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Reply #30 posted 01/08/08 2:12pm

gemini13

CarrieLee said:

One4All4Ever said:



haters disbelief



I'm not a hater, I said he makes great music. But his latest actions are shitty. Sorry, I call it like I see it...and fortunately I see without purple colored glasses. shrug



I agree. What if Hitler or Dahmer made extraordinary music? Would it be ok to ignore their personality flaws? confused
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Reply #31 posted 01/08/08 2:17pm

mzflash

bellanoche said:


As a fan, I am sickened by the continuous Prince bashing that transpires on this so-called fan site. Prince is a human being who has flaws like ALL OF US. If you are taking accounts from FORMER girlfriends, employees, etc. you have to take them with a grain of salt. Also, you have to take into consideration when comments were made. Were they made when feelings were raw, before time brought clarity?

I think it is ridiculous to say that Prince is a HORRIBLE person. One can look at all the charitable things that he has done over the years for countless people and see that he is not a HORRIBLE person.

He has given so much money to charities as well as performed benefit concerts, held food drives, set aside tickets for kids at concerts, etc. He has done this for decades.

He has given many musicians opportunities, which have been the catalyst for them to have long, successful careers. Some of them might have had careers as musicians, but not of the magnitude that they had/have after the exposure Prince gave them - people like Wendy, Lisa, Candy Dulfer, Morris Day, even Sheila E. as talented as she is, Prince made her a superstar.

He's launched or helped expand the careers of many people, many ex-girlfriends like Vanity, Carmen Electra, Mayte, etc. They would never have had the fame/careers that they had/have without their relationship to Prince.

He's kept several former band members on his payroll long after they left the band. He's also given former associates songs that turned out to be the biggest hits of their careers.

He's breathed life into the careers of many veteran musicians by giving them opportunities to record at PP, writing music for them and having them tour with him.

He's given more to his fans than many other artists of his caliber - the celebrations, three decades of AMAZING concerts and performances, three decades of quality music, affordable concert tickets, the NPG music club concert perks (pre-sales, preferred seating, early entrance, after shows). Yet many of these so-called fans complain and/or criticize at the drop of the dime.

There are also the spontaneous acts of kindness that he has shown throughout the years that are too many to mention, but I think of recent things like buying Cora a custom drum set after he met her, before she even joined his band.

I also know people who have worked with him who have told me good stories about their experiences working with him. I also know some who have had good and bad experiences. He's a perfectionist, which makes him a demanding boss and some people just can't hang with that. One thing is true though, he never asks for more than he gives.

At the end of the day, as I said, he is a human being. He is not perfect - no one is. He's made mistakes. However, I think it is extremely unfair to call him a HORRIBLE person. Is he a saint, no. Are you?
Oh, good points mentalist and ritaw!


rose rose Well said bellanoche clapping Thank U!!!
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Reply #32 posted 01/08/08 2:24pm

lottielooloo19
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fcukthepolice said:

bellanoche said:



As a fan, I am sickened by the continuous Prince bashing that transpires on this so-called fan site. Prince is a human being who has flaws like ALL OF US. If you are taking accounts from FORMER girlfriends, employees, etc. you have to take them with a grain of salt. Also, you have to take into consideration when comments were made. Were they made when feelings were raw, before time brought clarity?

I think it is ridiculous to say that Prince is a HORRIBLE person. One can look at all the charitable things that he has done over the years for countless people and see that he is not a HORRIBLE person.

He has given so much money to charities as well as performed benefit concerts, held food drives, set aside tickets for kids at concerts, etc. He has done this for decades.

He has given many musicians opportunities, which have been the catalyst for them to have long, successful careers. Some of them might have had careers as musicians, but not of the magnitude that they had/have after the exposure Prince gave them - people like Wendy, Lisa, Candy Dulfer, Morris Day, even Sheila E. as talented as she is, Prince made her a superstar.

He's launched or helped expand the careers of many people, many ex-girlfriends like Vanity, Carmen Electra, Mayte, etc. They would never have had the fame/careers that they had/have without their relationship to Prince.

He's kept several former band members on his payroll long after they left the band. He's also given former associates songs that turned out to be the biggest hits of their careers.

He's breathed life into the careers of many veteran musicians by giving them opportunities to record at PP, writing music for them and having them tour with him.

