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PrintableSome of this is an interesting read, the difference in people's opinions. At the end of the day its HIS choice and HIS career, so what can fans do about it? Plus if you've had a troubled life sometimes you turn to religion.
This thread is becoming like a dinner party or drinks gathering where the topics change to religion, politics etc.. and you want to get outta there! People get so fired up but at the end of the day HAVE to agree to disagree eh folks  | |
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lspear76 said: fcukthepolice said: I detest religion with a passion
It makes my skin crawl when Prince spews his hatred and dogma. 'when Larry told me 'the truth' everything changed' The truth? prince tries to convince everyone else that his little book is correct; it's disgusting The only truth is that there is no God and if there was one, he has nothing to do with what goes on in the world, or anything to do with life or death. When you're dead, you're dead. Blackness and nothingness. Only "weak" minded people are religious. And Prince fits that bill, IMHO. Fair enough I respect your opinion
I'm agnostic as I don't believe in any one religion or god but that there must be something out there. How did we all get here? I understand where they are coming from with the big bang theory, but take the human body for example how can you not say someone or something somewhere designed it, its so complicated and so thats why I doubt the big bang is all that happened... gee I'm getting deep on a Saturday afternoon lol! | |
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 It's depressing to see an artist of his level falls into self censorship and I don't think about crude words only, it's as if he has decided to reduce his own creativity. | |
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themusicthatcounts said: lspear76 said: The only truth is that there is no God and if there was one, he has nothing to do with what goes on in the world, or anything to do with life or death. When you're dead, you're dead. Blackness and nothingness. Only "weak" minded people are religious. And Prince fits that bill, IMHO. Fair enough I respect your opinion
I'm agnostic as I don't believe in any one religion or god but that there must be something out there. How did we all get here? I understand where they are coming from with the big bang theory, but take the human body for example how can you not say someone or something somewhere designed it, its so complicated and so thats why I doubt the big bang is all that happened... gee I'm getting deep on a Saturday afternoon lol! I agree. There was some design. Not by a god though but by those who worshipped as gods by the egyptians. Think about it. It's all there in the ancient texts plus many former goverment and high ranking military men have said this. Those with cleareances at the highes level know what's going on ANyway Prince can practise religion all he wants and i will not critice him BUT he does not do that personally. He puts his dogma onto others. Some of the stuff he was saying around 2002 was disgusting, hateful, narrow minded and definatly no the old prince who was selfish but did not discriminate against those who were different. | |
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[quote] BartVanHemelen said: Giovanni777 said: Following a spiritual path is always promising, regardless of the path, as long it relates 2 a belief in God.
Baloney. Do I need to point out the multitude of religious nutcases who murdered in the name of god? Just because "religious nutcases" muder in the name of God doesn't mean that God has inspired those murders nor that all true believers are equally nuts. Nutters and murderers can be found wherever there are human beings. God inspires love and positive actions. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Quote from 3121.com:
Stevie Wonder called his friend Prince on2 the stage at Madison Square Garden 4 a stinging version of “Superstition.” At one point there were 3 guitars as well as the Wonderman playing his syncopated hookline. That song rivals “Thank U…” by Sly 4 being the funkiest song ever. Prince is in town visiting the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society World Headquarters in New York. I know its discussed many times before in here, and i agree that people are allowed to follow any type of religion they want. But on the other hand i have a strong feeling that Prince, from the moment he joined the JW movement has been 'holding back himself' on a creative level. Not only is he censoring and/or muting down his lyrics, it also appears he feels reluctant to go "all out" with his music. I miss the sometimes manic energy from his earlier music, the all-over-the place type of creativity, the quirky selrelativating humor. His output since Rave probably is often sounding too serious, to selfcontrolled, to subdued to really create a spark. For example, i consider his namechange and 'slave' remarks in the mid-nineties as eccentricity bordering on the insane, but at least on a musical level he sounded like 'himself': part an eccentric, over the top, mad genious & part a selfrelativating bloke, who could make fun of his own eccentricity. Nowadays i often have the feeling he is just taking himself too serious and tries to hard to make his creative output "fit in" with his religious idea's. To me it gives the feeling that he ignores his real drive to create, his 'muse', and that both the lyrics and music, as well as the image he tries to portray is suffering badly from it. Anyone agrees? I agree with you, Riverpoet31. He does sound like he is censoring his creativity. That's sad. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: QuakeXLE said: From day one... Prince has muddled sex and religion. Only prince would utter the lords prayer in a song on the same album as songs like Do Me Baby, Private Joy and Head.
