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Anyone agrees 'this' doesnt sound promising? Quote from 3121.com:
Stevie Wonder called his friend Prince on2 the stage at Madison Square Garden 4 a stinging version of “Superstition.” At one point there were 3 guitars as well as the Wonderman playing his syncopated hookline. That song rivals “Thank U…” by Sly 4 being the funkiest song ever. Prince is in town visiting the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society World Headquarters in New York. I know its discussed many times before in here, and i agree that people are allowed to follow any type of religion they want. But on the other hand i have a strong feeling that Prince, from the moment he joined the JW movement has been 'holding back himself' on a creative level. Not only is he censoring and/or muting down his lyrics, it also appears he feels reluctant to go "all out" with his music. I miss the sometimes manic energy from his earlier music, the all-over-the place type of creativity, the quirky selrelativating humor. His output since Rave probably is often sounding too serious, to selfcontrolled, to subdued to really create a spark. For example, i consider his namechange and 'slave' remarks in the mid-nineties as eccentricity bordering on the insane, but at least on a musical level he sounded like 'himself': part an eccentric, over the top, mad genious & part a selfrelativating bloke, who could make fun of his own eccentricity. Nowadays i often have the feeling he is just taking himself too serious and tries to hard to make his creative output "fit in" with his religious idea's. To me it gives the feeling that he ignores his real drive to create, his 'muse', and that both the lyrics and music, as well as the image he tries to portray is suffering badly from it. Anyone agrees? | |
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Becoming a JW is one of the worst things that ever happened to his music  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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he has & will b expected 2 compromise his personality & there4 his art.
however this is the path hes chosen & he wont c it as a sacrifice... i think hes not tameable & will always b a mischief maker. high drama is what he thrives on 
he will alwayz get the biggest buzz outta shocking us lot.... perhaps one day, he might really c the light & break free from the cult! imagine all tht raw energy... 
mayb thts his aim  | |
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Since becoming a JW he has made The Rainbow Children and One Nite Alone. I prefer those albums to nearly every thing he did in the 90s, so I'll have to disagree. | |
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vivid said: Since becoming a JW he has made The Rainbow Children and One Nite Alone. I prefer those albums to nearly every thing he did in the 90s, so I'll have to disagree.
He hasn't been consistent this decade. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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His visiting there is pretty much the same as a Catholic visiting the Vatican.
He's a JW. He's been one for years, now. I think folks need to get over it, frankly. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Genesia said: His visiting there is pretty much the same as a Catholic visiting the Vatican.
He's a JW. He's been one for years, now. I think folks need to get over it, frankly. Are people in an uproar?  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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perhaps he was there on business...there is talk of NY watchT HQ selling up tht extremely large piece of land...  | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Quote from 3121.com:
Stevie Wonder called his friend Prince on2 the stage at Madison Square Garden 4 a stinging version of “Superstition.” At one point there were 3 guitars as well as the Wonderman playing his syncopated hookline. That song rivals “Thank U…” by Sly 4 being the funkiest song ever. Prince is in town visiting the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society World Headquarters in New York. I know its discussed many times before in here, and i agree that people are allowed to follow any type of religion they want. But on the other hand i have a strong feeling that Prince, from the moment he joined the JW movement has been 'holding back himself' on a creative level. Not only is he censoring and/or muting down his lyrics, it also appears he feels reluctant to go "all out" with his music. I miss the sometimes manic energy from his earlier music, the all-over-the place type of creativity, the quirky selrelativating humor. His output since Rave probably is often sounding too serious, to selfcontrolled, to subdued to really create a spark. For example, i consider his namechange and 'slave' remarks in the mid-nineties as eccentricity bordering on the insane, but at least on a musical level he sounded like 'himself': part an eccentric, over the top, mad genious & part a selfrelativating bloke, who could make fun of his own eccentricity. Nowadays i often have the feeling he is just taking himself too serious and tries to hard to make his creative output "fit in" with his religious idea's. To me it gives the feeling that he ignores his real drive to create, his 'muse', and that both the lyrics and music, as well as the image he tries to portray is suffering badly from it. Anyone agrees? Following a spiritual path is always promising, regardless of the path, as long it relates 2 a belief in God. Prince has always done so. It is just under (or with) a specific "religion". So what? I don't agree with the name change/"Slave" comment (in bold). The name change was a brilliant way 2 circumvent the contract. "Slave" was relaying his message about major labels. [Edited 11/21/07 12:19pm] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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Giovanni777 said: Riverpoet31 said: Quote from 3121.com:
