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Thread started 12/01/07 5:06pm

VenusBlingBlin
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Eeew, isn't he gay?

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

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Reply #1 posted 12/01/07 5:07pm

Volitan

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They just never listened to his lyrics.....
Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together
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Reply #2 posted 12/01/07 5:09pm

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I agree completely.

My cousin mentioned Prince offhandly during Thanksgiving, in fact. The sky was purple... so she said Purple Rain... my dad said his car has as much horsepower as a corvette... so she said Little Red Corvette...

but she was saying that he's gay.

And I kept saying that he isn't. He's been married twice.

Then she mentions Jim McGreevy rolleyes
I say that's completely different...
and she asks how...

I don't have a comeback for that one. But I clearly know a lot more than her when it comes to him. I got really pissed in that argument cuz ignorance is in my own family... and I can't even defend myself to her.

What am I supposed to say? I go this website and it says that he's not gay rolleyes Like she's gonna buy that.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #3 posted 12/01/07 5:10pm

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Volitan said:

They just never listened to his lyrics.....


No, because I've noticed that most people who aren't as interested in music as most of us don't bother to listen to lyrics.
And way too many don't seem to know that Prince has done other songs than Purple Rain...
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Reply #4 posted 12/01/07 5:13pm

darrenj

The easiest solution to your problem is to say this.

Prince is __cking GAY, he is an ass bandit, just like other music greats.

Elton John, Freddy merc. Blah Blah Blah!!!

And just be done with it.

Prince don't care, I don't care, and niether should you.

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Reply #5 posted 12/01/07 5:15pm

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darrenj said:

The easiest solution to your problem is to say this.

Prince is __cking GAY, he is an ass bandit, just like other music greats.

Elton John, Freddy merc. Blah Blah Blah!!!

And just be done with it.

Prince don't care, I don't care, and niether should you.

biggrin

cool


lol

It's just that what people think about P shows what kind of society we live in. It's messed up.
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Reply #6 posted 12/01/07 5:17pm

darrenj

I know, I'm with you. wink

I get fed up too, and just snap at people.

Especially my dad, We even had a fight once.

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Reply #7 posted 12/01/07 5:18pm

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Just say to those people....yes Prince probably is gay.

Where can they go from there? Problem solved.
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Reply #8 posted 12/01/07 5:18pm

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I agree completely.

My cousin mentioned Prince offhandly during Thanksgiving, in fact. The sky was purple... so she said Purple Rain... my dad said his car has as much horsepower as a corvette... so she said Little Red Corvette...

but she was saying that he's gay.

And I kept saying that he isn't. He's been married twice.

Then she mentions Jim McGreevy rolleyes
I say that's completely different...
and she asks how...

I don't have a comeback for that one. But I clearly know a lot more than her when it comes to him. I got really pissed in that argument cuz ignorance is in my own family... and I can't even defend myself to her.

What am I supposed to say? I go this website and it says that he's not gay rolleyes Like she's gonna buy that.

You could traumatize the heck out of her w/ all his songs about women. That'd prove your point. Wait. How old is she? Maybe a bad idea. lol
Or, compare his list of girlfriends to his list of boyfriends.

Prince does and says whatever he wants. Why would someone with those kinds of balls hide being gay? I'd be dissapointed if he was too scared to say, The Prince I know ain't scared of sh.t.
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Reply #9 posted 12/01/07 5:19pm

darrenj

SquirrelMeat said:

Just say to those people....yes Prince probably is gay.

Where can they go from there? Problem solved.


Thats a better way of putting it.

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Reply #10 posted 12/01/07 5:25pm

ToraToraDreams

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SquirrelMeat said:

Just say to those people....yes Prince probably is gay.

Where can they go from there? Problem solved.

Nice responce, man.
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Reply #11 posted 12/01/07 5:25pm

b3xy

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DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I agree completely.