Oh please. Can I introduce you to Marvin Gaye? or James Brown... or John Lennon... or... | |
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JazzMeUp said: Baloney. Do I need to point out the multitude of religious nutcases who murdered in the name of god? Just because "religious nutcases" muder in the name of God doesn't mean that God has inspired those murders nor that all true believers are equally nuts. Nutters and murderers can be found wherever there are human beings. God inspires love and positive actions. yeah right | |
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fcukthepolice said: JazzMeUp said: Just because "religious nutcases" muder in the name of God doesn't mean that God has inspired those murders nor that all true believers are equally nuts. Nutters and murderers can be found wherever there are human beings. God inspires love and positive actions. yeah right I do admit that it is hard to see when your focus is on the works of evil. | |
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If anyone here is truly concerned about his faith and where he's going with it, then they should be praying for him & hoping that he goes in the right direction in all areas of his life, not just his music. If you're not one who prays then at least hope for the best for Prince but I get a feeling that none of this is happening, at least not here.
Just my  on the matter.[Edited 11/24/07 13:00pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Quake QLE said
Sure he's decided to follow a more strict branch of Christianity now.... but... he's still Prince. Sure he is more controlled about things he says nowadays.. and such as a man near 50 should be... but again.. he's still mischievious in nature... he's still Prince. What I'm saying is simple... You can remove Prince from Erotic City... but you will never remove all of Erotic City from Prince. In other words... like many people who claim to have some sort f religion in thier lives... he is not perfect and will still cross the line from time to time... even if its just to tease and taunt his fans.[/quote] I agree, but I think what Riverpoet31 is saying (sorry in advance if i'm interpreting wrongly here!) is that his effort to reign it in more feels like a slightly unnatural struggle.... previously he didn't seem to have a problem with the god/sex mix n match, but now you sense he doesn't feel as easy with it as his religion has become 'stricter' and I just don't like the idea of him feeling guilty and torn about the material he always has and potentially still wants to produce. I'm not anti JW or anti religion in any way, I'm just always concered at seeing a person who seems to feel they should be something they're not. But I do take your point about people changing as they age and that not necessarily always being really easy - maybe we're just seeing a bit of his struggle to morph through life stages. You might not like the taste but I'm still gonna stick your face in this FUNK | |
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purplecam said: If anyone here is truly concerned about his faith and where he's going with it, then they should be praying for him & hoping that he goes in the right direction in all areas of his life, not just his music. If you're not one who prays then at least hope for the best for Prince but I get a feeling that none of this is happening, at least not here.
Just my on the matter.
[Edited 11/24/07 13:00pm] I do wish the best for Prince, I don't know him to feel otherwise | |
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If anyone here is truly concerned about his faith and where he's going with it, then they should be praying for him & hoping that he goes in the right direction in all areas of his life, not just his music. If you're not one who prays then at least hope for the best for Prince but I get a feeling that none of this is happening, at least not here. Why should i pray for Prince? I mean, i aint christian, but what is the right direction? what gives you the idea this is about praying? | |
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cheese & rice!
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QuietSeven said: Do you honestly beleve that everything in life turns out the way you "dream of" or "plan too".