He's given more to his fans than many other artists of his caliber - the celebrations, three decades of AMAZING concerts and performances, three decades of quality music, affordable concert tickets, the NPG music club concert perks (pre-sales, preferred seating, early entrance, after shows). Yet many of these so-called fans complain and/or criticize at the drop of the dime.

There are also the spontaneous acts of kindness that he has shown throughout the years that are too many to mention, but I think of recent things like buying Cora a custom drum set after he met her, long before she joined his band.

I also know people who have worked with him who have told me good stories about their experiences working with him. I also know some who have had good and bad experiences. He's a perfectionist, which makes him a demanding boss and some people just can't hang with that.

At the end of the day, as I said, he is a human being. He is not perfect - no one is. He's made mistakes. However, I think it is extremely unfair to call him a HORRIBLE person. Is he a saint, no. Are you?



he's a human being; get out the violin.

well obviously; unless he's a reptilian shapeshifter(obviously not)

Get a reality check.

Ak andre how cold hearted prince is or mayte who suffered alot of abuse.


he's an achiever & a survivor. survival of the fittest? oh yh! razz
he's also gained massive respeck by those who recognise tht work & play r 2 different thangs.
& mayte? letting her go is prob the biggest regret he will ever have. his bad, but don't make him horrible.
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Reply #33 posted 01/08/08 2:25pm

fcukthepolice

gemini13 said:

CarrieLee said:




I'm not a hater, I said he makes great music. But his latest actions are shitty. Sorry, I call it like I see it...and fortunately I see without purple colored glasses. shrug



I agree. What if Hitler or Dahmer made extraordinary music? Would it be ok to ignore their personality flaws? confused


seems to be the case for some who worship their idols blindly

hitler wasn't all bad; just ask will smith biggrin
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Reply #34 posted 01/08/08 2:27pm

bellanoche

fcukthepolice said:


he's a human being; get out the violin.

well obviously; unless he's a reptilian shapeshifter(obviously not)

Get a reality check.

Ak andre how cold hearted prince is or mayte who suffered alot of abuse.


Oh, I'm sorry I did not know that the Mayte/Prince marriage was a threesome. So you were there? You don't know that she suffered a lot of abuse. I've never read her say that she suffered a lot of abuse. I've read that the marriage had ups and downs like any other marriage. People on this site love to run with the story that Mayte was so abused and controlled. Even Michael B, who was closer to the situation than any of you, said on this site that he didn't see her being controlled any more than anyone else in the band.

Give me a break. Until I hear her say she was treated so terribly, I don't buy it. If she was so abused, why did she make her way out to Vegas to see him? In the interview that was posted on this very site, she said that Prince paid more attention to her and was more in touch with women than other men she went out with. She said he could make you feel like the center of the universe. Then she said how she couldn't call him, she had to wait for him to call and that is all the haters on this site chose to focus on. Prince works around the clock, he probably doesn't like to be interrupted.

Also, Andre wasn't crying when he was singing Dance Electric. Also, you can ask Jody Watley how cold hearted Andre is. So, as I said, it all has to be taken with a grain of salt because NONE OF US WERE THERE!

At the end of the day, the man makes music for us to listen to, his personal life has nothing to do with that. He shares his musical gift with us, he is not obligated to give us anything or live his life they way we want him to. You need the reality check, not me. Quit trying to confine Prince to your myopic vision of who he should be.
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Reply #35 posted 01/08/08 2:30pm

lottielooloo19
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fcukthepolice said:

gemini13 said:




I agree. What if Hitler or Dahmer made extraordinary music? Would it be ok to ignore their personality flaws? confused


seems to be the case for some who worship their idols blindly

hitler wasn't all bad; just ask will smith biggrin


so u have a problem with blind people 2? haters!
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Reply #36 posted 01/08/08 2:31pm

PurpleKnight

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He threatened Sinead O'Connor for doing a cover of his song.

He once responded to a fan who complimented him on Emancipation with a remark, "Am I supposed to care?"

He's snubbed other musicians like Elton John and Trent Reznor who dared to say hi.

He physically abused Jill Jones.

He stole credit from Andre Cymone for Do Me Baby.

He's cheated on just about every gf, including his first wife.

He wanted Wendy and Lisa to renounce their homosexuality.

He's routinely sued websites for celebrating his legacy with pictures.


