Im sorry..I tried my best to not take it here..But, some People need to know the "REAL" deal ! watch this starting at 4:15 mins !!!

prettymansson said:

that is amazing, thanx for posting it

I so wish that he and prince could have one time worked together, imagine what would have come out

I so wish that he and prince could have one time worked together, imagine what would have come out

Whitnail said:

Id love to hear Jimi on some Prince grooves..Imagine "get it up" with Jimi on guitar..or America or computer blue..WOW !

Prince by far is one of the greatest guitarist that ever walked the earth ...i play guitar and i think i play well many times u can hear my playing on my profile ..i wish i could play 1/4 as well as Prince

RipPoPtheregoMYTOP said:

u may b rite princes guitar skills are not hard to imitate at least not for me but wat is hard to imitate is the charisma he shows and the passion he has for playing n it is portrayed in his playing

he does simple guitar licks but his facial expressions along with his hand gestures hair gestures it makes it look so good that he is playing

Purplerain7772001 said:

Those belong to Jimi Hendrix too !

Im sorry..I tried my best to not take it here..But, some People need to know the "REAL" deal ! watch this starting at 4:15 mins !!!

prettymansson said:

Ahh, Machine Gun, thanks, I know it well and I'm certain that most of us do. Hendrix is loved by many here including myself and who knows where he would have taken us had he lived, but I have to say that I'm not sure what your point is and frankly your comment comes off sounding a bit condescending.

As I understood the point of the thread, the comparison was more about why Prince usually doesn't receive similar acclaim as other top guitarists...that was the comparison moreso than who the "real deal" is. As BG stated, it's all subjective and therefore it's not a contest, it really isn't.

People sharing their observations and experiences of what Prince brings to the table does not diminish Hendrix or any other guitarist in any way. So I really don't get the "People need to know the real deal" attitude. I love all of my guitar guys from Hendrix to Buddy Guy to Santana, however Prince is still my favorite and the fact that I like what I like shouldn't cause anyone to feel that they need to make some sort of competition out of it.

my point is simple..
when Prince couldnt play a chord on the guitar Hendrix was a GOD !
no matter how fabulous Prince is (and I do consider him to be the all around greatest showman, multi instrumentalist, Funky soul man)
the Original will always be the best in my eyes !

Well first off, let me wish all of u a Merry Christmas and that your days may be right as rain. I would like to thank all of u who have posted addressing my posts. Very kind...very kind indeeed. U all have made great points as well and ones that I agree with. Let me add to this topic, P's signature solo, Purple Rain. This to him is what the Star Bangled Banner was to Hendrix. And to P's blessing, he's still around and living, be able to play it. Where as Jimi was only 27 when he left this place. Very, very young, to have a life ended. P, on the other hand, no matter what period or year, or band lineup he may be using, whenever he plays this solo live...it's really the only person that I have witnessed live who, at times, has caused my eyes to well up with tears. I've grown up with Prince. I was just a little kid back in 78 when I first got hipped to P. But I've follwed him very closely since his second album and have seen him live in concert beginning with the Contoversy tour. I say all this because I experienced Prince when P was forming. Before he became a superstar. I just didn't hear about how wild P was in the early 80's but I witnessed it first hand. By the time 84 rolled around, Prince OWNED that year musically. I saw him 4 times on the Purple Rain tour alone. Seeing P playing the music from the film that had only been out a few months was something else. When P got to the song Purple Rain, I can't describe the vibe that was in that arena. Night after night, this is where P TRULY went somewhere else. It was highly spritual. I have see Prince actually have tears run down his face while playing this solo. This is no lie. I rarely speak of this on this site because I never really felt it fitting. But I have never seen any other artist connect with a crowd while playing a guitar solo like P has. EVERYONE knows the melody of the solo. It's like a song within itself actually. Then in 85 at those shows, it was an emotional element. P, for the first time, saw that he was loved, for something. And u could see that it moved him. P would play that solo, at times, for 15, 20 minutes straight. I think he could play that solo for hours, if he had the right audience.

my point is simple..
when Prince couldnt play a chord on the guitar Hendrix was a GOD !
no matter how fabulous Prince is (and I do consider him to be the all around greatest showman, multi instrumentalist, Funky soul man)
the Original will always be the best in my eyes !

OK, can we for once have a serious analysis of P´s guitar work in comparison to others.

My first example, is the Rock N roll of Fame, why did he re act like that, I will tell you why, it was a F U statement to people that first, think that P cant play guitar and secondly that a black artist cant master the instrument, especially in rock n roll terms.

I think deep down, P is still very angry that he is never taken seriously in the guitar world, and to be honest he has every right to be angry, I saw the shows recently at the O2 and aftershows, and P has become one of the most outstanding guitarists in the world, in the realm of guitarists on the big stage.

So go look up you tube for your Mark Knoplers, those are the ones that compete on this level, and lets have a proper thread on Prince for once
[Edited 12/22/07 23:07pm]

Whitnail said:

Not everything is about race, you know?

