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Reply #90 posted 12/02/07 2:47am

GiGi319

I think it's a good album.
One of my faves is 'The ladder'. music ' Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul'...
I also love Paisley Park, the place in my heart right next to Prince biggrin
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Reply #91 posted 12/02/07 9:22am

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GiGi319 said:

I think it's a good album.
One of my faves is 'The ladder'. music ' Everybody's looking for the ladder, everybody wants salvation of the soul'...
I also love Paisley Park, the place in my heart right next to Prince biggrin


I feel ya thumbs up!

Makes me wonder, though.
Did he have the idea for Paisley Park Studios when he made that song?
Did he model the studio after what his song explains?

Then again, Prince makes me wonder a lot of things. But this album, I enjoy because it sometimes makes me think hmmm and that's part of what I enjoy about being a supporter of Prince. cool
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Reply #92 posted 12/02/07 9:30am

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It's overrated, overappreciated, and yes, plain average. People praise it around here so much because Prince went off in a different direction and it proved how versitile he could be. Big deal. I could give less than a damn how versitile he can be. I preferred him when he was much less versitile.


Andy, why dont you get in a timemachine and transport yourself back to 1979?

I have read your remarks about 'country' and 'folk' music in here, i have witnessed your tiresome Lawrence Welk-jokes. Has it ever occur to you that you are some moron living in the past, thinking Rick James and Kool and the Gang are 'funk'?
Your name says it all: 'vain'. You confuse pussified discofunk (Kool and the Gang, Rick James) with the real stuff (James Brown, The Meters, Sly) and definetely have no idea about the richness of all other types off music around (whether its pop or rock, folk or country, singer-songwriter or americana)
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Reply #93 posted 12/02/07 9:59am

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Riverpoet31 said:


Andy, why dont you get in a timemachine and transport yourself back to 1979?

I have read your remarks about 'country' and 'folk' music in here, i have witnessed your tiresome Lawrence Welk-jokes. Has it ever occur to you that you are some moron living in the past, thinking Rick James and Kool and the Gang are 'funk'?


Well, considering that I use Lawrence Welk as a way to insult diversity by incorporating classical music into modern music, it seems that I am the one living for the future rather than the past, considering that it doesn't get any more ancient than classical music. If that means I'm living living in 1979, fine. When I crank up my time machine, I'll also set it for 1879 so you can use it when I finish.


Your name says it all: 'vain'. You confuse pussified discofunk (Kool and the Gang, Rick James) with the real stuff (James Brown, The Meters, Sly)


I don't have pussy in my live in any way, shape, form, or fashion. And if you don't think people like Rick James or Kool and the Gang were making funk, then you don't know what funk is. There's a lot more funk than just the early years and the founders. You probably are one of those pop/rock fans who never heard of Prince until "Little Red Corvette" because you weren't listening to funk in the first place and then started listening to the types of funk artists that Prince may mention from time to time because it's the "Princely thing to do". Put down the koolaid and get a mind and taste of your own rather than just Prince's tastes.


and definetely have no idea about the richness of all other types off music around (whether its pop or rock, folk or country, singer-songwriter or americana)


I could care less about it. Dull is dull, no matter how "rich" it may be.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #94 posted 12/02/07 10:23am

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ATWIAD was one of the best albums of its style/period, imho. At the time, a musical trend was taking off called "Paisley Underground" with such bands as XTC, Rain Parade, Game Theory, REM, the Bangles, etc. that was bringing back the "Jangle Pop" sound of late sixties psychedelic pop. ATWIAD capitalized on this and took the cake! "Raspberry Beret" was also probably the best video representing this period/genre.
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Reply #95 posted 12/02/07 4:40pm

GiGi319

DreamyPopRoyalty said:



I feel ya thumbs up!

Makes me wonder, though.
Did he have the idea for Paisley Park Studios when he made that song?
Did he model the studio after what his song explains?

Prince said one time in an interview, that Paisley Park is a place in someone's heart, everybody can go to. A sanctuary, so to speak. The song came first, but when he built Paisley Park, it became difinitely a sanctuary for him, as well as the fans. Paisley Park was mostly open to the fans. For him it became a place, where he could record his music freely and share it with his fans.
I wish, he would move back to Minneapolis for good, so we would all have a chance to see him perform at the Park again.
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Reply #96 posted 12/03/07 6:57am

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after becoming totally hooked on PR- ATWIAD was my first Prince WTF? moment. i was only 15, and had only just started buying music- what a waste of my pocket/chore money disbelief




that is EXACTLY what I thought.
"Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack
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Reply #97 posted 12/03/07 7:52am

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hmmm

I guess you could say this album can be called a "one step forward, 2 steps back" album.
He moved forward through time... but took two steps back.
The first step back was back to some music with a feel from an older time.
The second step back was outside himself, trying to figure out his next move and the direction where he'll go next.