Yeah, Prince has been a great person. neutral
The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.

"You still wanna take me to prison...just because I won't trade humanity for patriotism."
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Reply #37 posted 01/08/08 2:34pm

bellanoche

Here is the link to the Mayte interview from this site. Where does she say that she was treated horribly?

‘It was a strange relationship, but great. Yes, he was a bit controlling, but I was young, I'd never had a boyfriend so I had no idea how it was supposed to be,’ says Mayte, who, despite radiating intelligence, neverthless talks about her ex-spouse with a Stepford Wife (or rather, Stepford divorcee) air of bright casualness, as though it were perfectly normal to have your husband pick out your shoes for the day. Back then, as a teenager, she was mesmerised.

‘Prince is an incredible perfomer on stage, but when you meet him he's not at all aloof; he's funny and charming and very aware. Now I know other men, I can see how in tune he is with women, it's the way he notices every detail about you. ‘He'll comment on your hair, or acknowledge a new pair of earrings and when he looks at you he makes you feel like you're the centre of his universe - that's very beguiling.’


http://prince.org/msg/5/211935
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Reply #38 posted 01/08/08 2:42pm

fcukthepolice

PurpleKnight said:

He threatened Sinead O'Connor for doing a cover of his song.

He once responded to a fan who complimented him on Emancipation with a remark, "Am I supposed to care?"

He's snubbed other musicians like Elton John and Trent Reznor who dared to say hi.

He physically abused Jill Jones.

He stole credit from Andre Cymone for Do Me Baby.

He's cheated on just about every gf, including his first wife.

He wanted Wendy and Lisa to renounce their homosexuality.

He's routinely sued websites for celebrating his legacy with pictures.


Yeah, Prince has been a great person. neutral


He ignored stevie ray at pp

He mentally abuse nona gaye 'three years of mind game' she said

He fired w & l for asking for credit and money for their work

He treated sussana like a dog and sent her home from the parade set

He made mayte stop eating meat and lied by saying she changed him to a vegan. BULLSHIT; mayte eats meat!

He ranted at paisley park about how if you don't follow his book he will take your women as you have no laws.

He deliberately ignores fans who ask for autographs. SUre he doesn;t have to sign but he's very rude
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Reply #39 posted 01/08/08 2:53pm

QuietSeven

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have a nice day
[Edited 1/16/08 17:30pm]
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BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR...CAN YOU DANCE? CUZN I KNOW I CAN.
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Reply #40 posted 01/08/08 3:03pm

bellanoche

PurpleKnight said:

He threatened Sinead O'Connor for doing a cover of his song.

He once responded to a fan who complimented him on Emancipation with a remark, "Am I supposed to care?"

He's snubbed other musicians like Elton John and Trent Reznor who dared to say hi.

He physically abused Jill Jones.

He stole credit from Andre Cymone for Do Me Baby.

He's cheated on just about every gf, including his first wife.

He wanted Wendy and Lisa to renounce their homosexuality.

He's routinely sued websites for celebrating his legacy with pictures.


Yeah, Prince has been a great person. neutral



Some of your points are unfounded or exaggerated. Sinead O'Connor is mentally unstable and a fame whore, so I am not inclined to believe anything she says. That Prince cover was probably the biggest hit of her career. He got paid from her covering it, so why would he threaten her? That story of hers has changed several times in the 15 years that she has been trying to tell it to anyone who would listen. Whatever.

The alleged Jill Jones incident has NEVER been proven. If it happened it is horrible, but it it seems so out of character, which is probably why it has never been proven.

With regard to the cheating, I can't stand cheating and have never done it in my relationships. So, I don't think highly of that, but does it make him a HORRIBLE person? I doubt that many men in Prince's position would have an easy time of being monogamous. He's not unlike most famous musicians in that category - Bob Marley, Mick Jagger, Carlos Santana, and the list goes on and on.

Has he "routinely" sued Web sites or is that yet another exaggeration? Regardless, it is his image and likeness so he has the right to control it, especially when these site so carelessly spew rumors and get all up in the man's personal business.

If his religion does not accept homosexuality, that is something for him to decide whether to embrace. However, that is obviously water under the bridge as Wendy and Lisa have since performed with him several times. Wendy and Prince seemed to get along very well in Minneapolis this summer and he called her one of his best friends. So, what is your point there?

