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dorothy parker

Any one know who this women is??
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/07 1:38pm

KidaDynamite

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She's Pookie's sister, that's how he was able to get the job of keeping Prince's limo warm!! nod
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #2 posted 11/21/07 1:39pm

BobGeorge909

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a witty poet from the 30's or summin like that
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/07 1:40pm

NastradumasKid

KidaDynamite said:

She's Pookie's sister, that's how he was able to get the job of keeping Prince's limo warm!! nod



lol Man that's retarded Kida
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/07 1:49pm

KidaDynamite

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NastradumasKid said:

KidaDynamite said:

She's Pookie's sister, that's how he was able to get the job of keeping Prince's limo warm!! nod



lol Man that's retarded Kida


Well no one else was coming up with any plausible ideas so.....shrug lol
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #5 posted 11/21/07 1:59pm

364035

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/07 2:17pm

ToraToraDreams

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364035 said:

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!

He keeps his pants on so that he won't end up having sex w/her b/c he already has a girl. It was such a good expirience he goes back and tries it with his girl.
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/07 2:18pm

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Reply #8 posted 11/21/07 2:26pm

NastradumasKid

364035 said:

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!



I know right that was werid how he said he goes in the tub with clothes I never truly understood the how idea of this song.

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/07 3:05pm

IstenSzek

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NastradumasKid said:

364035 said:

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!



I know right that was werid how he said he goes in the tub with clothes I never truly understood the how idea of this song.

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee


he gets in the tub with her and keeps his clothes on because he's
got a girlfriend. he even says so in the song. what's there not 2
understand about that?

later, on his own, he recreates that experience, remembering that
day when he sat with dorothy in the bubble bath with his clothes
on and what a metaphysical change it brought to his state of mind
thus allowing him to gather his thoughts again and let go of all
the humbug in his head and in his life.

nod
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/07 3:48pm

Flowerz

ToraToraDreams said:

364035 said:

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!

He keeps his pants on so that he won't end up having sex w/her b/c he already has a girl. It was such a good expirience he goes back and tries it with his girl.

yah.. what she said ..


NastradumasKid said:

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee

.. (not sure about this, but) that song is about a girl with a mental disability ..supposedly an old classmate of Susan's ..(langebleu has the thread)
[Edited 11/21/07 15:48pm]
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Reply #11 posted 11/21/07 4:06pm

NastradumasKid

Flowerz said:[quote]

ToraToraDreams said:


yah.. what she said ..


NastradumasKid said:

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee

.. (not sure about this, but) that song is about a girl with a mental disability ..supposedly an old classmate of Susan's ..(langebleu has the thread)
[Edited 11/21/07 15:48pm]


eek eek mental disability where did you here that from??
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Reply #12 posted 11/21/07 4:21pm

ToraToraDreams

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NastradumasKid said:

Flowerz said:


.. (not sure about this, but) that song is about a girl with a mental disability ..supposedly an old classmate of Susan's ..(langebleu has the thread)
[Edited 11/21/07 15:48pm]


eek eek mental disability where did you here that from??

I think Mr.Nelson might have said it was about a "special" or "different" girl in a interview.
Luv the avi, by the way.
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/07 4:25pm

Rinluv

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Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #14 posted 11/21/07 4:27pm

Rinluv

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This is a funny thing. I recently found out that I have someone in my family named Dorothy Parker. lol
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/07 7:11pm

wlcm2thdwn

I don't know, Google her! confused
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/07 7:14pm

SirPsycho

BobGeorge909 said:

a witty poet from the 30's or summin like that


nod ...i've read some of her work...she's very nice
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Reply #17 posted 11/22/07 12:11am

364035

NastradumasKid said:

364035 said:

also why does he have a bubble bath with his clothes on?? i just dont get it, love it tho!!!



I know right that was werid how he said he goes in the tub with clothes I never truly understood the how idea of this song.

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee



yeah,i love the lyrics to that son tho starfish and coffee!! and i think its an ace song
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Reply #18 posted 11/22/07 12:20am

364035

IstenSzek said:

NastradumasKid said:




I know right that was werid how he said he goes in the tub with clothes I never truly understood the how idea of this song.

