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Thread started 10/17/02 8:49pm

DMSR

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What if Prurple RAin came out in a diffenet year?

I was always bummed that Prince's shining moment had to compete with some of the best albums of all time that year- Thriller, Synchronicity, Let's Dance, Like a Virgin and Born in the USA. Sure it was a great time for music fans but if Purple Rain was a year earlier or later, he would have taken home all the Grammy's and he would have been even huger. What a year that was for music. I still listen to all those albums almost 20 years later!
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Reply #1 posted 10/17/02 8:53pm

Natasha

It should have come out in 1986 that year there was Nothing going on. Prince should have waited 1 year to release his Masterpiece and he would have cleaned up. Thriller wasn't over in 1984-85. Prince just was 1 year too Early. Always ahead of the times.
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Reply #2 posted 10/17/02 8:54pm

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DMSR said:

I was always bummed that Prince's shining moment had to compete with some of the best albums of all time that year- Thriller, Synchronicity, Let's Dance, Like a Virgin and Born in the USA. Sure it was a great time for music fans but if Purple Rain was a year earlier or later, he would have taken home all the Grammy's and he would have been even huger. What a year that was for music. I still listen to all those albums almost 20 years later!


The only thing that mattered in 1984 was the holy triumverate of Purple Rain, Born In The USA and Like A Virgin. After that, record sales of under 2 million would not be the blocklbusters they once were. Other years had major sales but 1984 changed shit forever. Those three artists destroyed Journey, Styx...all the bland groups. Artist became larger than life that year, and those three were the largest and the litmus test that all other subsequent artists had to live up to. There wil neva-eva be a year like 1984 again.
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Reply #3 posted 10/17/02 8:56pm

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Purple Rain came out at the perfect time. Who cares about the competition...it was number one for 6 fucking months in a row..in a year of The Cars, Lauper, The Fix, Billy Ocean, Ghostbusters, the olympics, Rock Me Amadeus...
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Reply #4 posted 10/17/02 8:59pm

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rdhull said:

Purple Rain came out at the perfect time. Who cares about the competition...it was number one for 6 fucking months in a row..in a year of The Cars, Lauper, The Fix, Billy Ocean, Ghostbusters, the olympics, Rock Me Amadeus...


I just think it would have been nice to hav him kick even more ass! I remember Bruc on the cover of Rolling Stone that year winning the Critics Poll with Prince also getting many votes, but any othe ryear and he would have won all of em. Awards don't matter, but he was a little overshadowed by the sheer brilliance of 1984.

Oh yea, forgot about VAN HALEN "1984"!!!
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Reply #5 posted 10/17/02 9:06pm

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DMSR said:

rdhull said:

Purple Rain came out at the perfect time. Who cares about the competition...it was number one for 6 fucking months in a row..in a year of The Cars, Lauper, The Fix, Billy Ocean, Ghostbusters, the olympics, Rock Me Amadeus...


I just think it would have been nice to hav him kick even more ass! I remember Bruc on the cover of Rolling Stone that year winning the Critics Poll with Prince also getting many votes, but any othe ryear and he would have won all of em. Awards don't matter, but he was a little overshadowed by the sheer brilliance of 1984.

Oh yea, forgot about VAN HALEN "1984"!!!


Prince won the critics poll in RS for 1999 in 1983. I see what youre saying abut if it was only him that year...but in my eyes,it WAS only him. He wasnt over shadowed..he had EVERYONE eating out of the palm of his hands..everyone except Greg Tate.
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Reply #6 posted 10/17/02 9:07pm

Natasha

1986 or 1987 and granted he would have!
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Reply #7 posted 10/17/02 9:16pm

mistermaxxx

it wouldn't have had the same Impact IMHO.He got a Big Swing with the "MichaelMania" Backlash IMHO.the timing was Right&Couldn't have really mattered at any other time IMHO.I say this Because Prince Himself Seemed Bored with it after a while.but Come On not really because that Only Happens Once in a Career if you are even Half Way Lucky?
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Reply #8 posted 10/17/02 9:19pm

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DMSR said:

I was always bummed that Prince's shining moment had to compete with some of the best albums of all time that year- Thriller,

1982 album.

Synchronicity,

1983 album.

Let's Dance,

1983 album.

Like a Virgin

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and Born in the USA.