My cousin mentioned Prince offhandly during Thanksgiving, in fact. The sky was purple... so she said Purple Rain... my dad said his car has as much horsepower as a corvette... so she said Little Red Corvette...

but she was saying that he's gay.

And I kept saying that he isn't. He's been married twice.

Then she mentions Jim McGreevy rolleyes
I say that's completely different...
and she asks how...

I don't have a comeback for that one. But I clearly know a lot more than her when it comes to him. I got really pissed in that argument cuz ignorance is in my own family... and I can't even defend myself to her.

What am I supposed to say? I go this website and it says that he's not gay rolleyes Like she's gonna buy that.


i totally know what you mean christmas is coming up and we spend it around at family. i just know the convo which are gonna happen before i even get there, i can't avoid bringing him up in the convo cos if anyone asks what i did this year 21 nights in london was amazing and the best thing i did all year, and my christmas presents from my grumpa is very likely to be the last few offical prince dvds which will lead to the 'why do you like that him' etc and unlike what i might say to people at uni etc i dont think my reply of 'oh i like guys who wear heels and hump guitars' would go down very well lol
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Reply #12 posted 12/01/07 5:26pm

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ToraToraDreams said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:

I agree completely.

My cousin mentioned Prince offhandly during Thanksgiving, in fact. The sky was purple... so she said Purple Rain... my dad said his car has as much horsepower as a corvette... so she said Little Red Corvette...

but she was saying that he's gay.

And I kept saying that he isn't. He's been married twice.

Then she mentions Jim McGreevy rolleyes
I say that's completely different...
and she asks how...

I don't have a comeback for that one. But I clearly know a lot more than her when it comes to him. I got really pissed in that argument cuz ignorance is in my own family... and I can't even defend myself to her.

What am I supposed to say? I go this website and it says that he's not gay rolleyes Like she's gonna buy that.

You could traumatize the heck out of her w/ all his songs about women. That'd prove your point. Wait. How old is she? Maybe a bad idea. lol
Or, compare his list of girlfriends to his list of boyfriends.

Prince does and says whatever he wants. Why would someone with those kinds of balls hide being gay? I'd be dissapointed if he was too scared to say, The Prince I know ain't scared of sh.t.


Could you imagine always carrying around on a "proof list" with the names of all his exes together with pics of them...?....
falloff

I just got an idea for a hilarious scene.

Sorry, carry on...
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Reply #13 posted 12/01/07 5:29pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?".


Whenever I hear this, I usually say ....."Yes he is and why the eew? The way you're going eew, you would think he's straight or something"..... Ignorant people can't stand to have the tables turned on them when someone considers straight to be an insult. lol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #14 posted 12/01/07 5:29pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

ToraToraDreams said:


You could traumatize the heck out of her w/ all his songs about women. That'd prove your point. Wait. How old is she? Maybe a bad idea. lol
Or, compare his list of girlfriends to his list of boyfriends.

Prince does and says whatever he wants. Why would someone with those kinds of balls hide being gay? I'd be dissapointed if he was too scared to say, The Prince I know ain't scared of sh.t.


Could you imagine always carrying around on a "proof list" with the names of all his exes together with pics of them...?....
falloff

I just got an idea for a hilarious scene.

Sorry, carry on...


That is a pretty good idea, haha...
sure... I'll carry that proof list along with my Prince inspired-novel and the questions I'll ask him if I happen to run into him rolleyes

I'd love to talk about Prince, but I can't tolerate him not being viewed in the best light possible... people turn things around and make him out to be some kind of freak... that's not what I see... and I'm not the most persuasive person shrug
I'm disfunctional as a supporter in spreading The Word about Prince rolleyes that's the biggest drawback of being a supporter of Prince to begin with.
In my case anyways shrug
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #15 posted 12/01/07 5:33pm

darrenj

It's always worth having a couple of CDR's with some good Prince tunes on for people.

I've had calls before asking what album a song was from.

It is possible to turn an ardent prince non-liker into a fluffy fam sheep.