Life isn't about what you think is... Life is the experience of what you choose to do in it. If you walk the walk of life worrying about others and complaining about what you think you should do or shouldn't then your walking around in a lie. Religion, politics, and everything else is simply the experience in choice you choose. I always wonder, why not just... simply... Choose not to Choose... walk your life with your spirit that will live on in love and in love with the guidance of what you are born with. Prince has been living on this planet, since his 1 birth of 1958 a date given by a manmade system such as your 1 birth too... Since you are born here once...just live and stop thinking too much about what is happening, because I got news for ya... All roads, all breaths and all experiences are given once! And I'm not talking about eatting or otherwise all event happen 1 moment with varients of that one happening. Let this ONE moment of life be the best with whatever you can do in love and stop worrying about what you may not even know will be your experience. Just live in love. Some of you reading this may not like what I am saying or might not even comprehend the depth of it, you may mock or tease or choose to degrade, that I won't blink twice too, I will however; say, just live in love again and again and again...which again, is ONCE FOREVER! Take care, QuietSeven.   Sounds good to me  | |
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This is a rant... this is strictly a rant... this post will contain language which will be offensive to some readers.
Some of you simple minded people are getting on my nerves. fcukthepolice said: I detest religion with a passion It makes my skin crawl when Prince spews his hatred and dogma.
'when Larry told me 'the truth' everything changed' The truth? prince tries to convince everyone else that his little book is correct; it's disgusting The irony of this statement is that you are doing exactly what you claim he does. This very statement is spewing your hatered and dogma... you're tring to convince every one that what you claim Prince has done is disgusting. Hypocracy at its finest. BartVanHemelen said: QuakeXLE said: From day one... Prince has muddled sex and religion. Only prince would utter the lords prayer in a song on the same album as songs like Do Me Baby, Private Joy and Head.
Oh please. Can I introduce you to Marvin Gaye? marvin gaye had nothing to do in the context of my statement. Neither did James Brown or John Lennon. I usd the word 'only' as it refrenced Prince... not as as a blanket statement to exclude other artist who may have done the same thing. if I had been talking musicians in general... then come with plenty of examples.. but I was not. BartVanHemelen said: QuakeXLE said: I understood exactly where you are coming from. Read my previous post to the quote... in which I already responded to everything you just said before you said it.
No, you didn't. H epoints out the difference between an artist who follows his instinct versus an artist who looks at what will score with his fanbase. F.U.N.K. isn't a Camille song, just like Planet Earth isn't a Camille song. They're tracks that are designed to resemble Camille songs, but they lack the essence. Just like 1+1+1=3 is a thinly veiled attempt at a "good" replacement for Erotic City. All you came up with was a bunch of baloney you tell yourself to avoid admitting the truth. You hate what people like Riverpoet31 do: point out exactly what is wrong with Prince. Because you know damn well that he's right, but that would shatter your world and it would force you to admit that Prince hasn't released a decent tune in ages. Balogne...? Why would I hate what he says or does? What he says effects my enjoyment of my music... nadda. At best he is doing is pointing out an opnion he has which I feel is wrong... which is my opinion. I have respect for people who voice thier opnions while respecting the opnions of others. I respect those who look at their opinions as just that and not try to infuse them on to others as if they were fact. Of course... you are not falling into that category. You hate what people like Riverpoet31 do: point out exactly what is wrong with Prince.
People like you for some reasn can't except the fact that your views are nothing more than your personal opinions... opinions which may be shared by some... but not everyone. You lack the ability to see things from more than your own POV. In your mind what you say may be true... but in mine and in others you're full of shit. Just relax take the pine cone out of your ass and enjoy the music... and if you don't enjoy it.... if you feel tht there is something wrong with Prince... THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE! What I DO hate are people coming around to the fan sites with nothing better to do than bitch, bitch and bitch some more... and when they run out of things to bitch about... they get bitchy about that. What is this campaign with some of you to try to convince others that the music is no good... Prince has lost it... because he's taken on religion his music suffers... there is something 'wrong' with him... bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch... thats all you do. Its one thing to have constructive critque about the music... that is cool and that is one of the reason I like coming to fan sites. I want to read the opinons of others about the music. But some of you guys go way beyond that. You clearly don't like anything Prince anymore... and ack anything contructive to say besides "he in't what he used to be... and why"...so go the fuck away.... get another savior for your lack of life... and stop bludgening us with your 'hatered' and 'dogma' and move the fuck on. If you don't like the kool aid... put the glass down... no one is forcing it down your throat. There is nothing about my world which is going to be shattered anytime soon as it relates to music I like listening to. But evidentually yours has been shattered... move on.. go heal... haunt the fan sites or whomever you think is delivering the goods now-a-days and just shut the fuck up! PRINCE OWES YOU NUTHING. Why should he sacrifice what is important to his lfe and 'after life' for the sake that you can get your heathenish groove on...? Some of you act as if your psyche majors all into Prince's psyche as if you know what inpires and motivates him. The only 'psyche' going on arund here is the core word of 'psycho' which is how some of you truly act. F.U.N.K. isn't a Camille song
WTF Camille is not a person. Camille was just a gimmick for when Prince used the spedd up high pitch voice around the Sign O' the times/ Dream Factory era. When people say 'Camille' now... they are refering strictly to the fact that ... the vocals are sped up and high. That is it. To make more out of it than that... is waisting what little brain power you may have. Just like 1+1+1=3 is a thinly veiled attempt at a "good" replacement for Erotic City.