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Don't take it personally, I'm picky when it comes to years albums were released.

Sure it was a great time for music fans but if Purple Rain was a year earlier or later, he would have taken home all the Grammy's and he would have been even huger.

The backlash would have ended up more intense.
This post not for the wimp contingent. All whiny wusses avert your eyes.
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Reply #9 posted 10/17/02 9:24pm

NikkiDarling

MJ won an armload of Grammy Awards and American Music Awards for Thriller, but Prince did take home the big price -- an Oscar for Purple Rain. I know that he is very proud of that award. It sits in a prominent display case at Paisley Park.
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Reply #10 posted 10/17/02 9:27pm

RunAmok

#1 for half a year
despite competition
Prince reigned over all
best album and single of 84
even an academy award
in any other year
with less comeptition
¿where would the respect be then?
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Reply #11 posted 10/17/02 9:27pm

DMSR

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Supernova said:

DMSR said:

I was always bummed that Prince's shining moment had to compete with some of the best albums of all time that year- Thriller,

1982 album.

Synchronicity,

1983 album.

Let's Dance,

1983 album.

Like a Virgin

nod

and Born in the USA.

nod

Don't take it personally, I'm picky when it comes to years albums were released.

Sure it was a great time for music fans but if Purple Rain was a year earlier or later, he would have taken home all the Grammy's and he would have been even huger.

The backlash would have ended up more intense.


I'm not just talking release dates, but these albums were all on the charts then, competing for airplay and MTV rotation.

http://www.80sxchange.com...s/1984.htm

http://infoplease.lycos.c...50934.html
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Reply #12 posted 10/17/02 9:34pm

Natasha

I'll tell ya what I hate. Well when Prince won his AMA awards in 1985 why did Jackson and Ritchie have to Steal his Thunder and Ruin his night with WE ARE THE WORLD? And why in the Hell couldn't he Celebrate his Win with Wendy without being called a Creep for not doing the sessions? Couldn't he Celebrate at a Club? He promised them a song well why was he made to look shitty and like he had no Heart for USA for AFRICA? That wasn't Fair and the Academy and Dick Clark and Michael and All Owe Prince Big Apologies and he Deserves not only a Star on Hollywood's Walk of Fame and at least 1 block before Jackson cause of his Games which I don't like. He Deserves a Lifetime Achievement of Some kind and Michael should really stop his War against Prince and stop naming his kids Prince. That's RUDE! Nobody knows what went down between Prince and Jackson but they should quit the Bullshit Already! And Prince Michael quit the Jehovahs and why was that? Investigate ! Don't be a Puppet please be Free!
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Reply #13 posted 10/17/02 9:36pm

Supernova

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DMSR said:

Supernova said:

DMSR said:

I was always bummed that Prince's shining moment had to compete with some of the best albums of all time that year- Thriller,

1982 album.

Synchronicity,

1983 album.

Let's Dance,

1983 album.

Like a Virgin

nod

and Born in the USA.

nod

Don't take it personally, I'm picky when it comes to years albums were released.

Sure it was a great time for music fans but if Purple Rain was a year earlier or later, he would have taken home all the Grammy's and he would have been even huger.

The backlash would have ended up more intense.


I'm not just talking release dates, but these albums were all on the charts then, competing for airplay and MTV rotation.

http://www.80sxchange.com...s/1984.htm

http://infoplease.lycos.c...50934.html

True, but you brought up Grammys so I thought you meant albums competing for album of the year award, which if you go technically by release date PR would only be competing with "Like A Virgin" (I don't even remember if it was nominated) and "Born In The USA" of those you named. Actually, Lionel Richie's "Can't Slow Down" won the album of the year award for 1984. And that's the safest album of them all, really. Grammy voters suck.

Or was it Tina Turner who won it that year?

Anywho...ill

I just checked: it was Lionel Richie.
[This message was edited Thu Oct 17 21:41:23 PDT 2002 by Supernova]
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Reply #14 posted 10/17/02 9:53pm

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The title of this thread makes me wanna break out my red pen... razz
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Reply #15 posted 10/17/02 10:33pm

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CalhounSq said:

The title of this thread makes me wanna break out my red pen... razz



I was thinking blue pencil. You a teacher?
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Reply #16 posted 10/17/02 10:36pm

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PFunkjazz said:

CalhounSq said:

The title of this thread makes me wanna break out my red pen... razz



I was thinking blue pencil. You a teacher?