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Reply #16 posted 12/01/07 5:36pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

confused



that reminds me of when i was 13/14 in ireland, had the big purple rain poster on my bedroom wall, and my uncle in law saw it, grinned at me and said prince is a N...., I remember thinking what does that mean, then i looked at the poster and realised Prince was black, up to that moment it had never really dawned on me, but that is life I guess, ignorance breeds ignorance
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014
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Reply #17 posted 12/01/07 6:08pm

Imago

VenusBlingBling said:

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

confused



Haven't you learned your lesson?


Stop mentioning Prince! It makes people ill.
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Reply #18 posted 12/01/07 6:19pm

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Imago said:

VenusBlingBling said:

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

confused



Haven't you learned your lesson?


Stop mentioning Prince! It makes people ill.


Oh, hush and go post your voice on the "Can you impersonate Prince" thread! falloff
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #19 posted 12/01/07 6:28pm

Imago

KidaDynamite said:

Imago said:




Haven't you learned your lesson?


Stop mentioning Prince! It makes people ill.


Oh, hush and go post your voice on the "Can you impersonate Prince" thread! falloff

OMG

falloff
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Reply #20 posted 12/01/07 7:34pm

ReginaCarman

VenusBlingBling said:

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

confused


Some people are just plain old dumb.
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Reply #21 posted 12/01/07 7:55pm

midnightmover

Just a few months ago I mentioned Prince to some colleagues and their first reaction was "He's gay". I said, "Well, for a gay guy he's fucked some sexy bitches". That shut them right up.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #22 posted 12/01/07 7:56pm

ThreadBare

First off, it's an incredibly ignorant and immature thing to say about a person.

Second, it's easy to see why people suspect that Prince is, at the very least, bi. Here's someone who has spent the bulk of his career in women's clothing and makeup and singing in a "high voice."

Prince grew up in a somewhat religious -- though apparently unstable -- home and continues affiliate with a faith that certainly doesn't publicly endorse a liberal sexual point of view.

So, it's not a stretch for people -- regardless of their familiarity or unfamiliarity of their work -- to consider him, at least, a closeted gay man.

What I've never understood is the reaction of some of his fans to defend him and to even say that he's not gay.

We really don't know.
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Reply #23 posted 12/01/07 7:59pm

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midnightmover said:

Just a few months ago I mentioned Prince to some colleagues and their first reaction was "He's gay". I said, "Well, for a gay guy he's fucked some sexy bitches". That shut them right up.

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You have such a way with words! razz
surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years...
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Reply #24 posted 12/01/07 8:33pm

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VenusBlingBling said:

I know this topic has been duscussed over and over again, but I need to get this off of my chest. I am so darn SICK of these two comments far too many have to utter!!!! Almost every time I mention Prince to someone in their teens and twenties te first thing I hear is "Prince, isn't he like gay?". What the HECK has that to do with his music and so what if he were??? Then as the conversation continues and race comes up in the discussion it's: "what, Prince is black?? No, he can't be."

People must be blind and deaf. neutral

Why is it so hard for people to go beyond his appearance and falsetto? And how can we still live in a time where only hard core music fans seem to know anything about Prince?

I try to ignore it, but it makes me sad to see how ignorant people are.

confused



i completely understand where you are coming from!! im in my twenties and anytime i mention prince my friends or ppl around me do the same exact thing!!! i understand prince created these questions many a time...remember controversy?? "am i black, am i white?..am i straight or am i gay??" and it seems odd that all people can do is focus on that. and then to boot people start judging ME because i love the man and his music! what is that?!! what so now im not cool because i listen to prince and not f***in rap=crap!! oh lawd!

its funny b/c just yesterday i said to one a my friends that i have NEVER met anyone who is as big a prince fan as i. sad only here on the fan sites. its so lonely here where i live in california. no one shares the passion i have for his music and talent. no one else to sing along to his songs with...no one else to listen to his music with....grrr!
Peace, Love, and some Purple Rain!!
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Reply #25 posted 12/01/07 9:17pm

Flowerz

VenusBlingBling said:

darrenj said:

The easiest solution to your problem is to say this.

