ThreadBare said: First off, it's an incredibly ignorant and immature thing to say about a person.
Second, it's easy to see why people suspect that Prince is, at the very least, bi. Here's someone who has spent the bulk of his career in women's clothing and makeup and singing in a "high voice." Prince grew up in a somewhat religious -- though apparently unstable -- home and continues affiliate with a faith that certainly doesn't publicly endorse a liberal sexual point of view. So, it's not a stretch for people -- regardless of their familiarity or unfamiliarity of their work -- to consider him, at least, a closeted gay man. What I've never understood is the reaction of some of his fans to defend him and to even say that he's not gay. We really don't know. Well said. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: ToraToraDreams said: You could traumatize the heck out of her w/ all his songs about women. That'd prove your point. Wait. How old is she? Maybe a bad idea. Or, compare his list of girlfriends to his list of boyfriends. Prince does and says whatever he wants. Why would someone with those kinds of balls hide being gay? I'd be dissapointed if he was too scared to say, The Prince I know ain't scared of sh.t. The Prince we know is scared of plenty, and that's a fact. I'm not saying he's gay, but if he were so inclined, I doubt he'd be public about it. The man is deeply religious, was raised in a conservative faith and is now a member of a different conservative faith. The fanbase likes to think of their Hero as some voice in the wilderness for sexual and social freedom. It was truer back in the day than it is now. But even in the glory days I doubt he was anywhere near as free as his fans expected him to be. Y tú, amiga. | |
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just do what i do if somebody says that. agree with them and then call them gay for knowing about him. funnily enough it stops most people in their trax... RIP 1958-2016 Prince RIP 1947-2016 David Bowie | |
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dseann said: VenusBlingBling said: I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."
People must be blind and deaf. Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince? I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are. And his gay partner/s is, are, was, or were????? [Edited 12/3/07 13:11pm] In the same place as his dick. In a private place hidden from the public's eyesight. I've never seen his dick either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: In the same place as his dick. In a private place hidden from the public's eyesight. I've never seen his dick either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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ThreadBare said: meow85 said: The Prince we know is scared of plenty, and that's a fact. I'm not saying he's gay, but if he were so inclined, I doubt he'd be public about it. The man is deeply religious, was raised in a conservative faith and is now a member of a different conservative faith. The fanbase likes to think of their Hero as some voice in the wilderness for sexual and social freedom. It was truer back in the day than it is now. But even in the glory days I doubt he was anywhere near as free as his fans expected him to be. Y tú, amiga. It would be just gut-wrenchingly sad to me, if I were to find out that someone who had given so many people the courage to be themselves, wasn't capable of doing it himself. I wouldn't be angry or let down if I found out Prince had been fibbing, like some fans say they would. I'd just feel very sad for him, I think. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I tell everybody: "that he's the poster child for a Metrosexual. Besides if he is bisexual,s o what? That's the "it" word for the 21st century isn't it? I mean look at you in those hip hugging jeans. Your mouth says woman but your butt says enter me."
That usually get people defending their sexuality and completely drops the discussion. _________________________________________
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VenusBlingBling said: "Prince, isn't he like gay?"
Just tell him he is the smartest straight guy ever, wearing high heels. Tell him all the women at a Prince concert drip becuz of him and that he only dates Puerto Rican looking teenage girls. That normally shuts them up. [Edited 12/6/07 10:21am] | |
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PRINCE IS NOT GAY.....anymore he might have been gay with a few people and they are some of the luckiest people alive, but gayness is so not his scene. He can pull off stilettos as a guy, even some women can't do that. and scince guys wish they could wear those stilettos but wouldn't be excepted in them they call him gay. The falsetto has nothing to do with it. It is the heels issue. | |
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vainandy said: In the same place as his dick. In a private place hidden from the public's eyesight. I've never seen his dick either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In the world we live in now, this elusive gay partner or partners would have come forward with their stories already, trying to get paid for interviews or singing some huge book deal letting out all the details. Not even a bogus attempt has been made yet. Don't you find that strange if the rumors were true? | |
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I always wanted Prince to be straight, which I still think he is. I loved the fact that him dressing the way he did and him being straight behind it fucked with peoples heads. I loved the contradiction of the man. Now, I don't care. As a gay man, I sure don't want anyone saying "Eeew" to me cause I'm as much a man as the next straight guy. So if Prince is, then welcome to the family. [Edited 12/7/07 6:12am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: I always wanted Prince to be straight, which I still think he is. I loved the fact that him dressing the way he did and him being straight behind it fucked with peoples heads. I loved the contradiction of the man. Now, I don't care. As a gay man, I sure don't want anyone saying "Eeew" to me cause I'm as much a man as the next straight guy. So if Prince is, then welcome to the family.