Do you realize how you sound...? You sound like a person who created a diety in your mind named Prince. and when that diety proved to be..just human... you lost what little mind you had! I say for the umpteenth time... the man has been making music for more than 30 years... he has gone thru life changes just as anyone else wuld over the same perod of time. His priorities and views have changed. To think he could maintain the level of passion and creativity he has after he has done... EVERTHING he could have ever dreamed and more.... is INSANE. Prince is only human. Get tht FACT into your heads. And if you don't like the current product at least state so in a constructive manner and cease with the senseless bitching.  | |
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Agree with everything you wrote QuakeXLE (well, apart from the swear words). Some of the comments posted on this forum can sometimes make you lose your patience...
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QuakeXLE said: This is a rant... this is strictly a rant... this post will contain language which will be offensive to some readers.
Some of you simple minded people are getting on my nerves. fcukthepolice said: I detest religion with a passion It makes my skin crawl when Prince spews his hatred and dogma.
'when Larry told me 'the truth' everything changed' The truth? prince tries to convince everyone else that his little book is correct; it's disgusting The irony of this statement is that you are doing exactly what you claim he does. This very statement is spewing your hatered and dogma... you're tring to convince every one that what you claim Prince has done is disgusting. Hypocracy at its finest. WTF Camille is not a person. Camille was just a gimmick for when Prince used the spedd up high pitch voice around the Sign O' the times/ Dream Factory era. When people say 'Camille' now... they are refering strictly to the fact that ... the vocals are sped up and high. That is it. To make more out of it than that... is waisting what little brain power you may have. Just like 1+1+1=3 is a thinly veiled attempt at a "good" replacement for Erotic City.
Do you realize how you sound...? You sound like a person who created a diety in your mind named Prince. and when that diety proved to be..just human... you lost what little mind you had! I say for the umpteenth time... the man has been making music for more than 30 years... he has gone thru life changes just as anyone else wuld over the same perod of time. His priorities and views have changed. To think he could maintain the level of passion and creativity he has after he has done... EVERTHING he could have ever dreamed and more.... is INSANE. Prince is only human. Get tht FACT into your heads. And if you don't like the current product at least state so in a constructive manner and cease with the senseless bitching. QuakeXLE, you spoke the truth. People like Bart need to grow up and either stop with their biterness over things they can't change or they should just leave, which Bart and people like him know they can't do cause Prince has got them in the palms of his hands. If I felt like Prince was the enemy, I sure as hell wouldn't spend time here talking about him. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Quote:
If anyone here is truly concerned about his faith and where he's going with it, then they should be praying for him & hoping that he goes in the right direction in all areas of his life, not just his music. If you're not one who prays then at least hope for the best for Prince but I get a feeling that none of this is happening, at least not here. Why should i pray for Prince? I mean, i aint christian, but what is the right direction? what gives you the idea this is about praying? You obviously didn't read all that I said in my post. I also said if you don't pray then hope for the best with Prince. I covered all of the bases in my statement but all you saw was "pray" and you let that throw you off. You can wish someone well without praying for them. No matter what your faith or lack thereof is, all of us here want the same thing: We want Prince to be as funky as he can be. Simple as that. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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can prince be any funkier than FUNK? i dont think so. | |
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everybody has a special role to play, as does Prince. we should just let him be, and not judge him according to his faith. | |
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JazzMeUp said: [color=indigo]I disagree with most of your comments Riverpoet31.