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee


he gets in the tub with her and keeps his clothes on because he's
got a girlfriend. he even says so in the song. what's there not 2
understand about that?

later, on his own, he recreates that experience, remembering that
day when he sat with dorothy in the bubble bath with his clothes
on and what a metaphysical change it brought to his state of mind
thus allowing him to gather his thoughts again and let go of all


Hi thanks, that explains it perfect, i had an idea it was pretty much to do with what you said, i love this song!!!

the humbug in his head and in his life.

nod
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Reply #19 posted 11/22/07 1:04am

vinx98

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This (and Starfish) Were unfinished demo's which were put in the album untouched as they were so perfect.

The way its sung and produced, I wouldnt be surprised if Prince made up the lyrics as he was creating the song..

He probably put a lot more effort into that exquisite bit of drum programming, the best you will ever hear and that GOD DAMN FUNKY bassline.. .Oh I alwayes wished there was an extended version of this so that bass line would just roll on forwever... but there wasnt sad
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Reply #20 posted 11/22/07 10:49am

aliuk1

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IstenSzek said:


he gets in the tub with her and keeps his clothes on because he's
got a girlfriend. he even says so in the song. what's there not 2
understand about that?


And then the next lines say:
"The phone rang, and she said
Whoevers calling cant be as cute as u
Right then I knew I was through
(dorothy parker was cool)
My pants where wet, they came off
But she didnt see the movie
Cuz she hadnt read the book first
Instead she pretended she was blind
An affliction brought on by a witchs curse"

I've always wondered about the exact meaning, but his pants definately come off!
Maybe she just didn't look at him naked?
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Reply #21 posted 11/22/07 2:39pm

IstenSzek

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aliuk1 said:

IstenSzek said:


he gets in the tub with her and keeps his clothes on because he's
got a girlfriend. he even says so in the song. what's there not 2
understand about that?


And then the next lines say:
"The phone rang, and she said
Whoevers calling cant be as cute as u
Right then I knew I was through
(dorothy parker was cool)
My pants where wet, they came off
But she didnt see the movie
Cuz she hadnt read the book first
Instead she pretended she was blind
An affliction brought on by a witchs curse"

I've always wondered about the exact meaning, but his pants definately come off!
Maybe she just didn't look at him naked?


ah, you're right. i kind of forgot about that for a second. i'm sure you're
right - she just refused to do anything sexual probably.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #22 posted 11/22/07 3:20pm

wildgoldenhone
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IstenSzek said:

later, on his own, he recreates that experience, remembering that
day when he sat with dorothy in the bubble bath with his clothes
on and what a metaphysical change it brought to his state of mind
thus allowing him to gather his thoughts again and let go of all
the humbug in his head and in his life
.


IstenSzek said:

aliuk1 said:



And then the next lines say:
"The phone rang, and she said
Whoevers calling cant be as cute as u
Right then I knew I was through
(dorothy parker was cool)
My pants where wet, they came off
But she didnt see the movie
Cuz she hadnt read the book first
Instead she pretended she was blind
An affliction brought on by a witchs curse"

I've always wondered about the exact meaning, but his pants definately come off!
Maybe she just didn't look at him naked?


ah, you're right. i kind of forgot about that for a second. i'm sure you're
right - she just refused to do anything sexual probably.



Thanks for the interesting comments!

Although I'm a little confused now... your earlier post seemed to make sense but in the next paragraph he takes them off?

So does that mean that after the moment of clarity, he decided he wanted to have sex with Dorothy (but she didn't)?


(And what movie/book is that referring to?)
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Reply #23 posted 11/22/07 3:26pm

IstenSzek

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wildgoldenhoney said:



Thanks for the interesting comments!

Although I'm a little confused now... your earlier post seemed to make sense but in the next paragraph he takes them off?

So does that mean that after the moment of clarity, he decided he wanted to have sex with Dorothy (but she didn't)?


(And what movie/book is that referring to?)




she didn't see the movie (didn't have sex with him) because she hadn't
read the book first (hadn't got to know him as a person with all his
stories and different sides yet, on a deeper level) so therefore she
just pretended she didn't see what he was doing and acted like there
was nothing going on but sharing a bubblebath and listening to Joni.

biggrin

i think him taking off his pants after a while kinda tells us that he
was still in doubt as to how to handle the situation. but since she
didn't respond and told him "no meaningless sex, you're involved and
we don't know each other at all" it showed him another side of what
encounters like his and dorothy's can be like.

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[Edited 11/22/07 15:27pm]
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #24 posted 11/22/07 3:35pm

wildgoldenhone
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IstenSzek said:

wildgoldenhoney said:



Thanks for the interesting comments!

Although I'm a little confused now... your earlier post seemed to make sense but in the next paragraph he takes them off?