Nah, I just love the shit outta spellcheck... :X
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Reply #17 posted 10/17/02 11:15pm

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Oh man, "Prurple Rain"?
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Reply #18 posted 10/18/02 4:14am

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And what if Prince never wore high heels?
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Reply #19 posted 10/18/02 4:56am

DavidEye

As far as Awards go,I think Prince really got a raw deal.His '1999' album should have won several major awards,but it lost out to Michael's 'Thriller',which took home 8 Grammys in one night.Then,a year later,Prince's 'Purple Rain' should have won MOST of the major awards for 1984,but it lost out to Lionel Ritchie's 'Can't Slow Down'.It won a few awards,but an album like 'Purple Rain' should have DOMINATED the Grammys (the same way 'Thriller' did the year before).

I think the problem was,the competition was so fierce back then (1982-84) and there were ALOT of landmark albums being released.Those years were the most commercially successful period for not only Prince,but also MJ,Lionel,Tina Turner,Bruce Springsteen and Madonna.

I also think the Grammys did Prince wrong by not giving him the "Album Of The Year" award in 1987 for 'SOTT'.U2 won this award,and I think Prince was a little angry about this.
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Reply #20 posted 10/18/02 4:58am

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DavidEye said:

Then,a year later,Prince's 'Purple Rain' should have won MOST of the major awards for 1984,but it lost out to Lionel Ritchie's 'Can't Slow Down'.


Lionel fucking Ritchie... shake
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Reply #21 posted 10/18/02 5:00am

DavidEye

CalhounSq said:

DavidEye said:

Then,a year later,Prince's 'Purple Rain' should have won MOST of the major awards for 1984,but it lost out to Lionel Ritchie's 'Can't Slow Down'.


Lionel fucking Ritchie... shake



Hey!! 'Can't Slow Down' is a great album smile

"We were Running With The Night
Playing in the shadows
Just you and I
Til' the morning light"
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Reply #22 posted 10/18/02 5:01am

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gooeythehamster said:

And what if Prince never wore high heels?


And what if Prince never got rid of his fro? fro
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Reply #23 posted 10/18/02 5:02am

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DavidEye said:

Hey!! 'Can't Slow Down' is a great album smile

"We were Running With The Night
Playing in the shadows
Just you and I
Til' the morning light"


When's the last time you cracked a Lionel Ritchie album? NOT w/ the Commodores - a solo album???

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bored I'm waiting...



razz
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Reply #24 posted 10/18/02 5:04am

DavidEye

Well...I'm waiting for the re-mastered version of 'Can't Slow Down' to come out wink
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Reply #25 posted 10/18/02 5:04am

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DavidEye said:

Well...I'm waiting for the re-mastered version of 'Can't Slow Down' to come out wink


LOLOL!!! Yea right!!!
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Reply #26 posted 10/18/02 5:05am

DavidEye

btw,do you remember seeing Sheila E. in Lionel's "Running With The Night" video? She's the lady in the red dress that he serenades at that wedding!!
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Reply #27 posted 10/18/02 5:08am

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DavidEye said:

btw,do you remember seeing Sheila E. in Lionel's "Running With The Night" video? She's the lady in the red dress that he serenades at that wedding!!


Yup, I remember. So glad she came out & did her own thing. It's always fun to see people you "know" in stuff they did before they became who you "know", you know? confused

Do you remember Crapples in the "The Other Woman" video by Ray Parker Junior??? LOLOL... that shit is hilarious!
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Reply #28 posted 10/18/02 5:09am

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We just hijacked this thread, reminds me of the old days...
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Reply #29 posted 10/18/02 5:12am

DavidEye

CalhounSq said:

DavidEye said:

btw,do you remember seeing Sheila E. in Lionel's "Running With The Night" video? She's the lady in the red dress that he serenades at that wedding!!


Yup, I remember. So glad she came out & did her own thing. It's always fun to see people you "know" in stuff they did before they became who you "know", you know? confused

Do you remember Crapples in the "The Other Woman" video by Ray Parker Junior??? LOLOL... that shit is hilarious!



Who is "Crapples"??
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