I don't know about Elton John, Trent or the random fan accounts, but my sister and I met him in Vegas and he was completely charming, warm and funny with us. He remembered our conversation from the previous night and brought it up to us himself as he passed out Watchtowers at our table the second night. He then went out of his way to make sure we had a good time at the aftershow. So I had a fantastic experience with him. Maybe those other people caught him on a bad day, we all have them.

Finally, if he jacked Andre for "Do Me Baby," that is messed up, but again, does it make him a HORRIBLE person? Also, considering that "Dance Electric" was long after that, they seem to have moved on from it, so why don't you?
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Reply #41 posted 01/08/08 3:07pm

bellanoche

QuietSeven said:

Bellanoche:

I would like to commend you on the kind and accurate words you gave above.
I agree...Mr. Nelson, is a very kind man. Perception is a key with which the world thrives on distorting the truth. I had met Mr. Nelson and found him to be a genuine "gentleman" nothing less but A GENTLEMAN.

With Kind words and observation, I smile towards you.

Take Care,
QuietSeven


QuietSeven:

Thank you for such a beautiful post. I think that type of grace is much-needed on this site. I used to dig this site years ago, but over time, it has become so negative that I hardly post any more. It's comforting to know that another gentle spirit is hanging around this place. Your smile is reciprocated and I wish you continued light and beauty in your life. There is no worthy opponent for the truth.

Best,
Bellanoche
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Reply #42 posted 01/08/08 3:14pm

fcukthepolice

bellanoche said:

PurpleKnight said:

He threatened Sinead O'Connor for doing a cover of his song.

He once responded to a fan who complimented him on Emancipation with a remark, "Am I supposed to care?"

He's snubbed other musicians like Elton John and Trent Reznor who dared to say hi.

He physically abused Jill Jones.

He stole credit from Andre Cymone for Do Me Baby.

He's cheated on just about every gf, including his first wife.

He wanted Wendy and Lisa to renounce their homosexuality.

He's routinely sued websites for celebrating his legacy with pictures.


Yeah, Prince has been a great person. neutral



Some of your points are unfounded or exaggerated. Sinead O'Connor is mentally unstable and a fame whore, so I am not inclined to believe anything she says. That Prince cover was probably the biggest hit of her career. He got paid from her covering it, so why would he threaten her? That story of hers has changed several times in the 15 years that she has been trying to tell it to anyone who would listen. Whatever.

The alleged Jill Jones incident has NEVER been proven. If it happened it is horrible, but it it seems so out of character, which is probably why it has never been proven.

With regard to the cheating, I can't stand cheating and have never done it in my relationships. So, I don't think highly of that, but does it make him a HORRIBLE person? I doubt that many men in Prince's position would have an easy time of being monogamous. He's not unlike most famous musicians in that category - Bob Marley, Mick Jagger, Carlos Santana, and the list goes on and on.

Has he "routinely" sued Web sites or is that yet another exaggeration? Regardless, it is his image and likeness so he has the right to control it, especially when these site so carelessly spew rumors and get all up in the man's personal business.

If his religion does not accept homosexuality, that is something for him to decide whether to embrace. However, that is obviously water under the bridge as Wendy and Lisa have since performed with him several times. Wendy and Prince seemed to get along very well in Minneapolis this summer and he called her one of his best friends. So, what is your point there?

I don't know about Elton John, Trent or the random fan accounts, but my sister and I met him in Vegas and he was completely charming, warm and funny with us. He remembered our conversation from the previous night and brought it up to us himself as he passed out Watchtowers at our table the second night. He then went out of his way to make sure we had a good time at the aftershow. So I had a fantastic experience with him. Maybe those other people caught him on a bad day, we all have them.

Finally, if he jacked Andre for "Do Me Baby," that is messed up, but again, does it make him a HORRIBLE person? Also, considering that "Dance Electric" was long after that, they seem to have moved on from it, so why don't you?