Stevie Wonder called his friend Prince on2 the stage at Madison Square Garden 4 a stinging version of “Superstition.” At one point there were 3 guitars as well as the Wonderman playing his syncopated hookline. That song rivals “Thank U…” by Sly 4 being the funkiest song ever. Prince is in town visiting the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society World Headquarters in New York. I know its discussed many times before in here, and i agree that people are allowed to follow any type of religion they want. But on the other hand i have a strong feeling that Prince, from the moment he joined the JW movement has been 'holding back himself' on a creative level. Not only is he censoring and/or muting down his lyrics, it also appears he feels reluctant to go "all out" with his music. I miss the sometimes manic energy from his earlier music, the all-over-the place type of creativity, the quirky selrelativating humor. His output since Rave probably is often sounding too serious, to selfcontrolled, to subdued to really create a spark. For example, i consider his namechange and 'slave' remarks in the mid-nineties as eccentricity bordering on the insane, but at least on a musical level he sounded like 'himself': part an eccentric, over the top, mad genious & part a selfrelativating bloke, who could make fun of his own eccentricity. Nowadays i often have the feeling he is just taking himself too serious and tries to hard to make his creative output "fit in" with his religious idea's. To me it gives the feeling that he ignores his real drive to create, his 'muse', and that both the lyrics and music, as well as the image he tries to portray is suffering badly from it. Anyone agrees? Following a spiritual path is always promising, regardless of the path, as long it relates 2 a belief in God. Prince has always done so. It is just under (or with) a specific "religion". So what? I don't agree with the name change/"Slave" comment (in bold). The name change was a brilliant way 2 circumvent the contract. "Slave" was relaying his message about major labels. [Edited 11/21/07 12:19pm] To bad he rejected his own rebellion and is now lying in bed with the same companies he fought so hard to be free from. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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I must say I do miss his old works...but I will still love him all the same. Life Is What You Make It... | |
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Genesia said: His visiting there is pretty much the same as a Catholic visiting the Vatican.
He's a JW. He's been one for years, now. I think folks need to get over it, frankly. Exactly | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Quote from 3121.com:
Stevie Wonder called his friend Prince on2 the stage at Madison Square Garden 4 a stinging version of “Superstition.” At one point there were 3 guitars as well as the Wonderman playing his syncopated hookline. That song rivals “Thank U…” by Sly 4 being the funkiest song ever. Prince is in town visiting the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society World Headquarters in New York. I know its discussed many times before in here, and i agree that people are allowed to follow any type of religion they want. But on the other hand i have a strong feeling that Prince, from the moment he joined the JW movement has been 'holding back himself' on a creative level. Not only is he censoring and/or muting down his lyrics, it also appears he feels reluctant to go "all out" with his music. I miss the sometimes manic energy from his earlier music, the all-over-the place type of creativity, the quirky selrelativating humor. His output since Rave probably is often sounding too serious, to selfcontrolled, to subdued to really create a spark. For example, i consider his namechange and 'slave' remarks in the mid-nineties as eccentricity bordering on the insane, but at least on a musical level he sounded like 'himself': part an eccentric, over the top, mad genious & part a selfrelativating bloke, who could make fun of his own eccentricity. Nowadays i often have the feeling he is just taking himself too serious and tries to hard to make his creative output "fit in" with his religious idea's. To me it gives the feeling that he ignores his real drive to create, his 'muse', and that both the lyrics and music, as well as the image he tries to portray is suffering badly from it. Anyone agrees? Co and sign. Prince can follow whatever faith suits his fancy. But aside from a few blips here and there, since he signed up to join that particular club it just sounds like he's holding himself back. I can handle him not cussing anymore, but the energy and excitement's slipped too. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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though i would love to hear filth like 'come' and 'pussy control' again, i still feel that the energy is still there..maybe the eccentric music is gone, but i love the new sounds, 3121 i thought was a masterpiece of a cd, and planet earth had some stunning moments, with lion of judah rivaling his best work IMHO.
plus the 02 events had all the energy any mortal could withstand. his faith may have toned him down, but his passion and love of music and great sounds hasnt gone. Wouldn't you love to love me? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Becoming a JW is one of the worst things that ever happened to his music
I totally agree with ya.. Starting in that year 1990 when Mayte joined his Clan he was so funky and SO much fun. He was friendly to his fans at shows and accepted their gifts at the concerts.. he acted happy and was doing interviews and talk shows.. The music flowed nicely and Tony Damin and Kirk were great to watch on stage.. But then Larry G. got his claws on Prince... he divorced Mayte and then things began going down hill. he got SOOO preachy and not in a Purple Rain way.. he kinda got like "dark" and made us "regular folks" feel "bad" I wish those days would come back.. and I can't understand all this sueing... Most artist could care less about web sites and fan sites.. they are all busy with their careers and their own lives..  | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: vivid said: Since becoming a JW he has made The Rainbow Children and One Nite Alone. I prefer those albums to nearly every thing he did in the 90s, so I'll have to disagree.
