fans". Just because you see somebody on TV a couplel of times and look at these old 20 year old pictures of him we post doesn't make you a fan, I lthink LOYALTY makes you a fan and that comes over the years with some hard knocks to go along with it. These kids have so much Attention deficit disorder that they can't even stay on topic in a forum, they're certainly not gonna stick around and take Prince's crap, like we 'true funk soldiers' have thru the years!
It was affordable, very much appreciated even by the older fans I think with families and bills to pay!! I don't think you can claim to only be a fan if you've been there for the long haul, if some youngsters have recently 'discovered' him I think that's great for everyone! for whatever reasons "wlcm2thdwn" always had a gripe about the 21 nights in london thing, I will always remember it starting, the morning after the last aftershow, but i guess that is how it goes If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
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Jeffiner said: wlcm2thdwn said: Well that concert was so Cheap, anybody could have gotten in almost. I don't know if I'd call these kids "Fans". Just because you see somebody on TV a couplel of times and look at these old 20 year old pictures of him we post doesn't make you a fan, I lthink LOYALTY makes you a fan and that comes over the years with some hard knocks to go along with it. These kids have so much Attention deficit disorder that they can't even stay on topic in a forum, they're certainly not gonna stick around and take Prince's crap, like we 'true funk soldiers' have thru the years!
It was affordable, very much appreciated even by the older fans I think with families and bills to pay!! I don't think you can claim to only be a fan if you've been there for the long haul, if some youngsters have recently 'discovered' him I think that's great for everyone! Been a fan since 8/9 years old I'm 16....I just wanted get that out there. And I don't have ADD. | |
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Whitnail said: Jeffiner said: It was affordable, very much appreciated even by the older fans I think with families and bills to pay!! I don't think you can claim to only be a fan if you've been there for the long haul, if some youngsters have recently 'discovered' him I think that's great for everyone! for whatever reasons "wlcm2thdwn" always had a gripe about the 21 nights in london thing, I will always remember it starting, the morning after the last aftershow, but i guess that is how it goes And we KNOW why.... we were there   | |
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I don't see why a 14-16yr old girl wouldn't be into to P.
He's roughly the same size as your average teen girl. His pants are tighter and he has the same interests, music, makeup, clothes, and discreet sex with men. | |
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