Prince is __cking GAY, he is an ass bandit, just like other music greats.

Elton John, Freddy merc. Blah Blah Blah!!!

And just be done with it.

Prince don't care, I don't care, and niether should you.

biggrin

cool


lol

It's just that what people think about P shows what kind of society we live in. It's messed up.


whistle

*i just cant believe all the things people say .. Controversy

Am I Black or White .. Am I Straight or Gay? .. Controversy*


Prince told us that.. they've been thinking that way about him since 1980 and before
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Reply #26 posted 12/01/07 9:30pm

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Flowerz said:


whistle

*i just cant believe all the things people say .. Controversy

Am I Black or White .. Am I Straight or Gay? .. Controversy*


Prince told us that.. they've been thinking that way about him since 1980 and before


true enough...

It's unrelated to this topic completely... but that makes me ask this question.
I wonder what Prince thinks of people who think of him as this musical genius who's an enigma wrapped in a riddle... does he think we're making too much of him? Does he think we're thinking too much and saying he's more than he is?

Prince will probably just say to that, "I'm just a man who loves to make music and loves music. In fact, I am music. There's all there is to know."

shrug
Prince really does raise a lot of questions. Makes me wonder if any other person on this planet can make us raise so many questions.

If the ignorants (my term for people just like this who say the title of this thread and then some) would take the time to get to know his music the way we all have... they'd eventually drop their prejudices and cruel words and start to embrace him the way we all do.
But because of how the media protrays him and because he is out of the ordinary, it's just sad that so many people aren't willing to give him that chance. Prince can surprise you on a daily basis, that's something the ignorants will never know/enjoy wink
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Reply #27 posted 12/01/07 10:08pm

Flowerz

DreamyPopRoyalty said:

Flowerz said:


whistle

*i just cant believe all the things people say .. Controversy

Am I Black or White .. Am I Straight or Gay? .. Controversy*


Prince told us that.. they've been thinking that way about him since 1980 and before


true enough...

It's unrelated to this topic completely...


how is it unrelated to the topic.. when it ties right in to it? he said it in 'Controversy' ..ppl are saying the same stuff about him they said back in the 70's .. no need for anyone to get uptight about 'adjectives' ppl toss out.. Prince dont care what critics say (he said so to Tavis Smiley) .. so why are fans upset? .. everybody is not gonna like Prince shrug .. it really aint that heavy
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Reply #28 posted 12/01/07 10:21pm

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Flowerz said:

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



true enough...

It's unrelated to this topic completely...


how is it unrelated to the topic.. when it ties right in to it? he said it in 'Controversy' ..ppl are saying the same stuff about him they said back in the 70's .. no need for anyone to get uptight about 'adjectives' ppl toss out.. Prince dont care what critics say (he said so to Tavis Smiley) .. so why are fans upset? .. everybody is not gonna like Prince shrug .. it really aint that heavy


When I said that... I was talking about what I was going to say next. I wasn't talking about what you said giggle I think that's perfectly relevent...

next time, I'll just say "I'm going on a tangent here..."
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Reply #29 posted 12/01/07 10:32pm

Flowerz

DreamyPopRoyalty said:

Flowerz said:



how is it unrelated to the topic.. when it ties right in to it? he said it in 'Controversy' ..ppl are saying the same stuff about him they said back in the 70's .. no need for anyone to get uptight about 'adjectives' ppl toss out.. Prince dont care what critics say (he said so to Tavis Smiley) .. so why are fans upset? .. everybody is not gonna like Prince shrug .. it really aint that heavy


When I said that... I was talking about what I was going to say next. I wasn't talking about what you said giggle I think that's perfectly relevent...

next time, I'll just say "I'm going on a tangent here..."


ohhh oopsies... i totally missed that one .. sorry lol lol
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