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New topic Printablevivid said: SexyBeautifulOne said: My bad! I must have overlooked the part of this topic that said, "Only discuss the music." Let me check again...
Hmmm...no! I still don't see it! So, to answer your question...since I'm a citizen of the United States of America with the inalienable right of Free Speech, it has absolutely nothing to do with the music, it wasn't intended to! And to talk a lot of rubbish,it has to be said [Edited 11/27/07 13:02pm] However you choose to interpret it, that is your right. Let freedom ring! | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: his per4mance from the 85 grammy was WAYYYYY better than that bullshit with beyonce
that outfit from 85' is smokin' the green/blue thing was workin' | |
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Why would i stay home on a Friday night to watch a repeat of a performance I've already seen before and have somewhere on a disc?? The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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lazycrockett said: Why would i stay home on a Friday night to watch a repeat of a performance I've already seen before and have somewhere on a disc??
and youtube cause it is there .. lol | |
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I don't keep up with these award shows... So I have a question, is the Grammy's on this Friday? Does it always run in November? Is this like an awards show or what? Where is it broadcast from? Sorry, another stupid question, isn't the Grammy's for movies and television shows, or is it a music awards show? (I have seen this performance but wasn't sure which show it was. I did like it by the way. )
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i'll be watching! | |
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is it gonna be shown in the uk? | |
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Flowerz said: L4OATheOriginal said: his per4mance from the 85 grammy was WAYYYYY better than that bullshit with beyonce
that outfit from 85' is smokin' the green/blue thing was workin' he had on all white hehhehe man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: Flowerz said: that outfit from 85' is smokin' the green/blue thing was workin' he had on all white hehhehe oppsies.. u're right... im thinking of the American Music Awards in 85' | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: I don't keep up with these award shows... So I have a question, is the Grammy's on this Friday? Does it always run in November? Is this like an awards show or what? Where is it broadcast from? Sorry, another stupid question, isn't the Grammy's for movies and television shows, or is it a music awards show? (I have seen this performance but wasn't sure which show it was. I did like it by the way. )
It's not The Grammy award's, show it's the 'BEST OF' and anytime anything musical has a best of they better have Prince! | |
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wlcm2thdwn said: wildgoldenhoney said: I don't keep up with these award shows... So I have a question, is the Grammy's on this Friday? Does it always run in November? Is this like an awards show or what? Where is it broadcast from? Sorry, another stupid question, isn't the Grammy's for movies and television shows, or is it a music awards show? (I have seen this performance but wasn't sure which show it was. I did like it by the way. )
It's not The Grammy award's, show it's the 'BEST OF' and anytime anything musical has a best of they better have Prince! They'd better! And thanks for the answer... . [Edited 11/28/07 19:00pm] | |
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jseven said:
The special will feature 25 memorable live performances from past Grammy shows. It's definately memorable. I'll always remember it as one of his worst sellout performances ever. I mean, performing with a piece of shit hop trash, that's embarassing. Viewers got to determine the play list via online voting.
Apparently it was young viewers voting or either they had a limited amount of performances to choose from. When it comes to Prince and the Grammy Awards performances, the 1985 performance is definately the one that should air. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] Silence Speaks A Thousand Words. | |
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jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the lder songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his bestperformance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. 2004 was a very great year for Prince and his fans. I look back on it as one of the best years of my life. I saw Prince live 8 times, up close and personal, and he was all over the place in the media and television. We are such an ungrateful bunch. "It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..." | |
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I agree the 85 performance is top of the notch but I think the Superbowl performance is worth mentioning also. It created A LOT of exposure to the general crowd and was considered the best halftime show ever....