After seeing him at several aftershows during this Summer, I can say that his music and creativity have not gone away from him at all. If anything, he seemed a lot happier, smiled and laughed a lot. He still has a sharp sense of humour and a lot of wit (The Rules song is an example). And I guarantee that he is still very much of an eccentric. Read back any of the Aftershows threads (especially August 18th) and you will see from all the posts that his resourcefulness is still very alive and kicking. Especially for someone who starts a Main Show at 8.30pm and is still going at 2 in the morning! As for his spiritual life, it is true that he does not seem as unstable or tormented as he used to and I am sorry to hear that as a result you no longer feel entertained by his calmer demeanour. But - even though it is not the case - I would rather his so called “image” suffered than his actual inner self. As for the music, it is down to personal preferences. I personally think the Rainbow Children is by far one of his best albums, and nowadays I listen mainly to his late stuff. I used to listen to his 80’s albums a lot when I was younger and although I still enjoy listening to them every now and then, I feel that my own music taste has followed the same progression as his music. I think some fans are obsessed by the fact that he is following his spiritual path and cannot see pass that. I am sure he still has a lot to offer and if it wasn’t for all the misconceptions and negative observations, he would probably feel more inspired to do so.[/color] Love your thread.  | |
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So basically if Prince isn't singing about immoral sexcapades, or isn't gyrating on the stage (apart from him allegedy humping a mic stand  ), his music is uninspired and lacks "that spark"?
At this point in his life, I think that Prince loves God more than he loves music. If this is the case, God would be the primary inspiration of what Prince does musically. This was not always the case. If one does not accept this, then I think that their appreciation of Prince's music is naturally going to be affected. I personally think that Prince is highly inspired, I hear it in his music. Since I share his same love of God, I connect with his feelings when I listen to his music, especially the one's that border on the spiritual side. That's just me. If you don't have that type of appreciation for spiritual things, then I agree, it wouldn't sound promising for you. And although I am in the minority when it comes to the fact that the man is half a century as far as age... His values, opinions, and modes of expression (along with his maturity) have changed. Live in the past if you want to, but Prince was never concerned with living in the past. If you don't want to go where he's growing, find your inspiration elsewhere. I think Prince is at a good place in his life right now. Your opinions might also change when you are 50. Life is about growing, and I see Prince doing that. "For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all" | |
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DanceWme said:[quote] QuakeXLE said: Maybe... just maybe his creative out put is less a reflection of his religous beliefs and more of an reflection of a man who... - has been in the business for 30+ years - has created more music over that span than most artist of this or any generation. - has experimented with more sounds and genres than any other musician could even come remotely close to - has dipped into the cereative well more times, more often and during any 10 year span alone has created more great music than most artist would during an entire career. - has matured and feels diferently about the way he expresses himself now that he's darn near 50 as compared to when he was much younger like most people who 'act there age' would do - has made some of the most remarkable music that he is often unfairly judged against his own creations? - has fans/fam who don't understand that no man remains he same...esp over a 30 year span. - has had and done it all and at his age is more content with his music because he has nothing left to prove. - is just not the same person he was 10,.. 20... or 30 years ago I can't understand why people constantly look for reasons as to why he isn't making music like he used too... while ignoring the most basic reasons which makes him human. I personally continue to like what he produces... I thought Musicolgy was good... I loved 3121... Planet Earth has some good moments.... I compare these albums favorably to others in the past like Controvery, ATWIAD, Parade, D&P, Chaos& Disorder and  .... they are better than albums (whch I like but..but not as much as others) TRC , Rave Into The Joy Fantastic and Graffitti Bridge... but not as enjoyable as The Black Album, Lovesexy, 1999 or TGE.