[Edited 12/7/07 6:12am] I honestly don't give a flying fuck if he is or isn't either. But I'm sick of people rushing to judgment. Give the facts a chance to come out(if indeed there are any) before labeling then man. I'm straight and if Prince did "come out" I wouldn't feel any less about him. But people who try to label him as being gay are just doing so for some perverse opportunity to ridicule and insult him. Thus,the 'eeeew. Narrow minded motherfuckers they are. | |
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dseann said: vainandy said: In the same place as his dick. In a private place hidden from the public's eyesight. I've never seen his dick either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In the world we live in now, this elusive gay partner or partners would have come forward with their stories already, trying to get paid for interviews or singing some huge book deal letting out all the details. Not even a bogus attempt has been made yet. Don't you find that strange if the rumors were true? Not at all, actually. For someone with a reputation of getting around, Prince has also had remarkably few ex-girlfriends and -wives come forward with stories about the man either, and those that have haven't exactly been horrific or salacious, either. If the oft-repeated rumour about P. making his lovers sign confidentiality agreements is true, that'd be enough to shut up most people. And if not? Maybe he just stays on better terms with his exes than he lets on publicly. I've heard it said by people who've worked with him that as difficult as Prince can be, he has a way of making people like him, anyways. Besides all that, what would be the motivation for someone to come forward announcing their secret gay affair with Prince? Money? Most of the people who aren't fans and a good number of those who are already think he's gay anyways, so it's not as if the revelation would be a shocker or make headlines. He's not a big star in the way the current tabloid darlings are, so his every move isn't covered the way other celebrities' are. Spite? That seems to happen more in the case of politicians who were vocally anti-gay rather than pop stars known to attract queer-friendly fans. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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dseann said: purplecam said: I always wanted Prince to be straight, which I still think he is. I loved the fact that him dressing the way he did and him being straight behind it fucked with peoples heads. I loved the contradiction of the man. Now, I don't care. As a gay man, I sure don't want anyone saying "Eeew" to me cause I'm as much a man as the next straight guy. So if Prince is, then welcome to the family.