(and I really like the covers he did there) | |
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funkteer said: jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the lder songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his bestperformance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. 2004 was a very great year for Prince and his fans. I look back on it as one of the best years of my life. I saw Prince live 8 times, up close and personal, and he was all over the place in the media and television. We are such an ungrateful bunch. I just love how people have the audacity to call Prince fans ungrateful. I saw Prince quite a bit in 2004 myself and considering that I had to pay each and every time for the privilege. I fail to see what I should be grateful for. Shouldn't he be grateful that his fans were the ones that sustained him enough to get him from 1994 to 2004 and his "great comeback"? We're the ones that kept him going when the "mainstream" didn't know or care that he was still alive, so if anybody around here is ungrateful, it's him! | |
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Flowerz said: L4OATheOriginal said: he had on all white hehhehe oppsies.. u're right... im thinking of the American Music Awards in 85' yeah when he kicked down the mic stand and when it was cool 2 hear that song on a award show .. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] j7 i appereciate ur side of it all, and it was understandable in 2004 marking the 20th anniversary that that per4mance of the older material was "acceptable" but overall it leaves the taste of "what have u done lately" in ur mouth at the same time. then 3 years it's the same material after all at the superbowl. his apperance on the leno show and doing the new material was worthwile as compared 2 his apperance on the ellen show where it was a show casing of again old material. now the musicology tour was supposed 2 have been the last time those songs where 2 b played but the king of contridicition, proved that was not the case yet again. the marketing of a new project when making these public appearances should b focused on that project. if u look at bruce springsteen on the today show promoting his new album, he did songs from that album 2 help the sales. it wasn't like he was on that show doing born 2 run or dancing in the dark. prince has been trapped in the 80's far 2 long and needs 2 promote his latest material instead. the grammy's could have featured new and old material but it was all about that 20 year old album man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: funkteer said: 2004 was a very great year for Prince and his fans. I look back on it as one of the best years of my life. I saw Prince live 8 times, up close and personal, and he was all over the place in the media and television. We are such an ungrateful bunch. I just love how people have the audacity to call Prince fans ungrateful. I saw Prince quite a bit in 2004 myself and considering that I had to pay each and every time for the privilege. I fail to see what I should be grateful for. Shouldn't he be grateful that his fans were the ones that sustained him enough to get him from 1994 to 2004 and his "great comeback"? We're the ones that kept him going when the "mainstream" didn't know or care that he was still alive, so if anybody around here is ungrateful, it's him! I think its all about the music and don't usually get involved but I can see where you're coming from SexyBeautifulOne. I'm grateful I saw such a talent live, but yes I did pay so Prince and the fans both benefit, I wonder how much he considers that at the moment... | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: JOYJOY said: Brilliant!!!
I hope he wins!!! I also now see where the twins got their dancing style and direction from.. thts exactly my thought when i first saw it. he was loving tht performance with her...her style was the inspiration 4 the twins, i'm almost certain of tht! i'm keeping everything crossed 4 him XXX Amen!!! The twinz did get their style from that performance. | |
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L4OATheOriginal said: jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] j7 i appereciate ur side of it all, and it was understandable in 2004 marking the 20th anniversary that that per4mance of the older material was "acceptable" but overall it leaves the taste of "what have u done lately" in ur mouth at the same time. then 3 years it's the same material after all at the superbowl. his apperance on the leno show and doing the new material was worthwile as compared 2 his apperance on the ellen show where it was a show casing of again old material. now the musicology tour was supposed 2 have been the last time those songs where 2 b played but the king of contridicition, proved that was not the case yet again. the marketing of a new project when making these public appearances should b focused on that project. if u look at bruce springsteen on the today show promoting his new album, he did songs from that album 2 help the sales. it wasn't like he was on that show doing born 2 run or dancing in the dark. prince has been trapped in the 80's far 2 long and needs 2 promote his latest material instead. the grammy's could have featured new and old material but it was all about that 20 year old album I respect ur opinion. Silence Speaks A Thousand Words. | |