But of course all of that is subjective and strictly my opinion and really has no bearings as to the quality of his music past my own preferences of what I like and don't like. Which is my point.. Either you like the music now or you don't... and just because you don't doesn't mean there is something wrong with him. If more people would just check thier expectations at the door and realize that he simply isn't the young agressive musician of past with something to prove to everyone... and that he is now just making music he wants t make.... maybe... just maybe... you can enjoy the 'Prince' experience which is well into double over time for the amount of time which is left. 30+ yars is a looooong time to be in this business making new music. He's knocking on 50... the ride won't last forever. Jusy be happy that he even makes new music and not rely solely on his past catalogue as other musicians would.[/quote] Big daddy housequake 
I agree with everything u said. Yes indeed. Preach Quake. This needs 2b a sticky | |
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QuakeXLE said: This is a rant... this is strictly a rant... this post will contain language which will be offensive to some readers.
Some of you simple minded people are getting on my nerves. fcukthepolice said: I detest religion with a passion It makes my skin crawl when Prince spews his hatred and dogma.
'when Larry told me 'the truth' everything changed' The truth? prince tries to convince everyone else that his little book is correct; it's disgusting The irony of this statement is that you are doing exactly what you claim he does. This very statement is spewing your hatered and dogma... you're tring to convince every one that what you claim Prince has done is disgusting. Hypocracy at its finest. WTF Camille is not a person. Camille was just a gimmick for when Prince used the spedd up high pitch voice around the Sign O' the times/ Dream Factory era. When people say 'Camille' now... they are refering strictly to the fact that ... the vocals are sped up and high. That is it. To make more out of it than that... is waisting what little brain power you may have. Just like 1+1+1=3 is a thinly veiled attempt at a "good" replacement for Erotic City.
Do you realize how you sound...? You sound like a person who created a diety in your mind named Prince. and when that diety proved to be..just human... you lost what little mind you had! I say for the umpteenth time... the man has been making music for more than 30 years... he has gone thru life changes just as anyone else wuld over the same perod of time. His priorities and views have changed. To think he could maintain the level of passion and creativity he has after he has done... EVERTHING he could have ever dreamed and more.... is INSANE. Prince is only human. Get tht FACT into your heads. And if you don't like the current product at least state so in a constructive manner and cease with the senseless bitching. Well said QuakeXLE Nice to see some sense round here | |
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pennylover said:[quote] DanceWme said: QuakeXLE said: Maybe... just maybe his creative out put is less a reflection of his religous beliefs and more of an reflection of a man who... - has been in the business for 30+ years - has created more music over that span than most artist of this or any generation. - has experimented with more sounds and genres than any other musician could even come remotely close to - has dipped into the cereative well more times, more often and during any 10 year span alone has created more great music than most artist would during an entire career. - has matured and feels diferently about the way he expresses himself now that he's darn near 50 as compared to when he was much younger like most people who 'act there age' would do - has made some of the most remarkable music that he is often unfairly judged against his own creations? - has fans/fam who don't understand that no man remains he same...esp over a 30 year span. - has had and done it all and at his age is more content with his music because he has nothing left to prove. - is just not the same person he was 10,.. 20... or 30 years ago I can't understand why people constantly look for reasons as to why he isn't making music like he used too... while ignoring the most basic reasons which makes him human. I personally continue to like what he produces... I thought Musicolgy was good... I loved 3121... Planet Earth has some good moments.... I compare these albums favorably to others in the past like Controvery, ATWIAD, Parade, D&P, Chaos& Disorder and .... they are better than albums (whch I like but..but not as much as others) TRC , Rave Into The Joy Fantastic and Graffitti Bridge... but not as enjoyable as The Black Album, Lovesexy, 1999 or TGE.