Well, to people who are above such trivial concerns as skin color, which may exclude Prince & many of the people on this site. Prince is not the first black man to pick up a guitar, nor is he the best. As interesting as a lot of his guitar work has been, Berry & Hendrix did more for the instrument than he ever will & there are countless black blues legends who get more from the instrument in a few notes than Prince's most impassioned playing.

If Prince wants to be taken more seriously in the "guitar world," perhaps he shouldn't drown out the instrument in his records with cowbells and other stupid shit.

Or maybe you're just way off and what he really wants is recognition from the cowbell players of the world? Maybe you should just leave him be.

prettymansson said:

Yeah, I get that Hendrix is the best in your eyes...no problem. I don't see where anyone was trying to convince you otherwise because we weren't talking about who's best therefore I didn't get how the real deal comments fit into this particular discussion.

That's why I used the word favorite rather than terms like best or real deal.

RipPoPtheregoMYTOP said:

u may b rite princes guitar skills are not hard to imitate at least not for me but wat is hard to imitate is the charisma he shows and the passion he has for playing n it is portrayed in his playing

he does simple guitar licks but his facial expressions along with his hand gestures hair gestures it makes it look so good that he is playing

Jeffiner said:

wow, that must have been the bomb, where you a P fan back then?

Well first off, let me wish all of u a Merry Christmas and that your days may be right as rain. I would like to thank all of u who have posted addressing my posts. Very kind...very kind indeeed. U all have made great points as well and ones that I agree with. Let me add to this topic, P's signature solo, Purple Rain. This to him is what the Star Bangled Banner was to Hendrix. And to P's blessing, he's still around and living, be able to play it. Where as Jimi was only 27 when he left this place. Very, very young, to have a life ended. P, on the other hand, no matter what period or year, or band lineup he may be using, whenever he plays this solo live...it's really the only person that I have witnessed live who, at times, has caused my eyes to well up with tears. I've grown up with Prince. I was just a little kid back in 78 when I first got hipped to P. But I've follwed him very closely since his second album and have seen him live in concert beginning with the Contoversy tour. I say all this because I experienced Prince when P was forming. Before he became a superstar. I just didn't hear about how wild P was in the early 80's but I witnessed it first hand. By the time 84 rolled around, Prince OWNED that year musically. I saw him 4 times on the Purple Rain tour alone. Seeing P playing the music from the film that had only been out a few months was something else. When P got to the song Purple Rain, I can't describe the vibe that was in that arena. Night after night, this is where P TRULY went somewhere else. It was highly spritual. I have see Prince actually have tears run down his face while playing this solo. This is no lie. I rarely speak of this on this site because I never really felt it fitting. But I have never seen any other artist connect with a crowd while playing a guitar solo like P has. EVERYONE knows the melody of the solo. It's like a song within itself actually. Then in 85 at those shows, it was an emotional element. P, for the first time, saw that he was loved, for something. And u could see that it moved him. P would play that solo, at times, for 15, 20 minutes straight. I think he could play that solo for hours, if he had the right audience.

Again,
I said what the hell i wanted to say..If its not your cup o tea..carry on with your discussion...there's no need to even comment about my comments if you dont care for them!

prettymansson said:

Hi!

Actually I did have a couple more questions if you don't mind...

1. In your opinion what, if anything, does Prince do on guitar that you find distinctive and/or unique?


I think his rhythm guitar playing is very unique..most funk rhythm masters..ie: Nile rodgers of chic..play variations on the james brown/jimmy nolan guitar strokes..think sex machine..hot pants ect..
I always saw prince as a kinda cross between freddie stone /sly and the family stone and tony maiden of rufus..IMO those three cats are the most innovative/interesting rhythm players i have ever heard in funk (of course along with jimmy nolan)

2.Do you believe that Prince is underrated as a guitar player? If so, why?


Yes I do..I think he could have gone in any direction he wanted to as a guitarist..rock..blues..jazzy ect..But he choose to focus on using the guitar to embellish some of the greatest pop music ever recorded..songs that feature among other things..interesting cutting edge production..his distinctive vocals..keys,bass,synth lines ect..that + the fact that his image was more along the lines of a michael jackson ie: popstar..dancer...singer...androgynous...than say a straight "serious musician" I think a lot of people haven't really taken the time to see beyond the raspberry berets..and when doves cry's ect..I think most people buy into marketing..and Prince has always been much more than just a GUITARIST.

Thanks for your patience...I promise to leave you in peace in the future!

Its cool..

babynoz said:

babynoz said:

OK, can we for once have a serious analysis of P´s guitar work in comparison to others.

My first example, is the Rock N roll of Fame, why did he re act like that, I will tell you why, it was a F U statement to people that first, think that P cant play guitar and secondly that a black artist cant master the instrument, especially in rock n roll terms.

I think deep down, P is still very angry that he is never taken seriously in the guitar world, and to be honest he has every right to be angry, I saw the shows recently at the O2 and aftershows, and P has become one of the most outstanding guitarists in the world, in the realm of guitarists on the big stage.

So go look up you tube for your Mark Knoplers, those are the ones that compete on this level, and lets have a proper thread on Prince for once
[Edited 12/22/07 23:07pm]