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jseven said: L4OATheOriginal said: j7 i appereciate ur side of it all, and it was understandable in 2004 marking the 20th anniversary that that per4mance of the older material was "acceptable" but overall it leaves the taste of "what have u done lately" in ur mouth at the same time. then 3 years it's the same material after all at the superbowl. his apperance on the leno show and doing the new material was worthwile as compared 2 his apperance on the ellen show where it was a show casing of again old material. now the musicology tour was supposed 2 have been the last time those songs where 2 b played but the king of contridicition, proved that was not the case yet again. the marketing of a new project when making these public appearances should b focused on that project. if u look at bruce springsteen on the today show promoting his new album, he did songs from that album 2 help the sales. it wasn't like he was on that show doing born 2 run or dancing in the dark. prince has been trapped in the 80's far 2 long and needs 2 promote his latest material instead. the grammy's could have featured new and old material but it was all about that 20 year old album I respect ur opinion. There is a lot of truth to that, but I think a lot of the reason that Prince is able to play the old stuff and get away with it is he doesn't do it the same way twice (in general) and he doesn't just sing it the way it is on the album. When you couple this with his ability to perform and entertain before a live audience as well as or better anybody in music history, he is able to play the old stuff without it sounding like a Vegas review. As previously stated, 2004 was like no other year since 1984 and this performance was the beginning of the Prince media frenzy that lasted until the end of the tour that fall. As such, this performance belongs at or near the top of all his live TV performances, if not for the performance itself, then for what it set in motion. [Edited 11/29/07 16:15pm] | |
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[b]U probably won't see neither of them. The asshole will probably sue the F'n Grammys now 2 if he cn't make a buck | |
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jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] I’ve been following Prince 4 a long time like so many of u. I will disagree with anyone saying Prince needed B 2 get the publicity he got. Prince has never needed anyone 2 help him on stage other than his musicians. People were excited 2 know he was opening up the Grammy’s and surprised 2 know it was her. 4 a quick minute it was a secret who he was performing with since we r so used 2 him being by himself. He did not need her and would have still received the buzz because he had been hidden from the publics eye 4 a long time so people were diffidently ready 4 him, I know damn well I was but as u stated above in bold J7 I totally agree. | |
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moviestar08 said: im gonna record this
I bet you get an email from web sheriff now! As for the performance, prince, class, beyonce, classless | |
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jseven said: People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] jseven, i couldn't have said it any better. on point as usual. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said:[quote]jseven said:[quote]People knock the performance with Beyonce but it put Prince back in the main stream.
That performance started that years huge success that followed with the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, appearances on Leno and Ellen that transpired into the top grossing tour of that year garniring him countless covers including Entertainment Weekly and Rolling Stone. IMHO. he used Beyonce to his advantage that everyone was talking about him the next day, not her. He turned her into one of his back-up singer and dancers. Who's Pimpin' Who? Yes, 85' was a great performance, but with all the things that happened after the 04' performance, it deserves mention. Sure, we would have loved him to have done the latest track "Musicology" and not something he has done before. What we fail to relize is a performance like that rediscovers him 2 millions who may not have heard of him before or others who were like "where he been" although we always knew where he was. We live in age where Prince gains news fans by playing the older material on shows like that and older material mixed in with new material at the concerts. He does the grammys which had the older songs and for those new found fans or fans who want to see him again, left with a new cd of newer matierial, not a cd of the Grammy performance or Purple Rain. He can't get the new stuff played on the radio, so he does what he has to do, to get himself out there and exposed to people. I am sure this is not going 2 change anyone's mind but just had to put it out there. This performance was memorable perhaps not in the context of his best performance of all time, but perhaps in the context that it got people talking about Prince again. In 85, he was all what was talked about. After that in 2004, it was like it was 1984 all over again. leave me alone, i'm sick edit [Edited 11/28/07 23:23pm] 2004 1984 The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
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I really enjoyed Prince and Beyonce together. I remember seeing Prince at the Musicology tour at MSG, he went into the beat of "Crazy in Love" and was doing the booty dance. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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ficktyt said: jseven said: I respect ur opinion. There is a lot of truth to that, but I think a lot of the reason that Prince is able to play the old stuff and get away with it is he doesn't do it the same way twice (in general) and he doesn't just sing it the way it is on the album. When you couple this with his ability to perform and entertain before a live audience as well as or better anybody in music history, he is able to play the old stuff without it sounding like a Vegas review. As previously stated, 2004 was like no other year since 1984 and this performance was the beginning of the Prince media frenzy that lasted until the end of the tour that fall. As such, this performance belongs at or near the top of all his live TV performances, if not for the performance itself, then for what it set in motion. [Edited 11/29/07 16:15pm] true sometimes he'll do a different arrangement of past songs but some songs have remained the same 4 several years in that arrangement that gives it that stale been there done that taste. sign o the times was arranged differently than previous that made it seem fresh. kiss has been stale 4 years and definetly the take me with u/raspberry medley. as 4 having a vegas review vibe, it's been happening since he 1st per4med in vegas nearly 10 years ago on the jam of the year tour. man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81 | |
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