[Edited 12/7/07 6:12am] I honestly don't give a flying fuck if he is or isn't either. But I'm sick of people rushing to judgment. Give the facts a chance to come out(if indeed there are any) before labeling then man. I'm straight and if Prince did "come out" I wouldn't feel any less about him. But people who try to label him as being gay are just doing so for some perverse opportunity to ridicule and insult him. Thus,the 'eeeew. Narrow minded motherfuckers they are. And what would you say to the fans who think he's not as hetero as he says? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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It really doesn't matter to me one bit if he's straight or gay. It is essentially a non-issue, especially with musicians! | |
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meow85 said: dseann said: In the world we live in now, this elusive gay partner or partners would have come forward with their stories already, trying to get paid for interviews or singing some huge book deal letting out all the details. Not even a bogus attempt has been made yet. Don't you find that strange if the rumors were true? Not at all, actually. For someone with a reputation of getting around, Prince has also had remarkably few ex-girlfriends and -wives come forward with stories about the man either, and those that have haven't exactly been horrific or salacious, either. If the oft-repeated rumour about P. making his lovers sign confidentiality agreements is true, that'd be enough to shut up most people. And if not? Maybe he just stays on better terms with his exes than he lets on publicly. I've heard it said by people who've worked with him that as difficult as Prince can be, he has a way of making people like him, anyways. Besides all that, what would be the motivation for someone to come forward announcing their secret gay affair with Prince? Money? Most of the people who aren't fans and a good number of those who are already think he's gay anyways, so it's not as if the revelation would be a shocker or make headlines. He's not a big star in the way the current tabloid darlings are, so his every move isn't covered the way other celebrities' are. Spite? That seems to happen more in the case of politicians who were vocally anti-gay rather than pop stars known to attract queer-friendly fans. Money, fifteen minutes of fame, a book deal..... | |
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meow85 said: dseann said: I honestly don't give a flying fuck if he is or isn't either. But I'm sick of people rushing to judgment. Give the facts a chance to come out(if indeed there are any) before labeling then man. I'm straight and if Prince did "come out" I wouldn't feel any less about him. But people who try to label him as being gay are just doing so for some perverse opportunity to ridicule and insult him. Thus,the 'eeeew. Narrow minded motherfuckers they are. And what would you say to the fans who think he's not as hetero as he says? At times he appears to be extremely fagatious but I don't take that to mean he's gay. I think he's very in touch with his "Camile" side and there's nothing wrong with that. | |
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DreamyPopRoyalty said: Flowerz said: *i just cant believe all the things people say .. Controversy Am I Black or White .. Am I Straight or Gay? .. Controversy* Prince told us that.. they've been thinking that way about him since 1980 and before true enough... It's unrelated to this topic completely... but that makes me ask this question. I wonder what Prince thinks of people who think of him as this musical genius who's an enigma wrapped in a riddle... does he think we're making too much of him? Does he think we're thinking too much and saying he's more than he is? Prince will probably just say to that, "I'm just a man who loves to make music and loves music. In fact, I am music. There's all there is to know." Prince really does raise a lot of questions. Makes me wonder if any other person on this planet can make us raise so many questions. If the ignorants (my term for people just like this who say the title of this thread and then some) would take the time to get to know his music the way we all have... they'd eventually drop their prejudices and cruel words and start to embrace him the way we all do. But because of how the media protrays him and because he is out of the ordinary, it's just sad that so many people aren't willing to give him that chance. Prince can surprise you on a daily basis, that's something the ignorants will never know/enjoy Yea, and after that we'd all move to Fantasy Land and live happily ever after. ... You know, not everybody likes Prince. That's just the way it is and that's the way it's gonna be. Some people just don't dig his music no matter what. Also, most people are just casual music listeners, they would never 'embrace' Prince the way some of the folks around here do It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.
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Christaro said: Just kidding. | |
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RodeoSchro said: Just tell them that Prince is obviously a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
That way everyone is right. | |
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DANGEROUSx said: RodeoSchro said: Just tell them that Prince is obviously a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
That way everyone is right. co- | |