Sinead o connor is no more metally unstable than Prince. He has major problems and can't relate to his fellew man and woman; she can at least. Being depressed does not equate to lies. Read her body language; she was clearly at least threatened.

yeah he was nice to you becuase he was passing out watchtowers. If you refused them he would look at you like you were shit. He onlt talks to fans if it's religion; he just preaches then and tries to dictate what you should do.
He didn't just jack DMB. He used andre's basslines for i'm yours. uptown and feel for you.
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Reply #43 posted 01/08/08 3:22pm

bellanoche

fcukthepolice said:



He ignored stevie ray at pp

He mentally abuse nona gaye 'three years of mind game' she said

He fired w & l for asking for credit and money for their work

He treated sussana like a dog and sent her home from the parade set

He made mayte stop eating meat and lied by saying she changed him to a vegan. BULLSHIT; mayte eats meat!

He ranted at paisley park about how if you don't follow his book he will take your women as you have no laws.

He deliberately ignores fans who ask for autographs. SUre he doesn;t have to sign but he's very rude



This is crazy, you guys are posting things that allegedly happened years ago. The parties involved have all worked together since, so what is the big deal? Who knows what really went down then and who cares, THEY'VE ALL MOVED ON! Forgiveness is a gift - to ask for it and to give it.

Eveyone knows that Prince doesn't give autographs so why would anyone ask? That said, when I was in Vegas I saw a girl ask him to sign her Prince bag and he politely said he did not do that he then told her that he liked her bag. He did not ignore her.

Finally why do you guys post so many unfounded statements, especially about his personal life when none of you were there? With regard to Nona Gaye, she has since admitted that her drug addiction played a part in her relationship with Prince. This does not excuse Prince. It takes two people to be in a relationship. However, please do some research before you post these random "hater" comments.

"Not long after that debacle, Gaye became involved with R&B superstar Prince. They recorded a few songs together and had a long-term relationship that ended when Gaye learned he was engaged to his backup singer and dancer, Mayte. Gaye later noted that there was a gulf between them that was explained by her substance abuse more than the 16-year age difference between them. "Three years I dated him and didn't know him and really never let him know me, either," she later told Harris in Esquire. "But that was a long time ago, and I wish him well."

http://biography.jrank.or...-Nona.html
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Reply #44 posted 01/08/08 3:27pm

bellanoche

fcukthepolice said:


yeah he was nice to you becuase he was passing out watchtowers. If you refused them he would look at you like you were shit. He onlt talks to fans if it's religion; he just preaches then and tries to dictate what you should do.
He didn't just jack DMB. He used andre's basslines for i'm yours. uptown and feel for you.


WRONG! The first night we met him he WAS NOT passing out Watchtowers. Our conversation had nothing to do with religion! The SECOND night was when he passed out Watchtowers and he mentioned the conversation from the night before, which was his way of indicating that he remembered us. The previous night we said that we would be back the following night.

Again, you are just making assumptions that are unfounded. Some of you on this so-called Prince fan site are just content to bash the man, so go ahead. I'm done.
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Reply #45 posted 01/08/08 5:02pm

gemini13

bellanoche said:

fcukthepolice said:


yeah he was nice to you becuase he was passing out watchtowers. If you refused them he would look at you like you were shit. He onlt talks to fans if it's religion; he just preaches then and tries to dictate what you should do.
He didn't just jack DMB. He used andre's basslines for i'm yours. uptown and feel for you.


WRONG! The first night we met him he WAS NOT passing out Watchtowers. Our conversation had nothing to do with religion! The SECOND night was when he passed out Watchtowers and he mentioned the conversation from the night before, which was his way of indicating that he remembered us. The previous night we said that we would be back the following night.

Again, you are just making assumptions that are unfounded. Some of you on this so-called Prince fan site are just content to bash the man, so go ahead. I'm done.



nuts

You really do sound like an abused woman who defends her abuser. Prince is NOT your pal or buddy, looney tune.
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Reply #46 posted 01/08/08 5:54pm

Markland

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Its a little scary reading what people type on this and other sites.
For some strange reason I always imagined places like this were to discuss an artists music, opinions of it, meet up with like minded fans, share information on gigs etc.
Increasingly these rants are posted by people who seriously think they are some part of the purples ones life, some posts I am sure are put here because people think they will get his attention and he will invite them around for a cup of tea or something.
Lets get something straight, unless you know him personally and are part of his circle of real friends, you don't know him, don't know how his mind works, in short, you know sod all about him.
That applies equally to those who are critical of him and to those who think his purple poo doesn't smell.
Lets have a show of hands shall we?
How many of you have actually spent long periods of quality time in his company where he has shared his innermost secrets/feelings with you?
Anyone?
Noone?
Theres a surprise.....
So the bottom line is none of us here know him
Then why the hell are so many people banging on like he is their best mate and they know everything about him?
The bottom line is we all know bugger all
So get a grip
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Reply #47 posted 01/08/08 6:20pm

ritaw

Markland said:

Its a little scary reading what people type on this and other sites.
For some strange reason I always imagined places like this were to discuss an artists music, opinions of it, meet up with like minded fans, share information on gigs etc.
Increasingly these rants are posted by people who seriously think they are some part of the purples ones life, some posts I am sure are put here because people think they will get his attention and he will invite them around for a cup of tea or something.
Lets get something straight, unless you know him personally and are part of his circle of real friends, you don't know him, don't know how his mind works, in short, you know sod all about him.
That applies equally to those who are critical of him and to those who think his purple poo doesn't smell.
Lets have a show of hands shall we?
How many of you have actually spent long periods of quality time in his company where he has shared his innermost secrets/feelings with you?
Anyone?
Noone?
Theres a surprise.....
So the bottom line is none of us here know him
Then why the hell are so many people banging on like he is their best mate and they know everything about him?
The bottom line is we all know bugger all
So get a grip


quite - i do wonder why so many people on this site indulge in Prince-bashing verging on the libellious - could it be envy? it certainly gets quite nasty so what exactly is everyone's problem?
"C'mon y'all - let me hear you sing, c'mon y'all, shake, c'mon y'all, jump" - Yes Prince -
"London do you feel for me what I feel for you"- yes Prince -
"Can I play my guitar now?" - yes please
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Reply #48 posted 01/08/08 7:37pm

bellanoche

ritaw said:

Markland said:

Its a little scary reading what people type on this and other sites.
For some strange reason I always imagined places like this were to discuss an artists music, opinions of it, meet up with like minded fans, share information on gigs etc.
Increasingly these rants are posted by people who seriously think they are some part of the purples ones life, some posts I am sure are put here because people think they will get his attention and he will invite them around for a cup of tea or something.
Lets get something straight, unless you know him personally and are part of his circle of real friends, you don't know him, don't know how his mind works, in short, you know sod all about him.
That applies equally to those who are critical of him and to those who think his purple poo doesn't smell.
Lets have a show of hands shall we?
How many of you have actually spent long periods of quality time in his company where he has shared his innermost secrets/feelings with you?
Anyone?
Noone?
Theres a surprise.....
So the bottom line is none of us here know him
Then why the hell are so many people banging on like he is their best mate and they know everything about him?
The bottom line is we all know bugger all
So get a grip


quite - i do wonder why so many people on this site indulge in Prince-bashing verging on the libellious - could it be envy? it certainly gets quite nasty so what exactly is everyone's problem?


I agree. I am not Prince's buddy nor have I ever claimed to be. On the flip, I am not going to just spew tabloid-like nonsense either. It's funny that some people like Gemini13 resort to calling names when someone like myself refutes these claims with actual evidence or asks people to prove their own claims with evidence.

Since I am a journalist and professor by trade, I cannot stand to see misinformation, rumors and sheer speculation bandied about as truth or the gospel on this site. It really gets under my skin the way people just post things as if they were fact and how others run with it. Then they wonder why he wants to censor stuff like this.

I don't know what kind of person Prince is in his private life, but neither does anyone else here. However, I always try to post factual information that I support with links rather than just spout off at the mouth. I also try to give first-person accounts rather than "this so-called person said this or that." There are times when I have been present at certain events then seen posts here that are completely false regarding what happened. All I am saying is that people on here need to support what they are saying with evidence and stop spreading rumors.

However, I have found that all of this is a waste of time on this site. I hate that I allowed myself to be sucked into this thread because threads like this never go anywhere. It just reminds me why I rarely post here anymore.
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Reply #49 posted 01/09/08 3:19am

fcukthepolice

bellanoche said:

ritaw said:



quite - i do wonder why so many people on this site indulge in Prince-bashing verging on the libellious - could it be envy? it certainly gets quite nasty so what exactly is everyone's problem?


I agree. I am not Prince's buddy nor have I ever claimed to be. On the flip, I am not going to just spew tabloid-like nonsense either. It's funny that some people like Gemini13 resort to calling names when someone like myself refutes these claims with actual evidence or asks people to prove their own claims with evidence.

