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Thread started 12/07/07 7:16am

dseann

Is Prince a recovering addict/alcoholic?

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."
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Reply #1 posted 12/07/07 8:45am

sexxydancer

That was probably written 4 some of his addicted/alcoholic employees. lol
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Reply #2 posted 12/07/07 12:49pm

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dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.

'Calhoun Square' explains his agoraphobic tendencies.

He suffers from arachnophobia: 'The Word'..

He considered not performing 'Purple Rain' due to hydrophobia

And of course he's been an acrophobic causing him to give up wearing heels regularly.
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Reply #3 posted 12/07/07 1:04pm

dseann

langebleu said:

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.

'Calhoun Square' explains his agoraphobic tendencies.

He suffers from arachnophobia: 'The Word'..

He considered not performing 'Purple Rain' due to hydrophobia

And of course he's been an acrophobic causing him to give up wearing heels regularly.

eek eek eek falloff falloff falloff
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Reply #4 posted 12/07/07 1:11pm

wlcm2thdwn

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

If you've ever read the Bible you would know the answer. No Prince is not a recovering addict but you must be since you know all about it, confused
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Reply #5 posted 12/07/07 1:21pm

dseann

wlcm2thdwn said:

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

If you've ever read the Bible you would know the answer. No Prince is not a recovering addict but you must be since you know all about it, confused


ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?
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Reply #6 posted 12/07/07 1:22pm

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dseann said:

wlcm2thdwn said:


If you've ever read the Bible you would know the answer. No Prince is not a recovering addict but you must be since you know all about it, confused


ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?


That was a good answer to a snide remark.

My take is that Prince is not either a recovering alcoholic or addict. He's not known to be a drunk or a drug user.
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Reply #7 posted 12/07/07 1:28pm

dseann

RodeoSchro said:

dseann said:



ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?


That was a good answer to a snide remark.

My take is that Prince is not either a recovering alcoholic or addict. He's not known to be a drunk or a drug user.


I guess it's just where my head is at right now. there are more references which can be made throughout the song, and I found it very interesting.
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Reply #8 posted 12/07/07 1:50pm

darrenj

The 12 steps are spirital. So it would make a lot of sence that a lot of Prince's music could be identified with it.

Has Prince taken drugs? Maybe.

Has Prince ever been drunk? Very likely.

Is Prince a recovering addict? I don;t believe so

In my opinion, I think he has probably had bad reactions to both drink and maybe drugs. So he chooses not to take either.
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Reply #9 posted 12/07/07 1:55pm

NDRU

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Prince is addicted to Prince
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Reply #10 posted 12/07/07 4:39pm

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langebleu said:

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.

'Calhoun Square' explains his agoraphobic tendencies.

He suffers from arachnophobia: 'The Word'..

He considered not performing 'Purple Rain' due to hydrophobia

And of course he's been an acrophobic causing him to give up wearing heels regularly.


don't forget he's also xenophobic since he has a song called xenophobia

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Reply #11 posted 12/07/07 4:54pm

johno2

darrenj said:

The 12 steps are spirital. So it would make a lot of sence that a lot of Prince's music could be identified with it.

Has Prince taken drugs? Maybe.

Has Prince ever been drunk? Very likely.

Is Prince a recovering addict? I don;t believe so

In my opinion, I think he has probably had bad reactions to both drink and maybe drugs. So he chooses not to take either.


with the rumours about why he didnt realse the black album makes u think he proberly did do drugs
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Reply #12 posted 12/07/07 5:25pm

xplnyrslf

There's been complaints, from musicians who worked with Prince during highly productive years, who would be expected to be up for a day or two without sleep, recording music, and were exhausted. That's not natural. Just a saying. eek
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Reply #13 posted 12/07/07 5:33pm

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dseann said:

wlcm2thdwn said:


If you've ever read the Bible you would know the answer. No Prince is not a recovering addict but you must be since you know all about it, confused


ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?



that is wlcm2thdwn, always has the most inspiring posts here, cant see the wood from the trees but can lift us all up with replies that even a 2 yr old would be ashamed of, but what can you do when you live in a cardboard box..... simply let the hate out on those around you wink
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #14 posted 12/07/07 5:56pm

xplnyrslf

Whitnail said:

dseann said:



ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?



that is wlcm2thdwn, always has the most inspiring posts here, cant see the wood from the trees but can lift us all up with replies that even a 2 yr old would be ashamed of, but what can you do when you live in a cardboard box..... simply let the hate out on those around you wink


Forest for the trees....."Can't see the forest, for the trees" is the saying.
Unless this is a new spin? Oh! Woods. The English might say that.lol
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Reply #15 posted 12/07/07 6:24pm

GiGi319

langebleu said:


It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.

'Calhoun Square' explains his agoraphobic tendencies.