But of course all of that is subjective and strictly my opinion and really has no bearings as to the quality of his music past my own preferences of what I like and don't like. Which is my point.. Either you like the music now or you don't... and just because you don't doesn't mean there is something wrong with him. If more people would just check thier expectations at the door and realize that he simply isn't the young agressive musician of past with something to prove to everyone... and that he is now just making music he wants t make.... maybe... just maybe... you can enjoy the 'Prince' experience which is well into double over time for the amount of time which is left. 30+ yars is a looooong time to be in this business making new music. He's knocking on 50... the ride won't last forever. Jusy be happy that he even makes new music and not rely solely on his past catalogue as other musicians would.[/quote] Big daddy housequake
I agree with everything u said. Yes indeed. Preach Quake. This needs 2b a sticky Brilliantly said! | |
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themusicthatcounts said: QuakeXLE said: This is a rant... this is strictly a rant... this post will contain language which will be offensive to some readers.
Some of you simple minded people are getting on my nerves. Do you realize how you sound...? You sound like a person who created a diety in your mind named Prince. and when that diety proved to be..just human... you lost what little mind you had! I say for the umpteenth time... the man has been making music for more than 30 years... he has gone thru life changes just as anyone else wuld over the same perod of time. His priorities and views have changed. To think he could maintain the level of passion and creativity he has after he has done... EVERTHING he could have ever dreamed and more.... is INSANE. Prince is only human. Get tht FACT into your heads. And if you don't like the current product at least state so in a constructive manner and cease with the senseless bitching. Well said QuakeXLE Nice to see some sense round here Yes, thanks for speaking for (hopefully) the majority of us! | |
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lottielooloo1968 said: he has & will b expected 2 compromise his personality & there4 his art.
however this is the path hes chosen & he wont c it as a sacrifice... i think hes not tameable & will always b a mischief maker. high drama is what he thrives on 
he will alwayz get the biggest buzz outta shocking us lot.... perhaps one day, he might really c the light & break free from the cult! imagine all tht raw energy... 
mayb thts his aim  I'm probably getting off the subject but, I thought this funny. Is he really a mischief maker? | |
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JazzMeUp said: I disagree with most of your comments Riverpoet31.
After seeing him at several aftershows during this Summer, I can say that his music and creativity have not gone away from him at all. If anything, he seemed a lot happier, smiled and laughed a lot. He still has a sharp sense of humour and a lot of wit (The Rules song is an example). And I guarantee that he is still very much of an eccentric. Read back any of the Aftershows threads (especially August 18th) and you will see from all the posts that his resourcefulness is still very alive and kicking. Especially for someone who starts a Main Show at 8.30pm and is still going at 2 in the morning! As for his spiritual life, it is true that he does not seem as unstable or tormented as he used to and I am sorry to hear that as a result you no longer feel entertained by his calmer demeanour. But - even though it is not the case - I would rather his so called “image” suffered than his actual inner self. As for the music, it is down to personal preferences. I personally think the Rainbow Children is by far one of his best albums, and nowadays I listen mainly to his late stuff. I used to listen to his 80’s albums a lot when I was younger and although I still enjoy listening to them every now and then, I feel that my own music taste has followed the same progression as his music. I think some fans are obsessed by the fact that he is following his spiritual path and cannot see pass that. I am sure he still has a lot to offer and if it wasn’t for all the misconceptions and negative observations, he would probably feel more inspired to do so. I like your points! Excellent! | |
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etifaim said: So basically if Prince isn't singing about immoral sexcapades, or isn't gyrating on the stage (apart from him allegedy humping a mic stand
), his music is uninspired and lacks "that spark"?
At this point in his life, I think that Prince loves God more than he loves music. If this is the case, God would be the primary inspiration of what Prince does musically. This was not always the case. If one does not accept this, then I think that their appreciation of Prince's music is naturally going to be affected. I personally think that Prince is highly inspired, I hear it in his music. Since I share his same love of God, I connect with his feelings when I listen to his music, especially the one's that border on the spiritual side. That's just me. If you don't have that type of appreciation for spiritual things, then I agree, it wouldn't sound promising for you. And although I am in the minority when it comes to the fact that the man is half a century as far as age... His values, opinions, and modes of expression (along with his maturity) have changed. Live in the past if you want to, but Prince was never concerned with living in the past. If you don't want to go where he's growing, find your inspiration elsewhere. I think Prince is at a good place in his life right now. Your opinions might also change when you are 50. Life is about growing, and I see Prince doing that. Great post! Thanks! | |
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