So does that mean that after the moment of clarity, he decided he wanted to have sex with Dorothy (but she didn't)?


(And what movie/book is that referring to?)




she didn't see the movie (didn't have sex with him) because she hadn't
read the book first (hadn't got to know him as a person with all his
stories and different sides yet, on a deeper level) so therefore she
just pretended she didn't see what he was doing and acted like there
was nothing going on but sharing a bubblebath and listening to Joni.

biggrin

i think him taking off his pants after a while kinda tells us that he
was still in doubt as to how to handle the situation. but since she
didn't respond and told him "no meaningless sex, you're involved and
we don't know each other at all" it showed him another side of what
encounters like his and dorothy's can be like.

edit
[Edited 11/22/07 15:27pm]


Thanks again! You're good at interpreting the lyrics! Are you a long-time fan?
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Reply #25 posted 11/22/07 3:35pm

wildgoldenhone
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Reply #26 posted 11/22/07 3:37pm

IstenSzek

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wildgoldenhoney said:

IstenSzek said:





she didn't see the movie (didn't have sex with him) because she hadn't
read the book first (hadn't got to know him as a person with all his
stories and different sides yet, on a deeper level) so therefore she
just pretended she didn't see what he was doing and acted like there
was nothing going on but sharing a bubblebath and listening to Joni.

biggrin

i think him taking off his pants after a while kinda tells us that he
was still in doubt as to how to handle the situation. but since she
didn't respond and told him "no meaningless sex, you're involved and
we don't know each other at all" it showed him another side of what
encounters like his and dorothy's can be like.

edit
[Edited 11/22/07 15:27pm]


Thanks again! You're good at interpreting the lyrics! Are you a long-time fan?


well i've been listening to this song for 18 years now biggrin and it's one of
my fav prince tunes.

i've always been amazed at the lyrics in this song since they're so very
different from his early lyrics in which women are always the bad ones,
the ones that did prince wrong and cheat or sleep around etc. and here,
with dorothy parker it's the complete opposite.

but not just that, the complete lyrics are a work of art imo. very cool
song.

thumbs up!
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #27 posted 11/22/07 3:50pm

wildgoldenhone
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IstenSzek said:

wildgoldenhoney said:



Thanks again! You're good at interpreting the lyrics! Are you a long-time fan?


well i've been listening to this song for 18 years now biggrin and it's one of
my fav prince tunes.

i've always been amazed at the lyrics in this song since they're so very
different from his early lyrics in which women are always the bad ones,
the ones that did prince wrong and cheat or sleep around etc. and here,
with dorothy parker it's the complete opposite.

but not just that, the complete lyrics are a work of art imo. very cool
song.

thumbs up!


I guess 18 years is a lot of time for you to ponder the lyrics and the meaning since this is a favorite tune of yours.

And with the way you described it, it is a work of art, poetically, since it has a deeper meaning than just what someone like me would see on the surface.

Is this about Susannah by the way? Or better question, how does this translate into his real life at the time? I mean, what was going on at the time that pinpoints who it was about? Or is the girl he was seeing Susannah?

Iddanno, got an inquiry mind today. razz
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Reply #28 posted 11/22/07 5:16pm

joshmos

YOU SHOULD ALL KNOW WHO THE REAL DOROTHY PARKER WAS!

I know that Prince was just taking aspects of the real woman and injecting his own fantasy upon the legend, but for those who are too lazy to google, she was one of the most famous poets and writers of the early 20th century and was a memeber of the famed Round Table at The Algonquin Hotel in New York City.

She was an alcoholic and her writing was some of the most bitingly dark, funny, witty writngs ever! Look up "Suicide" or PLEASE see Mrs. Parker & the Viscious Circle, one of my all time favorite films, which is her life story and played to perfection by Jennifer Jason Leigh!! Runa nd rent or buy it now!!!
Purplehead
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Reply #29 posted 11/22/07 5:28pm

dseann

IstenSzek said:[quote]

NastradumasKid said:




I know right that was werid how he said he goes in the tub with clothes I never truly understood the how idea of this song.

Almost as weird as Starfish and Coffee


he gets in the tub with her and keeps his clothes on because he's
got a girlfriend. he even says so in the song. what's there not 2
understand about that?

later, on his own, he recreates that experience, remembering that
day when he sat with dorothy in the bubble bath with his clothes
on and what a metaphysical change it brought to his state of mind
thus allowing him to gather his thoughts again and let go of all
the humbug in his head and in his life.


WTF?


eek
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