This begins a trilogy of albums that ends with SOTT... where he supposedly finds exactly who he is musically and is at his biggest peak ever. Or so I've heard shrug

Maybe to access greatness, you have to take 2 steps back sometimes.
Clearly, this move worked for Prince because he come out with Parade & SOTT shortly after this.
had 2 run away... pride was 2 strong. It started raining, baby, the birds were gone
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Reply #98 posted 12/03/07 8:27am

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Nice to hear some nice things being said about the album.
I think it's probably one of the most ignored of the 80's input.
People can say that Batman gets ignored and I agree, it does (doesnt mean I want it for my collection, though)... Controversy is probably the only other 80's album that gets such little "airtime" as ATWIAD does. But those two actually have some similarities... or I thought so a few months ago confuse

It's amazing how personal some of this stuff is. "Condition of the Heart" is almost heart-wrecking at the very end. Temptation is beyond insanity... but LOVE the screaming... he does so much of it and I dig it just the same cool

Pop Life is totally a "feel good" track that I can't get over. It hit me right away as a gem.

Did I hear right that someone once said that here, Prince was actually rebeling against his success?
Somehow, I can just picture his mindset. He doesn't take a breather, he just works through this baby and releases it w/o so much as a word to anyone but his fellow musicians. People are trying to define him with Purple Rain and he totally breaks that stereotype they put him into with this album.
I know a lot of people were rubbed the wrong way by this 180. I kinda experienced that myself when I was heavy into PR and I got to this and I'm like "what is this supposed 2b?" lol

In isolation, though, ATWIAD is very pleasant album in its own right. And whenever I'm in the mood for a "change of scenery", it doesn't let me down cool




I can't remember the magazine I read with regards to Princes statement for ATWIAD, but he knew that he probably could not coast on the momentum of Purple Rain , so he didn't bother.

He said, "I could have just re-written Purple Rain in a different key", so I disagree with Tom that it was a Purple Rain re-tred.

The album starts different, has a different feel, and ends completely differently.

To me, it was his 80's version of "Planet" earth, only it had far more interesting moments, and the songs stood out.


I think it was a great transition from PR to Parade.
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Reply #99 posted 12/03/07 8:45am

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I don't know how anyone can dislike "Temptation". That song is pure genius.


"Baby, baby, baby, I’m guilty in the first degree!!"



as for ATWIAD, it's definately a classic but an acquired taste. it has more depth and dimension than almost any other Prince record. (Parade, SOTT and Lovesexy I put in the same bracket in terms of depth.)
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Reply #100 posted 12/03/07 12:29pm

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prodigalfan said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Oh the days of innocence sigh

lol



eek redface

I never really listened to that song... never really looked at the lyrics b4, and I thought the song was about a musical instrument. boxed

Hell, is Guitar about a guitar???

I love you, I love you baby but not like I love my pen0r

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Reply #101 posted 12/03/07 1:40pm

ejnbmore

I was the only one in my Dance class who liked this album. We were choreographing a show where we were going to use a Prince tune. I was overruled on America, Tamborine, and Paisley Park so I gave up. When Rasberry Beret got popular they still didn't get on the boat... I still find the title cut a fun song to dance to. I like the version of Pop Life from One Nite Alone Live DVD better than the original. Condition of the Heart is the gem song for me.
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Reply #102 posted 12/03/07 3:45pm

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prodigalfan said:




eek redface

I never really listened to that song... never really looked at the lyrics b4, and I thought the song was about a musical instrument. boxed

Hell, is Guitar about a guitar???


shrug
It did occur to me... but my interpretation is pretty much one of the things I knew about Prince before I even declared myself a supporter of his.

Music is Prince's first love and always will be. And his guitar is his favorite instrument... it helped define him as an artist... you're not gonna et quite the same reaction if you heard him play the same song on keyboards...

Purple Rain might be an exception 2 that, though... it sounds beautiful no matter what he plays it on.

"Love u baby, but not like I love my music." ...that's just my opinion shrug
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Reply #103 posted 12/03/07 4:11pm

coolcat

Perfect album. I like it much more than SOTT.
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