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dseann said: meow85 said: Not at all, actually. For someone with a reputation of getting around, Prince has also had remarkably few ex-girlfriends and -wives come forward with stories about the man either, and those that have haven't exactly been horrific or salacious, either. If the oft-repeated rumour about P. making his lovers sign confidentiality agreements is true, that'd be enough to shut up most people. And if not? Maybe he just stays on better terms with his exes than he lets on publicly. I've heard it said by people who've worked with him that as difficult as Prince can be, he has a way of making people like him, anyways. Besides all that, what would be the motivation for someone to come forward announcing their secret gay affair with Prince? Money? Most of the people who aren't fans and a good number of those who are already think he's gay anyways, so it's not as if the revelation would be a shocker or make headlines. He's not a big star in the way the current tabloid darlings are, so his every move isn't covered the way other celebrities' are. Spite? That seems to happen more in the case of politicians who were vocally anti-gay rather than pop stars known to attract queer-friendly fans. Money, fifteen minutes of fame, a book deal..... Sweetheart, that only works if the celeb in question is someone the general public actually cares about. I've accepted that Prince doesn't get the recognition he deserves, why haven't you? Like ir or not, Prince is not on the same page as people like Angelina Jolie in the eyes of the general public. They simply do not care as much about his life or habits, thank God. Money? 15 minutes of fame? A book deal? Who the hell from? Most of the populace and a good chunk of steady music fans and specifically, Prince fans, already think he's gay or bisexual. Money and book deals are only offered up to those revealing something scandalous, and in this case, most would not see any scandal. Revealing a secret gay affair with Prince would be, in the eyes of the general public, (you know, those people who buy books about famous folk and watch shit like ET) about as shocking as revealing a secret gay affair with Elton John. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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dseann said: meow85 said: And what would you say to the fans who think he's not as hetero as he says? At times he appears to be extremely fagatious but I don't take that to mean he's gay. I think he's very in touch with his "Camile" side and there's nothing wrong with that. Thanks for not answering my question. Let's go over this again. You said people who label Prince as gay do so out of disgust or to ridicule him. I asked, what about the fans who do the same? "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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dseann said: vainandy said: In the same place as his dick. In a private place hidden from the public's eyesight. I've never seen his dick either but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In the world we live in now, this elusive gay partner or partners would have come forward with their stories already, trying to get paid for interviews or singing some huge book deal letting out all the details. Not even a bogus attempt has been made yet. Don't you find that strange if the rumors were true? Not necessarily. Prince could have had sexual partners who were in the closet also. If they came forward with their stories, they would be outing themselves also and a closeted person wouldn't want to do that. Also, as flaming as Prince is, I picture him going after the extremely masculine men that you would never think was gay or bisexual and 90% of them are in the closet. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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meow85 said: dseann said: Money, fifteen minutes of fame, a book deal..... Sweetheart, that only works if the celeb in question is someone the general public actually cares about. I've accepted that Prince doesn't get the recognition he deserves, why haven't you? Like ir or not, Prince is not on the same page as people like Angelina Jolie in the eyes of the general public. They simply do not care as much about his life or habits, thank God. Money? 15 minutes of fame? A book deal? Who the hell from? Most of the populace and a good chunk of steady music fans and specifically, Prince fans, already think he's gay or bisexual. Money and book deals are only offered up to those revealing something scandalous, and in this case, most would not see any scandal. Revealing a secret gay affair with Prince would be, in the eyes of the general public, (you know, those people who buy books about famous folk and watch shit like ET) about as shocking as revealing a secret gay affair with Elton John. Exactly. Prince being exposed as gay wouldn't shock anyone except hardcore Prince fans. Most of the general public would say....."Hell, tell me something I didn't already know". Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Not necessarily. Prince could have had sexual partners who were in the closet also. If they came forward with their stories, they would be outing themselves also and a closeted person wouldn't want to do that. Also, as flaming as Prince is, I picture him going after the extremely masculine men that you would never think was gay or bisexual and 90% of them are in the closet. Yeah, I can't really see Our Lady going for someone as queenly as he is, either. I've heard it said that the best person for a closeted star to sleep with is another closeted star, because there's little to no risk of being found out. Not being famous or closeted, I wouldn't know. But it makes sense, doesn't it? [Edited 12/10/07 13:52pm] "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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vainandy said: Exactly. Prince being exposed as gay wouldn't shock anyone except hardcore Prince fans. Most of the general public would say....."Hell, tell me something I didn't already know". The only people who'd really be shocked or upset by it are fans like dseann who, for whatever reason, have felt the need to rabidly defend their Hero's assumed heterosexuality. The majority of the fanbase I suspect would either have an "I knew it!" moment, or shrug and wonder if Carmen ever used a strap-on, then get on with their day. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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So do you 2^ think P is "closeted"? | |
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VenusBlingBling said: So do you 2^ think P is "closeted"?
I don't know either way whether he's gay or straight. I just think it's stupid to assume he's heterosexual and put so much energy into rabidly defending that "fact". We're not in his head, so we don't know. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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