Since I am a journalist and professor by trade, I cannot stand to see misinformation, rumors and sheer speculation bandied about as truth or the gospel on this site. It really gets under my skin the way people just post things as if they were fact and how others run with it. Then they wonder why he wants to censor stuff like this.

I don't know what kind of person Prince is in his private life, but neither does anyone else here. However, I always try to post factual information that I support with links rather than just spout off at the mouth. I also try to give first-person accounts rather than "this so-called person said this or that." There are times when I have been present at certain events then seen posts here that are completely false regarding what happened. All I am saying is that people on here need to support what they are saying with evidence and stop spreading rumors.

However, I have found that all of this is a waste of time on this site. I hate that I allowed myself to be sucked into this thread because threads like this never go anywhere. It just reminds me why I rarely post here anymore.



Morris day, andre, w & l, nona, sinead, etc etc know what hes' like and all have commented on his controlling nature and how cold he is.

Jesse said he's an asshole. He deliberately erased jesse's guitar solo off a track becuase jesse's playing intimidated him. He fired jimmy jam and terry becuase he the time were getting better crowd reactions than him.

His engineer who worked with him for THREE YEARS said he treats people like shit.

If DOZENS of independant people say the same thing; that is good evidence. Girlfriends, co-workers etc all say the same thing.
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Reply #50 posted 01/09/08 3:47am

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QuietSeven said:

Bellanoche:

I would like to commend you on the kind and accurate words you gave above.
I agree...Mr. Nelson, is a very kind man. Perception is a key with which the world thrives on distorting the truth. I had met Mr. Nelson and found him to be a genuine "gentleman" nothing less but A GENTLEMAN.

With Kind words and observation, I smile towards you.

Take Care,
QuietSeven


QuietSeven:

Thank you for such a beautiful post. I think that type of grace is much-needed on this site. I used to dig this site years ago, but over time, it has become so negative that I hardly post any more. It's comforting to know that another gentle spirit is hanging around this place. Your smile is reciprocated and I wish you continued light and beauty in your life. There is no worthy opponent for the truth.

Best,
Bellanoche



For what it's worth, I'm on your side guys.

There's a hell of a lot worse going on in this world that to me makes Prince's acts, still be compared on the side deemed as trivial!

Princes good deeds outweigh his bad tenfold. What a shame that no-one seems to want to discuss these at the moment.
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Reply #51 posted 01/09/08 4:05am

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mentalist said:

bellanoche said:



QuietSeven:

Thank you for such a beautiful post. I think that type of grace is much-needed on this site. I used to dig this site years ago, but over time, it has become so negative that I hardly post any more. It's comforting to know that another gentle spirit is hanging around this place. Your smile is reciprocated and I wish you continued light and beauty in your life. There is no worthy opponent for the truth.

Best,
Bellanoche



For what it's worth, I'm on your side guys.

There's a hell of a lot worse going on in this world that to me makes Prince's acts, still be compared on the side deemed as trivial!

Princes good deeds outweigh his bad tenfold. What a shame that no-one seems to want to discuss these at the moment.



There are some people on this site who will always slag off Prince (and anyone who supports him or stands up for him), same old comments, same old, same old. You can't get through to them with facts or anything that makes sense, they've made up their minds and do their best to intimidate and bully others into believing the same confused Why do they continue to post about him though? That seems a lot more crazy to me than anything else!
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Jeffiner said:

mentalist said:




For what it's worth, I'm on your side guys.

There's a hell of a lot worse going on in this world that to me makes Prince's acts, still be compared on the side deemed as trivial!

Princes good deeds outweigh his bad tenfold. What a shame that no-one seems to want to discuss these at the moment.



There are some people on this site who will always slag off Prince (and anyone who supports him or stands up for him), same old comments, same old, same old. You can't get through to them with facts or anything that makes sense, they've made up their minds and do their best to intimidate and bully others into believing the same confused Why do they continue to post about him though? That seems a lot more crazy to me than anything else!



That's when the obsession becomes unhealthy!!!

I agree, I can't believe how much time and energy some people dedicate to this site to purely negative views and opinions.

Surely if the love is now lost then it's time move on and find a new love (just like in real life relationships).

Everyone on here is acting like hard done by jilted lovers that are out purely for revenge on their ex!!!!