He suffers from arachnophobia: 'The Word'..

He considered not performing 'Purple Rain' due to hydrophobia

And of course he's been an acrophobic causing him to give up wearing heels regularly.


falloff Thanks, langebleu for your words of wisdom!
love the one who is Love!
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Reply #16 posted 12/07/07 6:33pm

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NDRU said:

Prince is addicted to Prince


hahaa, true! Prince has an infatuation with himself and takes himself too seriously sometimes.

Prince seems to drink a lot in Under the Cherry Moon, but I don't think he was really into drink or drugs, music is his high. My interpretation of The Ladder is that it's about spiritual attainment.
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Reply #17 posted 12/07/07 6:57pm

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Prince just suffers from anxiety..trying to accomplish as much spiritual work as He can while He is still living...Bless his heart.
"The Lion Sleeps Tonight...
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Reply #18 posted 12/07/07 7:10pm

Imago

I think Prince avoided alcohol most of his adult life because it contains dihydrogen monoxide, right?

Who's with me on this?!? confuse
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Reply #19 posted 12/07/07 7:34pm

Flowerz

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."


it's Bible related ..
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Reply #20 posted 12/07/07 11:08pm

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Quote from Jon Ewing's book 'Prince':

"Like all truly great artists, Prince is sick."
Melody Maker

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langebleu said:

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.

'Calhoun Square' explains his agoraphobic tendencies.

He suffers from arachnophobia: 'The Word'..

He considered not performing 'Purple Rain' due to hydrophobia

And of course he's been an acrophobic causing him to give up wearing heels regularly.
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Reply #21 posted 12/08/07 1:16am

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langebleu said:


It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.


you are a complete idiot. the song is clearly about him having a fear of walking under ladders. you see, prince is very superstitious. you know how on the sott dvd, during housequake, he says "ain't that a bitch? i think it's -- " and then suddenly stops and yells "CAT!!!" and looks around, alarmed? it is because prince has just seen a black cat run across the stage in front of him, which he thinks will bring him bad luck
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Reply #22 posted 12/08/07 4:50am

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theghostoftonym said:

langebleu said:


It's absolutely true, Prince is an alcoholic, 'The Ladder' proves it.


you are a complete idiot. the song is clearly about him having a fear of walking under ladders. you see, prince is very superstitious. you know how on the sott dvd, during housequake, he says "ain't that a bitch? i think it's -- " and then suddenly stops and yells "CAT!!!" and looks around, alarmed? it is because prince has just seen a black cat run across the stage in front of him, which he thinks will bring him bad luck

I stand corrected - I must have confused alcoholism with ailurophobia
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Reply #23 posted 12/08/07 5:09am

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on a normal day, he's clean.
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Reply #24 posted 12/08/07 5:32am

Funkyalien

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on a normal day, he's clean.


what's a normal day?
Funky alien
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Reply #25 posted 12/08/07 5:43am

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Whitnail said:

dseann said:



ever counseled anybody less fortunate?
ever listened/truly listened to another human being's problems?



that is wlcm2thdwn, always has the most inspiring posts here, cant see the wood from the trees but can lift us all up with replies that even a 2 yr old would be ashamed of, but what can you do when you live in a cardboard box..... simply let the hate out on those around you wink


lol lol

In answer to the question, as others have said, the song is spiritual. smile
RIP, Prince. A legend has left us, and you will be forever missed. cry

"She probably found her vagina". lol
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Reply #26 posted 12/08/07 6:14am

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wlcm2thdwn said:

dseann said:

I've been listening to the lyrics of "The Ladder" and I don't know if anyone if familiar with a 12 step program, but the lyrics sound so alot like someone in recovery.

"Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul, the steps you take are no easy road but the reward is great for those who want to go...."

If you've ever read the Bible you would know the answer. No Prince is not a recovering addict but you must be since you know all about it, confused


Not a very nice reply wlcm2thdwn if they actually do know about it... The words 'open' and 'minded' can't be used with you or the word 'sympathy' eh!
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Reply #27 posted 12/08/07 6:16am

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xplnyrslf said:

There's been complaints, from musicians who worked with Prince during highly productive years, who would be expected to be up for a day or two without sleep, recording music, and were exhausted. That's not natural. Just a saying. eek


Yep I agree, although its known he likes to work at night. I think people are naive to think hes never drank or taken drugs.
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Reply #28 posted 12/08/07 11:15am

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xplnyrslf said:

There's been complaints, from musicians who worked with Prince during highly productive years, who would be expected to be up for a day or two without sleep, recording music, and were exhausted. That's not natural. Just a saying. eek


I know some people who don't sleep very much, and I don't think they're on drugs. But I don't think they're healthy or normal, either!
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Reply #29 posted 12/08/07 12:00pm

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There's some right bollocks written on this forum sometimes
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