He hasn't been consistent this decade. I'd suggest Prince has been criticised in that way in both the 80s and 90s before. Now, with hindsight, people look back at the 80s material and think "wow, what a consistent collection of work." Then, I'll bet the likes of Around The World In A Day, Lovesexy and Parade (and probably Batman!) would have drawn this criticism as well. So look into the mirror, do u recognise some1? Is it who u always hoped u would become, when u were young? | |
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I disagree with most of your comments Riverpoet31.
After seeing him at several aftershows during this Summer, I can say that his music and creativity have not gone away from him at all. If anything, he seemed a lot happier, smiled and laughed a lot. He still has a sharp sense of humour and a lot of wit (The Rules song is an example). And I guarantee that he is still very much of an eccentric. Read back any of the Aftershows threads (especially August 18th) and you will see from all the posts that his resourcefulness is still very alive and kicking. Especially for someone who starts a Main Show at 8.30pm and is still going at 2 in the morning! As for his spiritual life, it is true that he does not seem as unstable or tormented as he used to and I am sorry to hear that as a result you no longer feel entertained by his calmer demeanour. But - even though it is not the case - I would rather his so called “image” suffered than his actual inner self. As for the music, it is down to personal preferences. I personally think the Rainbow Children is by far one of his best albums, and nowadays I listen mainly to his late stuff. I used to listen to his 80’s albums a lot when I was younger and although I still enjoy listening to them every now and then, I feel that my own music taste has followed the same progression as his music. I think some fans are obsessed by the fact that he is following his spiritual path and cannot see pass that. I am sure he still has a lot to offer and if it wasn’t for all the misconceptions and negative observations, he would probably feel more inspired to do so. | |
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who gives a fuck-its his business | |
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Hit the nail on the head there JazzMeUp, very well said  Wish I was back at the aftershow on Aug 18th, he was on fine form that night and AMAZING. His religion didn't matter at all. People change folks... | |
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jonylawson said: who gives a fuck-its his business
Exactly he doesn't say 'only JWs come to the gigs or buy the cds' does he. | |
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there finally pulling him up for the super-bowl performance. Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
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i think balancing his music with his faith has to be one of the most challenging things around, as long as he isn't repressing anything, that's unhealthy. | |
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I do agree.... I really try not 2 think about it. He'z done good n bad artistically. All I will say iz that I will wait until they put me n the ground 4him 2 get down one more time like he used 2 (80'z  ) Later on ya'll
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Prince, like any other person will decide to review their lives decisions, and react to them. It's growing up, it's sacrifice.. We all go through it.
People weave out the unecessary stimulation, eventually...because it is only by grace that we see, hear, or are able to wear nice clothes. The minute pride consumes one's life...is the time that a series of consequences teach people that we should be thankful for what we have, and what we don't need.. I have learned that, if someone doesn't live up to a decent lifestyle...it is because God hasn't graced them with understanding because they have ignored God. I have known nicer, kinder, atheists, than those that claim to love God. Strange. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Becoming a JW is one of the worst things that ever happened to his music
please.. say this again.. TRC was really the last album i was interested in .. | |
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This thread sparked an interest in me to share the most down 2 earth thing I could think of....
We are all one people, or we are all one nothing....and it may sound contradictory to say with a sincere humility...that we all have our insecurities or our highlight, about our individuality...yet the illusion is.... No nothing is greater than the nothing that I am. No someone is less than the someone I am. "The Lion Sleeps Tonight... | |
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JazzMeUp said: I disagree with most of your comments Riverpoet31.
After seeing him at several aftershows during this Summer, I can say that his music and creativity have not gone away from him at all. If anything, he seemed a lot happier, smiled and laughed a lot. He still has a sharp sense of humour and a lot of wit (The Rules song is an example). And I guarantee that he is still very much of an eccentric. Read back any of the Aftershows threads (especially August 18th) and you will see from all the posts that his resourcefulness is still very alive and kicking. Especially for someone who starts a Main Show at 8.30pm and is still going at 2 in the morning! As for his spiritual life, it is true that he does not seem as unstable or tormented as he used to and I am sorry to hear that as a result you no longer feel entertained by his calmer demeanour. But - even though it is not the case - I would rather his so called “image” suffered than his actual inner self. As for the music, it is down to personal preferences. I personally think the Rainbow Children is by far one of his best albums, and nowadays I listen mainly to his late stuff. I used to listen to his 80’s albums a lot when I was younger and although I still enjoy listening to them every now and then, I feel that my own music taste has followed the same progression as his music. I think some fans are obsessed by the fact that he is following his spiritual path and cannot see pass that. I am sure he still has a lot to offer and if it wasn’t for all the misconceptions and negative observations, he would probably feel more inspired to do so. Totally agree. Great post. "For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all" | |
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silly thread!
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