Time to get on with it or move on Sweethearts!!!!

You're spoiling it for the rest of us!!!
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Reply #53 posted 01/09/08 6:16am

Jeffiner

mentalist said:

Jeffiner said:




There are some people on this site who will always slag off Prince (and anyone who supports him or stands up for him), same old comments, same old, same old. You can't get through to them with facts or anything that makes sense, they've made up their minds and do their best to intimidate and bully others into believing the same confused Why do they continue to post about him though? That seems a lot more crazy to me than anything else!



That's when the obsession becomes unhealthy!!!

I agree, I can't believe how much time and energy some people dedicate to this site to purely negative views and opinions.

Surely if the love is now lost then it's time move on and find a new love (just like in real life relationships).

Everyone on here is acting like hard done by jilted lovers that are out purely for revenge on their ex!!!!

Time to get on with it or move on Sweethearts!!!!

You're spoiling it for the rest of us!!!


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Reply #54 posted 01/09/08 6:47am

darrenj

I’m not sure anyone really hates Prince.

They are aggrieved by his action of attempting to take away there playpen, that being prince.org.

From my perspective Prince existed long before this site and he will continue to exist long after it.

Some fell out of love of Prince’s newer music some time ago, and all that remains is prince.org, where they can take out there frustration’s on new fan’s and members of Prince.org, that really do like and appreciate his new stuff.

It’s understandable really, isn’t it?
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Reply #55 posted 01/09/08 7:24am

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Its a little scary reading what people type on this and other sites.
For some strange reason I always imagined places like this were to discuss an artists music, opinions of it, meet up with like minded fans, share information on gigs etc.
Increasingly these rants are posted by people who seriously think they are some part of the purples ones life, some posts I am sure are put here because people think they will get his attention and he will invite them around for a cup of tea or something.
Lets get something straight, unless you know him personally and are part of his circle of real friends, you don't know him, don't know how his mind works, in short, you know sod all about him.
That applies equally to those who are critical of him and to those who think his purple poo doesn't smell.
Lets have a show of hands shall we?
How many of you have actually spent long periods of quality time in his company where he has shared his innermost secrets/feelings with you?
Anyone?
Noone?
Theres a surprise.....
So the bottom line is none of us here know him
Then why the hell are so many people banging on like he is their best mate and they know everything about him?
The bottom line is we all know bugger all
So get a grip


well said markland
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #56 posted 01/09/08 7:32am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Markland said:

Its a little scary reading what people type on this and other sites.
For some strange reason I always imagined places like this were to discuss an artists music, opinions of it, meet up with like minded fans, share information on gigs etc.
Increasingly these rants are posted by people who seriously think they are some part of the purples ones life, some posts I am sure are put here because people think they will get his attention and he will invite them around for a cup of tea or something.
Lets get something straight, unless you know him personally and are part of his circle of real friends, you don't know him, don't know how his mind works, in short, you know sod all about him.
That applies equally to those who are critical of him and to those who think his purple poo doesn't smell.
Lets have a show of hands shall we?
How many of you have actually spent long periods of quality time in his company where he has shared his innermost secrets/feelings with you?
Anyone?
Noone?
Theres a surprise.....
So the bottom line is none of us here know him
Then why the hell are so many people banging on like he is their best mate and they know everything about him?
The bottom line is we all know bugger all
So get a grip


well said markland




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Reply #57 posted 01/09/08 7:39am

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Markland said

I think prince has been watching too much Harry Potter and thinks he is Lord Voldemort, i.e. "He Who Must Not Be Named" (for fear of being sued)


Prince can't stand Harry Potter, you idiot!!

lol lol
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Reply #58 posted 01/09/08 9:57am

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He only treats us fams like sh*t because he preaches tough love. cool


lol Aww, thank you so much for making me laugh! Thank you! That was sweet!lol
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Reply #59 posted 01/09/08 10:13am

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darrenj said:

Markland said

I think prince has been watching too much Harry Potter and thinks he is Lord Voldemort, i.e. "He Who Must Not Be Named" (for fear of being sued)


Prince can't stand Harry Potter, you idiot!!

lol lol


Let me guess, he invited you round for tea and shared this gem with you, or do you believe everything you read?

Try making your point without resorting to name calling, it detracts from any iota of validity your underlying point actually has
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