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Thread started 12/04/07 9:31pm

HamsterHuey

Mediocre Prince

We know he excists. I got a playlist with b-sides and even the bad ones fromt he old days are mildly listenable.

But I also put the internet singles of late on there, as it is a continuation of non-album material.

And then United States Of Division came by...

~cringe~


That REALLY does not hold up well at all in between them other songs, I must admit.
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Reply #1 posted 12/04/07 9:35pm

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That's how I'd characterize a lot of Prince's post-TRC output. Whereas the 90's was an interesting blend of genius and total shit, this period is a stable continuum of mediocrity.
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Reply #2 posted 12/04/07 9:49pm

HamsterHuey

PurpleKnight said:

That's how I'd characterize a lot of Prince's post-TRC output. Whereas the 90's was an interesting blend of genius and total shit, this period is a stable continuum of mediocrity.


Still, mediocre albums like Planet Earth have beauties like SOmewhere Here On Earth, like One Nite Alone's title track and Here On Earth.
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Reply #3 posted 12/05/07 8:25am

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HamsterHuey said:

PurpleKnight said:

That's how I'd characterize a lot of Prince's post-TRC output. Whereas the 90's was an interesting blend of genius and total shit, this period is a stable continuum of mediocrity.


Still, mediocre albums like Planet Earth have beauties like SOmewhere Here On Earth, like One Nite Alone's title track and Here On Earth.


Yeah, I agree.

Wait, are you actually implying that One Nite Alone was mediocre?
eek
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Reply #4 posted 12/05/07 8:29am

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PurpleKnight said:

HamsterHuey said:



Still, mediocre albums like Planet Earth have beauties like SOmewhere Here On Earth, like One Nite Alone's title track and Here On Earth.


Yeah, I agree.

Wait, are you actually implying that One Nite Alone was mediocre?
eek


Sacrilege! disbelief
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Reply #5 posted 12/05/07 10:38am

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last 2 albums perfectly define Mediocre Prince.....and most of musicology as well....
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Reply #6 posted 12/05/07 3:17pm

HamsterHuey

PurpleKnight said:

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Wait, are you actually implying that One Nite Alone was mediocre?


Yes. Most tracks were awright, but not stellar, like the title song. Have A Heart is okay. But the album carries the burden of Young And Beautiful and a song that contains the word 'baklava', a word that should not be uttered in popular song ever.

Also, the album contains Avalanche, a song in which Prince tries to force modern day believes and politics on a historic situation, which makes him OR naieve OR stupid OR too lost inside a make believe world OR all of the above. I was already lost to whatever cause Prince was rooting for with the album before that, but this song just confirmed it for me; where in the past Prince had written a WHOLE bunch of songs that were in tune with my own life, from this song on his new music and I were to be just casual friends.
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Reply #7 posted 12/05/07 5:41pm

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HamsterHuey said:

PurpleKnight said:

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Wait, are you actually implying that One Nite Alone was mediocre?


Yes. Most tracks were awright, but not stellar, like the title song. Have A Heart is okay. But the album carries the burden of Young And Beautiful and a song that contains the word 'baklava', a word that should not be uttered in popular song ever.

Also, the album contains Avalanche, a song in which Prince tries to force modern day believes and politics on a historic situation, which makes him OR naieve OR stupid OR too lost inside a make believe world OR all of the above. I was already lost to whatever cause Prince was rooting for with the album before that, but this song just confirmed it for me; where in the past Prince had written a WHOLE bunch of songs that were in tune with my own life, from this song on his new music and I were to be just casual friends.


Wow, I have to disagree completely with you here.

I love all of the songs. They all have a lot of ambiance and tenderness to me. Unlike albums like Planet Earth that feel more like a collection of songs, ONA has a real flow to it; even subtle touches like the owl in the background add to the atmosphere of a man all alone at his piano thinking aloud.

I even like Young and Beautiful. It has a certain Little Richard-esque energy to it that works for me.

It also has his most underrated, most stunning instrumental ever as a closer. If NEWS had been filled with numbers like Arboretum, I would have considered it one of Prince's greatest albums.

I can understand your frustration with Avalanche, but that song is still a stunner. It reminds me of one of Chopin's old dark piano compositions; it's really haunting.
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Reply #8 posted 12/06/07 5:20am

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HamsterHuey said:

United States Of Division


Man, I hate that song! eek
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Reply #9 posted 12/06/07 6:54am

Genesia

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HamsterHuey said:

PurpleKnight said:

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Wait, are you actually implying that One Nite Alone was mediocre?


Yes. Most tracks were awright, but not stellar, like the title song. Have A Heart is okay. But the album carries the burden of Young And Beautiful and a song that contains the word 'baklava', a word that should not be uttered in popular song ever.

Also, the album contains Avalanche, a song in which Prince tries to force modern day believes and politics on a historic situation, which makes him OR naieve OR stupid OR too lost inside a make believe world OR all of the above. I was already lost to whatever cause Prince was rooting for with the album before that, but this song just confirmed it for me; where in the past Prince had written a WHOLE bunch of songs that were in tune with my own life, from this song on his new music and I were to be just casual friends.


I totally agree with you about Avalanche...but I don't let that spoil the rest of the album for me. I think the whole thing is amazing.
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Reply #10 posted 12/06/07 9:20am

HamsterHuey

Genesia said:

HamsterHuey said:



Yes. Most tracks were awright, but not stellar, like the title song. Have A Heart is okay. But the album carries the burden of Young And Beautiful and a song that contains the word 'baklava', a word that should not be uttered in popular song ever.

Also, the album contains Avalanche, a song in which Prince tries to force modern day believes and politics on a historic situation, which makes him OR naieve OR stupid OR too lost inside a make believe world OR all of the above. I was already lost to whatever cause Prince was rooting for with the album before that, but this song just confirmed it for me; where in the past Prince had written a WHOLE bunch of songs that were in tune with my own life, from this song on his new music and I were to be just casual friends.


I totally agree with you about Avalanche...but I don't let that spoil the rest of the album for me. I think the whole thing is amazing.


That is kewl, I wish I could. But I cannot help but feel the lyrics on either TRC and Avalanche taint the music to me.
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Reply #11 posted 12/06/07 9:45am

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HamsterHuey said:

Genesia said:



I totally agree with you about Avalanche...but I don't let that spoil the rest of the album for me. I think the whole thing is amazing.


That is kewl, I wish I could. But I cannot help but feel the lyrics on either TRC and Avalanche taint the music to me.


I feel that way about much of TRC, as well. I know it's incredible musically, and I want to love it, but there's just so much I can't get past, lyrically.

I had the same problem with Planet Earth. It's the curse of being writer, I guess. You want the lyrics to match up to the music.
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Reply #12 posted 12/06/07 10:07am

HamsterHuey

Genesia said:

HamsterHuey said:



That is kewl, I wish I could. But I cannot help but feel the lyrics on either TRC and Avalanche taint the music to me.


I feel that way about much of TRC, as well. I know it's incredible musically, and I want to love it, but there's just so much I can't get past, lyrically.

I had the same problem with Planet Earth. It's the curse of being writer, I guess. You want the lyrics to match up to the music.


I have grown immune to anger or dissappointment, when it comes to being a lover of Prince's music, through the decades. I mean, he is part of a religious cult that think it is okay to rewrite the 'holy word' and omits huge gaps of common sense from every day life. Leave that blood alone n interferons, my ass.

So, if he wants to call Abe Lincoln a racist, he can be my guest. Don't pout if I call him a cultish twat because of it, though.
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